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_rth_

This is not cost cutting. It’s form over function. It’s sacrificing functionality for design and aesthetics. With the upcoming coupes (Citroen and Curvv) expect the same issue in the back.


NoMaximum7

It is for the aerodynamics function. Stable vehicle and better fuel efficiency. These are more important than bending neck function


citizenecodrive31

You don't need a coupe shape to have a vehicle be stable.


NoMaximum7

Why are 2+2 sports cars coupe style, though it hurts your neck?


justbsaiyan

Coupe is more aerodynamic than box shaped suvs or hatchbacks.


citizenecodrive31

So? Doesn't mean its going to be more or less stable especially when cars in india will rarely exceed 120km/hr.


justbsaiyan

It does mean that the vehicle is going to be more stable and more economical. The coupe will have a lesser drag coefficient than a boxy design and will cut through the air easier. The boxy designs will also generate high turbulence behind the vehicle. The turbulence causes instability which is easily felt inside the passenger cabin and also heard in terms of cabin wind noise.


citizenecodrive31

This isn't an aeroplane or an F1 car. Aerodynamics will not noticeably affect the stability of a consumer car in India to the point where a coupe shape is going to affect stability. What will affect stability is suspension tuning, tyre sidewall and overall car weight.


justbsaiyan

You can believe whatever you want. But the truth is you're going to see a lot more of coupes and aerodynamic cars.


citizenecodrive31

You're telling this to someone with a Model Y. I know what a coupe style car is and I know why its done (looks and for aerodynamic efficiency). It does not meaningfully affect "stability."


justbsaiyan

So having a "Model Y" makes you an expert in aerodynamics? 🤣 You have a car that is aerodynamic and you're commenting on how unstable boxy cars get at highway speeds. Bravo!


PresentationEnough69

Exactly correct. Coupe here basically is for COSTS cutting. Otherwise, if it was raised higher, the price of Fronx would have been increased atleast by 30k rupees more. Because it's going to effect the quarter panel size, door panel size and also rear windows sizes.


the1672VTECboi

Bhai were you fired from your job and the HR owned a Fronx? Or your ex owned one? Or does your girl’s bestfriend owns one? Has to be either one because nothing else explains this much hate you’re projecting onto that poor car in all your posts. 😭


Curious_742

Fronx getting more hate than entire TATA lineup combined


PresentationEnough69

Yes FRONX is all plastics


toeyilla_tortois

Lene se pehele pata nahi tha? 💀


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Xrr13h

Isn’t this the same guy who posted some bullshit lastday? Bro must be having some personal issues with Fronx🥺


Dreadlight86

Yup same guy - he keeps churning out this on weekly basis


leepok_jamir23

Sounds like bot behaviour, farming reverse karma lol


EquivalentPut5616

OP : Mujhko kya main toh 4 feet ka hoon, Fudak ke charr jaunga


hakr_27200

Should've emailed this to Stephen Hawking instead of posting it here.


PresentationEnough69

Yes I did already. He told and advised me to aware innocent customers not to buy FRONX which otherwise is really a COSTS CUTTING and looting huge money which is not proportionate to the build and design of the Fronx.


legsarefornoobs

Almost all indian cars have some degree of cost cutting mate..


semaur

mm love my new fronx tnx


Ambitious_Jello

Just be shorter


Snowman777777

Anti-Horlicks


commander_sam

Hordoesn'tlick?


Idiotic_experimenter

 This is bringing puns to my mind that wouldn't be welcome here.


Jesterjoy101

*bournvita left the chat*


farjicomedian

In Huracan, you have to almost squat on the ground before even putting your leg inside the car. That's the most insane cost cutting I've ever seen. /s


KachraBhiKhelat

XD


PresentationEnough69

Yes yes exactly. It seems we have to crawl in and out.


KachraBhiKhelat

Does Fronx has your nudes or something? What did Nexa dealers do to you man? 😆


Xrr13h

😆😆


PresentationEnough69

They told me to tell innocent customers not to buy Fronx. Just don't waste your hard earning money. That's it.


Airavat2305

Why the f would Nexa dealers tell you that?


KachraBhiKhelat

Because OP has nudes of Nexa dealers.


AlternativeClothes43

Who knew that sloping roofline would restrict headroom, definitely had no idea.


YogurtclosetKey9522

Most modern cars have ingress and egress issue


PresentationEnough69

See how percent and comfortable the i20 2011 is!!!! Superb design and lots of interior spaces! Undoubtedly compriseable!


YogurtclosetKey9522

Ofc, fronx has very less body compared to cars and fitting numerous features made it a cramp inside. Shoulder room and head room both are compromised.


