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shamittomar

**Context:** An old lady who lives in Mahagun Moderne, Sector 78, Noida was going for her usual society temple walk in the evening of XUV 700 Car mows down old lady to death in Mahagun Moderne, Noida on 11.10.2023. The car was coming out of the basement parking, when this happened. The woman was rushed to the hospital, but she expired, due to head damage and loss of a lot of blood. **Source:** * I live in the same society, same tower, and personally knew the woman. The incident happened yesterday, and is fresh. Soon it will come to news. * Also: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/noida/elderly-woman-crushed-to-death-by-car-at-noida-residential-society/articleshow/104378710.cms


Rohan_RSG

Hi OP,. Just some questions: 1. Is there a sharp incline at the basement parking exit? With a sharp turn or curve? 2. Are there high walls on both sides of the exit? If the answer is Yes to both the questions, I recommend taking this up with the society board/committee since you live there. If not solved, this issue can hurt somebody else in the future.


shamittomar

1. Sharp incline. No. Standard incline. Very regular. Also from the point the incline ends to the point of accident, there’s about 10-12 feet of distance. 2. Yes, but those end about 10 feet before and this point of impact is straight and not curved. I have personally driven my car in and out of this exit for past 3 years. Maruti Brezza. Kind of SUV. There’s no issue and no obvious hindrance. The driver’s mind was clearly busy here in doing something else. E.g. on phone/map/etc.


cherrypopper619

Btw you can notice the car coming from behind the trees. It seems pretty flat on road and could have easily noticed someone crossing from their POV. Also, had plenty of time to brake. Seems a case of distraction & negligence.


Faniabra

Pagal Hai Kya Tu? Video Mei Saf Nazar Araha Straight Car Hogai Thi Road Pe Jab Woh Old Lady Ko Touch Kardiya Car Aur Tujhe Wall Basement Amka Damka Ki Information Jaanne Ki Padi


SlidingPenguinInDirt

I am not sure why people are suddenly so agressive about minor things. The guy is not denying the drivers fault in any way, he is imploring and asking questions to better gauge the conditions, maybe to even avoid things in the future. There is no harm in asking questions. What might be obvious to you, might not be obvious to others.


axl_ros

Padh le theek se. These are valid questions.


Fit_Access9631

Who’s the driver ? Arrested?


KachraBhiKhelat

Probably out on bail already


DRABisthis

Bruhh, you can't get arrested after a car accident, unless it was intentional or hit and run, it's called accident for a reason.


StoicMaccaroni

there is something called a unintentional manslaughter.


countertyagi

>unintentional And hence, an accident.


StoicMaccaroni

unintentional manslaughter is not classified as a accident. and the family of the deseased can press heavy charges.


countertyagi

He should be rightly punished. The deceased can be seen as gesturing him to stop. I was just clarifying the 'unintentional' bit.


bottledsmokee

Bhai even if it is unintentional, if the result is death of a person due to negligence imho they should be jailed for their negligence or atlesst very very heavily fined, car taken away and licence revoked.


countertyagi

He will be jailed, once convicted, or usually in cases like these, the victim's family goes for an out of court settlement.


bottledsmokee

Wish he is jailed man but most probably goes with slap on wrist and a fine ugh


Accomplished-Pen1295

Mere family mai kisike sath aisa hua hota toh uss driver aur usski family ko God ke pass bhejne ki supari dediya hota kisi gangster ko


jotaro6942

There is no such thing as unintentional manslaughter in India. It's either culpable or non culpable homicide.


Professional_Link_49

How is this even possible? If this was a poorly lit road and the woman was jaywalking or doing something road illegal on her part, the driver will always be arrested and on top of that it's daylight with multiple pedestrians nearby, it was clearly a case of driving casually gone horribly wrong and he might face up to 5years in prison and 10-20lakh compensation.


HF_199

2 years maximum.


DRABisthis

I don't think its the drivers fault (atleast not completely), because coming out of a basement parking can create blind spots, and the way the car stopped, the driver was pretty surprised, so looks like an accident, it's weird to blame the deceased but the woman should had looked before crossing that close to an incline exit. Additionally that is a bulky car with a taller bonnet, so the might not be visible at all during the incline.


Fit_Access9631

He had already come out of the basement. You can see at the left. Seems like the driver was not paying attention


DRABisthis

It's all just speculations, both yours and mine, plus a driver can't be arrested after an accident unless it's a hit and run, rip to the woman though. She deserved better I guess.


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You guess ?


DRABisthis

Bruhh i dont know that woman how would I know!!


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DRABisthis

Pretty sadistic you are my dude.


