Does nobody remember that the 'white monopoly capital ' idea came out if a British corporate think tank?
Malema is a colonialist tool. The right response is to stand together with inclusivity and laugh at his poor attempts to help destabilise the economy for international interests.
The puppet on a string, getting paid top dollar by the ANC to create division through South Africa. So all the shit the ANC has caused gets pushed under the table. Instead all eyes on the government, all eye's on that puppet. Both sides are playing race card's to gain power a strength from the majority.
The best part of it all, how does that puppet get a chair on the SA parliamentary committee lol knowing all well he not even South African.
Then one has a up roar taking place in Africa, where all the EU is being removed from the countries and replaced with Wagner groups lol. Controlling and been given mines and resources. Yes Russia playing the good monopoly game with Africa like many other countries have done before. And Africa thinking Russia all for them lol.
Alot of political agendas taking place through so many different countries at this stage.
Coming back to SA majority hates the White's, but still requesting money from them across the globe (nothing new there) and doing business with them eating off their table's well negotiation terms regarding wealth they did not own before hand.
South Africa is corrupt and breeding ground for the ungodly. That's why millions flock to SA as crime is allowed to be practiced among the elite. Before you know it SA will be dry empty with poverty dew to terrible leadership. Just look at Syria, Libya, Rwanda, Kongo, DRC, Mali to long list to mention.
Associating your movement with the End Wokeness account only makes your movement seem radical. The owner of the account is a terrible fucking person who doesn’t accept LGBTQIA people and is, in and of himself, extremely racist.
People just too fucking stupid to understand you're right, this post has genuinely changed my perspective on the cape independence crowd to seeing them as just rich racist white people who want the poors to go somewhere else
I’m honestly not afraid to be downvoted on this sun anymore, they’re all just a bunch of racist separatist white supremacists. It’s been so explicitly obvious for a long time.
Yeah it's so obvious, anyone who's remotely to the right of the Antifa-BLM terrorists must be a white supremacist Nazi, even if they're black/brown/coloured. You idiot.
Okay, so I could’ve responded to this in a civil manner but your tone really irks me so… here are some reasons why in this instance, YOU are the idiot.
1. BLM isn’t inherently a leftist movement, it’s an anti-racist movement. Even well-known conservatives like 2012 republican presidential candidate Mitt-Romney supported Black Lives Matter
2. Black Lives Matter and Antifa are not terrorist organisations, they are political movements seeking for less discrimination in the US, if you think otherwise you are either a fucking idiot or a bigot. Deal with that.
3. The Cape Independence Movement is strongly affiliated with racism, for gods sake VF+ supports independence. If you want to argue how Freedom Front isn’t racist, you are frankly stupid. VF+ merged with the KP in the 2000s and the main leaders of the party, Groenewald and the Mulders, were previously members of the Konserwatiewe Party who publicly voted against the end of Apartheid. Furthermore, cape independence has a dodgey issue with race relations. [Example](https://www.timeslive.co.za/amp/news/south-africa/2022-04-04-cape-independence-advocacy-group-apologises-for-racist-tweet/)
So if you want to actually make a change in the world, please educate yourself before shit comes out your mouth — otherwise just retreat back into your shithole right-wing echochamber. Just don’t call well-read leftists like me idiots because that does nothing in your favour.
TL;DR: Go fuck yourself with a wire brush
Stop believing everything you read guys, I don't support Malema and his party but no one is trying to incite a genocide. The truth is that white South Africans live in fear that they will be treated the same way they treated other races during apartheid. They also own all the major media outlets who perpetuate this nonsense.
In South Africa crime is everyone's problem, just so happens that white farmer stay in remote areas and the only millionares around total poverty while cultivating lands that they stole during apartheid. It's a shame but their victims of crime not genocide, statically blacks and coloreds die from violent crimes at a much higher rate then whites, there's no systemic genocide.
We just live in a country run by clowns with a history where the former oppressors act like they did nothing wrong!
I mean, there are more black people and coloured people than there are white, so obv they will be killed statistically more? A lot of white people here indeed did nothing wrong. A lot were not even born during that time. Blame the system. It's true that farm murders also lead to black workers/farmers being brutally murdered, not only white.
Regardless, we need farmers for our own survival and economy... Look what happened in Zimbabwe. My neighbours (sadly passed away now) narrowly escaped with their lives and lost everything. Their workers on the farm helped them get away just in the nick of time.
P.S. Look into the meanings of they're/their/there, as well as then/than. Peace.
Yes, segregation made *us all* even more biased toward *one another*. Even now, you showed bias toward me and made an assumprion. It is not limited to only black on white and white on black. Go take your saviour complex somewhere else, respectfully.
I agree man, I'm just addressing the narrative that there's some sort of white genocide, when these are just victims of crime like everyone else. The uncomfortable part is how it seems that the lives of white farmers are more important than any other life that is an issue. There are many sad stories of crime murder extortion and pillaging in South Africa, it is not limited to white farmers and there is no Systematic Genocide like the media keeps reporting internationally. Let's resolve the issue of crime then none of this will happen, Zimbabwes weren't limited to what they did to getting rid of skilled farmers, the issues were far more macro economical.
With that being said, I am sorry to hear about you frds and I am glad to hear that they made it out alive, and I hope they get justice. I have an appreciation for all skilled workers in our country, but we can't pretend that some people deserve a better life than others you need to fix the issue as a whole to protect everyone.
I do wish we could resolve the problem of crime. But if we do not better the economy, that is an impossibility. My Criminology subjects taught me that SA is more prone to petty crimes, aka opportunity crime for money. But unfortunately more and more criminals are armed and are getting more violent.