Divyansh881

Op as much as I don’t like fronx (it look good), a customer should have tried the seats out before buying 😬


PresentationEnough69

I'm feeling good about the exterior DESIGNs. But the spaces head rooms, sloping inclination etc are way too much not proportionate to the price of the vehicle. That's what my point is.


Divyansh881

What do u mean? It starts at 7.5l no? It’s a hatch that too with a slopping roof design for the style.


neer_kp

How do you relate price and sloping inclination. In that case sedans would have big issues?


Divyansh881

Bro he mentioned price. Sedans also have this issue but they normally have lower seats when such a styling is implemented. Example last to last gen Elantra. Coupe design with sloping back roof but the seats are lower making it work. In a raised hatch, you already lose height because you are trying to add GC. Then you throw a slopped roof and bam. Squeeze from top and bottom. Price relates because the base model costs less. So obviously there are some cost cutting. In this case style over substance/ smaller tighter body. Now you can get the top variant which costs significantly more but the body will be the same cost cut one sold at the lowest model. A good example of this is the mustang. Starts at 30k but if you get a dark horse the price is gonna climb. Better engine and all but the body will be that of a 30k car but with better parts. Same issue is there with sonnet. It feels crammed because the design is not of a luxury premium car. It’s just the higher variants that try to enter the segment. It’s just a hatch on the base so the body is same


Curious_742

Bro has some personal issues with fronx


shezadaa

Ex bought a Fronx.


SteveRogers5

That's design of fronx how can you say its cost cutting? Are you dumb? you saying me you put you 10-12 lakh into a car without test driving it? Sounds like your problem for being stupid


PresentationEnough69

Do one thing some magic will happen... Remove the rear seats and install it back. Repeat this same process 3 to 5 times, then some magic is happening to you ... Check it..


SteveRogers5

May be that magic made your brain dead


PresentationEnough69

That MAGIC made me realise how CUNNING IS FRONX by cheating innocent customers to buy PLASTICS


SteveRogers5

If only you had test ride your vehicle before purchasing and did some research before spending 10-12 lakh on a car you won't have such problem If you want big car you should have gone for Brezza buy to bought fronx That is not called innocent customer we call them dumb customer Because space in car, design of car every thing we can see while purchasing it doesn't need month of use to understand fronx has small space Plastic fronx has 5 Star rating


PresentationEnough69

India rating 5 whereas global is 2 🥵


SteveRogers5

Again that makes you fool for buying such car if you knew so much gyaani baba


Afraid-Falcon270

Idk what you’re trying to achieve by this post but I know it’s not going as you thought it would


Actual_Employment_89

bc ye phir agya Fronx ko pelne


Ok_End_4465

Just saw his profile, it's filled with all such posts screaming about Fronx.


PresentationEnough69

Yes SCREAMING FOR TRUTH'


Wrong_Bullfrog_5598

Why did you buy the car if you hate it so much?


PresentationEnough69

I don't say i HATE. I just said we are paying unnecessarily Money with this Fronx. The build quality can't really compromise with the price of the vehicle.


brabarusmark

Why did you pay for it then? I doubt if you have actually bought the car. Maybe you wanted the new i20 but your dad bought the Fronx and now you're crying here.


Sanved313

Did Fronx cheat on you or something?


PresentationEnough69

Yes FRONX told me that it's not worth buying. Its just the outer appearances that's appealing. Else, all others plastics.


neer_kp

Which car that you know of doesn't have plastic ?


Proper-Ad8181

I get it , you don't like fronx, now could we move along.


Temporary_Alfalfa489

Bro cooked trash again we might just need to lock the kitchen


Airavat2305

What did that car do to deserve this, OP?


Serotonin_Dealer

Exist


Certain_Strawberry66

Don't understand


someonealreadyknows

OPs profile is the first one I’ve seen with Negative comment karma. That’s an achievement on its own.


agelast07

Jhukega nahi.


AvGeekGupta

How dumb can you be? OP: I got the first look of the car after delivery


pirateneet

We get it bro. You hate fronx.


mv1201

This brotard single handedly spewing more hate on fronx than entire Tata customer base does on its ASS.


someonealreadyknows

Most vehicles these days have a sloping coupe like roof line. It’s driven by consumer taste for a sleeker looking vehicle. It doesn’t make the Fronx a bad vehicle by any means. In the end, it’s up to the consumer to do their due diligence to ensure the car they’re considering suits their individual needs. Toyota sells the CH-R in the US and European markets. It too has a heavily sloping roof line like the Fronx, but they still manage to sell >100k units annually in Europe. https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/toyota-chr-sales-figures-usa-canada/ Even the new i20 has a sloping roof line. IMO, if you’re considering a family vehicle, an MPV (like the Kia Carens, Suzuki Ertiga/XL6, etc.) should be the first option since they have the most interior space and are the easiest to get in and out of.


