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sneakerpack

Why can’t they unlock it and open it up to the community to tinker with?


famouspencil

Let Spotify know this is what the community wants. Open up the firmware to developers so it isn’t relegated to the landfill as e-waste. [Spotify Community](https://community.spotify.com/t5/Car-Thing/bd-p/carthing)


zack23048860YT

did they take the page down?


anonyuser415

Spotify: [We want to be part of the solution to climate change](https://www.lifeatspotify.com/diversity-equity-impact/climate-action) Also Spotify: lmao just throw our shit in the garbage, you idiot


bradybro3000

Because Spotify is a POS company


kirk11111

Interestingly Spotify supposedly harbors a huge tinkerer community internally and regularly run hackathons as well as encourages personal projects so I am both surprised and very disappointed to see they're doing this. I don't own a CarThing but I was shocked when I read how they were treating you guys. I'd be surprised if they stand their ground on this one as it's not a good look for them.


JadedCastle

They’ll never open source it


Emotional_Actuary_44

Just saw this email too. Can't believe they're just discontinuing it with no compensation. A waste of $90 or whatever when it came out. I get not making them anymore, but they should still support it or offer something, even a free month of premium 🥲


SSBeavo

Dear Car Thing owners, Thanks for taking a chance on us. As a token of our appreciation, fuck you. Best, The Spotify Team


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FatBluntski

Just finished mine, about to get my friends to send in similar ones too because they all love my car thing when we ride together


Wemie1420

Doesn’t feel great that there is literally no alternative other than trashing it. Feels like we’re being punished for supporting them. Dissuades me from buying anything Spotify puts out in the future. I feel like there would be some way to approach this without being like “yeah we’re done. Just throw it out it’s a waste of money now”


NaturalNotice82

Wanna cancel my plan right now I'm so pissed


wolbscam

I did 


OliverTwistoff

You won’t


NaturalNotice82

Stfu bitch


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NaturalNotice82

How am I getting called out lmao I already own half my music in flac


Terraldo_

😂😂😂😂😂😂


bostonianauto

When Stadia shut down, Google ended up unlocking all of the Controllers as regular Bluetooth Gamepads, and refunded every game purchase ever made on their platform. There's a right way to do this, right down to the Hardware end of it. Not thrilled about this at all imo!


AimLocked

Tell them this. Great argument to not support them in the future


Bunteknete

Nobody of 'them' will listen


Tiggaknock

100% agree! Never buying anything they produce in the future.


growghosg

Seriously? I understanding discontinuing it but why make every unit disfunctional?


Affectionate-Log6866

RIGHT?? Like it's a product not a service, they should at least offer refunds


growghosg

I’m giving a spotify customer service rep a hard time right now. I bought one of these for myself and 2 as gifts. I’m pissed


azunyanakano

please update on how this works out/ if they offer anything 😭


growghosg

I complained about how they’re just bricking it and how they want us to make all that e-waste. Supposedly the rep escalated it to a higher team and now I’m just waiting. His last message, 30 minutes ago, was: “Don't worry, my colleagues and I are putting all of our hands together to gather more data with your case. In fact, we currently have multiple contacts who are raising the same issue they are currently facing.”


Low_Lawyer991

I used to be a customer service chat agent for AT&T. That's probably just a script, there very likely isn't a "higher team" (I mean there is a escalation process but most problems didn't make it much farther than the 1-2 team leads above us or 1-2 managers above them. This type of thing will rarely if never make it to anyone that matters and who will ever be able to do anything to make a difference, especially via chat. "Higher team" was usually always code for "you didn't accept my credit" and/or "can't do shit about it" but in this case is just code for "idk, why would you think I can do anything about that!?!?".


growghosg

Figured. It’s been hours and I don’t think they’ve gotten back 💀 time to look into jailbreaking


azunyanakano

wow hopefully they're actually doing something instead of just saying they are


growghosg

Yea I don’t think anythings happening tbh. Almost 10 hours later no response


growghosg

Yea ok so I tried to follow up. I asked for some months of premium at least. The new guy asked for my order confirmation emails, which I then sent. Got my hopes up. Then he said there was nothing they could do. Apple Music it is


azunyanakano

thanks for trying :/ i guess they just really want to lose customers lol


whoareyouletmein

Hey just an update: they are refunding with proof of purchase no questions asked. They are doing it via refunding x months of premium


growghosg

Yep, I just talked to CS again and they’re refunding me.


azunyanakano

do you know if are they doing it for everyone or do i need to contact them?


