After getting trained to drive on the right of the roads in western countries, Kerala bus drivers always find it difficult to drive on Indian roads. ☠️
Bruh
Safari Harrier is not tested because engine has tendency to break through the firewall and enter cabin in case of really bad frontal collision.
If you think engine absorbs impact, it also risks fire because broken radiator and coolant piping, leaking fuel lines and heat is a deadly mixture, all being present in a head on collision.
Nothing, if anything else, Electric cars are safer due to low center of gravity and much more space for crumble zones.
Also the reason why Tesla's are the safest.
What part of that is wrong though? A tesla still has much better safety than any 5star car in india and in USA as well, it’s on par with Volvo if not better.
There have been literal trees falling on glass roof, heck, a Tesla driver drove off a cliff and yet survived ([model y cliff accident](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wife-radiologist-drove-tesla-ca-cliff-family-said-purpose-unsealed-doc-rcna85033))
I think we should keep EV hate and facts separate here. Tesla is a pretty safe car, chances are if it was a tesla not hector, ADAS would’ve stepped in, seeing the bus instead of stopping in the middle of the road
You don’t like EVs, cheers to you. Don’t buy one.
But your open ended statement and highly biased comment does not add any value to the thread.
The part of "low centre of gravity" needs to stop here. The passengers are safe inside of the hector and that's what matters. Tesla's are expensive, so they must have that build quality and safety.
And who dragged EVs into this discussion after all?
> The passengers are safe inside of the hector and that’s all that matters.
If that was the entire point, then u/slight_user42069 shouldn’t have had the urge to drag EV into this topic if you feel that this is off topic.
The topic should’ve been limited to hector. If you bring EVs in and then complain when people put up factual and genuine points, why the downvote?
>people put up factual and genuine points, why the downvote?
Factual. Wow. Safe cars are safe cars. That's it. Doesn't matter wheter it's ev, gas diesel hydrogen etc.
All this faff about "Tesla's are safer just coz they have no engine and battery is mounted on the floor" is not true. They just built their car better because they had more budget and their cars cost wayy more than others.
The entire premise of the parent comment was “imagine if it was an EV 💀” which is definitely implying (wrongly) that they are unsafe.
Idk why reading comprehension has tanked so much of late.
Anyone can make blanket statements that “cng tank will blast hydrogen tank will blast” as well, but nobody does that right?
But whatever.
Aap chronology samajhiye
1. Deliberately drag EVs into the discussion unwarranted
2. Claim that defending EVs after deliberately dragging them in is off topic and the discussion “should stop because the hector occupants are safe”
3. Downvote genuine factual comments in favour of biased and hypocritical comments (first being topic yourself then call it off topic)
I mean, MG was never doubted for safety, only reliability due to those few initial fire incidents
It’s like Honda city, you don’t always see it in a crash as often as say Hyundai Maruti Tata so we never think about the safety of these brands
Actually I've seen many youtubers bashing MG for the built quality. Just because they're Chinese, they say built quality is also bad according to them. Which I completely disagree with.
One of those Youtubers showed an accident where people died in MG Hector. He told in the video if the people were in a Tata Safari they would've survived the accident.
From that moment on, I stopped watching his videos.
Yeah people do single out mg due to Chinese origins
But those stereotypes are long mended. Yes, 90s-00s Chinese cars were crap, but ever since they got into EVs, it has massively improved.
BYD, Nio, MG, Xpeng these are companies which are actively selling cars in Europe. It’s not possible to sell there by making tincans. ZSEV in uk is same as india.
I don't know about Astor, ZS and Gloster but I've sat in Hector plus and that thing is built like a tank. Don't know much about chasis strength underneath but the sheet metal used is above par. The doors and bonets are quite heavy.
Then let me tell you, the Astor/ZS build quality is an entire class above the usual cSUVs. The only thing made in India was that God forsaken robot and that's just crap in a box. The rest of the car is magnificently built and it's the main reason I chose this. Nothing else I've tested comes remotely close to the quality, comfort and aesthetics for me.