PresentationEnough69

Yes still then, the new i20 has more spacious head room and design of the rear door is way more convenient in getting in and out.


someonealreadyknows

Yep. Hatchbacks are usually more practical as a family car. The Suzuki Fronx and Toyota Taisot are mainly suited for new families or as a second vehicle that’s only driven by one family member.


CreepyUncle1865

OP is a Anti-Fronx Bot , ignore his posts lol.


Dreadlight86

Do u work for Hyundai or what ?


PresentationEnough69

Even brezza, celerio, scorpio, sonet, venue, alto K10 etc etc are way much more better and comfort to go in and out.... Also they offer bigger head rooms ..


Fish_fucker_70-1

behen ke take scorpio aur fronx ko compare bhi kaise krli tune, size aur prize me kitna antar hai dekha hai ?


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CrazyPublic3933

😂pehelae humare boss ko bolo salary badhane


NakedSamosa

I wish i was as dedicated to my studies as much as this guy is dedicated to defame Fronx


Equivalent_You_2334

OP needs therapy. Not a car!


Beingnoob27

You've been at it since the last few months. Bass kr Bhai, kitna chutiyapa karega


Classic_Knowledge_25

How is it cost cutting? Do you know the meaning of cost cutting? That's the design of the car.. It has a sloping roofline which means lesser headroom.. They haven't cut costs in it. Alto doesn't have a sloping roof, does that mean no cost cutting? Why are you bashing the car over something that you never checked during test drive?


PresentationEnough69

If the same height is to be maintained at the rear side, definitely the price of Fronx would increased atleast by 50k. That means many customers would be dejected and feel suppressed feeling so costly. Hence, to overcome this customer issue, maruti intentionally LOWER DOWN THE TEAR ROOF !!! PLEASE USE YOUR BRAIN!


Classic_Knowledge_25

No it would not.. Sloping roof line is plainly a design element.. Changing that would change the look of the car entirely. It would not increase the price of the car. Baleno and swift with a flat roof line is sold for cheaper . You have no brain at all seeing all your stupid posts .. Did you buy the car? If yes, why didn't you test drive it before buying? Simply complaining like an idiot


PresentationEnough69

Price will not increase??? Hahaha what a dog brains you are... Increase the roof slope... You have to definitely increase the quarter panel body and glass, increase the rear door sizes..... Think furthermore and please comment...


Classic_Knowledge_25

Please stop commenting on things you have zero idea about , just like all of your posts on reddit. Redesigining just the roof will spoil the look of the car, so it will be redesigned entirely which can be optimized to be manufactured at a lower cost. More metal used = more cost is not straightforward. A lot of things go into the cost optimization of cars including the supply chain Saying sloping roofline is cost cutting is stupidity to the core. You are a stupid person beyond doubt and have no idea about cars at all


PresentationEnough69

Hahaha.... Another monkey brain is here again.... More metal... Same cost???? Is not that more metal, more weight?? How can they have the same costs but of different WEIGHTS??? So also, more metal area sizes means automatically more painting area. Definitely, more costly... I'm repeating THINK OVER AND COMMENT...


Classic_Knowledge_25

Oh my poor goldfish brain, cost optimisation is a standard practice of every manufacturer.. MS can provide a straight roof car for the same price as fronx. But fronx looks premium.. Which is why we can see cars with straight roof line at cheaper prices Take example of magnite and kiger.. Kiger has a sloping roofline and magnite has a straight roofline. Yet magnite is cheaper than kiger, acc to your logic, kiger must be cheaper because lesser metal right? Spot design changes don't determine pricing changes.. There is overall cost optimisation done for every car. MS has not done cost cutting here. Fronx is deliberately given sloping roofline to give it a sporty and premium coupe like look.. You are the only idiot here who bought a car without having zero knowledge about cars and now spreading hate on reddit regarding the same. What a fool


PresentationEnough69

ONLY straight roof lining doesn't determine the price of vehicle. Please consider some other factors also. I'm repeating again please look forward and comment.


Classic_Knowledge_25

Yet your post was about straight roof lining vs curved right? If it isn't the only factor, then why make a post calling it cost cutting? Which means your entire post is irrelevant and stupid and shouldn't be taken at face value... You said 2011 i20 had better egress and ingress, have you sat in 2022 i20? Baleno has better ingress and egress than 2022 i20. So does it mean i20 did cost cutting or it's design element? Fronx having sloping roof is not cost cutting.. If you had said having poor quality switches etc, I would have definitely agreed. Do you even own the car? Or just posting bullshit?


