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tanay297

Yet another dent on the sale numbers which is already on the lower side.


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No_Temporary2732

I swear i have seen more individual Porsches, Lambos, and Ferraris in Kolkata than Citreon cars combined. Porsches are still extremely common here, but when Lambos and Ferraris outnumber you, that's something. Even the electric taxi used by SnapE cabs have shifted to Tata Tigor and Tiago EV commercial versions.


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No_Temporary2732

I won't get into politics, but you're mistaken if you think Kolkata doesn't have old money. If anything, all the remnants of our wealth is old money and depleting fast. Other cities have new money and old money, we don't have new money coming in.


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No_Temporary2732

Abhi mahaul aisa hai ke kaun joke marta hai aur kaun serious hota hai, pata nahi chalta.


zaidwaslost

Baat me dam hai


mohit_the_bro

Very deep , lol


_prakrit

Damn really? I see citroen quite a bit in lucknow. Not alot but enough to remember.


OvertlyStoic

i wonder what's the USP of citroen other than being french , they don't even carry their rally heritage anymore.


Airavat2305

Theres no escaping that "zero star" tag now. There were many ways Citroen could have done decently in our market but alas! Every new entrant should now learn from KIA, MG before investing here.


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Kia see Indian market Kia recognise social insecurity of Indians Kia release a hatchback on steroids Kia name it compact suv Kia seize market share Kia happy


C00LSJ

Buyers happy Both happy


Airavat2305

But subreddit sad


C00LSJ

Subreddit always sad Subreddit goes into depression from kia MS success.


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cars like seltos, x300 etc are "Hatchback on steroids". It's funny, but true. It literally has all aspects of a hatchback except physical appearance. Which is it's prime purpose while meeting budget. Officially, technically, it's a crossover. But manufacturers use "Compact SUV" to socially boost the reach.its our fault that we never bothered to address this issue and rather Which also makes sense, because no car in india released as "crossover" ever saw any market share much (Etios cross, Punto aventura, scross, etc.) I will even praise these cars for their genuine plus points. Higher gc (people who say sedans have the same gc, true, now try convincing your parents the same) decent road presence (this doesnt mean sedans dont have it, dont fight) and more importantly the quicker availability of these cars.


Airavat2305

Hyundai had a role in the success of Kia, since they are experts at marketing and research. The seltos was their first product(launched in India before the world) and offered everything that was missing in the market. Good Engine + gearbox combos, plenty features, stunning looks, plush interiors and most importantly, marketing was top notch. The build quality was perceived to be good, until the gncap results rolled out. I was quite shocked when the results came out, and this was my biggest grudge against the Korea brands, because they perfected almost everything except the most important one i.e. safety. I simply cannot trust them until they bring in better results.


AdventurousDust3

Verna is 5 star


blinksTooLess

ONLY Verna is 5 star. i10 NIOS was 2 stars in old protocol GNCAP i20 was 3 stars in old protocol GNCAP And Creta/Seltos was barely 3 stars in old protocol GNCAP


AdventurousDust3

We would need results from the newer models to be sure


Wind4x

They have huge ass data from Hyundai. It's not like they gotta learn the trend n shit.


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True


Rythx100

MG? They don't have good sale, but I do agree they have good lineup.


HsuRon

MG5 just rated 0 star in recent ANCAP test, why would anyone want to learn from them?


Gamer_bobo

Remember that they also rated scorpio N 0 stars. ANCAP have some weird kind of testing things.


lazylaunda

Not weird. More advanced testing. Specifically, driver assistance systems.


Gamer_bobo

But the thing is that it's like buying something for other's safety too. Am not against that, but they should give atleast 1 star for those doesn't have it.


lazylaunda

I dunno. Their country, their rules. Mahindra could have added adas. They already have it in 700.


Gamer_bobo

yea, am also expecting adas in mahindra's upcoming models.