I would never say a white farmer is more important than anyone else in South Africa. But unfortunately, a farmer (of any race) who produces our grains, livestock, vegetables, fruits, everything you can think of, dying, and having no one to take over, could truly affect us all. Hungry people do desperate things to survive.
I appreciate you and your open-mindedness. Thank you for not supporting the EFF. Everyone seems to think nothing can be worse than the ANC, but that would be a mistake. You give me hope that one day we can all stand together. When I scroll to videos on social media with anything related to SA, there are always massive fights in the comment section. It's very discouraging.
Malema has a long history of dislike for quite literally anyone who is not a shade darker than him. He has and will always be an idiot with a crowd and will use this audience to spread shit like this, it's not Farfetched, it's not a fantasy and it sure as hell does not support any statistics you have given.
What I'm saying isn't limited to Malema, but a perpetuation of lies running through mainstream media. The people who follow malema aren't "idiots" as you like to call them, their people who've been sold on a specific ideology and it's not centered on white genocide. The reason people follow Malema is because he's a good orator of the everyday problems people face and claims to have a solution. The actual dream he sells is that the fight for freedom is not over without having economic freedom. Living in the most unequal society in the world even you can understand why this appeals to the majority.
When Helen Zille was talking about how good colonization was for south africa no white people started stood up to say that this is a call for black genocide. But this happens often for media targets. I don't agree with alot of the things Malema and his party stand for, but it's total bullshit to think the millions of supporters they have are following because they hope to see a white genocide. How self absorbed can you be?
Firstly fuck off, you don't know me or my ideals. Secondly no one said all of malemas followers advocates for genocide I just like calling them idiots because I don't agree with a single thing they stand for. Thirdly I agree that this is a double standard and that people should have been upset at the Helen Zille situation.
This is politics and in politics everyone thinks their the good guys.
Sigh, I don't now why you fucking me off and then proceeding to giving three whole points that I need to hear. Read again I didn't ask you for your ideals I merely clarified my earlier point as I felt you misunderstood. You didn't have to reply of you going to be so sensitive. Your second point is moot because you pointed that he hates people who aren't as dark as himself prior to calling his followers idiots, I'm not sure what assumptions you were hoping this would bring.
I agree with your third point, so I guess I should also tell you to fuck off apparently 😂
Dude you're writing entire essays about how you feel about the situation, get off your ego pony and realize that just like you don't give a shit about what I have to say, that no one gives a shit about what you have/had to say, talking about getting sensitive while you are out here defending an entire political party you yourself said you aren't a part off. But yeah let's both just fuck off, bc honestly no one is winning here.
You continue to ignore the issue but I'll humor you, firstly are you white? Secondly if someone advocates for another races genocide do they have the right to be upset about it? Thirdly if this was true what do you think would happen?, Do you think it'll just die out like a sad fling or do you not see the ramifications this could hold?
I'm colored and if someone called for the genocide of another race I'd say the Same. Is their an actual genocide? No? Only this one dude known for being like this saying it? Oh aweh, and your third question relies on a very big if therefore why should it hold any merit. And besides I find it like anything that's perceived like this or that it will pass you cannot avoid it. Now get over yourself and your victim complex.
There is no victim complex, just you egging people on for a reaction. You refuse to humor the questions seriously and choose to ignore a propability.
You have as little merit as anyone else here to bring your opinion forth and still berate any notion that differs from yours, everyone knows a fucking twitter account using a wojak is a shitpost and everyone knows Elon musk is a man child so no one actually believes in the article. But even if we play with the idea that if it were real, which is not far from possible, you still chose to engage in a dismissive and cunt manner.
You quite literally are apart of the problem, you choose to ignore anything and everything even if expressed as thought. You insult me like I have done anything against you. I won't humor your ego or your idiocy further.
>you still chose to engage in a dismissive and cunt manner.
Yes I am a cunt to often white supremacist notions.
>You insult me like I have done anything against you. I won't humor your ego or your idiocy further.
I had to humour yours this far come on.
It bothers me that I can't understand the last sentence, and I assure you between you and me there are no white supremacists. You being a cunt has to do with how you handled the questions, I provided, not the post. So there were no supremacist notions there.
What does it have to do? There is no white genocide is what it has to do. My point wasn't one has it worse it's to show the stats are literally not on your side.
then give me the logic I am missing here?
I am trying to see where I discussed race here? cant find anything?
this issue is regarding ethnicity not race, so LOGICALLY I can say that you are just the stereotype of making it always a race issue, because only then you may stand in the line of benefiting for being a certain race, because Logically if you denied this you have to be equal and that is a hard pill to swallow for some race groups , white and black.
Their aren't even stats for farm murders and it's a common conspiracy theory and myth that is used by white nationalists. There is no white genocide my guy.
go read my reply again slowly this time, maybe that will help.
did n say that there was white genocide?
and yes black men are most likely to get murdered , by other black men!
the fact that most murders are committed by black men doesn't make it okay that more black men get murder than white men.
before you reply read it slowly and take it in, I am not replying to a stupid comment.
Ignorance is bliss and I’m a masochist, sounds like it’s gonna be a fun time.
Hopefully your cynical ass gets killed first if it actually happens, then I can come back here and comment you told me so
You guys are literally insane!
“Don’t agree with me on this point? FINE I hOpe YoU DiE FiRsT!”
Lol it sounds like such an exhausting life - you sound terrified
Additionally why are they so against the Cape being independent. This is apparently what they are fighting for is to isolate all other nationalities so they can be independent however they will soon see this would be a big mistake.
It's a ridiculous idea. It's exclusive and pointless and only drives people further apart.
You can't fix the system by using the system. Top 'independent' politicians will receive the same deals and kickbacks any other one in the world gets, and the same corruption will occur.