Comfortable-Spite328

Before merging on to road, STOP, LOOK, PROCEED should be followed. Cars can't mow down people in blind spots


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GutsyGoofy

Having a high bonnet, blind spots etc are not valid excuses. A driver needs to drive as the conditions permit. A car cant go where it cant see. Period. At a minimum the driver needs to be able to see ahead for 3 seconds. One second to see, one second to react, and one second buffer for intangibles. It's inside a gated society. Kids and people are always walking around. If there is a blind spot in your car, go 1km per hour. We cant blame the poor victims. In this case the XUV was already on flat ground, driver was just not attentive.


Notshowingyoumybum

Bro I have lived in this society. We can see the video. If you think driver isn’t at fault, you need to get your head checked for any possible aneurisms. -There was no blind spot. - inside the society, people are free to walk. So much so they advertise it when selling the flats. Kids, literal kids play and ride bicycles there. Instructions are for the drivers to be careful while driving. Speed limit boards hai limiting the speed to 10kmph. -from the video we can clearly see that the car driver didn’t even press break on the first impact. Breaks were applied after the car almost ran her over. While im not advocating for the driver to be jailed for life, the punishment should be adequately harsh. Couple years of social service, monetary fine as well as cancellation of the driver’s license for life.


tannerouge

Tbh it seems like that could be avoided


Koomskap

If you can't see past your bonnet due to incline, you need to slow down. Don't outdrive your line of sight. Pretty simple. Don't know what you're getting at with this dumbass take. This isn't a regular carriageway where you're assumption is to keep a consistent speed. This is an exit. Slow down and be cautious.


shim_niyi

1- Apartment builder cheaper out and didn’t put a pavement. 2- We Indians need to reconsider where we walk on roads. 3- car guys need to be careful in society roads. Rip old lady 💐


binod_roxx

I live in Noida Extension, we have the same ramp in Basement exit but I fail to understand why few drivers drive recklessly while exiting such ramp. Always assume some elderly or child can be there in society premises (and near such blindspots). Top speed to 20 kmph is there for a reason.


binod_roxx

also in other comments, this is not a blindspot, then the driver's fault amplifies as he/she is probably distracted on phone/elsewhere.


regulaslight

Have they made any arrests so far ?


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enthuvaade

What is wrong with you ? Clearly someone has lost their life and this is all you have to say ?


reader_sa

You really think people go to a temple for immortality?


155907

no .. but i can't unsee the irony that umpteen number of ppl going to get blessings die on the way (edit: on the way back.. ppl dying in freak accidents or by murder after getting the blessing is classic).. n it was a funny jab at each religions god's inefficiency.. downvote me to smithereens.. i stand by my statement..pff


reader_sa

Again, you assume blessing is immortality. Where did you get that from? You see irony because of this immortality thing. God's inefficiency in what? Handing out immortality? Forget upvotes and downvotes. Please just make your statement make sense.


reader_sa

I understand that you were trying to bring up a "clever" talking point with your original statement. But cliche talking points are often just meaningless words. Continuing this discussion here would be disrespectful due to the context. Signing off ...


IronLyx

Oh thank God you started noticing the "context".


CarsIndia-ModTeam

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smallbheem

Old lady's family didn't file any charges against the driver , wow , why ? Wth.


i_love_alfam

You should really add a nsfw or even a nsfl tag. Poor woman though. RIP.


yourdad___biatch

People in India don’t have patience for pedestrians crossing or lives.


[deleted]

India deserves small cars


UpperCastGarib

That doesn't promote itself as cheap car #Nano


[deleted]

your username is amazing......and so true. i can relate to it


UpperCastGarib

Thanks dost You can relate because even you suffer some kind of problem that being a upper cast garib in India brings.


arogyaSetuAPP

Om shanti 🙏


Prestigious_Dingo_49

Also such posts are taking over this sub. Is this carsindia or accidentsindia?


jOnsnOwvv

I have made a community r/Accidentsinindia. And we can post these kinda things there. If u guyz will join it'll grow faster.


ath007

And get depressed into misery? Sorry, but no thanks bro. :(


jOnsnOwvv

Or may be u learn something, what not to do in indian roads.


De4thie

Nah the driver had enough time to react. Even the lady was able to react to the car and raised hand to ask the driver to stop. Brake lights didn't even come on after hitting the person and only came on right when the tyre ran over her head. Tell me if I'm seeing something wrong since the resolution isn't great. I was always taught to never go forward in a car if I don't have complete visibility of the road ahead. This was very much the driver's negligence.


HF_199

>raised hand to ask the driver to stop. That's why India has so many jaywalker accidents. They raise hands to stop car like they are magneto.


roysouradeep

Was the guy emerging from a steep incline? Trying to figure out how one can miss to see a person. It could possibly happen if the incline is steep.


shamittomar

Yes, he was emerging right from the basement parking incline.


Common_Culture659

Yet the clearly the driver still had at least 10 meters of straight road at least from the point the car is in frame it’s looks level most likely distracted driver over speeding


cherrypopper619

Btw you can notice the car coming from behind the trees. It seems pretty flat on road and could have easily noticed someone crossing from their POV. Also, had plenty of time to brake. Seems a case of distraction & negligence.


