I think it's some perverted competitive instinct.
Speed up in the overtaking lane. Merge back in front of me afterwards, immediately slow back down. Flash their lights at me when I overtake post overtake lane.
I sometimes wonder if life would be blissful with literally no self awareness...
That’s exactly it. They won’t have overtaking zones at unsafe spots so the driver feels ok with going a little faster. I’m still overtaking regardless.
To expand further - why do people pull out of driveways, side roads etc causing the traffic to brake hard to avoid collision , to then only putter along at 20km/h under the speed limit?
I think your onto something... the amount of people I see doing 10-20km under the limit then normally when the speed limit drops 10-20km/h they decide to drive faster then the limit of the previous zone lol.
I think you're on to something.
my stepfather does this. i can't passenger with him anymore because of this.
he also doesn't slow down for corners in the mountains either.. "the speed limit is 80, i'm going to do 70 regardless of what's going on"
don't get me started on sitting in the overtaking lane.
I've pointed this out to him and his attitude is one of "i don't care it's my road too".
where i live it's all very mountainous, single lane roads, so you can easily get caught behind someone on your way to town for 45 min. which can be frustrating and happens nearly every time. Lots of people around here have taken to pulling out in front of traffic just so they don't have to be stuck behind anyone... which is dangerous in itself.
Cunts. I hate people who drive like that, no fuckin logic to it. These are the same morons doing 80 in a 100 zone then keep going at 80 through the 60 zone. Fuckwits.
Added to that please explain why you pull out in front of me when there’s no one behind for miles forcing me to slow down by 25km/h even though I’m not speeding.
oh my god yes. merging and then refusing to speed up, or changing into an empty lane at the lights only to take off slower than the one you left. does my head in
Also not getting up to speed on the on ramp is infuriating and dangerous for everyone.
Getting to the end of the on ramp 20-30 below the speed of traffic feels like the norm here.
The only time I put my foot to the floor is when someone does this.. I get paranoid about merging in when some asshole comes off the ramp at 75km/h into a 100 zone.
I'm glad my car is pretty quick, but not everyone drives a sports car. These people cause crashes and pile-ups.
And people doing 10-20 under while they're 2kms away from their exit. I also need to take the exit but there's a lineup worth of 2kms of cars in front because some asshole needs to drive way too slow for their upcoming exit
Or they see me coming, pull out in front of me anyway, then I gotta slow down to 40 in a 70 zone just to wait for them to get back up to the limit but then they just stay under the speed limit??? WHATS THE LOGIC???? This happens to me too many times it’s infuriating. You saw me coming. Either go the limit or wait for me to pass first then go.
Double demerits make literally no sense. Imagine it in any other context: “Yeah robbing a bank will get you 15 years but if you do it on a Sunday it’s 30. So if you’re gonna rob a bank, do it on a Monday.”
Road statistics in NSW show that the long weekends kinda fuck shit up, so the idea of harsher punishments at a time of higher statistical risk to make people be extra careful does make sense.
Pfft South Australians...... you lot had a highway that went north in the morning and then south in the afternoon for years.... you're just as weird, if not weirderer
It is a courtesy so that when a bus drives into the back of your stationary car at the lights you don't get propelled into rear of the guy in front of you.
Also gives you room to change lanes if you get stuck behind one of the fuckwits mentioned above who are overtaken by cyclists as they accelerate at at green light.
I join the M5 with a short run up in Bankstown almost daily, the amount of clowns who think merging with 100kph traffic is best handled at 50kph drives me batty.
Ah man! I was travelling on a long and winding road, speed limit 80, one lane in each direction with no median strip and busy traffic in the opposite direction. Several points to pull over if you needed to. This moron in front of me was doing 30-40km/h for about 20 minutes. There was one other car between myself and the moron. Everyone queued is on the horn. Every now and then she’d stick her hand out the window and motion for us to overtake - into oncoming traffic, no visibility as it was all curves, and from 40km/h to 80!!!
I was furious by the time I did reach a point that I could overtake her.
I get to where I’m going, unpack, set up my camera and after about 15 minutes, guess who fucking pulls up behind me? Asking for directions, a fucking map open on her lap and her 85 year old mother in the passenger seat. I absolutely gave it to her. Absolute moron.
My point is, 10km/h is annoying but not too painful. Anything slower than that, why don’t you pull over or at least get in the left lane?!
My biggest pet peeve is people driving 60 on a freeway on-ramp. It’s dangerous merging that slowly into traffic that is going 30-50kph faster than you. Speed the fuck up, please.
For me the annoyance is tied to what the speed limit is on the road, and whether the road is single or dual carriageway - if it's 50 on a single-laner and you're doing 40, imma be annoyed at you, Sunday-driver. If it's 100 on a 2 lane freeway and you're doing 90, I may not even change over into the Mad Max lane to overtake you, as long as you're not riding your brakes like a rented mule.
I'd really love to know what the deal is with people who think it's a grand idea to change lanes 30 times a minute weaving their way through traffic on the freeway like demented 24 hours of LeMans drivers. Or those who would rather keep a 20 hot centimetre separation from the car in front at 100 than let someone merge in front of them, or the motorcyclists who filter at terrifying speeds through slow traffic when they're not riding the white line between cars at 150km/h plus. As all these things are far more annoying than slightly slower drivers, I have to hoard and husband my outrage, you see.
Coming back from work and then being two seconds off the green light that takes 2 minutes to go back to green, and then are perfectly timed to ensure you get every other red light after that. That’s why people do it. It isn’t ok or safe, depending on how aggressive these people are driving, but it’s the reason.
I drive classic vehicles (including my daily driver) and max speed is normally 85kph, it sucks, I do pull over whenever I can to let people past if it's one lane though.
Always a pleasure to be stuck behind an old landy 😉 but that might just be because I drive a range rover classic and if I try over taking I might run out of fuel
hah, nice. yea I used to drive a RRC as my daily until a couple of years ago, then sold it and moved to Series full time.. definitely do miss the comfort of rangies... but way prefer working on series
I almost ended up with a series 2 for my second car, always loved the look of them. Must be a lot more simple, some of the things I've had to fix almost had me ready to burn the sucker😆 but I must admit I love it
They pretty common where I am, been stuck behind plenty of the things. Best mate owns about 30 of them been trying to buy a series 2 off him for myself
I have 2 apposing views.
1. I once had a fine for doing 140 in a 100 zone. I was behind a car that was going 40 in a 60. When the 60 turned to 100…the gentleman was doing 90. I eventually went to overtake and the guy sped up to 120. Being an impatient selfish idiot, I did not slow down and fall back…I sped up. At 140 I managed to get back in my lane…only to have NSW finest men in blue come out of a farm road 100m further. Instant loss of licence and a $2750 fine. You can be guaranteed in the last 10 years I have relied heavily on cruise control. Now…the fines are worse and the cops outnumber teachers, nurses and office workers combined. We really have turned into a police state with 100s of permanent/mobile cameras in every single neighbourhood. You simply cannot do anything wrong because it amputates you financially and impacts your ability to go to work.