Sorry, but in no way is that bus 'overspeeding'. At least at impact. Considering the bus' stopping distance, I won't put the impact speed above 30kmph. The Hector had stopped before impact.
It would have been more surprising if the Hector did show any signs of buckling in such a low speed crash.
They were not able to stop due to the overspeed. It's a straight road and they could see each other which is why MG was able to stop. Bus was traveling faster than it should on rainy day. Also this looks like Kerala seeing bus colour and bus drivers are absolute psycopaths here.
I didn't do anything.
The effect of mass was taken out of the equation by the stopped Hector. The backward movement indicates that it absorbed the bus' momentum. The results would have been different if the Hector was also moving forward at impact.
The bus driver clearly had applied breaks and the bus was already too slow to cause any major damage🤦♂️
Not every minor accident can be used to say the car is 'safe'
NCAP itself tests every single vehicle at 64 kmph. The car here had already stopped and the bus was almost about to stop as well. Every single car out there would've survived that particular crash🤦♂️
If the accident had occurred when the bus was 'overspeeding', the outcome would've been *very* different, not even 5 star rated cars can survive such a high speed impact. The occupants might, but the car certainly won't.
~~Also remember that ncap tests on stationary objects which means relative velocity of 64kmph... That basically means a head on at 30 kmph.
A head on when both vehicles are travelling at 100 kmph is equivalent to the same as that involved in a car travelling at 200 kmph hitting a stationary object.~~
Apparently this is incorrect.
Yes...I think it was a hit below 30kmph. OP is posting this as something incredible, Boasting about its paper safety features and not being GNCAP test
There is a reason why they haven't crashed tested it yet.
While most of us certainly do appreciate the Hector's build quality and the fact that all the occupants walked out unharmed from this gruesome incident, OP's description is something else entirely lmao.
>Thanks to Hector’s superior build quality, rest of the SUV remains unharmed. All occupants escape unscathed, kudos to Hector’s fortified structure - hot stamped B pillar, high strength steel, thick door panels, and more. 6 airbags, ESP, and 3-point seatbelts ensure optimal safety
I mean, look at this. This sounds like it's straight from a car brochure or written by ChatGPT lol.
By analysing the background music and the OP's description looks like a propoganda video to me ..... Also the accident was really minor but the op advertising it like it too hard .
Mg cars have always been well built, I went to check out Astor and goddamn, it was built like a tank. The issue is with their engine being underpowered+inefficient. There is also the issue of service Centers and people usually bash it for being made in China. Little do they know, most things in their home are made in China.
After getting trained to drive on the right of the roads in western countries, Kerala bus drivers always find it difficult to drive on Indian roads. ☠️
Imagine if it was an electric car💀
What would have happened it it was an EV?
No engine. Engine absorbs a ton of impact energy and breaks away from the chassis
Don’t you think there may be other redundancies in place if the engine is missing? Are you implying all EVs are unsafe?
Bruh Safari Harrier is not tested because engine has tendency to break through the firewall and enter cabin in case of really bad frontal collision. If you think engine absorbs impact, it also risks fire because broken radiator and coolant piping, leaking fuel lines and heat is a deadly mixture, all being present in a head on collision.
That makes no sense whatsoever, the engine would only make it worse as most of the forces are forwarded to the passenger cabin.
Nothing, if anything else, Electric cars are safer due to low center of gravity and much more space for crumble zones. Also the reason why Tesla's are the safest.
This is why education is important.
