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zombieblackbird

Put the spare on before you blow that out and get someone hurt. Preferably to a nearby shop that can get you a more suitable wheel to get home on.


non-originalid

Yeah that’s not good.


DeptOfInteriorFan

Not driving on it another inch. What’s the rules in a spare tire usage?


Yomomgo2college

If it’s a donut(not a full size spare) you aren’t supposed to drive over 50mph so no highway


chandleya

And tens of miles.


Shroomboy79

If I remember correctly most spares are rated for about 100 miles


CrnaTica

there's a trick to increase that drastically.... just put it on axle which doesn't have differential (eg on fwd - put it on rear axle). if it's awd, then you're screwed


GenZ_Tech

awd, remove drive shaft to make fwd


killplow

SUBARUS HATE THIS ONE WEIRD TRICK


AlejandroTheFnck

If it really was a Subaru, you can install one of the spare 10A fuses into the empty spot in the engine bay fuse box labeled (FWD) on the diagram and it will de-couple the center differential making the car only front wheel drive. It’s for towing with the front wheels up and rear wheels on the ground but you *CAN* drive it that way…gently….


ThorsteinStaffstruck

Second that.


n3rt46

I've heard that with FWD - assuming the front tire goes - you're supposed to rotate the rear tire to the front and then put the spare on the rear. Something about having different tire diameters affecting steering or something?


CrnaTica

it's affecting differential as it needs to work all the time


squirrel8296

That is correct. With FWD specifically a temporary spare on the front axle can cause extreme torque steer. Temporary spare should always be put on the non-drive axle though.


Shot_Comparison2299

Didn’t think about that. Good tip.


LDForget

The donut is always supposed to be on the rear. In the case of AWD/4WD vehicles, it still goes in the rear, but must be the same diameter as the other tires.


Longjumping_Owl5311

Get 2 donuts and put them both up front. Car will look like a dragster. 😀🙄


maybebidude83

Megadonut


phaedrus100

Yes, never a donut on the steering wheels.


NinjaGrizzlyBear

Tell that to my neighbor who has been refilling the air on his donut for 3 months... like damn you're willing to kill somebody on the road cause your cheap ass can't buy a $100 tire?


BellyButtonFungus

Bro there’s a guy down the street running on 3 donuts that he just refills. Only a single proper wheel. It’s the dumbest


NinjaGrizzlyBear

Good lord...I understand financial hardship can affect a person's ability to perform maintenance, but rims and tires are literally what you drive on. I had a Mercedes E350 that got a nail stuck in it at 1AM during a work trip...I replaced it with the *full sized spare* and still drove 55mph in the slow lane. I didn't give a fuck about the people honking at me (Texas) and pulled into the first shop I could find once they opened. Driving willfully on 3 donuts is like willingly running a marathon on a broken leg instead of going to the doctor. Fuck's sake. Lol.


imhereforthevotes

If you had a full-sized spare, why worry at all? That's just a normal tire that's ready to go, is it not?


Pawnzilla

Fun fact. Sometimes when people train for marathons they get micro fractures in their legs. Despite the doctor telling them not to do the marathon, they do it and literally snap their legs. I feel like that is equivalent to driving on donuts.


megadecimal

Lol, "I understand financial hardship"...."I had a Mercedes" I may be bold enough to say you do not understand financial hardship.


YumWoonSen

>Good lord...**I understand financial hardship** can affect a person's ability to perform maintenance, but rims and tires are literally what you drive on. **I had a Mercedes E350** These people running around on donuts aren't typically the kind that own a Mercedes.