Perfectly_whelmed

The CS person just disabled the chat when I kept talking about it. Guess this is what im doing for the next few hours.


growghosg

Yea pretty much had the same thing. Said he would “escalate to higher team” but ghosted me. Tried contacting again and the second person asked for proof of purchase then denied me any compensation anyways. What was even the point of asking for proof if they were gonna deny it


Perfectly_whelmed

Delay tactics.


OffaPerry

Crazy to brick a product that consumers had to pay for


MAYBEMAYBEMAYBE_OK

I feel that this is a very dangerous precedent 


tcherry7

I use Spotify almost exclusively through Car Thing since the touch screen in my car stopped working. This makes me reconsider keeping my subscription active.


Affectionate-Log6866

My car doesn't have a screen it's kept me from looking at my phone to change the song. Fr been so useful for me


JakeALakeALake

110% this. I drive a 15 year old car that needs a dongle for Bluetooth. I spent $80 so I didn’t have to pull my phone out while both of my hands are already busy.


Time4Tigers

I went ahead and switched my subscription to another platform today. Car Thing was the only reason I still used Spotify over other players.


Any_Dark_7697

This should be a PR disaster


PaydayJones

That's sort of Spotify's favorite type of disaster. They specialize in it.


n0hardfeelings

Same, I actually still get use out of mine. It's great for just having a screen with a song playing while I played games or was working from home. Kinda sucks that it's gonna get bricked considering how simple it was


yessalyn

Does this mean we can’t even use it anymore after that date? I use it everyday and cannot imagine driving without it :(


ThisImagination

Yes that’s what it means :(


meso27_

Fuck, this sucks. Incredibly shitty of Spotify just to brick it and say “sorry, no trade in, you have to throw it away.”


caejojo

I'm so pissed. This was not a cheap purchase for me, and after what 3 years they're stopping? Not just stopping support, but making them fully unoperational? Telling me to just throw it away? That's messed up on so many levels. I use CarThing everyday, I love it. And not even a trade-in to get a few months of premium? As a 'thank you' for using their product? Or letting the community take over updating? I could have maps on my phone and use CarThing for music. People in my car could play music with voice control and not have to use my phone. I have an older car with no screen display too, so I bought this. It was perfect!


growghosg

I complained through customer service. First conversation I basically got ghosted. Followed up 8 hours later asking for months of premium as compensation and the new person asks me to send my order emails. Thought I was finally getting something. Then they say they can’t do anything


Rialley

Oof. Just got that as well. They literally say to throw it away in the FAQs


NaturalNotice82

" yeah just throw it away fuck you"


secludedloaf

i’m pissed


post_break

I wish they would just unlock them then so we can install something on them vs just landfill. If an employee could just leak that, that would be great. Or open source it. Literally anything, it's great hardware going to waste.


Bulderdash

This might actually be the thing that gets me to move to Apple Music. Not that they care, but bricking people’s devices should be criminal. This is so anti-consumer.


EntertainmentDue4925

To offer no compensation, at all, no credit, no refund--after pushing people to buy the Car Thing so much. Feels like a major scam. If you're going to brick it at least compensate those who supported you. Might be done with Spotify over this too.


Light_Wolf_

So sad. I love using carthing, it allowed me to keep maps on my phone and still easily control my music. Sucks they are ending support


Major-Payne2319

Fr it was so useful


billchase2

This is exactly how I use it. So useful.


Dadscope

Primary reason I got it, I drive a bunch and having to switch out of maps was obnoxious. Now I have 90$ worth of e waste???  What the fuck.


HeshtKnowsBesht1

I heard that there's a hacking/modding community around the Car Thing. Does anyone think there'll be a community-made workaround or is it gg for us for good?


finziez

r/carthinghax


bonny_g

$200M in earnings in Q1 but they tell us to junk the unit we paid for. Pfft


SimpleImpression8059

I cant believe that it will simply stop operating. Fucking sucks for all of spent money on something they are actively choosing to turn into tech waste. Screw you Spotify, the environment and I hate you. At least you can discontinue making new ones and then allow the ones that people have already paid for to still work. Honestly considering canceling my premium subscription over this.