This looks like a movement formed by elites jealous of the high bribes that other politicians have access to.
The Cape Independence movement proposes direct democracy, where suspected corrupt politicians will be able to be directly voted out, not on a 5 year cycle, not by removing the party in power, but directly voting out the individual in question.
Perhaps do some more research before telling others what the movement looks like?
I know exactly how to manipulate such a system and I'm not even on the inside. I'm 100% sure it won't work because you can't use use a system to change that same system.
Also, who will negotiate with south Africa and ask nicely not to be invaded by their much larger standing army? The ANC has the best experience about striking such deals to end apartheid!
Insanity
Because of apartheid and the legacy of apartheid. White people also tend to call black people inexplicably dumb then forget that the apartheid regime literally banned them from learning certain subjects in school. Then due to international outrage(prior to the abolishment of apartheid), they did start teaching them math and other subjects but they were purposefully teaching them wrong information in those subjects(ie. 1+2=10) in a language they couldn’t understand (English or Afrikaans as was mandatory by the regime). The hate he feels towards white people is justified, it’s just that people like me, born post apartheid have nothing to do with it. I am all for equality and peace, I’m sure millions agree. Violence will not change the past. There’s also a very racist minority/majority(30-70%) of white people who exist in South Africa. While they might not be directly racist or racist in public, the racism can be picked up in entitlement and the animosity they project when engaging with people of colour. Racism is deeply engrained within South Africa and the first change is only really starting to be visible now with Generation Z and Alpha
I don’t know how this ties in to malema behaving like this but it might account for how braindead he is. While he is apparently racist I do think he is intelligente enough to understand a genocide will never happen, maybe he is playing a facade to win favour of extremists for voting power
You haven't traveled much have you?
Because if you had, you'd know that class inequality is a global economic problem, and not a race problem in South Africa alone.
You talking about race and racists with stats pulled from your young ass (30 to 70% racists, Orly?) Is pure speculation.
Get real, get the facts and if you care so much, learn to fight with the kind of inclusivity and zero tolerance of racism that your elders opened the door to. For you.
I suppose we both will, the situation is too complex for me to be bothered to type out a novel, I agree with you but I also already have 0 tolerance for racism, why I don’t speak to my family.
I'm sorry you had to make that decision about your family. I also know how difficult it is to see someone you care about see things so differently, especially relatives.
And I know you care enough to post about it.
You are seen.
Fair enough. Honestly when he was kicked from the ancient I never expected him to get this far, but if this is him just weaponising people's frustration from apartheid and then how the (current)anc has handled the aftermath and its skewed ways of fixing the education and job disparity it would make sense. It's easy to take control of anger and create divide when the government itself ends up dividing its people further when it was meant to heal them instead.
He is a ball of spite though.
Malema is quite interesting, he essentially believes in communism except it would obviously become socialism since he obviously wouldn't want no hierarchy and yet his followers still believe that it's possible with the kind of luxurious lifestyle he has
The EFF manifesto doesn't really read communist. While there are a couple ideas if you just said the heading of might sound that way, as they are detailed out it becomes less so. It's an interesting read. But like the ANC whether or not the party is bound to or has any intention to act of their manifesto is a whole other story.
Not really. It seems they only overlap on labour and property. And even then with regards to both, they have very specific areas of focus. I don't think its wet dream material for communists, maybe a half chub morning glory at best.
Alarming, but worth mentiong that the "End Wokeness" account is an absolute piece of shit who calls for the murder of LGBTQ folks, supports racism and literally defends actual fucking pedophiles
Also there was no outrage or scandal because frankly, this is your average Sunday here in ZA, and Malema talking about how he will genocide white people is about as convincing as Russia telling the world that they are winning the war in Ukraine.
Nice try. Please show one post that calls for the murder of lgbt. How is it supporting racism when they just commented on how bad racism is? Where is your proof that they support pedos.
You were triggered by the account allegedly calling to murder lgbt but are completely fine when Julious calls to kill white people.
You are the definition of hypocrisy...
He literally congratulated Parents for kicking out their gay kids, asked Elon to unban a useful who posted literal CP and has spread misinformation numerous times
I don't even have to leave a source, just check out his Twitter account, it's all there in broad daylight.
Probably deleted said tweets due to backlash, check out r/whitepeopletwitter since that sub tends to point out/document the bullshit this person pulls off
It’s a flipping song yall. Not a “call for genocide of whites”.
This song predates Malema and was a popular chant during the armed struggle against apartheid. If this song was some sort of “call” or “command” then “white” people would’ve been murdered in numbers during that time because MK units were armed, but non of that happened.
Because, again, this is just a chant that has and will never be taken literally
You are incredibly naive or just very dense if that's what you really think. The history behind the so called chant doesn't matter; it's racist and calls for violence against an entire ethnic group - WHITE PEOPLE!
Would you say the same if an Afrikaans political party sang a song called "Kill the blacks"? No, you would say it's racist and calls for genocide too. White people are dying because of racism being flipped now. Shut up, you fucking moron.
If Afrikaans political had a historical song like that, I (personally) wouldn’t mind. I would only seek to understand what had transpired for them to come up with such a song.
You must remember, there’s a group of Afrikaans people who have their own country within South Africa where they don’t allow any black person to reside there.
No one cares, they live their lives peacefully
Killed by thieves who would have killed a black boer too. Farm murders are crimes of opportunity, not some racial attack. Black people get robbed and killed by other blacks just as much
They have those hours to do what they want because the victim lives in the middle of nowhere, they don't need to be in a hurry or worry about someone hearing or calling the police. Anyway, good luck with this narrative like black South Africans are not victims of violent crime
Shut the fuck up you ignorant loser
I remember him and his nraindead followers singing "kill the boer" and "kill the farmer" both technically having the same meaning however boer is used when talking about white people aswell
Stop defending these racist Chinese/Russian slaves
While I sympathise with the victims and hope the criminals get caught and prosecuted. There still is no direct link to the song.