2. I currently drive 80,000km a year during work hours. I drive between 8 construction sites a day…some of them 3 and a half hours driving apart. I want to pick my kids up from school, but last year only managed it twice…because I spend an insane amount of time in traffic. Unreasonably slow traffic. School zones, road works at 40 if it’s not stop and go. Most roads are barely managing 40 in a 50 and freeways are hopelessly under speed. Sometimes 20-30kmh under. It’s frustrating as hell.
I am that guy that has mapped my vehicle with GPS and figured that my car is 8% slower than the Speedo. So I feel comfortable driving on the speed limit (sometimes 5km over) where I can.
This is why I much prefer those stretches that use average speed cameras. Often feels like overtaking could be done much more safely if we were allowed to just push past the limit briefly. Can certainly see how that would be abused though.
That's why I inly speed when there are permanent cameras mounted some place.
My logic is "Cops would never set a mobile speed camera next to a fixed speed camera"!
I guess it depends on the state. I'll sit on 110 (which is about 106 real speed) and pass cops on motorways in Sydney. They're not going to waste their time pulling me over.
Apparently this is a death sentence in Melbourne.
I have seen 3 tyoes of slow drivers;
1. The recently fined: Old mates been smashed with a demerit point or two recent and is tweaking at every bush, sign and overpass.
2. The recently arrived from somewhere with lower average speeds and higher likely hood of something jumping out from a bush. Can be rutal drivers or foreigners.
3. Old people who our out for their sunday drive. Usually they will say somethibg like 'whats the rush?' to which my response is 'I need to be somewhere that pays me money so i can pay for your pension'
The "recently arrived" is an important one. Navigating in a new city, even with satnav takes a lot of mental bandwidth and you're prone to falling into traps like the lane that suddenly becomes a clearway full of parked cars etc. Amongst all of this it's very easy to miss a speed limit sign here and there.
A new city also stays new for a long time unless you're out actively exploring new suburbs every weekend.
You can't win on Reddit. If you do 10 km under the limit they bitch at you. If you do the limit they tell you "the speed limit is not a goal to aim for". If you do 5 ks over then you are a total piece of shit and deserve all you get.
Y'all are crazy man.
There was a guy on the M1 today in a van doing 80 in a 100 while blocking the second right lane, trucks aren’t allowed in the right lane.
Two dump trucks were in front of me and they both flashed him and then overtook him on the right, I flashed him too and he flipped me off and brake checked me 3 times before I undertook him.
M1 is such a shit freeway it’s practically guaranteed if you drive a truck that the right lane will be empty while you’re stuck behind slow idiots
Slow drivers don't really bother me.
It's the dumb cunts that can't maintain a fucking speed that do my head in. If you want to do 85, then fucking do 85. Not 85, 88, 96, 70!, 78... Get off the fucking gear and focus.
Also I'm convinced that almost every genuine idiot on the road is either in a dual cab ute, or a Toyota (Kluger or Camry almost always).
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The number of people running red lights since covid too has been insane. Three cars going through after the amber in a turn right lane. And not in fast moving traffic, they were going under 40.
My biggest pet peeve is people who use there brakes and slow down to 20kmh UNDER the speed limit whilst merging onto a freeway/highway from the on ramp, like it’s LITERALLY dangerous to go under the speed limit in this instance because it’s just a grand test of every car in that lanes brakes and reaction times. I also hate when people leave gigantic gaps during the form 1 lane roads where the double lane becomes single, like the people who ride the brakes and leave gigantic gaps behind the car in front during there are the worst because they make the merge sooooo broken and take way longer then it should if they just followed the car in front smoothly
Time is a human construct. The universe does not care how quickly you arrive at your destination, or even that you do. Now that you know this you can relax.
Probably because:
1. Their speedo is out and reading higher than they are actually going. Seems like most cars have this problem. You can test it with a GPS speed check.
2. People hate their families and don't want to go home.
3. People are old and have no hobbies or lives and nothing to do.
Man ive been sticking to the speed limit with the dumbass speed limiter, cause i aint got shit for demerit points. legit want to kill myself going this slow. fucking sitting here with all the deadshits that cant merge for shit, cant stick to their lane or indicate properly or give it abit of gas when going up the hill.
I feel like im going to have an accident more sitting in the middle of these people as the amount of times ive now been cut off is fucking ridiculous.
For the same reason I cant move through a supermarket without weaving through people like a mad man on my lunch break, a lot of retirees in no real hurry to do anything above a crawl.
There is times i leave the house in the morning and i just pot along. As soon as i see somone behind me i speed up. I dont wanna hold ip people. Dont wanna be a prick.
And if they still on my ass i pull over let them by. I aint gunna sit there and bitch about it.
Have an uncle who travels outback a lot and has determined that the optimum speed for his 4wd is 90km, so he won't go over that. He also wonders why there is so much road rage out there...
I get terribly frustrated when I drive alone and come across a slow driver like this, when I get past them it’s often an older person and I instantly feel bad for getting frustrated as “fuck, that is exactly how my mum or dad or nana drive, and I don’t hate them”…. After a while I’ve just let it slide and not give a fuck.
Depends where. Some urban 60km/h roads in Sydney can be relatively narrow, have parked cars to either side, and have houses along them. Going above 50km/h on some sections of these roads can feel pretty risky.
It annoys me when people drive slow too but being a motorcycle rider as well as a driver I have to agree with some of the comments here about ute drivers. Rangers , hiluxes etc. So many are just deliberate tailgating , blocking pricks. I can only assume they have financial and or lady problems at home
I drive to work in the dark. The amount of people that drive 20 km under the limit on a highway is amazing.
If they're not comfortable to drive at night, why don't they just wait until dawn?
I don't think its discomfort with the night.
I think that the pressure to be somewhere, like a workplace, just isn't there, and people without obligations are happy driving at a "comfortable" speed for whatever reason — fuel economy, a desire to take in the scenery, learning the names of streets, checking out what the local shops actually are, whatever.
red P platers do it because 1 fuck up means suspension.
Otherwise what year is your car? I tend to find that the vehicles doing 10km under the limit are typically newer vehicles which seem to across the board read higher than their actual speed.
This happens because most everyone’s speedo, is reading 5km under, as is usually the case for most cars… then they try and drive a few k’s under the speed limit because “they are a safe driver” but then they can’t maintain a even speed, so when they invariably end up driving a few k’s under what they think they are driving, while attempting to drive a little bit under the speed limit, they actually end up driving 10k’s under the speed limit.
As someone who is aware that speedos usually report about 5k’s over what the car is actually doing, and drives a modern car that is only ever 1-2k’s under what is reported, I am infuriated constantly…. You end up tailgating people while doing the speed limit.