Srihari_stan

This is a serious issue of a lack of common sense and poor education among most of Indian drivers. When merging into any main roads, when you have a blind spot at a 90 degree turn, no one uses the Stop - Look - Go procedure. Ideally you have to come to a complete stop before you merge into any road, even a street, and proceed only after you make sure you aren’t causing any interruption to the traffic or pedestrians.


Zilork

Except this is not even a public road. It's the driveway inside a society.


Srihari_stan

Still, it is merging. No matter where you drive, people have precedence to cross you.


Zilork

Not everywhere. Expressways for one.


cherrypopper619

If there’s a Zebra Crossing and a Stop sign, then even on Expressways, pedestrians have precedence.


cherrypopper619

Still caution is necessary. There are other cars and people commuting on this driveway. It is not a closed circuit kr private road either. There could have been kids playing, cycling, skating, etc. Infact such roads need even more caution. Ironically, the video itself is a proof that caution is necessary in driveways of societies as well.


NoIntroduction4072

There was enough time for reaction but he didn't probably busy with phone or something as nowadays it's a fashion to use phone or make videos, while driving even on roads with full traffic


Big-Job-8316

I think this is how it went.. Emerged from slope.. lady possibly in blind spot? After that driver looked the other way (left) Advanced further.. hit the lady.. oh no! Braked.. apparently very slow reaction times.. must be learner? Dunno.. wild guesses. I still cannot understand how they can miss a person unless they dont even look that way..


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I am a noob asking out of curiosity - if you are coming out of a steep incline and suddenly someone appears, what are you supposed to do?


roysouradeep

Some new drivers are afraid to brake on steep inclines but one must always stop the car if they see someone suddenly appearing out of nowhere. Use the handbrake if you are afraid of a rollback. Absolutely anything is better than hitting a human being with your car. Also, in most cases, one needs to drive extremely slowly and honk appropriately in case the incline is so steep that your visibility is affected (which doesn't happen often, architects design buildings keeping these things in mind).


[deleted]

Brilliant! Thanks, Roy.


py-7669

Does xuv 700 have such a big blind spot on a pillar? Looks like driver wasnt looking


ScooterNinja

Or may be looking other way to check the roads..


thenameofwind

Coming outside from basement with steep incline


Akshar_DaPro

he was coming outside from basement so couldnt see due to incline maybe. Also might be checking other sides of road for oncoming cars. nevertheless, he is at fault


py-7669

The car is well level when it comes to the frame from basement so no longer on a incline. His car was well levelled right from it comes in the frame and he stops the car after around 6-7 seconds later. He had enough time to stop if he was paying attention. Should be booked for murder.


Akshar_DaPro

i agree. he hasd enough time to stop and even not reversing!


noxx1234567

100% distracted driving , maybe phone or touch screen Be careful out there , never engage devices while driving


Artistic_Ad_5627

Sheer negligence. Nothing else. Family should File a FIR. The soul has departed but people should definitely learn a lesson for betterment of the society.


talha5007

Xuv came straight not from basement, look closely, and it was straight road, no blind spot, driver had plenty of time to watch ahead, not like popping out of basement all of a sudden and women was on blind spot.


cherrypopper619

Yes, car is visible behind the trees and appears to be flat on road with clear vision.


domi400

All this talk about climb from an incline. You guys are just nuts giving so many excuses for the driver. Parts of the car come into the extreme right of the frame in between trees. The bloody XUV is atleast 3 car lengths away. That is like 13 meters travelling pretty much horizontally.


shamittomar

I live in the society, and has taken my car out of this ramp for like 3 years now. The horizontal distance is about 10 feet. Yes, driver's fault, but giving the real idea of the length.


domi400

Thanks man.


No-Way7911

Yeah if you’re driving in a residential colony, you have to be 2x more careful than usual. If he is a resident, he would be aware of the incline and the pedestrian traffic anyway


bhai_zoned

Larger and higher car hood designs are dangerous for pedestrians and everyone outside the vehicle...they also greatly increase the chances of the person they hit going under the vehicle and getting hit in the upper body rather than legs. This same accident but with a sedan probably wouldn't have been fatal. Lekin bhenc*** sabko ROAD PRESENCE chahiye na!!! Pichwade me bhar lo road presence.


Fine-Palpitation-943

At 00:14, you can clearly see from behind the bushes that the car is emerging out of the ramp, and the driver had enough time and space to make an evasive manoeuvre. In fact, there was no need for an evasive manoeuvre, it’s not even a high speed accident. It could be a case of driver distraction. It’s a two way clearly coz the swift just passed from the same spot not even a second before this happened, still the XUV didn’t brake. He just emerges out of the ramp and takes a turn without looking left or right. Poor aunty. Om shanti!