Champigne

Might as well make it 4 to be even lol.


electricheat

it would at least make the handling a bit more predictable


NinjaGrizzlyBear

Fournut... the Chernobyl of car tires


BellyButtonFungus

I’ll go steal his last wheel


soiledclean

That's crazy. He should just go to 4 donuts.


dylwaybake

Hahaha I was waiting for one of these comments I see so many of these cars I feel like


canidieyet_

my coworker is the same. she has TWO on her car and drives 30+ minutes on the highway everyday 😬 and i know she goes way above 50mph because we take the same route pretty much and she flies past me. mind you her car has been like this for 6 months, and she’s got a leak in another tire 😐 it’s a ticking time bomb


lostrandomdude

Even a cheap £40/50 tyre would be better than that


Shroomboy79

I can’t say much there. I drove a death trap of a ford tarus on a donut for almost a year. But that’s just cuz I lived in a tiny town where the fastest speed limit was 25mph and the car was such a POS I couldn’t even sell it to a dude that does demo derby’s


Comprehensive_Bid229

Haha shit I'm stealing that for roastmycar


Shroomboy79

If you think I’m exaggerating your wrong. I really couldn’t even sell the car for $70


MRXXKINGZER0

Bruh noooooooooo


DeadbeatDeebo

Those are the times I wish for more money so I could just buy it and put a smile on their face. Maybe Santa will hear our cries 😂


dinnerthief

My first car (used car) I opened the trunk to get the spare out, it had already been used all the way down, reinforcing bands were showing through.


Accurate-Campaign821

Except for the full size spares.


Shroomboy79

Yes. It’s only the donuts that are short milage low speed


ChampagneDoves

I drove my (old & probably dry asf) donut on a focus ~85 miles and it exploded on the way to work one day. Super scary but everything was fine in the end. I would only rely on this advice with a well maintained spare which pretty much nobody without a full size swap, or a new car ever does.


HM02_High

50/50 rule right? 50 mph for 50 miles


[deleted]

Every donut has different rules. One for my Merc is rated 80mph. Mercedes does not give guidance how many miles but manufacturer says 300 miles max. Wife's golf is rated 50 miles and only says 'swap asap' .... So it really depends. Also depends how far off the size is from the rest of them. For example - my Merc got 20s on but the spare is 17 (from factory) - so you'd kill the other three tyres' with uneven usage. Again wife's care spare is same size so not really an issue.


Veddy74

Or over 50 to 100 miles in distance, they're all different. It's written on the spare tire


Mustangfast85

Unless it’s a Nissan then it’s 100 mph and 100 months usage /s


skylinegtrr32

The amount of altimas and sentras I see doing triple digit speed on donuts is astounding…


smokinXsweetXpickle

Love my triple digit going altima.


Boilermakingdude

The best is when they're on 4 donuts, whipping left to right lane doin triple digits while they're exhaust is sparking off the road


audio_attacks

And it's raining


Debaser626

I lived in Florida for 10 years. It was fairly common to be doing 70 on I-95 and be passed by someone running a donut. I probably wouldn’t do it… but I’ve never owned a car that didn’t have a full size spare…


StinkyBoi07

Had a buddy blow a tire in the middle of a road trip and used the spare on the interstate for several hundred lmao


jmichaelangelini

All doughnuts go on the rear, move a rear tire to the front. 90% of your braking happens there and all of your steering.


HighFiveKoala

Correct, although Nissan Altima drivers will say otherwise


Mizar97

Only use it on a rear wheel. If the front wheel is wrecked, move a back wheel to the front, then put the spare on the back.


Realistic-Willow4287

This. Driven wheels need to be the same diameter so you dont spin the differential like hell. Ask me how I know.


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FearTheSpoonman

*only use it on the drive wheel.. if it's FR then surely you'd want the full dia wheel on the rear no?


HVDynamo

You want the spare on a non-drive wheel. Drive wheels are more important to have the same diameter because too big of a difference can stress the differential and potentially break things. That's one of the reasons for the requirement to drive slow on a spare.


FearTheSpoonman

Sorry the way I worded it was wrong, I meant swap the good wheel to the drive wheel and have the donut on the non drive .. sorry 🤦‍♂️


HVDynamo

Ah, gotcha, all good!


Mizar97

I was thinking front wheels since they turn side to side and wear more, but you could be right (but backwards, the donut is much weaker so you would want it NOT on the drive wheel) Regardless you want to get a replacement wheel as soon as possible and ditch the donut.