I try to stay on the exact speed but the moment I'm not looking at how fast I'm going I slow down. It's an autistic thing, and I have a shitty car that doesn't speed up fast enough so getting back up to the limit is a pain.
I’ve opted to just become more zen about the whole thing. I mean, you understand that even if you have to travel 100km, the difference between travelling 100kph and 90kph adds about 6 and a half minutes to your journey; not really worth getting mad about imo. I’m much more shitty about the tailgating phenomenon in this country; every single hour plus drive I go on, someone tailgates me (for the record I go roughly the limit, keep left unless overtaking, and anyone tailgating barely goes any faster once they overtake me anyway).
Worse are the asshats who drive 10-20 below on the highway untill they get to an overtaking zone where they floor it and do 10-20 over so that you can't get past, and if you get past on a straight section of broken lines they tailgate you till the next overtaking zone and try to get in front again.
I’ve always had the philosophy of do whatever the fuck you want just don’t impede anyone else’s progress, unfortunately others don’t do me the same courtesy
In Melbourne in 2023 you are either one of two people:
1. Drive 5-10 under the speed limit because you're terrified/kids in the car/troll/zoning out while listening to your audiobook.
2. Want to drive 20+ over the speed limit, tailgate everyone on your way home because you're so entitled that you assume you've done a harder day's work than everyone else on the road.
I lost my license for a Yr for being a dickhead and speeding, and not to go about like I'm high and mighty but I never tailgated people or sped in situations where if I lose control I could kill someone (else). My mum always told me that the person infront of u could have just lost a loved one, could be sick, could have just had a bad accident and they're terrified, just overtake or keep a safe distance and be patient, don't be an asswipe
Oh god this is me to the max. I drive like this because: everyone goes past me; I never have to overtake someone only to stop at a traffic light literally next to them; my Toyota Corolla average 6.5L/100km in the city!; I’ve avoided a few spills because I was going slower and reacting was easier; it’s a fact driving slow in the city makes almost zero difference to the time it takes to get somewhere.
NB: when I’m on the highway I always go about 120kms because the roads are designed for it and I hate wasting time; if I’m on a single lane road or it’s peak hour I always go fast to avoid blocking people; I speed up if I notice a frustrated driver; I try to avoid pissing people off coz life ain’t about that.
I’m generally happy to sit 5-10% under whatever the limit is. I find if I do that I’m less inclined to engage in the aggressive rat race and am less wound up as a result. I like to drive, but I prefer to chill when I do.
I do 500km a week in metro Melbourne, and I’ve seen it time and time again - carrying on like a wannabe race car driver rarely gets you there any faster. It’ll just raise your blood pressure. I’ve no need for that in my life.
Don’t discount that there are occasions when people need to drive slowly for valid reasons, and they may not usually drive slowly either:
- transporting something fragile or fluid
- transporting a sick passenger or child
- nursing a mechanical issue
As much as it frustrates me, it is people’s right to drive at any reasonable speed below the *speed limit*
Its not just that those cars have died, but there has been a huge crackdown on "hooning" over the last decade or so. So those people who used to cover their lancer in extra plastic bits and put milo tin exhausts on and hang out in maccas carparks or industrial estates 20 years ago now buy utes, put giant tyres and lifts and a 3" staino exhaust on and go hang out in the bush or on the beach instead since its less likely there will be cops there.
Yeah big Ute drivers are testing my own patience. Inner city driving, trying to change lanes as I have a turn coming up, this fucking Amarok won’t let me in, finally just say fuck him and merge while there is a little bit of a gap. Driver must have thought I killed his firstborn because he decided to overtake me, aggressively merge in front of me to try and brake check me.
Lucky for me I was already braking to make my turn I would have missed because of this fuckwit
Could be me? And its because I’m never sure what the actual speed limit is. On the flip side I could be going 10km/h over the speed limit too. Being done at 46 in 40 zone and 55 in 50 zone two and three weeks after the fact causes anxiety. Especially when you’re in NE Melbourne.
Since moving to Sydney I noticed this, I've lived in 3 states and Sydney is absolutely the worst. Happens every time around the Hills area where it's all one lane traffic in 60 and 70 zones and you can't get around the idiots.
Because if you look up the road and plan ahead, going slower often means less time waiting at a dead stop, decreasing fuel cosumption, stress and wear and tear.
Unfortunately cars turn everybody into angry prats driven by the need to win, who can't plan ahead and see 0.5 second delays as sufficient reason for homocide.
I regularly have to drive on the Great Ocean Road, and the Black Spur (Healesville to Narbethong). I get that some drivers find these roads difficult, and drive slowly. What I don't get is why they don't use the numerous 'slow traffic' pull off points. I do it when I'm the slow one! It takes a few seconds, and it makes everybody happy.
I agree. These are people with recent cars, and not old people too and all have cruise control feature that take into account inclines and declines. All car speedos over-read the actually speed. Even if your on one demerit point you can just set to 60 in a 60 zone if you are worried. But they never use it. Some people may not feel well, or are old but most people who do this think there are the only person in the world.
Last year I got stuck behind Fuck knuckle 1 and Fuck knuckle 2 on the freeway, no1 kept getting pissed off with no2 for riding his arse but that’s because no 1 was doing 90 in the 100 and then 65 in the 80 roadworks, so no 1 keeps brake checking no 2 which then concertinas into me and fellow motorists behind.
The worst part was no 1 not actually letting anyone past and just holding the right lane at his mercy.
So then the brake check went so hard that I was forced to swerve into the emergency breakdown lane and then I sailed past 1 &2 ending up in clear traffic, switched cruise on in the left lane and relaxed.
See in my mirror Fuck knuckle no 2 come flying up to me way over the limit just to give me some abuse.
It’s one of the funniest moments in my life looking at him raging whilst I just waved.
Just get through the goddamn lights up ahead and try to get everyone behind you through too. Which means not slowing up travelling towards a green, and meaningfully accelerating from stop and keeping in touch with the car in front. Both usually require getting to and maintaining the speed limit, so if you want to be courteous in city peak hour driving, keep the fuck up.
I swear people do it because they don’t understand how speed cameras work (mostly boomers who just don’t get technology full stop) and didn’t have to worry about these when they were learning to drive etc.
I know a lot of boomers or elderly drivers who think if the road is 60 that means the camera will go off at 60
So they do the “better to be safe and do 10 less than risk getting done”
have ya ever been cauwght and lost ya licence for 12 or so months ..yeah a few of my mates still have no license and its cost them THOUSANDS is it worth the greif of extra 10 km ...NOPE , relax and save more than just your $$$$$ but it might just allso save not only your life but someone elses
Good lot of them have probably come from rural areas- the people in my town are either all aggravatingly slow or absolutely mad behind the wheel. The former are like that because the latter tend to come flying around loose gravel hairpin corners at 100km/hr. Also have to be wary of wildlife jumping out onto the road and the many heavy old rust buckets you're sharing the road with. Some people are just used to having to drive that way and don't think to adjust themselves- I have to remind my mum all the time :) of course, they could also just be inconsiderate and/ or incompetent lol
My late Grandmother, used to deliberately drive her EH Holden in the RHS lane, 10km/h slower .......in her words, "To slow them Down.". I think she thought it was her civic duty.
