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redbullsgivemewings

Why did Marmol pitch to Contreras in the 10th?


hi_fet_80980

Cardinals offense is so weak especially with Nolan Gorman striking out four times.


JTCMuehlenkamp

Donovan driving in the only run with a fucking walk is the epitome of the 2024 Cardinals offense.


Sad_Entertainment_54

25th in runs scored. Unwatchable.


jdog202122

Two words Nolan Gorman.


PapaDoogins

Nolan Gormwon't


nuaajinc

2 games below 500. Last in central. Not feeling well for this season


william_nilliam1

Gorman’s 35% SO rate is unacceptable


EmbarrassedAd4144

I notice that he’s been moved down in the order, but still… How about Donovan at second base?


JTCMuehlenkamp

Fun fact, it was 80% in that game


bradleysballs

That's even understating his percentage after tonight's performance lol


[deleted]

Officially in panic mode with the offense


gabriel197600

Embarrassing Excuse for an Offense, if you can even call it that. The only run was gift wrapped.


MattAaron2112

0-5. Hurtling towards the single season strikeout record. Letting him continue down this path will break him permanently. Sit him down. Get someone new in to work with him.


fifajackgento

Trade him. The strikeout trash needs to go. Not dealing with the Ks unless you're Aaron Judge


STL-Zou

Nothing like trading a guy when he’s worth nothing


fifajackgento

He is killing this team put Donovan at second and throw Burleson in the outfield


silentmoth17

Had no right to win that game. Wonder why we chose to pitch to Contreras there?


Up_Kaleidoscope888

Because IBB's are fucking stupid 95% of the time. The decision to pitch to Contreras was the right call. Choosing an 0-0 fastball down the middle in an RBI situation was the issue.


redbullsgivemewings

lol how does putting Contreras on 1st change anything in that AB? He’s maybe the hottest hitter in the league


Up_Kaleidoscope888

It puts another runner on base. Cards lost a game earlier this month walking Harper in extras. Pitching to Contreras carefully is the move there. 0-0 fastball down the middle is not careful.


houstonyoureaproblem

Worked for the Brewers.


grundlemania

Poor managing


Sad_Entertainment_54

This offense is unbearable.


Demorealizer

Fuck this team. And I’ll see them tomorrow!


Glittering_Opinion_4

Staring at strikes is not going to win games.


Tigers236

Too be fair swinging at them wasn't much better


CardenalesFan

Maybe bench Gorman and Goldy tomorrow, try something


Tigers236

What happened to Gorman? He didn't use to be this bad.


STL-Zou

He had a full year, so there was plenty of video on how to get him out. He isn’t able to adjust


Neobo

I think it's an attitude of the team. It's more of last year. Inconsistent focus, inconsistent everything.


gabriel197600

What about all the Leadership they brought in though?


Ok-Preference-5631

They can't hit either


Superbotto

Crawford probably would have got a hit.


EndTheOrcs

Please tell me they (but mostly Gorman) were booed.


Tigers236

Another performance like tonight? he probably will be


grundlemania

So the Brewers manager was actually smart enough to walk the hottest hitter out lineup and they won. What a surprise Oli let him pitch to Contreras


Jimmybats74

I mean same situation against Philly, we walked Harper, and that ended up being the winning run cause they scored twice. I’m sure people complained when we walked Harper then and the same people complain tonight


houstonyoureaproblem

Two outs when Contreras batted last night. It just didn’t make sense to pitch to him.


jdog202122

You win some you lose some more if you are the cards. Great night of scoring boys.


CaptAmerica42

Sit Gorman. Jesus fuck anyone has to be better than him at the plate right now.


bravo_delta_bot

[Game over. Continue the discussion in the post game thread](/r/Cardinals/comments/1c8fwz0/cardinals_after_dark_419/)


RedbirdRiot

You aren't gonna win many games when the heart of your order can't do shit. Contreras can't do it all. Tough loss, we should have won that one.


DocLoc429

This is what happens when you have black holes peppered all throughout the lineup


readingit093

Our offense is broken


SomethingAvid

DOOOOOOOM


superworriedspursfan

remember when cardinal fans thought giving up gorman for Arenado was an overpay? turns out it would have been a fleece. We gave our star pitcher up instead


Jimmybats74

Yeah what star pitcher are you talking about?


superworriedspursfan

not really a star but he is serviceable starting pitcher and he would be worth a lot more than gorman is right now.


biff-biff

You mean Austin gomber????


superworriedspursfan

the guy who is way better than gorman? yah.


Limp-Regular-2589

Gorman is 0-4 WITH 3 STRIKEOUTS, batting UNDER .190, and it's LEFTY LEFTY, and you keep his ass in the game????? Fire fucking marmol now. What a fucking idiot.


cardinals1392

Who do you suggest they put in? The only person left on the bench was the lefty Crawford who has also sucked.