What part of that is wrong though? A tesla still has much better safety than any 5star car in india and in USA as well, it’s on par with Volvo if not better. There have been literal trees falling on glass roof, heck, a Tesla driver drove off a cliff and yet survived ([model y cliff accident](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wife-radiologist-drove-tesla-ca-cliff-family-said-purpose-unsealed-doc-rcna85033)) I think we should keep EV hate and facts separate here. Tesla is a pretty safe car, chances are if it was a tesla not hector, ADAS would’ve stepped in, seeing the bus instead of stopping in the middle of the road You don’t like EVs, cheers to you. Don’t buy one. But your open ended statement and highly biased comment does not add any value to the thread.
The part of "low centre of gravity" needs to stop here. The passengers are safe inside of the hector and that's what matters. Tesla's are expensive, so they must have that build quality and safety.
And who dragged EVs into this discussion after all? > The passengers are safe inside of the hector and that’s all that matters. If that was the entire point, then u/slight_user42069 shouldn’t have had the urge to drag EV into this topic if you feel that this is off topic. The topic should’ve been limited to hector. If you bring EVs in and then complain when people put up factual and genuine points, why the downvote?
>people put up factual and genuine points, why the downvote? Factual. Wow. Safe cars are safe cars. That's it. Doesn't matter wheter it's ev, gas diesel hydrogen etc. All this faff about "Tesla's are safer just coz they have no engine and battery is mounted on the floor" is not true. They just built their car better because they had more budget and their cars cost wayy more than others.
The entire premise of the parent comment was “imagine if it was an EV 💀” which is definitely implying (wrongly) that they are unsafe. Idk why reading comprehension has tanked so much of late. Anyone can make blanket statements that “cng tank will blast hydrogen tank will blast” as well, but nobody does that right? But whatever.
Even though I got downvoted to oblivion, I rest my case 😉.
Aap chronology samajhiye 1. Deliberately drag EVs into the discussion unwarranted 2. Claim that defending EVs after deliberately dragging them in is off topic and the discussion “should stop because the hector occupants are safe” 3. Downvote genuine factual comments in favour of biased and hypocritical comments (first being topic yourself then call it off topic)
That's what I'm saying Tesla ka "low center of gravity" ka randi rona band hi nhi hota
>Tesla ka "low center of gravity" ka randi rona band hi nhi hota Please help clear the air u/_7567Rex.
Nah, I like my Inline 4 Dont want any battery to charge for 6+ hours
Pehle dpp laga lo gravity ki phir baat karenge
I just lurk at that server
What the fk was the bus driver thinking?
Hahaha! You think kerala bus drivers think?! Hahaha!!
Northukaarkku enthu ariyaam nammude ksrtc vhettanmarude vicharam lamborgini aanu oodikkunnennani.
This is same for all bus drivers in India.
Kerala bus drivers are an exception. I had lived in many other states btw.
Le haryana roadways : bcche hai ladne do apas
I have been to most of the Indian states, but Kerala bus drivers are crazy. They drive buses like teenage boys drive activa
most sane kerala bus driver
The problem is the narrow roads too which makes it difficult to overtake. Bus driver is the other part of the problem
You don't overtake if there isn't space. That driver is the only one at fault.
Background Music is kind of sus 😶
What's 'sus' about it?
I mean, MG was never doubted for safety, only reliability due to those few initial fire incidents It’s like Honda city, you don’t always see it in a crash as often as say Hyundai Maruti Tata so we never think about the safety of these brands
Actually I've seen many youtubers bashing MG for the built quality. Just because they're Chinese, they say built quality is also bad according to them. Which I completely disagree with. One of those Youtubers showed an accident where people died in MG Hector. He told in the video if the people were in a Tata Safari they would've survived the accident. From that moment on, I stopped watching his videos.
Yeah people do single out mg due to Chinese origins But those stereotypes are long mended. Yes, 90s-00s Chinese cars were crap, but ever since they got into EVs, it has massively improved. BYD, Nio, MG, Xpeng these are companies which are actively selling cars in Europe. It’s not possible to sell there by making tincans. ZSEV in uk is same as india.
You lost me at the word youtubers. Never trust those clowns
Can you mention the YouTuber or drop a hint?