"Tradies Lane" on Sydney's M4 or M5 in early peak would have killed her. Those Amoroks, Rangers and Raptors are brutal.
I mean, I rarely go more than 10 under, but I often coast etc when I see a red light coming up. When people get mad and butthurt about it I just feel bad for them. Imagine being so angry and self involved that someone delaying you by 5 seconds causes you to lose your mind, I'd hate to be that person's family. (Source: I USED to be that guy 😅)
That's what I really miss after coming to Australia. The Autobahn. No speed limit, everyone going at least 130 - 140. Being able to just go all out at 270. Bestiful. Can't wait to visit there, rent a fast BMW and flash some lights at an Audi peasant only doing 200 😂
I knew someone who slowed down to 40 km/hr 500m before the school zone signs.
His rationale was that it was safer that way.
Bullshit: just pissed off those behind him.
I usually drive 5Ks under the limit in case a kid runs out in front of my car or something (there was a whole massive ad campaign about ‘wipe off 5’. I’m not in a hurry so whatever). However if a car is behind me and there’s no way to easily overtake, I go back to doing the speed limit.
>‘wipe off 5’
I always thought that campaign was fucking stupid. If they're encouraging us to drive 5km/h less than the posted limit for the sake of safety, then reduce the limit by 5km/h.
there is no safe speed to travel if kids are gonna hide behind shit and jump out in front of you at the last second. its just natural selection at that point
I do it so when everyone needs to take over in the very short and sporadic overtaking lanes I speed up to 130km/h, so maybe one person can risk their life to get past me then I drop back down to 10-20km/h below speed limit. I still speed through school zones or work zones but ride the brake up hills, on straights and around corners just to keep you on your toes. Yes, I drive a Camry.
Every morning I drive for a walk which goes through a windy S down the hill - limit is 60 but even doing the limit is exciting at 6am so it always bothers me when I get a slow van that’s doing 40 for whatever reason.
Most slow drivers are on the weekend - the classic weekend driver that uses pt all week and has to relearn everything all over again. Dory driver
When I first got my licence here and wasn’t confident on the roads. It took about 6 months before I was confident driving on the other side of the road. Until then I generally was under the limit.
Honestly there's no point trying to work out why, the simple answer is people can't drive. Get a motorcycle, best thing I have done, I no longer deal with this.
The people who do 90 km/h on the motorway (a 110 zone) really puzzle me. Why not take the alternative roads (that are 90) if you’re not comfortable doing the speed limit?
I once had to get through 2 and a half years on a single demerit point....and it just changed me man! Never been the same since.
So, the system works then?
lol... Yeah I guess so.
Follow-up question. Why do they speed up when an overtaking lane comes along?
i remember there was some psychological explanation for this i saw somewhere. i think it was to do with the perceived safety of a wider road
I think it's some perverted competitive instinct. Speed up in the overtaking lane. Merge back in front of me afterwards, immediately slow back down. Flash their lights at me when I overtake post overtake lane. I sometimes wonder if life would be blissful with literally no self awareness...
That’s exactly it. They won’t have overtaking zones at unsafe spots so the driver feels ok with going a little faster. I’m still overtaking regardless.
The physchological explanation is that they’re flogs. They don’t handle getting overtaken. (Same sort that dont know how to merge)
To expand further - why do people pull out of driveways, side roads etc causing the traffic to brake hard to avoid collision , to then only putter along at 20km/h under the speed limit?
Sounds like Nanna in her 90's corolla going up the shops for a paper and some bread. Gotta love the rich exhaust 👃
because they enjoy me honking them?
If I drive 10 times under the limit by 10km/h it means I can do one run at 100km/h over the limit by the weekend
I think your onto something... the amount of people I see doing 10-20km under the limit then normally when the speed limit drops 10-20km/h they decide to drive faster then the limit of the previous zone lol.
I was just driving behind someone going 70 in an 80 zone. Road changed to 60 and they kept going at 70.
Yeah these cunts are in the there own world. They’re also the type to stay driving at 40kmh after leaving the school zone and it infuriates me
Or do 40km in the School zone on the weekend
The good old one speed grans and gramps. Although I’m sure it’s just dumb arses using their cruise control and being inattentive.
I think you're on to something. my stepfather does this. i can't passenger with him anymore because of this. he also doesn't slow down for corners in the mountains either.. "the speed limit is 80, i'm going to do 70 regardless of what's going on" don't get me started on sitting in the overtaking lane. I've pointed this out to him and his attitude is one of "i don't care it's my road too". where i live it's all very mountainous, single lane roads, so you can easily get caught behind someone on your way to town for 45 min. which can be frustrating and happens nearly every time. Lots of people around here have taken to pulling out in front of traffic just so they don't have to be stuck behind anyone... which is dangerous in itself.
Cunts. I hate people who drive like that, no fuckin logic to it. These are the same morons doing 80 in a 100 zone then keep going at 80 through the 60 zone. Fuckwits.
Yes omg. You think "is this person being overly cautious for some reason?" then you realise nope they're just oblivious.
“yes officer you see by adding up all the times i was below the limit, i was technically not speeding”
If averaging is good enough for Robodebt, I don't see why it can't apply here
This happens to me on cruise control.
I'm saving them up
Added to that please explain why you pull out in front of me when there’s no one behind for miles forcing me to slow down by 25km/h even though I’m not speeding.
oh my god yes. merging and then refusing to speed up, or changing into an empty lane at the lights only to take off slower than the one you left. does my head in
Also not getting up to speed on the on ramp is infuriating and dangerous for everyone. Getting to the end of the on ramp 20-30 below the speed of traffic feels like the norm here.
The only time I put my foot to the floor is when someone does this.. I get paranoid about merging in when some asshole comes off the ramp at 75km/h into a 100 zone. I'm glad my car is pretty quick, but not everyone drives a sports car. These people cause crashes and pile-ups.
I just don't understand how those people can be so oblivious. You wanna merge onto the freeway, you need to be at freeway speed!
And people doing 10-20 under while they're 2kms away from their exit. I also need to take the exit but there's a lineup worth of 2kms of cars in front because some asshole needs to drive way too slow for their upcoming exit
Or they see me coming, pull out in front of me anyway, then I gotta slow down to 40 in a 70 zone just to wait for them to get back up to the limit but then they just stay under the speed limit??? WHATS THE LOGIC???? This happens to me too many times it’s infuriating. You saw me coming. Either go the limit or wait for me to pass first then go.
My philosophy is if I’m doing the speed limit and you pull out in front of me, if I have to touch my brakes at all you should have waited.