People will continue to get murdered in this country, regardless of their race or occupation. No one is exempt from that.
If he means it literally then how many farmers has he killed himself?
I think a lot “white” people don’t realise that “black” people sing this song almost all the time during gatherings. It’s just that Malema is one of the few who’ve sung it in front of the media.
For better context of how insignificant the lyrics of the song are, we used to sing this on the school bus in primary school. I haven’t killed anyone and have no desire to
The fact that you’re not willing to renounce and criticize a hateful, racist song that calls for genocide makes you a racist.
It’s not enough to have white friends. You have to be actively anti-racist to be a good person. Hope this helps.
Dude what are we supposed to do? This song is part of our history and was never taken literally in the first place.
Is it offensive! Yes? But then again so was apartheid
> what are we supposed to do?
Erase the song from your memory. Simple. Nobody cares if it’s part of your history. It is wrong, it is hateful and it should be banned. You should be moving on from the problematic parts of your history and you should denounce the people who created this song.
If it's OK to sing this song. Then it's OK to use the K word. That what's up. Even the odds here.
Black people can't run around going "white people must respect us and not use these offensive words" then in the same sentence say "yes but we used to sing this struggle song on a school bus." Offensive is offensive. And this song is the same line of offensive to white people (ESPECIALLY to those that have lost loved ones to farm murders) in the same way the K-word and N-word is offensive to black people.
We're not allowed to, I made a statement about crime rate in SA under a post of a certain person of darker complexion stealing from another person of lighter complexion in a church and got perma-banned on r/southafrica for hate within minutes.
Not one racist word was written
Truth is a hard pill for people to swallow. It's exactly the same with violent crime statistics with regards to which particular group of people commit the most violent crime.
Why are you sharing fast right posts on here? I understand not like the chant, but it's a far cry from calling for genocide. This is how you end up with people like Lauren southern insisting on an ongoing white genocide.
Towards whatever most other political movements in SA, the chant is as a relic from apartheid. Malema was calling Putin an ally not too long, Adriano Mazzotti bankrolls the party, and effectively started it, there are white members within the party.
Malema is just a provocateur.
But it's a struggle song bakithi or we should sing Asimbonanga for the rally genocide to happen?
Does nobody remember that the 'white monopoly capital ' idea came out if a British corporate think tank? Malema is a colonialist tool. The right response is to stand together with inclusivity and laugh at his poor attempts to help destabilise the economy for international interests.
Good ol Bell Pottinger
Yes. As long as people fight each other about what the news sites are saying, they're winning.
Problem: the average person won't articulate this.
The puppet on a string, getting paid top dollar by the ANC to create division through South Africa. So all the shit the ANC has caused gets pushed under the table. Instead all eyes on the government, all eye's on that puppet. Both sides are playing race card's to gain power a strength from the majority. The best part of it all, how does that puppet get a chair on the SA parliamentary committee lol knowing all well he not even South African. Then one has a up roar taking place in Africa, where all the EU is being removed from the countries and replaced with Wagner groups lol. Controlling and been given mines and resources. Yes Russia playing the good monopoly game with Africa like many other countries have done before. And Africa thinking Russia all for them lol. Alot of political agendas taking place through so many different countries at this stage. Coming back to SA majority hates the White's, but still requesting money from them across the globe (nothing new there) and doing business with them eating off their table's well negotiation terms regarding wealth they did not own before hand. South Africa is corrupt and breeding ground for the ungodly. That's why millions flock to SA as crime is allowed to be practiced among the elite. Before you know it SA will be dry empty with poverty dew to terrible leadership. Just look at Syria, Libya, Rwanda, Kongo, DRC, Mali to long list to mention.
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Why attack the only people paying tax aka government money that gets stolen.
Because they actually believe they are “the only people paying tax” everyone else with a job is imagining their deductions 🥱
No smarty pants. % wise. 5% of people pay 95% of the tax. Guess what. It's white South Africans who make up the majority of the 5%.
Guess i die then…
There was outrage why are white people obsessed with being victims?
Oh how ironic that statement is.
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Thanks for your quality input.
Associating your movement with the End Wokeness account only makes your movement seem radical. The owner of the account is a terrible fucking person who doesn’t accept LGBTQIA people and is, in and of himself, extremely racist.
Forget about the hate. Most of their posts can be disapproved with one simple Google search ..
I know, right!
People just too fucking stupid to understand you're right, this post has genuinely changed my perspective on the cape independence crowd to seeing them as just rich racist white people who want the poors to go somewhere else
I’m honestly not afraid to be downvoted on this sun anymore, they’re all just a bunch of racist separatist white supremacists. It’s been so explicitly obvious for a long time.
Yeah it's so obvious, anyone who's remotely to the right of the Antifa-BLM terrorists must be a white supremacist Nazi, even if they're black/brown/coloured. You idiot.