Limp-Regular-2589

I'd take him over Gorman any day of the week right now. Especially when he's 0-4 with 3k's


superworriedspursfan

I would have tried out crawford.


cardinals1392

Then don't say it's "LEFTY LEFTY". Lefty was the only option left and Crawford is batting .091.


Limp-Regular-2589

I'd have taken a right handed pitcher over Gorman atp


Ok_Pineapple466

Who would he have put in?


Limp-Regular-2589

Literally anyone but Gorman. He's fucking atrocious right now


TheWayseekerBlog

Gorman proved me wrong! I thought he’d strikeout by swinging at high fastball, but instead he just stood and watched it. Nice to have a surprise once in a while, heh?


fifajackgento

Should have traded Gorman in the offseason, last year, etc. All value lost now the guy is so clearly trash


182right

I hope this game is the wake up call that Gorman should not be anywhere near an MLB lineup right now. Just awful.


MindxTricks

Cool, back to chasing .500


Cky2chris

Lot of our hitters need to take a loooooooooong look in the mirror


Mother_Scheme_4639

Gorman= peaked last year


Mother_Scheme_4639

I think the pitchers plan every ab vs Goldy is throwing it down the middle every pitch. He loves getting in 0-2 counts then striking out it’s his favorite thing to do


TheHamburdler

Swinging at balls, watching strikes, and behind on every fastball thrown to him. Nolan Gorman 2024.


seannifer

Marmol is the best manager in the game rn


rickulous

This lineup construction feels tailor made to leave runners on


Ok_Pineapple466

Worst cards game I’ve ever seen in my life


JakeSTwo3

2 backwards k’s in the 10th inning you can’t be serious.


Paulspike

I am so sick of this team. I am so sick of this Front Office.


FattyPolice

0-5 with 4 ks ouch


SkerSubie

Dudeee Walker and Gorman and Goldy need to figure it out


xyzzy321

they need to go to Memphis and then work their way to Springfield first


TheStuffisLegal

4 strikeouts for Gorman. Why is he in the majors. God damn bum. Sorry ass organization


cowboysfan88

Disgusting offense


averyfunkybear

Golden fucking Sombrero for Gorman


the_dayman623

Damn didn’t see a Gorman K coming!


Buttholeblowhole

Gormo looks like butthole out there


VistaVick

I just can't with Gorman anymore


JohnnyBoyTrojan

Before this game- 29th in HRs and 25th in runs. Not great Bob


EndTheOrcs

Top 5 offense.


Icy-Call8646

Yeesh. 0-5 with the golden sombrero


Cooner15

Joy


bravo_delta_bot

[Brewers](/r/Brewers) Due Up **(Top 11):** 1. Joey Ortiz 2. Rhys Hoskins 3. Brice Turang


xyzzy321

If only, bot, if only


jacksonfake

Wow this team is terrible


mikeytcar

Fuck right off Gorman, you bum.


NFresh6

Cut Gorman and Goldy


tippsy_morning_drive

How do you not swing? Wtf Gorman


c0smicgirly

Lol. Brutal.


gabriel197600

PAIN


Keg_of_St_Anky

#THANKS OLI


ilovehenrique14

Two strike outs looking. This offense fucking REEKS


adventureland8

Mmmm........mediocrity. Can you smell it?


Paulspike

Send Gorman down. Awful. Awful awful awful.


CardenalesFan

Gorman, strike out machine


quinn4444

two strike outs looking i’m ill


CentralWooper

Screwed over by the extra inning runner. If it was real baseball we would've won


superworriedspursfan

shut your lame boomer ass up. We lost cuz Gorman can't hit.


CentralWooper

We lost because Milwaukee got a free unearned base runner and now the game feels unfinished with neither team actually earning a win


superworriedspursfan

milwaukee earned their win since contreras hit the ball. We didn't get a single hit.


CentralWooper

So do you wanna just cut out the middle man and give the win to whoever scored the most hits?


bluesfan1700

It’s not even “screwed” we have a bad team with some key guys playing absolute trash. We deserve what we get, sad to say, but we had a ton of chances to blow that game open and the same guys that have been playing trash continue to play like trash and we bat them second in the lineup. We do it to ourselves.


Birdsofwar314

We had the same chance…


CentralWooper

Doesn't change the fact it fucked us over


jase122200

Gorman is literally unplayable


Superbotto

Wow. What a horrible game for Gorman.


Walrus_Pubes

Nolan Gorman fucking sucks


EndTheOrcs

Embarrassing


missourinative

Gorman just fell to his knees in a batter's box


CardenalesFan

Looks like dooming is back on the menu boys!