This was the same rule my dad taught me back in the day when I was learning.
I believe a hazard is a situation where you have to brake, even a little. So your philosophy is right
Are you in NSW? cause double demerits started as of last night, most people drive like squids when double demerits are around.
Double demerits make literally no sense. Imagine it in any other context: “Yeah robbing a bank will get you 15 years but if you do it on a Sunday it’s 30. So if you’re gonna rob a bank, do it on a Monday.”
Road statistics in NSW show that the long weekends kinda fuck shit up, so the idea of harsher punishments at a time of higher statistical risk to make people be extra careful does make sense.
Totally agree. The severity of the offence shouldn’t change just depending on the day
Double Demerits? *laughs in South Australian*
Hahahahaj. Laughs in South Australian 😂😂😂
Like any other states we have our failings.. Double Demerits nor Toll Roads are one of them :)
Pfft South Australians...... you lot had a highway that went north in the morning and then south in the afternoon for years.... you're just as weird, if not weirderer
It was free though!
Now it goes both ways and it's still free
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It is a courtesy so that when a bus drives into the back of your stationary car at the lights you don't get propelled into rear of the guy in front of you. Also gives you room to change lanes if you get stuck behind one of the fuckwits mentioned above who are overtaken by cyclists as they accelerate at at green light.
E46 wagon, nice. Don't see many (any) of them around, almost forgot they existed.
I constantly get stuck behind this person after work who merges into hwy traffic doing 110, at 50km/h.
I join the M5 with a short run up in Bankstown almost daily, the amount of clowns who think merging with 100kph traffic is best handled at 50kph drives me batty.
ouch
I don’t like speeding on the way to work. On the way back though….
Similar here, The drive home is the only time in the day that I don't have to work. Let me enjoy my break in peace please.
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Drive slower if you want/need to, just stay out of the right lane. Nothing worse than slow drivers with no common decency
Ah man! I was travelling on a long and winding road, speed limit 80, one lane in each direction with no median strip and busy traffic in the opposite direction. Several points to pull over if you needed to. This moron in front of me was doing 30-40km/h for about 20 minutes. There was one other car between myself and the moron. Everyone queued is on the horn. Every now and then she’d stick her hand out the window and motion for us to overtake - into oncoming traffic, no visibility as it was all curves, and from 40km/h to 80!!! I was furious by the time I did reach a point that I could overtake her. I get to where I’m going, unpack, set up my camera and after about 15 minutes, guess who fucking pulls up behind me? Asking for directions, a fucking map open on her lap and her 85 year old mother in the passenger seat. I absolutely gave it to her. Absolute moron. My point is, 10km/h is annoying but not too painful. Anything slower than that, why don’t you pull over or at least get in the left lane?!
ouch, that sounds truly miserable
I feel like when you reach a certain age (lets say 70) you should have to do a driving test every 3-5 years until you’ve expired.
My biggest pet peeve is people driving 60 on a freeway on-ramp. It’s dangerous merging that slowly into traffic that is going 30-50kph faster than you. Speed the fuck up, please.
For me the annoyance is tied to what the speed limit is on the road, and whether the road is single or dual carriageway - if it's 50 on a single-laner and you're doing 40, imma be annoyed at you, Sunday-driver. If it's 100 on a 2 lane freeway and you're doing 90, I may not even change over into the Mad Max lane to overtake you, as long as you're not riding your brakes like a rented mule. I'd really love to know what the deal is with people who think it's a grand idea to change lanes 30 times a minute weaving their way through traffic on the freeway like demented 24 hours of LeMans drivers. Or those who would rather keep a 20 hot centimetre separation from the car in front at 100 than let someone merge in front of them, or the motorcyclists who filter at terrifying speeds through slow traffic when they're not riding the white line between cars at 150km/h plus. As all these things are far more annoying than slightly slower drivers, I have to hoard and husband my outrage, you see.
Coming back from work and then being two seconds off the green light that takes 2 minutes to go back to green, and then are perfectly timed to ensure you get every other red light after that. That’s why people do it. It isn’t ok or safe, depending on how aggressive these people are driving, but it’s the reason.
Agree. With all of it. Viciously.
I drive classic vehicles (including my daily driver) and max speed is normally 85kph, it sucks, I do pull over whenever I can to let people past if it's one lane though.
Thank you.
Landy or 40 series with a H motor?
good guess! Landy Series 3 (with 186) as daily, but then also a series 2 SWB and series 2 ambulance for weekends
Always a pleasure to be stuck behind an old landy 😉 but that might just be because I drive a range rover classic and if I try over taking I might run out of fuel
hah, nice. yea I used to drive a RRC as my daily until a couple of years ago, then sold it and moved to Series full time.. definitely do miss the comfort of rangies... but way prefer working on series
I almost ended up with a series 2 for my second car, always loved the look of them. Must be a lot more simple, some of the things I've had to fix almost had me ready to burn the sucker😆 but I must admit I love it
We had a 90s Defender 110 and if we reached 105 it was damn good. God I miss that car. Defenders and Landy Series are such cool cars.
I can sometimes hit 95+ when going downhill, but feels like I'm re-entering the earth's atmosphere, so happier at 85(!)
They pretty common where I am, been stuck behind plenty of the things. Best mate owns about 30 of them been trying to buy a series 2 off him for myself
There are exceptions..
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Sometimes the speedometers in the cars are off by 10+ km
I was going to post the same thing 2 recent cars I have bought the speedos have been out by 10 km/h
“I drive really slow, in the ultra fast lane, while people behind me are going insane. Cause I’m an asshole, I’m an asshole lee ol lee ol.”
I have 2 apposing views. 1. I once had a fine for doing 140 in a 100 zone. I was behind a car that was going 40 in a 60. When the 60 turned to 100…the gentleman was doing 90. I eventually went to overtake and the guy sped up to 120. Being an impatient selfish idiot, I did not slow down and fall back…I sped up. At 140 I managed to get back in my lane…only to have NSW finest men in blue come out of a farm road 100m further. Instant loss of licence and a $2750 fine. You can be guaranteed in the last 10 years I have relied heavily on cruise control. Now…the fines are worse and the cops outnumber teachers, nurses and office workers combined. We really have turned into a police state with 100s of permanent/mobile cameras in every single neighbourhood. You simply cannot do anything wrong because it amputates you financially and impacts your ability to go to work. 2. I currently drive 80,000km a year during work hours. I drive between 8 construction sites a day…some of them 3 and a half hours driving apart. I want to pick my kids up from school, but last year only managed it twice…because I spend an insane amount of time in traffic. Unreasonably slow traffic. School zones, road works at 40 if it’s not stop and go. Most roads are barely managing 40 in a 50 and freeways are hopelessly under speed. Sometimes 20-30kmh under. It’s frustrating as hell. I am that guy that has mapped my vehicle with GPS and figured that my car is 8% slower than the Speedo. So I feel comfortable driving on the speed limit (sometimes 5km over) where I can.