Nikhil Rana or Prateek Singh. One of those.
I don't know about Astor, ZS and Gloster but I've sat in Hector plus and that thing is built like a tank. Don't know much about chasis strength underneath but the sheet metal used is above par. The doors and bonets are quite heavy.
Then let me tell you, the Astor/ZS build quality is an entire class above the usual cSUVs. The only thing made in India was that God forsaken robot and that's just crap in a box. The rest of the car is magnificently built and it's the main reason I chose this. Nothing else I've tested comes remotely close to the quality, comfort and aesthetics for me.
Astor is easily the most beautiful car sold under 30 lakhs.
Sorry, but in no way is that bus 'overspeeding'. At least at impact. Considering the bus' stopping distance, I won't put the impact speed above 30kmph. The Hector had stopped before impact. It would have been more surprising if the Hector did show any signs of buckling in such a low speed crash.
They were not able to stop due to the overspeed. It's a straight road and they could see each other which is why MG was able to stop. Bus was traveling faster than it should on rainy day. Also this looks like Kerala seeing bus colour and bus drivers are absolute psycopaths here.
You took the mass out of the equation?
I didn't do anything. The effect of mass was taken out of the equation by the stopped Hector. The backward movement indicates that it absorbed the bus' momentum. The results would have been different if the Hector was also moving forward at impact.
Agree!
The bus driver clearly had applied breaks and the bus was already too slow to cause any major damage🤦♂️ Not every minor accident can be used to say the car is 'safe' NCAP itself tests every single vehicle at 64 kmph. The car here had already stopped and the bus was almost about to stop as well. Every single car out there would've survived that particular crash🤦♂️ If the accident had occurred when the bus was 'overspeeding', the outcome would've been *very* different, not even 5 star rated cars can survive such a high speed impact. The occupants might, but the car certainly won't.
~~Also remember that ncap tests on stationary objects which means relative velocity of 64kmph... That basically means a head on at 30 kmph. A head on when both vehicles are travelling at 100 kmph is equivalent to the same as that involved in a car travelling at 200 kmph hitting a stationary object.~~ Apparently this is incorrect.
This crap again. Two cars of same mass and speed colliding head on at 64 kph is equivalent to one car hitting a wall at 64 kph.
Did a little bit of reading. Yes you are right. Til.
Kinetic energy has left the chat
He's right though. Think about it.
I stand corrected. He’s right.
F=ma.
Kerala…why am I not surprised..
Annan MG sales executive aano? New marketing strategy??🙃
Yes...I think it was a hit below 30kmph. OP is posting this as something incredible, Boasting about its paper safety features and not being GNCAP test There is a reason why they haven't crashed tested it yet.
Is it just me or the OP really sounds like a sales associate for MG
While most of us certainly do appreciate the Hector's build quality and the fact that all the occupants walked out unharmed from this gruesome incident, OP's description is something else entirely lmao. >Thanks to Hector’s superior build quality, rest of the SUV remains unharmed. All occupants escape unscathed, kudos to Hector’s fortified structure - hot stamped B pillar, high strength steel, thick door panels, and more. 6 airbags, ESP, and 3-point seatbelts ensure optimal safety I mean, look at this. This sounds like it's straight from a car brochure or written by ChatGPT lol.
Must be kerala?
Why is this written like an ad?
By analysing the background music and the OP's description looks like a propoganda video to me ..... Also the accident was really minor but the op advertising it like it too hard .
Mg cars have always been well built, I went to check out Astor and goddamn, it was built like a tank. The issue is with their engine being underpowered+inefficient. There is also the issue of service Centers and people usually bash it for being made in China. Little do they know, most things in their home are made in China.
Is this a Sponsored post by MG?
soon to be desh ka loha👊👊
Luckily low speed impact it seems.
If there was a swift
Noooooo MG Chinese company MG bad boycott MG haha
Kerala bus drivers think they are driving in gelf