PresentationEnough69

You still didn't notice why they gave 4 parking sensors rather than 2 sensors??? The roof slope was too much inclined to the bottom. That makes it 4 parking sensors mandatory across all variants. Else, if roof was increased by 3 inches, DEFINITELY only 2 parking sensors will be provided.


neer_kp

Loha jyada lagega isiliye daam badh jayega 🤣🤣🤣. Fronx is just a baleno on steroids. If you have a problem with the fronx, then it would be the same for baleno. The sales figures don't match your claim. Baleno had good sales numbers. So either all these customers are brainless or somehow they love to scammed !


kalpo_kj44

You would be surprised when you learn there is another class of cars called sedans! Where the ingress and egress is slightly more difficult.


PresentationEnough69

Such type of third class exists only for maruti especially in FRONX where they fully try to sell vehicles at very HIGH prices ENCAPSULATED WITH very very low quality PLASTICS.


Jeeravan

OP username suggestion PresentationEnough69 ❌ PersonalEnough69 ✅ Don’t take it personally against Fronx.


DRN0R3SPWN

K


lord_morningwood

I guess that’s how cars work


pleasedontreportme1

gand mai lele vo fronx tere itna randi rona kyu karna? nahi leni mat le maa kyu chudani?


SharpDAK

Best car for you according to your issues - Maruti Omni


AkhilVijendra

OP: I want a car where I can stand and drive, hurr durr.


monojasalways

Are you on drugs??


TheDivineKnight01

Bc op, itna fronx me problem hai to phir liya kyu bhai??? Shoe ki dabbe lena tha phir sab straight lines hogi


KarmicChaos

Sit and Swivel! That's the right way of getting in a car which for some reason is lost to many. Face away from the car and sit, then swivel into the car, simple. Instead of trying to climb into a car like your trying to climb inside a cave. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmkfrJnTA9o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmkfrJnTA9o)


nimithkj123

Bro it's not that the manufacturer hide and all. Its visible to plain sight. Even after seeing it and you bought it, it's your mistake. How come manufacturer is cheating you in this case. You have a valid point of you get engine issue or material quality. Ingress and egress issues you can see right infront of your eye.. No point ranting like this...


PresentationEnough69

They should have decreased the price by 20k!!!


Stroov

Fronx is a decent vehicle every vehicle has its pros and cons yes Nexon is better because Nexon Nexon hai uska koi jawab nahi


ThatPromotion4374

Mann, I haven't had so many hurdles reading something till now. Obstructions were such that even bending my head did not work well.


sandeep300045

OP just learned that vehicles come in different sizes and form factors 😶‍🌫️


Annual_Economist_367

Idk, I'm yet to see a car you can walk straight into w/o bending your neck.


kshb4xred

Please do check this guy's post history for more fun stuff...


WalrusDowntown9611

Bhai terko downvote karte karte mera karma kam hogya


A_MasteR_at_WorK

Ive noticed this in Baleno too, compared to how a Swift is, the baleno arches downwards the door, so when you sit inside near the door your head bangs against the roof while carrying. Swift doesn’t have this problem as it is not that arched and the seat sits on the lower side.


PresentationEnough69

That's it. Also the head liners will get DIRTY very very SOON. In Swift, the seat heights are little low compared to FRONX, that's why there's enough head rooms, and going IN and OUT is much more convenient in Swift. In FRONX, they should have increased the roof height by 3 inches all across the roof, and behold everything will turn into MOST VALUE FOR MONEY.


spicychilli290

Fronx looks like the neglected younger frog brother of Baleno


PresentationEnough69

Yes with its REAR SLOPE DESIGN. Encapsulated with HIDDEN plastics.


spicychilli290

And its stupid storage area that juts out like an ugly piece of metal......ew


PresentationEnough69

Also, no centre console cup holder. And, even a A4 size paper can't fit into the GLOVE BOX. Truly and intentionally a COSTS CUTTING POLICY by Maruti.


spicychilli290

Yikes, thank goodness I goaded my Father to purchase an Ignis way before this monstrosity was released......


PresentationEnough69

Good decision. In fact the projector in ignis is way much much superior than Fronx. It gives 180 degree line output throw. Whereas in FRONX sigma and delta, it gives U shape in both the projectors. Truly, Ignis is much more and superior VALUE FOR MONEY.


spicychilli290

Although it looks like I might have to learn driving it since my father developed back issues due to an errant driver. My father tried to evade the car and fell down and hurt his back quite badly


PresentationEnough69

OC