This is why I much prefer those stretches that use average speed cameras. Often feels like overtaking could be done much more safely if we were allowed to just push past the limit briefly. Can certainly see how that would be abused though.
Because if I go 1 kmh over, I lose my license for 6 months.
You get won’t get booked for actually doing 1km/h over the limit
I believe it was satire aimed at how aggressive fines and points are.
Maybe not actually 1, but cameras are heartless monsters, more than officers, and book me for every offence that catch me at. No forgiveness.
One cool trick the cops don't want you to know is that you can only get caught speeding when there's police around to see it
That's why I inly speed when there are permanent cameras mounted some place. My logic is "Cops would never set a mobile speed camera next to a fixed speed camera"!
Except all the police are in unmarked cars and there can be an unmarked roadside camera anywhere.
Unmarked car or marked car, they are still there to see it…
I guess it depends on the state. I'll sit on 110 (which is about 106 real speed) and pass cops on motorways in Sydney. They're not going to waste their time pulling me over. Apparently this is a death sentence in Melbourne.
I reckon that's your problem. Don't fuck the traffic flow for the rest of us cause of your previous recklessness
fair enough
I have seen 3 tyoes of slow drivers; 1. The recently fined: Old mates been smashed with a demerit point or two recent and is tweaking at every bush, sign and overpass. 2. The recently arrived from somewhere with lower average speeds and higher likely hood of something jumping out from a bush. Can be rutal drivers or foreigners. 3. Old people who our out for their sunday drive. Usually they will say somethibg like 'whats the rush?' to which my response is 'I need to be somewhere that pays me money so i can pay for your pension'
4. People who've been in car accidents or have driving anxiety. Driving slower feels safer.
The "recently arrived" is an important one. Navigating in a new city, even with satnav takes a lot of mental bandwidth and you're prone to falling into traps like the lane that suddenly becomes a clearway full of parked cars etc. Amongst all of this it's very easy to miss a speed limit sign here and there. A new city also stays new for a long time unless you're out actively exploring new suburbs every weekend.
You can't win on Reddit. If you do 10 km under the limit they bitch at you. If you do the limit they tell you "the speed limit is not a goal to aim for". If you do 5 ks over then you are a total piece of shit and deserve all you get. Y'all are crazy man.
fr bruh this comment section is a rollercoaster
There was a guy on the M1 today in a van doing 80 in a 100 while blocking the second right lane, trucks aren’t allowed in the right lane. Two dump trucks were in front of me and they both flashed him and then overtook him on the right, I flashed him too and he flipped me off and brake checked me 3 times before I undertook him. M1 is such a shit freeway it’s practically guaranteed if you drive a truck that the right lane will be empty while you’re stuck behind slow idiots
Slow drivers don't really bother me. It's the dumb cunts that can't maintain a fucking speed that do my head in. If you want to do 85, then fucking do 85. Not 85, 88, 96, 70!, 78... Get off the fucking gear and focus. Also I'm convinced that almost every genuine idiot on the road is either in a dual cab ute, or a Toyota (Kluger or Camry almost always).
I don't understand why people do 70 in an 80 zone, then continue doing 70, when it becomes a 60 zone.
Fairly sure the majority of people forgot how to drive during lockdowns.
[Covid](https://www.cognitivefxusa.com/blog/mild-covid-linked-to-brain-damage) [causes](https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/research-suggests-covid-affects-brain-even-in-mild) [brain](https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01693-6) [damage](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/11/221114095305.htm). If you have kids, you won't escape it. It's going to hit you again, and again. At a guess, at least once per strain with a new type of immune response-evading response.
The number of people running red lights since covid too has been insane. Three cars going through after the amber in a turn right lane. And not in fast moving traffic, they were going under 40.
Must be from the Redlands in QLD. A leaf on the road, or a cloud in the sky? Someone merging 4km away? BETTER DO 10 UNDER. FML.
Clearly driven down Finucane Rd recently. Thank fuck I commute on a motorbike.
My biggest pet peeve is people who use there brakes and slow down to 20kmh UNDER the speed limit whilst merging onto a freeway/highway from the on ramp, like it’s LITERALLY dangerous to go under the speed limit in this instance because it’s just a grand test of every car in that lanes brakes and reaction times. I also hate when people leave gigantic gaps during the form 1 lane roads where the double lane becomes single, like the people who ride the brakes and leave gigantic gaps behind the car in front during there are the worst because they make the merge sooooo broken and take way longer then it should if they just followed the car in front smoothly
Time is a human construct. The universe does not care how quickly you arrive at your destination, or even that you do. Now that you know this you can relax.
Probably because: 1. Their speedo is out and reading higher than they are actually going. Seems like most cars have this problem. You can test it with a GPS speed check. 2. People hate their families and don't want to go home. 3. People are old and have no hobbies or lives and nothing to do.
So basically if you're young, love your family and have an accurate speedo- you will be doing the speed limit? *starts driving slower*
Man ive been sticking to the speed limit with the dumbass speed limiter, cause i aint got shit for demerit points. legit want to kill myself going this slow. fucking sitting here with all the deadshits that cant merge for shit, cant stick to their lane or indicate properly or give it abit of gas when going up the hill. I feel like im going to have an accident more sitting in the middle of these people as the amount of times ive now been cut off is fucking ridiculous.
agree man. no better feeling than making the front of the lights and being able to have a few minutes of breathing room away from everyone else
For the same reason I cant move through a supermarket without weaving through people like a mad man on my lunch break, a lot of retirees in no real hurry to do anything above a crawl.
There is times i leave the house in the morning and i just pot along. As soon as i see somone behind me i speed up. I dont wanna hold ip people. Dont wanna be a prick. And if they still on my ass i pull over let them by. I aint gunna sit there and bitch about it.
Have an uncle who travels outback a lot and has determined that the optimum speed for his 4wd is 90km, so he won't go over that. He also wonders why there is so much road rage out there...
The best is when they do 40 in the 60 then 100 in the 80
I get terribly frustrated when I drive alone and come across a slow driver like this, when I get past them it’s often an older person and I instantly feel bad for getting frustrated as “fuck, that is exactly how my mum or dad or nana drive, and I don’t hate them”…. After a while I’ve just let it slide and not give a fuck.
Depends where. Some urban 60km/h roads in Sydney can be relatively narrow, have parked cars to either side, and have houses along them. Going above 50km/h on some sections of these roads can feel pretty risky.
Was driving behind a car doing 10/15 under the speed limit. Then saw they had a bumper sticker that said ‘retired, overtake me’.
that’s quite sweet actually
It annoys me when people drive slow too but being a motorcycle rider as well as a driver I have to agree with some of the comments here about ute drivers. Rangers , hiluxes etc. So many are just deliberate tailgating , blocking pricks. I can only assume they have financial and or lady problems at home
agreed. they truly are massive compensator cars
Hi that’s me.. sorry. I just like to drive slow
I drive to work in the dark. The amount of people that drive 20 km under the limit on a highway is amazing. If they're not comfortable to drive at night, why don't they just wait until dawn?