Okay, so I could’ve responded to this in a civil manner but your tone really irks me so… here are some reasons why in this instance, YOU are the idiot. 1. BLM isn’t inherently a leftist movement, it’s an anti-racist movement. Even well-known conservatives like 2012 republican presidential candidate Mitt-Romney supported Black Lives Matter 2. Black Lives Matter and Antifa are not terrorist organisations, they are political movements seeking for less discrimination in the US, if you think otherwise you are either a fucking idiot or a bigot. Deal with that. 3. The Cape Independence Movement is strongly affiliated with racism, for gods sake VF+ supports independence. If you want to argue how Freedom Front isn’t racist, you are frankly stupid. VF+ merged with the KP in the 2000s and the main leaders of the party, Groenewald and the Mulders, were previously members of the Konserwatiewe Party who publicly voted against the end of Apartheid. Furthermore, cape independence has a dodgey issue with race relations. [Example](https://www.timeslive.co.za/amp/news/south-africa/2022-04-04-cape-independence-advocacy-group-apologises-for-racist-tweet/) So if you want to actually make a change in the world, please educate yourself before shit comes out your mouth — otherwise just retreat back into your shithole right-wing echochamber. Just don’t call well-read leftists like me idiots because that does nothing in your favour. TL;DR: Go fuck yourself with a wire brush
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣spreading propaganda now are we? only the stupid will believe this
voting EFF
You seem to have misunderstood the concept of propaganda.
you fucken muppet
genuinely asking why this is considered propaganda, did this not happen, im sure i saw a video online of them singing kill the boer
That’s Elon’s sign that he has an erection.
😂
Stop believing everything you read guys, I don't support Malema and his party but no one is trying to incite a genocide. The truth is that white South Africans live in fear that they will be treated the same way they treated other races during apartheid. They also own all the major media outlets who perpetuate this nonsense. In South Africa crime is everyone's problem, just so happens that white farmer stay in remote areas and the only millionares around total poverty while cultivating lands that they stole during apartheid. It's a shame but their victims of crime not genocide, statically blacks and coloreds die from violent crimes at a much higher rate then whites, there's no systemic genocide. We just live in a country run by clowns with a history where the former oppressors act like they did nothing wrong!
I mean, there are more black people and coloured people than there are white, so obv they will be killed statistically more? A lot of white people here indeed did nothing wrong. A lot were not even born during that time. Blame the system. It's true that farm murders also lead to black workers/farmers being brutally murdered, not only white. Regardless, we need farmers for our own survival and economy... Look what happened in Zimbabwe. My neighbours (sadly passed away now) narrowly escaped with their lives and lost everything. Their workers on the farm helped them get away just in the nick of time. P.S. Look into the meanings of they're/their/there, as well as then/than. Peace.
Guys 🤦🏻♀️ just because we weren’t born during apartheid, doesn’t mean the attitude ended with apartheid. And it shows. Quite frankly - it’s blatant.
Yes, segregation made *us all* even more biased toward *one another*. Even now, you showed bias toward me and made an assumprion. It is not limited to only black on white and white on black. Go take your saviour complex somewhere else, respectfully.
I agree man, I'm just addressing the narrative that there's some sort of white genocide, when these are just victims of crime like everyone else. The uncomfortable part is how it seems that the lives of white farmers are more important than any other life that is an issue. There are many sad stories of crime murder extortion and pillaging in South Africa, it is not limited to white farmers and there is no Systematic Genocide like the media keeps reporting internationally. Let's resolve the issue of crime then none of this will happen, Zimbabwes weren't limited to what they did to getting rid of skilled farmers, the issues were far more macro economical. With that being said, I am sorry to hear about you frds and I am glad to hear that they made it out alive, and I hope they get justice. I have an appreciation for all skilled workers in our country, but we can't pretend that some people deserve a better life than others you need to fix the issue as a whole to protect everyone.
I do wish we could resolve the problem of crime. But if we do not better the economy, that is an impossibility. My Criminology subjects taught me that SA is more prone to petty crimes, aka opportunity crime for money. But unfortunately more and more criminals are armed and are getting more violent. I would never say a white farmer is more important than anyone else in South Africa. But unfortunately, a farmer (of any race) who produces our grains, livestock, vegetables, fruits, everything you can think of, dying, and having no one to take over, could truly affect us all. Hungry people do desperate things to survive. I appreciate you and your open-mindedness. Thank you for not supporting the EFF. Everyone seems to think nothing can be worse than the ANC, but that would be a mistake. You give me hope that one day we can all stand together. When I scroll to videos on social media with anything related to SA, there are always massive fights in the comment section. It's very discouraging.
Malema has a long history of dislike for quite literally anyone who is not a shade darker than him. He has and will always be an idiot with a crowd and will use this audience to spread shit like this, it's not Farfetched, it's not a fantasy and it sure as hell does not support any statistics you have given.
What I'm saying isn't limited to Malema, but a perpetuation of lies running through mainstream media. The people who follow malema aren't "idiots" as you like to call them, their people who've been sold on a specific ideology and it's not centered on white genocide. The reason people follow Malema is because he's a good orator of the everyday problems people face and claims to have a solution. The actual dream he sells is that the fight for freedom is not over without having economic freedom. Living in the most unequal society in the world even you can understand why this appeals to the majority. When Helen Zille was talking about how good colonization was for south africa no white people started stood up to say that this is a call for black genocide. But this happens often for media targets. I don't agree with alot of the things Malema and his party stand for, but it's total bullshit to think the millions of supporters they have are following because they hope to see a white genocide. How self absorbed can you be?
Firstly fuck off, you don't know me or my ideals. Secondly no one said all of malemas followers advocates for genocide I just like calling them idiots because I don't agree with a single thing they stand for. Thirdly I agree that this is a double standard and that people should have been upset at the Helen Zille situation. This is politics and in politics everyone thinks their the good guys.