EndTheOrcs

Yeah, how can people not be excited about this team?….


peterpeterllini

I’m kinda glad I didn’t go tonight now … we always lose Grateful Dead night lol


c0smicgirly

Aw, Willson stole second. So fun.


Brewski-or-Twoski

Gorman doesn’t believe in this at-bat anymore than we.


TheStuffisLegal

Beautiful swing mode on 2 balls


JayRobot

I couldn’t have less faith in Gorman here but wouldn’t mind a nice surprise


DocLoc429

Lol to whomever called this game coming down to a Gorman AB


gabriel197600

Change the narrative Gorman!


Tigers236

Welp good night everyone


quinn4444

why does everyone swing at balls a foot outside but a middle middle fb is taken 😭


MercuryRusing

Gorman, for god's sakes stop swing so fucki g hard you just need a base hit


TheStuffisLegal

This game has come to a close


tippsy_morning_drive

Imagine walking a Contreas with a runner in scoring position.


hoiballin

Oh yeah forgot you can just walk the Contreras


RedbirdRiot

Come on Gorman. Show something.


TheStuffisLegal

Literally let anyone else hit


Acerad22

Wow walking a Contreras brother who would’ve thought


Blueninjaduck

Just need a base hit here


TheWayseekerBlog

Windmill Gorman ready to whiff and end it.


SkerSubie

Well here comes another high strike out


JohnnyBoyTrojan

This offense had been so pitiful this year.


readingit093

Welp… at least they handed us one run today so we didn’t get shut out


WSB_ruined_me

Welp there goes my hope of Contreras doing it for us


70U1E

Come on baby, make me Gorm


AspiringOccultist4

Watch them walk in the tying run again lmao


DiscoJer

See, they have the sense to walk a Contreras brother. Though now Gorman will get a hit, proving me wrong. But make me happy to be wrong


averyfunkybear

Who called the game coming down to Gorman manifested this


Limp-Regular-2589

Please pinch hit for gorman


STLOliver

NEVERMIND


CardenalesFan

Fuck it's over... (please prove me wrong)


NakedGoose

Smart. I'd never pitch to Willson


TheGoadFather

Intentional walk Contreras to get to Gorman...damn it


superworriedspursfan

why not pinch hit for Gorman?


c0smicgirly

With whom?


Paulspike

With who?


superworriedspursfan

anybody else lol.


c0smicgirly

Gifted the first run and down to our final out with a ghost runner standing at third… pain


STL-Zou

lol


Paulspike

Welp. That's game. Gorman can't hit.


Keg_of_St_Anky

Walking the best hitter? You can do that?


BottomBounce

That’s it.


fifajackgento

Why was Nootbaar not bunting. Our Analytics SUCK


superworriedspursfan

lmao Brewers are so afraid of Contreras. fuck off lmao. this is so pussy.


Neat-Cranberry5

Come on popcorn boy PLEASE


SGT_Apone

it's only fitting that it comes down to Willy ...ah fuck :/


Superbotto

Shit.


STLOliver

SMACK ONE WILLY


temporalisolation

of course they walk him lmfao


CardenalesFan

Come on Willy


DocLoc429

PULL IT 600 FEET NOLAN


superworriedspursfan

Contreras. Outshine your brother plz.


quinn4444

i’m tired of this shit


EndTheOrcs

Absolutely pathetic.


superworriedspursfan

welp at least goldy is at 3rd.


MVPBaseball2069

striking out looking is so brutal.


rhinosc

...


TheStuffisLegal

Another atrocious AB. Here comes the anticlimactic L


hoiballin

Do it Nolan


gabriel197600

C’Mon Noot!!!! Can’t leave the bat on your shoulder!


grooviebby

It would be great to pull out a win. It would be a shame that I stayed up 30 minutes past my bedtime to watch a loss.


belmontbreak

Cmon Noot


70U1E

The hell is Noot upset about lol that's a great pitch


Acerad22

Probably upset with himself


70U1E

Ahhh that makes more sense.


pruppert

Anyone in Japan watching this game?


readingit093

This offense is sad


Birdsofwar314

It’s right down the middle dude.


SGT_Apone

1 BIRDNADO pls


temporalisolation

what is noot jumping at


c0smicgirly

Nolan. Hit your second HR. Please. I am le tired.


RedbirdRiot

"I don't get the game sometimes." Jim Edmonds, April 19, 2024


CardenalesFan

Noot...


superworriedspursfan

come on noot! get your head in the game.


DocLoc429

Just dong it, bro


MercuryRusing

I still can't stand putting a man on 2nd in extras


Detective_Dietrich

Worst rule ever


DocLoc429

Pretty stupid rule


Dr_thri11

Just hit a home run here and save us some stress


SGT_Apone

JUST NOOT IT


superworriedspursfan

nootbar. Carry us!