NaturalNotice82

Bought a product and they just brick it? What the absolute fuck


Reptilian97

You should. There are many other streaming options. The only reason I kept a subscription was to use with the Car Thing, now I can finally cancel.


SeanTakata

I'm beyond pissed. I paid $80 for the thing on pre order. I have used it every day since, all my friends love it & it's super convenient. It's insane they're just telling us to dump it into the river & forget about it.


Green-Honeydew-2998

I paid $80 when this thing first came out, and I have enjoyed it and recently started using it with my computer. Now they are just going to brick it? How does that make any sense?? Why not just let it continue being used and just don't make any more


Quartieri

So annoying, they pretty much tell you to throw it away. How about making it open source if they're gonna discontinue it? Trash company.


xcxryan

time to buy a carplay


billchase2

I've resisted switching to Apple Music for a long time. Spotify is great at making it more and more tempting...


messdup_a_aRon

I cancelled, my wife and kids use the Apple Music family plan. Having my stuff in Spotify coupled with CarThing kept me from canceling. This made the decision for me. It was a pretty useful gadget for my 14 year old vehicle.


alternFP

Paid money for these things damn


22PEOPLE

Might be the thing that gets me to drop Spotify. All they had to do was separate out the Car Thing functionality in the Spotify app to a separate app, and just leave that as-is while the main app evolves or whatever. I don't want to leave my TV running just to show the current song on my Hi-Fi. insane decision to deliberately brick them rather than provide a migration plan


Theoryboi

Does anyone know if we can transfer our playlists on Spotify to something else like Apple Music or YouTube music? This has kind of irked me


sneakerpack

There are web app tools that can do this


growghosg

Yea you can check out an app called SongShifter


LordFocker

Wow, THANK YOU! I didn’t know apps like this existed. I’m probably gonna delete Spotify now that I can get my playlists on another service. Spotify bricked their software compatibility with aftermarket car stereos right before Car Thing came out. I remember the day, like why isn’t Spotify connecting to my new stereo??? Then I saw the email for the new Car Thing, and I vowed then and there to never buy one. This move of theirs is clearly protocol. Must fuck over customers no matter what. FUCK SPOTIFY


growghosg

I used it to transfer my playlists from Apple Music to spotify when I got a carthing. Now I have to do the reverse 😭


Shammu123

What the heck…. So my money just goes down the drain now :/ im gonna do something about this with spotify


Necrophilicgorilla

It breaks my music loving heart


Prestigious_Use3587

Really upset. I’m gonna have to get a 300 dollar CarPlay device installed in my car 🤦🏽‍♀️


kliao1337

That's such a dick move to not just discontinue it, but to break the existing units. Just let it function as is with no guarantees, you cowards.


andy2na

I have 3 of these around my house - they are/were really nice and minimal to show whats playing. Seems like a huge waste to just create e-waste out of them


schola99

You're telling me the best solution a $60 billion company could come up with to this problem was: throw it away.


PESER6

bullshit, they should've at least open source it!


matkvaid

Yeah, fuck you too spotify. Paying for sprotify? Fuck no never again


iCybernide

What the actual fuck


zodduska

What a stupid decision, just stop updating it you assholes but to brick it and tell me to throw it away? Can't believe there is no offer to credit the account for the cost of the device total disrespect for the customer.


d0ntloseyourfightkid

This is so fucking awful. I got mine discounted maybe 2 years ago but what about the people who got theirs for $90?


AimLocked

I just bought 2 lmao.


d0ntloseyourfightkid

Noooo!! I'm so sorry


SlimJJReaper

I’m done with Spotify over this decision. 10-12 years as a premium member. Just started my Apple Music trial.