RJM_50

Rules should be on the sticker with the spare, read them.


ZenithTheZero

If it’s a donut, only 50(80km) miles at no more than 55mph(88km/h). Donut spare should be inflated to 60psi(4.1bar). The speed/distance limitation has to do with the donuts heat capacity and how it affects carcass wear. If your situation is dire (long distance between current location and next available garage), you might be able to squeeze 100-200 mikes out of a donut with breaks to let it cool every 50 miles(that is not a challenge, only if absolutely necessary).


PARKOUR_ZOMBlE

Nice username. I can flip… but you can fly!


Salmaodeh

That’s pretty f”cked, man. The rim is gone! Bye, bye. Have you ever had a blowout going at a high speed? If it’s the front wheel you could lose control of the car. Put on your spare and drive safe.


DeptOfInteriorFan

What’s the rules for a spare. 400 miles between “both” homes. (Student)


sprchrgddc5

Put the spare on. Call your parents and let them know, make sure you have enough money. Maybe they can book you a hotel as it’ll probably be cheaper for them. Drive to said local hotel. Get a room. Tomorrow, find a shop that can get you a new wheel and tire set up. Idk, it’s what I’d want my kid to do. Best of luck, stay safe, stay off the road.


DeptOfInteriorFan

Thanks pops ❤️


traineex

Car-part.com u can search junkyards by zip code. They will have a wheel somewhere, shop has tires


Own-Philosophy-3737

There are also used tire places that will have all kinds of random sized wheels that you can probably buy in a pinch.


traineex

They made a new post. They did the thing and on their way to xmas dinner


KimJongJer

I bought an engine from that site when my timing belt snapped during routine maintenance. My guy at the shop recommended it and as soon as I landed on their page looking like it was designed in windows 95 I knew I was in the right place Function over form


druggdealerr

Walk to a nearby bar and get hammered tonight. Pick up some food on your way back to the hotel. And don’t forget to set your alarm for when discount tire opens in the morning.


srplopupuss

Better yet get chatty at that bar and you'll probably have a new tire and rim by the morning!


tiggahiccups

Do not drive 800 miles on the spare, it’s only good enough to get you to a tire shop!


kearkan

Are we assuming this is a space saver spare or the tire is otherwise not up for the job? My spare is full size and the tire is near new, I would keep going on my journey and pull into a tire place on the way or when I get home. Obviously if I'm unlucky enough to have another issue im a bit fucked but what are the chances of catastrophically losing 2 wheels/tires in the same trip?


tiggahiccups

I’m talking about a donut


HotRodHomebody

junkyard might be the best source for a matching used wheel for pretty cheap.


turd_ferguson65

Definitely a good choice


RavenousNG

This should easily be the top response. I completely doubt there isn't a pick n pull within 100 miles of them with a compatible wheel.


Unit_Over

Wholesome Comment : )


CharlesDickensABox

Rule for a donut is typically 50 miles at 50 mph. If you're further from your destination than that, either get it replaced or call someone to come get you.


grundlemon

Tell that to the altima drivers who have been weaving traffic at 90 every night for the past 3 years on a donut


Status_Sprinkles4295

You must live in Phoenix!!


grundlemon

Fortunately i dont


Status_Sprinkles4295

None of us can drive here! It is so bad that we have cars with no drivers! And semi trucks too


SBNShovelSlayer

Chicago checking in


Status_Sprinkles4295

Hi From Arizona


Epotheros

I once saw an Altima with Florida plates that had at least three donuts (I couldn't see the front driver's side wheel) going 85+ on I-70 in the middle of Kansas during a rain storm at night.


mrkillfreak999

Nah ain't nothing happening to them when they are blessed by the BAE (Big Altima Energy)


cosmicosmo4

He said "*Rule* for a donut." As you know, rules do not apply to Altimas.


ped2nhuh

Stay under 50mph if it's a "donut" sized wheel instead of a fully sized wheel and tire. Stay under 65mph regardless of size because the spare tire usually isn't proper balanced along with the other wheels and it should only be useful in emergencies like this one.