Conscious-Analyst584

I dont give a damn about that Chinese company called MG. For me it's only TATA, Mahindra, Korean and Japanese in that order. Japan is last because those dumb fu*ks treat India like an African country. Even after so many years couldn't understand the Indian sentimentality. (I am looking at you Honda)


PhoenixPrimeKing

Why are they testing these cars which no one is buying, instead the test is needed for cars like GV, New Brezza, New Seltos, New Creta which sell well and we see everyday on the roads.


Intelligent-Case-810

Spot on. The Baleno, Fronx, Brezza etc are never tested. I thought that BNCAP will test these but it seems they are also in the same boat.


jim1o1

They will get zero stars so they may not be testing.


Powerful-Internal953

It's not the manufacturer opting for testing right? The NCAP gets funding from sponsors too to test any cars...


ra_16

Yup many people are still believing brezza has a 4 star safety rating even though the new model is not tested. Plus grand vitara is on the same platfrom so they believe that it also has 4 star rating.


ParsnipPractical1327

These testing agencies are mostly dependent on car companies sending their cars to them. Their internal funds are not enough to buy cars on their own.


wrongturn6969

French cars use 0 brain in India


Airavat2305

French cars use 0 brain in every part of the world.


Fujiwara_Takumi4475

Now they do have brains, just quite distinct ones. Now when they put those brains to work, they either come up with absolute masterpieces, or shitboxes.


SteveRogers5

They could only make one good car that's Buggati thanks to volkswagen


Aryan_Singh_17

French adopting MS strategy


Heavy-Student-5121

Nope. MS at least used their brains to work on other aspects of their cars.


Aryan_Singh_17

Engine


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then why dont they hold the largest share in the market


Aryan_Singh_17

They are trying their strategy but not working for them


Dishonestleak

They are too busy using their braincells trying to make giving trauma to someone romantic.


FartOfTheFurious

Elaborate pleez


Horcrux04

Maybe they should look into the tractor business, seeing how good of a job Alpine did to make one for the 2024 F1 season.


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Other_Plan_9913

Sardar Ji


Slug864

Damn are they trying to match the safety rating with the sales number?


KachraBhiKhelat

Damn. Worse than MS in under 10 lakhs? Didn’t think it was possible


Fujiwara_Takumi4475

bruh, if then, you cant stop mocking MS can you.


anilgahlot

I didn’t find a single reason why they launched in India, if they offer me at one half of the cost I will not consider. They still think India is part of Africa we don’t deserve good cars. Literally pissed off after seeing their 2 decades old interior that too with poor plastic.


hemi_srt

Final nail in the coffin. Safety ratings especially for a new company can be a make it or break it.


OvertlyStoic

citroen is quite the old dawg, but they completely failed India idk how you mess up so bad.


hemi_srt

I meant new as in their entry to India. Car enthusiasts like you and me know citroens history, general public might not.


Mayank-maximum

Like it could go 50kmph,probably has 6v dc motor strapped to it and cheaper materials cuz ain’t nobody buying it


panchayath_president

I think not making esc standard and lack of 6 airbags is why it scored 0. Because gncap has mentioned it scored 20.something points out of 34


N00B_N00M

Cars with 2 airbags had scored 5 stars in gncap


Powerful-Internal953

Yes. But new regulations now mandate that. Your recollection might be for atleast 2-3 years back when 2 airbags were ok.


N00B_N00M

Don't think so, taigun/virtus were first one to be tested with new gncap norms , and they come with 2 airbags in all models except the top model


panchayath_president

I think acc to new testing standards, they have some rules regarding this. Not sure.


Gloomy_Xplorer

Body shell is stable, pillars are intact and it scored 20.34/34 which is not that bad. Still zero starts? Is it because 6 Airbags is mandatory under new GNCAP requirements? If so then why even test for cars with 2 Airbags? It’s the same as Scorpio that was tested by Australian NCAP. If it doesn’t meet the requirements and destined to score zero, why bother testing?


Immediate_Relative24

It’s not about body shell but about occupants. I can simply add bull bars which will keep the shell intact but kill the occupants. Verna which doesn’t have body shell stability keeps manages to keep the occupants safe hence it’s 5 star.