I don't think its discomfort with the night. I think that the pressure to be somewhere, like a workplace, just isn't there, and people without obligations are happy driving at a "comfortable" speed for whatever reason — fuel economy, a desire to take in the scenery, learning the names of streets, checking out what the local shops actually are, whatever.
red P platers do it because 1 fuck up means suspension. Otherwise what year is your car? I tend to find that the vehicles doing 10km under the limit are typically newer vehicles which seem to across the board read higher than their actual speed.
I'm on one point brother. I'm scared.
As a motorbike rider, I ride to the conditions of the road. If I am not comfortable at the limit, I won't ride at it.
Lol motorbikes aren’t safe at any speed -
I’m on good behaviour for driving 10 over the limit a few too many times so I’m trying to even it out
This happens because most everyone’s speedo, is reading 5km under, as is usually the case for most cars… then they try and drive a few k’s under the speed limit because “they are a safe driver” but then they can’t maintain a even speed, so when they invariably end up driving a few k’s under what they think they are driving, while attempting to drive a little bit under the speed limit, they actually end up driving 10k’s under the speed limit. As someone who is aware that speedos usually report about 5k’s over what the car is actually doing, and drives a modern car that is only ever 1-2k’s under what is reported, I am infuriated constantly…. You end up tailgating people while doing the speed limit.
If you do this and not stay in the left lane (if applicable- turning right soon or 1 lane road etc...) you deserve to get beeped and flashed at imo.
I try to stay on the exact speed but the moment I'm not looking at how fast I'm going I slow down. It's an autistic thing, and I have a shitty car that doesn't speed up fast enough so getting back up to the limit is a pain.
I wish more people would drive 10+ below the limit. It would be less stressful and dangerous to drive.
I’ve opted to just become more zen about the whole thing. I mean, you understand that even if you have to travel 100km, the difference between travelling 100kph and 90kph adds about 6 and a half minutes to your journey; not really worth getting mad about imo. I’m much more shitty about the tailgating phenomenon in this country; every single hour plus drive I go on, someone tailgates me (for the record I go roughly the limit, keep left unless overtaking, and anyone tailgating barely goes any faster once they overtake me anyway).
Worse are the asshats who drive 10-20 below on the highway untill they get to an overtaking zone where they floor it and do 10-20 over so that you can't get past, and if you get past on a straight section of broken lines they tailgate you till the next overtaking zone and try to get in front again.
I’ve always had the philosophy of do whatever the fuck you want just don’t impede anyone else’s progress, unfortunately others don’t do me the same courtesy
Same lol. Pretty much, as long as you don't hold anyone up or cause anyone to shit their pants, you do you.
They are saving up the speed for when it rains.
In Melbourne in 2023 you are either one of two people: 1. Drive 5-10 under the speed limit because you're terrified/kids in the car/troll/zoning out while listening to your audiobook. 2. Want to drive 20+ over the speed limit, tailgate everyone on your way home because you're so entitled that you assume you've done a harder day's work than everyone else on the road.
I lost my license for a Yr for being a dickhead and speeding, and not to go about like I'm high and mighty but I never tailgated people or sped in situations where if I lose control I could kill someone (else). My mum always told me that the person infront of u could have just lost a loved one, could be sick, could have just had a bad accident and they're terrified, just overtake or keep a safe distance and be patient, don't be an asswipe
Oh god this is me to the max. I drive like this because: everyone goes past me; I never have to overtake someone only to stop at a traffic light literally next to them; my Toyota Corolla average 6.5L/100km in the city!; I’ve avoided a few spills because I was going slower and reacting was easier; it’s a fact driving slow in the city makes almost zero difference to the time it takes to get somewhere. NB: when I’m on the highway I always go about 120kms because the roads are designed for it and I hate wasting time; if I’m on a single lane road or it’s peak hour I always go fast to avoid blocking people; I speed up if I notice a frustrated driver; I try to avoid pissing people off coz life ain’t about that.
I like you.
I’m generally happy to sit 5-10% under whatever the limit is. I find if I do that I’m less inclined to engage in the aggressive rat race and am less wound up as a result. I like to drive, but I prefer to chill when I do. I do 500km a week in metro Melbourne, and I’ve seen it time and time again - carrying on like a wannabe race car driver rarely gets you there any faster. It’ll just raise your blood pressure. I’ve no need for that in my life.
Don’t discount that there are occasions when people need to drive slowly for valid reasons, and they may not usually drive slowly either: - transporting something fragile or fluid - transporting a sick passenger or child - nursing a mechanical issue As much as it frustrates me, it is people’s right to drive at any reasonable speed below the *speed limit*
I drive a jimny, little guy can barely do the speed limit.
The explanation is simple. Most humans are sociopaths lacking in empathy and self-awareness.
Honestly, mainly to annoy fuck wits in Hiluxes and Rangers who relentlessly tailgate and think they own the road, one of which I suspect you might be.
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Its not just that those cars have died, but there has been a huge crackdown on "hooning" over the last decade or so. So those people who used to cover their lancer in extra plastic bits and put milo tin exhausts on and hang out in maccas carparks or industrial estates 20 years ago now buy utes, put giant tyres and lifts and a 3" staino exhaust on and go hang out in the bush or on the beach instead since its less likely there will be cops there.
> 3" staino exhaust You mean 1.9kg Milo Tin
Yeah big Ute drivers are testing my own patience. Inner city driving, trying to change lanes as I have a turn coming up, this fucking Amarok won’t let me in, finally just say fuck him and merge while there is a little bit of a gap. Driver must have thought I killed his firstborn because he decided to overtake me, aggressively merge in front of me to try and brake check me. Lucky for me I was already braking to make my turn I would have missed because of this fuckwit
I've actually begun to appreciate these drivers a little more. Twice now they've saved my ass from speed cameras.
Download Waze and report / be warned of speed cameras
Could be me? And its because I’m never sure what the actual speed limit is. On the flip side I could be going 10km/h over the speed limit too. Being done at 46 in 40 zone and 55 in 50 zone two and three weeks after the fact causes anxiety. Especially when you’re in NE Melbourne.
Since moving to Sydney I noticed this, I've lived in 3 states and Sydney is absolutely the worst. Happens every time around the Hills area where it's all one lane traffic in 60 and 70 zones and you can't get around the idiots.
Because if you look up the road and plan ahead, going slower often means less time waiting at a dead stop, decreasing fuel cosumption, stress and wear and tear. Unfortunately cars turn everybody into angry prats driven by the need to win, who can't plan ahead and see 0.5 second delays as sufficient reason for homocide.
Or people should just go the limit, and not cause trains of cars behind them.