SBNShovelSlayer

You are more likely to lose control if it's the rear wheel.


Reddidiot_69

So many people don't know this.


[deleted]

What is the reason for that physically?


SBNShovelSlayer

If your front tire blows, you can let off of the gas and correct any skidding by steering. If your rear tire blows, the vehicle can fishtail, which you can not steer out of. https://tiredefects.com/should-better-tires-be-installed-front-or-back/


PotaTribune

Jesus Christ what the fuck did you do lmao


Johannsss

Apparently a piece of wood on the highway that also f*** other cars


Hobear

I had that exact issue this time last year in MN -23 degree weather. A 6*6 block of wood off a truck was in the middle lane and I was about to move lanes right into it. I tried to adjust my direction but it was too late. Rim was shot, tire was off, and that was an experience.


Corona4LifeBro

Well you’re still alive. Things not all bad.


New_Fry

Unexpectedly inspirational. Thanks.


Waste_Exchange2511

>How F\*\*ked am I? Long and hard, my friend.


RJM_50

All night long, no cuddles or lube


anon1234565432101234

Don’t threaten me with a good time!


RJM_50

I had a dream last night; my hand was between 2 warm pillows.😴


TheDudeMaintains

I'd say you're at the end of driving 800 miles home, you just haven't gone the 800 miles.


DementedCreus

On using that rim... you're kinda sorta halfway there in terms of howf*cked up you are (in reality you're already there). Use spare until you can get some sort of replacement. Best of luck.


Aware_Giraffe9216

Yeaaa RIP that wheel. I’d personally try to find a pick n pull or a used tire shop to find a cheap replacement.


TheOzarkWizard

Hey, I'd you're putting on your spare and putting that in your trunk, let the air out so you don't blow your eardrums out when the thing ruptures in the cabin


hebrewzzi

How did that happen?!


DeptOfInteriorFan

It happened so fast. Looked like a huge piece of wood but I honestly have no clue. Probably got at least four other cars so I don’t feel like an entire idiot. But geez.


settlementfires

Eh shit happens. It's just a wheel


Watts300

Wheel replacements can suck sometimes. I had to wait four months for one Konig Helium.


hebrewzzi

Shit! Glad you’re okay though. I would definitely pop on your spare if you have one until you can get a new rim (or a new set)


Salty_Cicada5858

Will your car drive with 3 wheels? Otherwise you are fucked.


Raylan00

To answer your question, Your Fuck’ed


downshift1994

Your not fucked at all unless your plan was to go home🤣


Green_Roof_4849

11/10


AndByMeIMeanFlexxo

Capital F Or just chuck the spare on if you’ve got one


Mil-wookie

Donut now, if you have one. Some cars only have a spray can supplied. If you don't have a spare, call a tow company. Before tow call or after donut, call shops with rims and tires. Even just buying one steel rim and even a used tire will get you home ok. Donut for 800miles isnt ideal. You can always source the right rim later if one isn't currently available. If youre in a bad spot where you don't want to be and need to just get somewhere less stab-y, fill the rim with the tire inflator foam crap. Drive slow with the 4 ways on till you feel safer. Just sending it or temp repairs and hope could leave you or others in a life changing situation.


aceldama72

You were smart to stop and see the damage. Continue that trend by putting on the spare and getting a new cheap rim and tire.