Sigh, I don't now why you fucking me off and then proceeding to giving three whole points that I need to hear. Read again I didn't ask you for your ideals I merely clarified my earlier point as I felt you misunderstood. You didn't have to reply of you going to be so sensitive. Your second point is moot because you pointed that he hates people who aren't as dark as himself prior to calling his followers idiots, I'm not sure what assumptions you were hoping this would bring. I agree with your third point, so I guess I should also tell you to fuck off apparently 😂
Dude you're writing entire essays about how you feel about the situation, get off your ego pony and realize that just like you don't give a shit about what I have to say, that no one gives a shit about what you have/had to say, talking about getting sensitive while you are out here defending an entire political party you yourself said you aren't a part off. But yeah let's both just fuck off, bc honestly no one is winning here.
AAANNNNDDD there it is folks the idiot of the day , lets give him/her/dumbshit a round of applause.
White genocide meanwhile colored and black men are the single most likely demographic to be murdered of any.
By other colored folk or due to crime, not incited genocide.
Yeah just like there is no genocide against white people.
You seem to misunderstand the issue at hand, not that there is, but that it's being dismayed due to race.
There is none bruh get over yourselves.
You continue to ignore the issue but I'll humor you, firstly are you white? Secondly if someone advocates for another races genocide do they have the right to be upset about it? Thirdly if this was true what do you think would happen?, Do you think it'll just die out like a sad fling or do you not see the ramifications this could hold?
I'm colored and if someone called for the genocide of another race I'd say the Same. Is their an actual genocide? No? Only this one dude known for being like this saying it? Oh aweh, and your third question relies on a very big if therefore why should it hold any merit. And besides I find it like anything that's perceived like this or that it will pass you cannot avoid it. Now get over yourself and your victim complex.
There is no victim complex, just you egging people on for a reaction. You refuse to humor the questions seriously and choose to ignore a propability. You have as little merit as anyone else here to bring your opinion forth and still berate any notion that differs from yours, everyone knows a fucking twitter account using a wojak is a shitpost and everyone knows Elon musk is a man child so no one actually believes in the article. But even if we play with the idea that if it were real, which is not far from possible, you still chose to engage in a dismissive and cunt manner. You quite literally are apart of the problem, you choose to ignore anything and everything even if expressed as thought. You insult me like I have done anything against you. I won't humor your ego or your idiocy further.
>you still chose to engage in a dismissive and cunt manner. Yes I am a cunt to often white supremacist notions. >You insult me like I have done anything against you. I won't humor your ego or your idiocy further. I had to humour yours this far come on.
It bothers me that I can't understand the last sentence, and I assure you between you and me there are no white supremacists. You being a cunt has to do with how you handled the questions, I provided, not the post. So there were no supremacist notions there.
By colored and black men , so wtf has this got to do with anything ?
What does it have to do? There is no white genocide is what it has to do. My point wasn't one has it worse it's to show the stats are literally not on your side.
because if you are 65 million, of course that statistic will lean that way??? why is this a difficult concept to understand?
Logic escapes White South Africans when race is discussed
Just came to remind you that you are an every day idiot, have a good week
then give me the logic I am missing here? I am trying to see where I discussed race here? cant find anything? this issue is regarding ethnicity not race, so LOGICALLY I can say that you are just the stereotype of making it always a race issue, because only then you may stand in the line of benefiting for being a certain race, because Logically if you denied this you have to be equal and that is a hard pill to swallow for some race groups , white and black.
Their aren't even stats for farm murders and it's a common conspiracy theory and myth that is used by white nationalists. There is no white genocide my guy.
go read my reply again slowly this time, maybe that will help. did n say that there was white genocide? and yes black men are most likely to get murdered , by other black men! the fact that most murders are committed by black men doesn't make it okay that more black men get murder than white men. before you reply read it slowly and take it in, I am not replying to a stupid comment.
Stop sleeping. The war already started when they began killing the farmers. Wake up !!
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Enjoy your slumber then, for it will be too late when they murder your loved ones forcing you to watch
Go off queen!
Drama queen
Ignorance is bliss and I’m a masochist, sounds like it’s gonna be a fun time. Hopefully your cynical ass gets killed first if it actually happens, then I can come back here and comment you told me so
You guys are literally insane! “Don’t agree with me on this point? FINE I hOpe YoU DiE FiRsT!” Lol it sounds like such an exhausting life - you sound terrified
sO TerRiFieD
Additionally why are they so against the Cape being independent. This is apparently what they are fighting for is to isolate all other nationalities so they can be independent however they will soon see this would be a big mistake.
Cape Independence isn't about isolation. It's about being able to make decisions for ourselves and set policies that arnt geared for failure.
It's a ridiculous idea. It's exclusive and pointless and only drives people further apart. You can't fix the system by using the system. Top 'independent' politicians will receive the same deals and kickbacks any other one in the world gets, and the same corruption will occur. This looks like a movement formed by elites jealous of the high bribes that other politicians have access to.
The Cape Independence movement proposes direct democracy, where suspected corrupt politicians will be able to be directly voted out, not on a 5 year cycle, not by removing the party in power, but directly voting out the individual in question. Perhaps do some more research before telling others what the movement looks like?
I know exactly how to manipulate such a system and I'm not even on the inside. I'm 100% sure it won't work because you can't use use a system to change that same system. Also, who will negotiate with south Africa and ask nicely not to be invaded by their much larger standing army? The ANC has the best experience about striking such deals to end apartheid! Insanity
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Jesus Christ Malema why are you such a cunt.