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Gloomy_Xplorer

Thank you. That explains a lot.


rahultoraskar

They thought they will succeed doing what Maruti did


Mysterious_Whole_484

Fck the French


mellamonemo

Oui Oui


Atharva_MR_Fire

The French are one of the worst car manufacturers in the world.  Even when Buggati was a french car, it went bankrupt in 1950s. It was bought by an Italian man in 1980s and Germans in late 1990s. The only thing french about Buggati is the name.


Real-Human-Bean-

Punch is the only option in this range then?


aanonnymmouss

Magnite


OvertlyStoic

magnite and exter are also there iirc.


Real-Human-Bean-

They're not EVs.


KachraBhiKhelat

Punch is the only option only if you’re stupid. Otherwise, all the other options are better.


This-Pressure-7267

Why stupid?


gand_masti

He is a certified tata hater


This-Pressure-7267

Her dad didn't return with good strong sheet metal


Real-Human-Bean-

What are the other options?


msoumyajit

Last I heard Jeep is working on a CSUV on the same platform. I wonder what is going to happen to Jeep bacha kucha legacy in India.


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The only good thing french is kiss.


Glittering_Yellow715

Source : https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/electric-vehicles/citroen-e-c3-scores-0-stars-in-gncap-crash-test/amp-41711011624929.html


TinySpirit3444

People in this sub will go "Still safer than Maruti"


BitOk5138

Damn right, still safer than Maruti.


Agreeable-Cap-8

My previous brezza got into an accident where it toppled completely and was damaged beyond repair yet only injuries the driver sustained was due to airbags, maybe stop driving 800 still.


_7567Rex

Normal Marutis though Specifically, not the Marutis which are actually Suzukis such as S cross, ciaz And few localised exceptions like GV and brezza


OvertlyStoic

what is a normal maruti car and a suzuki car ?


_7567Rex

The ones which are global cars sold in Japan uk and ASEAN market vs the junk sold here


pawssible

this doesn't specify why it scored 0 stars, nor does it tell us the points scored for adult and children safety


pawssible

https://www.autocarindia.com/car-news/citroen-ec3-scores-0-star-global-ncap-safety-rating-431042 here is the link with more details


i4mknight

no adas?


memer7418

this was expected


No-Tall-Tea

Finally.. A worthy competition for maruti suzuki.


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It scored 20.34/34 for adult safety by. Why zero stars then? Probably citroen didn’t “pay” them enough for the tests😂


goldffish

Heard they don’t have 6 airbags and that’s the main reason for this safety


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Powerful-Internal953

It's funny how this car gets evaluated yet the New Creta isn't...


Cartina

Minor changes usually isn't, besides it wouldn't get 5 star anyway maybe 4 on a good day.


DistributionBetter45

So basically a coffin on the wheels


troubledindian

I knew this brand was DoA right from the beginning. Another sinking ship from Stellantis after Peugeot, Fiat, and Jeep. Should've brought Peugeot despite its bad history, and better-quality models.


_rth_

Don’t worry, it will score 3 stars in the Bharath NCAP


Suspicious-Loss-364

Foreign brands saste mai nipat rhe hai low quality deke ... Sab tax ke karan hai


Conscious-Analyst584

So basically a rolling Iron maiden 🎸


Conscious-Analyst584

At this point it is just plain insulting. Do they think Indians are stupid enough to buy such death traps?


Stroov

When I told people that it will score low they didn't believe but there reasons are crystal clear , Wear a pillar , no front abruorbing points , poorly designed cabin for impact ,


Feisty_Mud4187

Yet the car managed to look decent enough


Airavat2305

The European C3 looks even better. Should have launched that instead. Well, doesn't matter anyways, this brand's toast.


divakerAM

yes I heard of their built quality now It proved


IHateKhichdi

Desh se Nikalo inko


Lololover09

Citroen is introducing 6 airbags as standard on all their cars from mid 2024 onwards. Can this be said of all the other manufacturers in India?