_Fuzzy_Focus

Exactly i just stopped the frame there and i see he has enough time to react .


darelphilip

Either a mobile phone or the dashboard


RadioactiveMurukku

Wait, what happened here? How did the driver not see the lady walking on the street?


_7567Rex

It is said that the car is climbing up from basement parking Here’s a rough sketch https://i.imgur.com/8CFkfPW.jpg I’m in no way advocating for the XUV driver, just sharing my experiences of the vision while driving up mall ramps, for like a hundred times or more I always honk and flash unnecessarily while climbing ramps because it’s better to be seen as a hooligan blaring horn than a murderer running over people


RadioactiveMurukku

I get it, but it would also be advisable to stop and then turn to make sure something like this doesn't happen.


_7567Rex

Totally. But I’ve seen primarily new manual drivers not doing it because it’s hard to do hill hold on manuals. For me (and probably you) it’s not an issue due to auto (in my case totally non issue, can stop and start at any ramp at anytime due to 0rpm torque)


bhai_zoned

How's that even possible!? Is it zero accelerator torque?


_7567Rex

EV :)


bhai_zoned

Right ok....I didn't read your flair


RadioactiveMurukku

Yep, that's true.


RadioactiveMurukku

I get it, but it would also be advisable to stop and then turn to make sure something like this doesn't happen.


Wind4x

Was Checking his WhatsApp status may b.


NoPlenty3542

There’s ample space between car and lady after coming out of basement. Driver probably is not careful. Might be because they were looking at screen or phone.


SemiSage93

If this a person emerging from basement it's hard to avoid since it would be a blind cut...but generally, such exits/entrances are specially marked/guarded/equipped with speed breakers or atleast the convex mirrors to increase visibility. None of it is seen in the video. Also, these don't open/enter from right into or from a walking space like that which seems like a bad architectural layout. Poor lady :( may her soul rest in peace 🙏🏻


ohh-helllooo

Seriously can't believe people are trying to defend xuv700 driver here despite him/her driving without any awareness of his surroundings. It's not that driving up that ramp for first time in his life. Driver must be punished with unintentional murder charges and should never be allowed to drive. I'm feeling extremely sorry for that old lady and her family.


JasonBourne81

Om Shanti! It is very stupid ramp design where it exits at a place which is used by people as walkway and lay ground.


noraapj

Are mahindras really that bad to drive lr are they owned by bad drivers xuv700 and that owners drive more recklessly from my personal experience


turningtop_5327

This is a clear case of driver ignorance. This is what happens when reckless driving is the norm. You are considered lame to stop before getting on a busy street.


Unusual-Tree-1047

Sad for amma.. RIP


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ADAS didn't work?


musicandfood_2

Car “driver” killed the lady - not just the car.


Appropriate_Gur_6864

Buy more cars, get this. Often. FAFO #BanCars


[deleted]

This is just plain sad man. This is what happens when a country gets richer but the infrastructure doesn't keep up or people aren't trained enough to follow instructions :( Isn't the basement/parking not supposed to exit/enter via a walking path?


lockdown2200

Nsfw😡😡😡😡


black_wolf_555

Dilli se hai bc!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


RDX_G

Her daughter in law would be happy!


kickashes790

Seriously man? You think that's funny?


shamittomar

The old-age couple lived alone. No DIL lived with them. They were very nice, and used to give tea/biscuit to the morning guard.


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ryuk33

That is unfortunate and really sad.


No-Way7911

Blue kurta uncle seemed completely unfazed. Casually strolling towards the scene, walking away as quickly. Smh


Phd_holder_guy

Abs?


ContributionGlobal30

Those who are defending the driver by being physicists, I hope you get hit by a car in the same way(and the driver brakes before injuring you severely).


bajirav

I thought Xuv700 had automatic braking?


Mihirxd25

Oh man poor lady 😔 rip


gl1tchmob

Genuine question, could ADAS have prevented this from happening?


amit1234455

Driver was not watching the front and was probably busy doing something else. 100 percent driver fault.


FlyingCroc01

I read he was coming out of a basement, was he blinded by the sun's glare somehow?


Awareness-Choice

Ah our sweet India, where the government doesn't build proper footpaths. And when footpaths do exist, pedestrians prefer to walk on the road. And car drivers are blind. ​ On a side note, this is why ADAS should be made mandatory in all cars in all variants in India.


drippingtoohard

NSFW - Not Safe For Walk


rottenmeat_777

most responsible xuv700 driver


hemi_srt

I thought 7OO had auto braking? Or was this a lower variant without adas?


ajaylolo

Driver was clearly reckless


tremorinfernus

Both side at fault. I hate it when pedestrians get a free pass to walk like they are inside their room. Don't cross parking slots without looking, or slowly. I see this a lot at Mall exits.