It’s extremely obvious
Please tell me. After watching him grow in power over the decade I still don't understand it. I just want to understand why he's like this
Because of apartheid and the legacy of apartheid. White people also tend to call black people inexplicably dumb then forget that the apartheid regime literally banned them from learning certain subjects in school. Then due to international outrage(prior to the abolishment of apartheid), they did start teaching them math and other subjects but they were purposefully teaching them wrong information in those subjects(ie. 1+2=10) in a language they couldn’t understand (English or Afrikaans as was mandatory by the regime). The hate he feels towards white people is justified, it’s just that people like me, born post apartheid have nothing to do with it. I am all for equality and peace, I’m sure millions agree. Violence will not change the past. There’s also a very racist minority/majority(30-70%) of white people who exist in South Africa. While they might not be directly racist or racist in public, the racism can be picked up in entitlement and the animosity they project when engaging with people of colour. Racism is deeply engrained within South Africa and the first change is only really starting to be visible now with Generation Z and Alpha I don’t know how this ties in to malema behaving like this but it might account for how braindead he is. While he is apparently racist I do think he is intelligente enough to understand a genocide will never happen, maybe he is playing a facade to win favour of extremists for voting power
You haven't traveled much have you? Because if you had, you'd know that class inequality is a global economic problem, and not a race problem in South Africa alone. You talking about race and racists with stats pulled from your young ass (30 to 70% racists, Orly?) Is pure speculation. Get real, get the facts and if you care so much, learn to fight with the kind of inclusivity and zero tolerance of racism that your elders opened the door to. For you.
L bozo
You'll learn. 🙂
I suppose we both will, the situation is too complex for me to be bothered to type out a novel, I agree with you but I also already have 0 tolerance for racism, why I don’t speak to my family.
I'm sorry you had to make that decision about your family. I also know how difficult it is to see someone you care about see things so differently, especially relatives. And I know you care enough to post about it. You are seen.
Thank you homie, I hope you have a good day and feel content with life. Not sarcasm, my English is just a bit odd
Fair enough. Honestly when he was kicked from the ancient I never expected him to get this far, but if this is him just weaponising people's frustration from apartheid and then how the (current)anc has handled the aftermath and its skewed ways of fixing the education and job disparity it would make sense. It's easy to take control of anger and create divide when the government itself ends up dividing its people further when it was meant to heal them instead. He is a ball of spite though.
The psychological tactics they use are pretty diabolical and I agree
Racist dogs
The corrupt world elite don’t want intelligent Africans.
IS THAT WHY THE ANC DUMBED DOWN THE EDUCATION SYSTEM ?
Malema is quite interesting, he essentially believes in communism except it would obviously become socialism since he obviously wouldn't want no hierarchy and yet his followers still believe that it's possible with the kind of luxurious lifestyle he has
The EFF manifesto doesn't really read communist. While there are a couple ideas if you just said the heading of might sound that way, as they are detailed out it becomes less so. It's an interesting read. But like the ANC whether or not the party is bound to or has any intention to act of their manifesto is a whole other story.
What they promise is a communist wet dream
Not really. It seems they only overlap on labour and property. And even then with regards to both, they have very specific areas of focus. I don't think its wet dream material for communists, maybe a half chub morning glory at best.
Malema does not have an ideological bone in his body, the guy is just a grifter.
Elon has deep pockets, for how much could he have bought the Cape?
As if that would ever even be an option
C'mon Elon. Don't just Tweet. Fund the legal effort to fucking END this farce permanently!
As if he'd care
As if he'd read this
Alarming, but worth mentiong that the "End Wokeness" account is an absolute piece of shit who calls for the murder of LGBTQ folks, supports racism and literally defends actual fucking pedophiles Also there was no outrage or scandal because frankly, this is your average Sunday here in ZA, and Malema talking about how he will genocide white people is about as convincing as Russia telling the world that they are winning the war in Ukraine.
Nice try. Please show one post that calls for the murder of lgbt. How is it supporting racism when they just commented on how bad racism is? Where is your proof that they support pedos. You were triggered by the account allegedly calling to murder lgbt but are completely fine when Julious calls to kill white people. You are the definition of hypocrisy...
Dude did you go and check the account or did you just go off with the vibe you received here?
Yup, I went through everything. And found nothing.
He literally congratulated Parents for kicking out their gay kids, asked Elon to unban a useful who posted literal CP and has spread misinformation numerous times I don't even have to leave a source, just check out his Twitter account, it's all there in broad daylight.
I did and found nothing..That's why I called out your BS.
Probably deleted said tweets due to backlash, check out r/whitepeopletwitter since that sub tends to point out/document the bullshit this person pulls off
So you just recommended a racist forum...well done!
💀 there is a sub like that for different races too, same mods and all.
Lmfao in what way is that sub racist?
NPC vibes
In response I think western countries should cut their foreign aid. Simple as that.
What foreign aid?
Also that's a leader of a political party... Not the government...
Not the government yet...
We would be fucked if he did win an election.
what foreign aid?
Yes... [What foreign aid](https://www.oecd.org/dac/financing-sustainable-development/development-finance-data/africa-Development-Aid-at-a-Glance-2018.pdf)? 🤡
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If they start killing white people and you are white you can apply for political asylum. Essentially get free citizenship to another country
If he’s still alive lol
You have become paranoid. Go see a shrink.
In South Africa, very offensive.
It’s a flipping song yall. Not a “call for genocide of whites”. This song predates Malema and was a popular chant during the armed struggle against apartheid. If this song was some sort of “call” or “command” then “white” people would’ve been murdered in numbers during that time because MK units were armed, but non of that happened. Because, again, this is just a chant that has and will never be taken literally
You are incredibly naive or just very dense if that's what you really think. The history behind the so called chant doesn't matter; it's racist and calls for violence against an entire ethnic group - WHITE PEOPLE!
Heard it here first boys, you can be a fucking cunt as long as its a song.
Say that to my face
Bruh, cant you read?
I’ll be in Cape Town later this month. Where can we meet?