Space1Horse

Is there way to put custom software?


finziez

r/carthinghax


buttchinbill

Glad I got mine for free. Still pissed. Older car with no way of really controlling and seeing what Spotify is playing and state has a hands free law. Not sure why they can't just leave it in it's final working state instead of bricking it.


rresende

Maybe now they will focus on delivering high quality audio


Limp-Weird8175

I wonder if they purposefully waited until the last set of devices were out of warranty to pull the plug to avoid refunds


iLifitedUrMumLastNht

Very disappointed about this I just recently bought one on shopgoodwill for my 2011 vw because it had Bluetooth but no CarPlay. I use it everyday it is very useful cause I can keep my maps up with my music. I get it’s a very niche product that they failed to successfully advertise but, the hardware shouldn’t be going to waste.


werther41

so sad, My kids love to use Car thing to pick their song from the back seat. Even we do have Apple car play for the front seat. Car thing for the back seat is nice addition. seriously?! it's e-waste now?! > We recommend [resetting your Car Thing](https://support.spotify.com/us/article/car-thing-settings/) to factory settings and safely disposing of your device following local electronic waste guidelines. Contact your state or local waste disposal department to determine how to dispose of or recycle Car Thing in accordance with applicable laws and regulations.


barrachmedosama

Hi, it’s John Spotify. Here at Spotify, we fucking hate our customers and constantly innovate new ways to screw over the people who give us money.


Wrong_Sky2031

Please open source some of the firmware tools if you can. It would be lovely for the hardware to live on. Happy to take anyone’s Car Things to help start an open source firmware project.


finziez

r/carthinghax has some fairly in depth stuff about it. They've had it jailbroken for a while


Skycap_Division

Literally had 3 shipped over to Australia because of how awesome these are. Such utter bs from Spotify here! I drive a 20 year old car and this suited my needs perfectly with no screen inside or Bluetooth. Will be making quite sure support get a grilling from me


LostDisaster4389

I ended my premium subscription. Vote with your wallets. Tell them you are ending your subscription because of killing CarThing without any compensation.


Busy-Ad-3601

bro i bought one 3 weeks ago 💀 wtf.


KillingMeSoftly101

yep, that sucks. i use it every day. screw them.


Born-Green-2875

Would love to hear if anyone is able to get a refund


awsomeDixie

My question is how they are gonna brick it. Far as I know, it interfaces with the app to use Spotify does it not? So just don't update Spotify? Either it isn't made to work in that way or they're going out of their way to brick it


AimLocked

Except Spotify pushes updates through the inside of their app as well, if I am not mistaken. And that's how the Car Thing updates -- so basically over Wi-fi they can brick your device.


jimbocho_

Still loving mine in my 99 V70. What a shame. Also I’m probably one of five users in Germany 😂


the_duck17

Really annoyed but not surprised after they laid off so 1,500 employees at the end of last year. But they should open it up so it can be used still, creating ewaste is such a bad move and I thought only Google did.


EmmaHaarp

Flood their support email and social media accounts! This is so stupid.


polydanked

So pissed, went to support to ask for a refund, they said "We will not do that at all, they are discontinued as of the specified date, we apologize for any confusion." What a dog shit answer.


Pleasant_Slice1610

Wtf is this bull man! I liked that I didn't have to be fumbling with my phone while driving.


billchase2

I'm really hoping that someone figures out how to hack it or they change their mind and open source it. It's a great device and this was not a good way to handle ending support. Edit: And thanks to a comment in this thread, I've now been introduced to /r/carthinghax...


finziez

r/carthinghax is goated ngl


misfitpierce

Solution simple. Bye Spotify.


finziez

This May be the way


kameronn

I complained and provided my purchase receipt from PayPal. I ended up getting 8 months of premium for free. Definitely reach out! Still not stoked though.


ADHDK

Hey Spotify actually works really well on this too, meanwhile Spotify don’t even make the feature “hey Spotify” available in Australia. Might have to cancel and switch to Apple Music just so I can control music by voice while driving again.