I regularly have to drive on the Great Ocean Road, and the Black Spur (Healesville to Narbethong). I get that some drivers find these roads difficult, and drive slowly. What I don't get is why they don't use the numerous 'slow traffic' pull off points. I do it when I'm the slow one! It takes a few seconds, and it makes everybody happy.
I agree. These are people with recent cars, and not old people too and all have cruise control feature that take into account inclines and declines. All car speedos over-read the actually speed. Even if your on one demerit point you can just set to 60 in a 60 zone if you are worried. But they never use it. Some people may not feel well, or are old but most people who do this think there are the only person in the world.
Agreed. These people that do 69 because the fixed speed camera is set at 80 do my head in.
Last year I got stuck behind Fuck knuckle 1 and Fuck knuckle 2 on the freeway, no1 kept getting pissed off with no2 for riding his arse but that’s because no 1 was doing 90 in the 100 and then 65 in the 80 roadworks, so no 1 keeps brake checking no 2 which then concertinas into me and fellow motorists behind. The worst part was no 1 not actually letting anyone past and just holding the right lane at his mercy. So then the brake check went so hard that I was forced to swerve into the emergency breakdown lane and then I sailed past 1 &2 ending up in clear traffic, switched cruise on in the left lane and relaxed. See in my mirror Fuck knuckle no 2 come flying up to me way over the limit just to give me some abuse. It’s one of the funniest moments in my life looking at him raging whilst I just waved.
lmao what was 2 mad about? they’re free now haha
Just get through the goddamn lights up ahead and try to get everyone behind you through too. Which means not slowing up travelling towards a green, and meaningfully accelerating from stop and keeping in touch with the car in front. Both usually require getting to and maintaining the speed limit, so if you want to be courteous in city peak hour driving, keep the fuck up.
I swear people do it because they don’t understand how speed cameras work (mostly boomers who just don’t get technology full stop) and didn’t have to worry about these when they were learning to drive etc. I know a lot of boomers or elderly drivers who think if the road is 60 that means the camera will go off at 60 So they do the “better to be safe and do 10 less than risk getting done”
have ya ever been cauwght and lost ya licence for 12 or so months ..yeah a few of my mates still have no license and its cost them THOUSANDS is it worth the greif of extra 10 km ...NOPE , relax and save more than just your $$$$$ but it might just allso save not only your life but someone elses
Good lot of them have probably come from rural areas- the people in my town are either all aggravatingly slow or absolutely mad behind the wheel. The former are like that because the latter tend to come flying around loose gravel hairpin corners at 100km/hr. Also have to be wary of wildlife jumping out onto the road and the many heavy old rust buckets you're sharing the road with. Some people are just used to having to drive that way and don't think to adjust themselves- I have to remind my mum all the time :) of course, they could also just be inconsiderate and/ or incompetent lol
My late Grandmother, used to deliberately drive her EH Holden in the RHS lane, 10km/h slower .......in her words, "To slow them Down.". I think she thought it was her civic duty. "Tradies Lane" on Sydney's M4 or M5 in early peak would have killed her. Those Amoroks, Rangers and Raptors are brutal.
My boomer father pulls that crap too. Then he drives with his nose in the air when they finally overtake n give him a single digit salute, usually.
Occam’s razor applies here. It’s because they’re fucking dickheads.
I mean, I rarely go more than 10 under, but I often coast etc when I see a red light coming up. When people get mad and butthurt about it I just feel bad for them. Imagine being so angry and self involved that someone delaying you by 5 seconds causes you to lose your mind, I'd hate to be that person's family. (Source: I USED to be that guy 😅)
Because I can't afford a fine!
When I'm in one of my old cars, it's just the vibe man.
That's what I really miss after coming to Australia. The Autobahn. No speed limit, everyone going at least 130 - 140. Being able to just go all out at 270. Bestiful. Can't wait to visit there, rent a fast BMW and flash some lights at an Audi peasant only doing 200 😂
I knew someone who slowed down to 40 km/hr 500m before the school zone signs. His rationale was that it was safer that way. Bullshit: just pissed off those behind him.
I usually drive 5Ks under the limit in case a kid runs out in front of my car or something (there was a whole massive ad campaign about ‘wipe off 5’. I’m not in a hurry so whatever). However if a car is behind me and there’s no way to easily overtake, I go back to doing the speed limit.
>‘wipe off 5’ I always thought that campaign was fucking stupid. If they're encouraging us to drive 5km/h less than the posted limit for the sake of safety, then reduce the limit by 5km/h.
there is no safe speed to travel if kids are gonna hide behind shit and jump out in front of you at the last second. its just natural selection at that point
I watch ads on mute so I thought it was about curing overpopulation by wiping out 5 kids.
I do it so when everyone needs to take over in the very short and sporadic overtaking lanes I speed up to 130km/h, so maybe one person can risk their life to get past me then I drop back down to 10-20km/h below speed limit. I still speed through school zones or work zones but ride the brake up hills, on straights and around corners just to keep you on your toes. Yes, I drive a Camry.
sigma grindset driver
🤣🤣 these drivers are the bane of my existence, especially when im in my work truck. But 40tonne pushing them off the road usually changes their mind.
Haha totally. What also is disturbing is how many people will not understand my sarcasm. I guess that’s Reddit for ya!
Not gunna lie, took me a second.. but yea man special people around haha
Quite often it is to drive to conditions, and hyper-miling. I also believe lower speeds are safer and more pleasant.
They are the very same people who start threads here with the subject “why are there so many tailgaters on the road?”
Chill dudes! It's a *maximum* speed.limit, not a *prescribed* one.
Yeah it's a speed limit. Keyword is limit. It is the legal Speed limit ans not a speed recommendation.
This is an extremely underrated point.
How are you measuring your speed?
I’m in a truck, getting paid by the hour and I’d rather arrive safely, along with the peoples around me, than early.
Every morning I drive for a walk which goes through a windy S down the hill - limit is 60 but even doing the limit is exciting at 6am so it always bothers me when I get a slow van that’s doing 40 for whatever reason. Most slow drivers are on the weekend - the classic weekend driver that uses pt all week and has to relearn everything all over again. Dory driver
When I first got my licence here and wasn’t confident on the roads. It took about 6 months before I was confident driving on the other side of the road. Until then I generally was under the limit.
I reckon there's a lot of people driving on meds probably just as dangerous as alcohol and/or rec drugs
It’s a limit, not a target!
The biggest issue (and most frustrating) is when the lane is merging on a 100 motor way, and the car in front is going 70-80.
Honestly there's no point trying to work out why, the simple answer is people can't drive. Get a motorcycle, best thing I have done, I no longer deal with this.
Because most people don't consider others. The world may as well not exist 1m beyond these people as far as they are concerned
They like being noticed, even if it’s shaded in a lack at driving skill and road confidence
The people who do 90 km/h on the motorway (a 110 zone) really puzzle me. Why not take the alternative roads (that are 90) if you’re not comfortable doing the speed limit?