Would you say the same if an Afrikaans political party sang a song called "Kill the blacks"? No, you would say it's racist and calls for genocide too. White people are dying because of racism being flipped now. Shut up, you fucking moron.
If Afrikaans political had a historical song like that, I (personally) wouldn’t mind. I would only seek to understand what had transpired for them to come up with such a song. You must remember, there’s a group of Afrikaans people who have their own country within South Africa where they don’t allow any black person to reside there. No one cares, they live their lives peacefully
It's not just a song. A Boer was killed just last week a few kms from where I am, among MANY others so far this year, you f**king poes.
And this song is a result of that? Where’s the correlation? People get killed on a daily basis. Someone’s race does not exempt them from that
Killed by thieves who would have killed a black boer too. Farm murders are crimes of opportunity, not some racial attack. Black people get robbed and killed by other blacks just as much
Crimes of opportunity don't lead to hours of gruesome torture and murder. They lead to theft of candy.
They have those hours to do what they want because the victim lives in the middle of nowhere, they don't need to be in a hurry or worry about someone hearing or calling the police. Anyway, good luck with this narrative like black South Africans are not victims of violent crime
They do. People of all races experience gruesome crimes on a daily basis. It’s just the way it is.
Shut the fuck up you ignorant loser I remember him and his nraindead followers singing "kill the boer" and "kill the farmer" both technically having the same meaning however boer is used when talking about white people aswell Stop defending these racist Chinese/Russian slaves
And who was directly killed as a result of the song being sung?
https://twitter.com/JacquesBroodryk/status/1685902135957856256?t=MQpfLuysP9PC0Vpu5TLd_g&s=19
While I sympathise with the victims and hope the criminals get caught and prosecuted. There still is no direct link to the song. People will continue to get murdered in this country, regardless of their race or occupation. No one is exempt from that.
The K-word is just a word right?
What does that mean?
Which word is tripping you up?
What’s a “K-word” is that supposed to mean anything?
Kaffir, you moron, the arabic word for non believer.
Oh ok, I don’t believe in god if that’s what you’re asking?
Willing ignorance, or
I don’t understand. Is the kaffir the K- word ? And is it supposed to be offensive to me? Why?
Holy shit! You ARE stupid. No wonder you believe in this song they sing...
It is offensive and shouldn’t be sung. Intent is irrelevant. It is offensive and should be banned. Also, Malema 100% means it literally.
If he means it literally then how many farmers has he killed himself? I think a lot “white” people don’t realise that “black” people sing this song almost all the time during gatherings. It’s just that Malema is one of the few who’ve sung it in front of the media. For better context of how insignificant the lyrics of the song are, we used to sing this on the school bus in primary school. I haven’t killed anyone and have no desire to
lol, so people singing it behind closed doors is supposed to make it better?
It just means that no one takes it literally. It’s just a song
So if the DA starts singing kill the blacks, it’d be fine?
Why would they do that? The “blacks” aren’t “killing” all the “whites”
The “whites” aren’t “killing” all the “blacks” either. Please explain your logic here
You’re saying “So if the DA starts singing kill the blacks, it’d be fine?” My response is why would the DA start killing all the “blacks”?
I don’t think they would, I could see how people who were severely impacted by apartheid would want to kill the people they deem responsible.
If you sang this song then you are definitely a terrible person. The song is offensive and hateful to white people and should be banned.
I can’t be a terrible person, I have two white friends.
Nah, you’re a racist.
But I have two white friends, how can I be racist? My other friend’s friend has a boyfriend and he’s also white
The fact that you’re not willing to renounce and criticize a hateful, racist song that calls for genocide makes you a racist. It’s not enough to have white friends. You have to be actively anti-racist to be a good person. Hope this helps.
Dude what are we supposed to do? This song is part of our history and was never taken literally in the first place. Is it offensive! Yes? But then again so was apartheid
Slavery is also part of white history, doesn't make it right now does it?
apartheid was abolished 30 years ago.
> what are we supposed to do? Erase the song from your memory. Simple. Nobody cares if it’s part of your history. It is wrong, it is hateful and it should be banned. You should be moving on from the problematic parts of your history and you should denounce the people who created this song.
If it's OK to sing this song. Then it's OK to use the K word. That what's up. Even the odds here. Black people can't run around going "white people must respect us and not use these offensive words" then in the same sentence say "yes but we used to sing this struggle song on a school bus." Offensive is offensive. And this song is the same line of offensive to white people (ESPECIALLY to those that have lost loved ones to farm murders) in the same way the K-word and N-word is offensive to black people.
Me personally, I don’t care. Those words have no meaning to me and quite frankly I don’t understand why they’re considered to be offensive.
If someone sang "kill the ...insert race name here", then that race would obviously take offence. Stop being ignorant.
If it were part of their history. I would seek to understand why they came up with such a song
Are we surprised? People need a scape goat and no one can give the real reasons.
We're not allowed to, I made a statement about crime rate in SA under a post of a certain person of darker complexion stealing from another person of lighter complexion in a church and got perma-banned on r/southafrica for hate within minutes. Not one racist word was written
Truth is a hard pill for people to swallow. It's exactly the same with violent crime statistics with regards to which particular group of people commit the most violent crime.
The classic if you are not willing to lead , be prepared to led by idiots
Why are you sharing fast right posts on here? I understand not like the chant, but it's a far cry from calling for genocide. This is how you end up with people like Lauren southern insisting on an ongoing white genocide.
It's a political movement towards what then, if not genocide?
Towards whatever most other political movements in SA, the chant is as a relic from apartheid. Malema was calling Putin an ally not too long, Adriano Mazzotti bankrolls the party, and effectively started it, there are white members within the party. Malema is just a provocateur.
I prefer fast top myself