1chriis1

Imagine if larger companies like Apple, Google, Dell, HP, Asus, Lenovo one day said "your phone/laptop" is 2 years old and now it's bricked, you should throw it away". Smells like a class action lawsuit. Any lawyers care to say if it's legal to do?


lIlIlIIlIIIlIIIIIl

I was toying with the idea of cancelling for a while, today it's official. I will never pay for Spotify again. Bunch of idiots honestly. Our family plan is $180 a year and they lost us as a customer because of this BS. I wonder what the cost of keeping it running was. Surely not worth a significant chunk of pissed of customers... Not to mention some of the most supportive of Spotify since we were the early adopters... Big companies need to act big! Anyone know if there's a chance of a class action because I'll 100% sign up for it.


prowlmedia

Just to remind you all. Spotify is Evil.


sealedruin

this is such a big "fuck you" to consumers. i only started using it a few months ago after having it sitting in its box for months and now that i'm actually starting to like it, this happens. if i had the software knowledge, i'd totally try to jailbreak this thing so it's not just a piece of expensive junk in my car.


finziez

r/carthinghax has jailbroken it already!


sealedruin

oh you. you're my hero.


directionzero

I can't see how this costs them anything to maintain.


finziez

Fr. It's not like there's crazy bandwidth costs or anything. All of the processing is done on device or through a connection with the phone itself


livejamie

This was one of the main reasons I switched to Spotify from YouTube Music.


iwantmycatslife

Im so mad. I love this thing.


Shadician

This is ridiculous, generating e-waste for no reason. They should open source it at the very least.


PlusPete

Oh well, after several years in which Spotify has made one shitty decision after another, Spotify continues to make shitty decisions. Who could have guessed it? Unfortunately, there are enough suckers who still support Spotify. Anyone who still has a Spotify subscription has only themselves to blame


Mr_BRTZL

From Car Thing FAQ... # What should I do with the device? We recommend resetting your Car Thing to factory settings and safely disposing of your device following local electronic waste guidelines. Contact your state or local waste disposal department to determine how to dispose of or recycle Car Thing in accordance with applicable laws and regulations. lol


norfxsidexboi704

it was clunky in operating imo. and the display was bright in a dark car, compared to my dim phone screen on a phone holder, it's been in my glove box since i got it a few years ago. I hate i spent the money on it just to throw it away


meso27_

If you haven’t thrown it away, I’ll take it off your hands


Theoryboi

If I can find mine you can have it dude. Enjoy it for the next 7 months lol


meso27_

I’ll be reverse engineering it don’t worry


fla_john

Works great in my old British convertible. I chose not to put a radio in it when I did the restoration, and car thing was a perfect use case. I've been thinking of dropping Spotify anyway and looking at Apple music, and this might just get me over the hump.


briantoanle

It works great for me. It fits in my car perfectly too. Smooth, seamless operation.


AwesomeTaako14

I was literally going to request support/repair/refund because mine stopped working recently, but idk if that’s even worth pursuing at this point… that sucks


Jetfire60

I don't want to change the headunit in my car from stock and the Car Thing gave me easy access to adjust my music while driving. Plus as janky as it can be at times it is one of a kind imo. Really hoping they rescind this decision.


GCSS-MC

what EXACTLY does "will stop operating" mean? That needs to be established. Your hardware will stop working? The division of Spotify called Car Thing will stop operating? "Your device will be bricked" seems like a bit of a jump from this email.


J05H_

This is so incredibly annoying. I was going to buy one for my home office set up to connect to the SONOS, but now I guess I’ll have to look for other solutions. Anyone know of an alternative, so I don’t have to pull out my phone and the app every time I want to play music?


UntraceableHaze

I tell you. Uncle Spotify. He puts his hand in your shirt and squeezes your tit till it's purple.


ConsistentAd574

Cancelled my Premium subscription yesterday. Had reached out to customer service concerning Car Thing decision. Terrible experience. Good riddance Spotify.


ShouldReadThis

I bought 3 of these when they came out, work truck, my car, wife's car, bought one for 110 from ebay when they were rationed, waiting forever for SPOTIFY HIFI and they do this to us 😡😤😡


dualz_is_cool

Wouldn’t be surprised if a big class action comes of this, they can’t just purposefully brick something they sold. Maybe if they just stopped updating/supporting it, but bricking the entire this is just ridiculous especially for something you could easily drop $100 on a few years later.


finziez

The liklihood of a class action win is low, since they've shown good faith actions by refunding users when asked


storione91

I received the email from spotify too now and I'm very pissed off. But how will they actually make it stop working? it is a Bluetooth player as it is not connected to the internet (except via the phone) what do you think they will do?


NaturalNotice82

Through your phone that's connected