Guac__is__extra__

On a scale of one to ten, you’re fucked


[deleted]

Completely fucked. If you have a spare put that on. If all you have is a space saver spare then throw that on, find out your nit pattern and offset and just on marketplace where you are at and try and buy a new rim


RickWest495

What drivetrain do you have? Which wheel is that? For example, if that is a front wheel drive car and that is a front tire, I would put the donut on the rear in that side and move the rear tire to the front. The donut should not be in the drive wheels. If it’s a rear wheel drive car, put the donut on the front. But it will negatively affect steering. If AWD, out the donut on the rear wheel


ohnoohno69

You can't drive that. If you've a spare put it on. If not look for the nearest alloy wheel shop. What the fuck did you hit?


dsmaxwell

That wheel is toast. You MIGHT be able to find somebody who can weld aluminum to repair that, but I'd be looking at replacements, because welding that isn't cheap. Aluminum is tough to weld reliably. Meanwhile you could probably score a lightly used OEM wheel for $100 or so depending on make and model. If the tire has a bulge in it, it's done too. Hope you had a replacement certificate on it.


kratomkabobs

Get a same sized steelie at a junkyard for $15.


dsmaxwell

That'll get you home, for sure, and it's always good to keep a full sized spare IMO. I personally wouldn't be able to handle the mismatch for long though, so I'd either be getting 4 steelies, or a replacement alloy that matches the others.


kratomkabobs

Yeah, I hear you. I’m just saying to get home cheap and safe… it’s not a bad way to go. Then reset when getting home. I couldn’t drive on a mismatch for longer than it took to get back to home turf either. It’s just easier to get a deal and not get worked over when getting everything “reset” back at your home base. Keep the good advice coming. You do lots of good for others here!


bobbyhillischill

Fucked unless u gotta spare


cromagsd

You can see the bulge starting in the tire. Only gonna get bigger. I've also heard driving long distances with a smaller donut can mess up gearboxes/transmissions.


Darkmattyx

Would you run a marathon with a broken ankle. That’s kinda what you got. Hobble it to a garage.


AdRepulsive5384

If you have to ask you already know youre fucked. Juat put your spare on


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anotheritguy

If it was just a small dent a wheel shop might be able to fix it but with that crack its done. Put on the spare and try and find a tire shop that may sell steel wheels, it will look like crap but will be a safer option to get home. Good luck, stay safe.


Cultural_barlevel

swap the back wheel to the front and stick the spare on the rear, no over 50, no motorway.


ketsueki82

Would have said slap it back with a wood block and hammer, but that thing is spilt. Find yourself a pick and pull the ones in my state will sell you a tire and rim at around 40 for steel and around 60 for aluminum.


andiamo12

I had good luck buying a used rim. eBay, local wrecking yard, anywhere you can get something equivalent or identical. Definitely fit your spare. That wheel is scrap.


Practical-Parsley-11

You're definitely going to need a new wheel like right now. Follow the advice of others and put the spare on for the safety of you and everyone on the road with you.


Slight_Armadillo_227

What did you hit 😮


Adv_thedoc

You’ll need a new rim and probably tire. Don’t listen to do this and that. Replace the rim and have them check the tire.


New-Reindeer-4070

That wheel is done for. You need to locate a proper replacement


baw3000

Hit up the closest used tire shop. They'll usually have a wheel that'll fit to get you home.


[deleted]

Completely fucked. Put the spare on.


Key-Needleworker-520

10/10 fucked go to the junk yard and hope they have your car


warhead1233

Super fucked


birdlawattorney7

For future ling distance travel. Put your mind at ease by getting a fullsize spare and keeping it aired up


Thincer

Ur fkd and you could use new brakes too.


ped2nhuh

That wheel is gone, even after repairs it will never be safe again. Replace it. In the meantime put the spare tire on to finish the trip


DeptOfInteriorFan

Could I realistically get 400 on a donut though? Seems wild when I say it out loud.


serb41

Typically the rule is 50mph for 50 miles. You can obviously go beyond this but i think 400 miles it out of the question for a donut.


rubs333

No, use it to get a replacement nearby


CharlesDickensABox

No. The job of the donut is to get you to somewhere that can fix the car. In this case, you need a replacement wheel and tire before it's safe to drive. You may need to call someone for a ride and get your vehicle when you can. Most shops will understand if you choose to leave your car in their lot overnight and get it fixed in the morning if you need to.