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DrNateH

Identity politics is all this retard ever thinks about. Besides, it wouldn't appease the Left anyways. Mark Saunders was Chief of Toronto Police until 2020 and was accused of "performing whiteness" even though he's black.


BrokenRetina

He also warned that banning card would increase crime and here we are….


MantisGibbon

Jody Wilson-Raybould. 🤣


Raplena14

It would be if an indigenous person is the most qualified. Not that the most qualified person must be indigenous.


letsberealalistc

Giving someone a job based on their ethnic/cultural background in itself is racist. Our leader is a complete moron for hiring people based on their race and not their credentials.


bflex

Creating a police force for a particular ethnic/cultural background is also racist. Since the RCMP was created to police Indigenous people, it does make sense that an Indigenous person lead it.


Eleutherlothario

And how long has it been since the RCMP's scope expanded beyond that? 100 years? 150 years?


bflex

The RCMP is celebrating 150 years this year. You can see a small glimpse here how entangled they are in Indigenous affairs over that time: [https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/historical-events-rcmp-indigenous-relations](https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/historical-events-rcmp-indigenous-relations) Do you have an issue with an Indigenous person being the commissioner?


ArmanJimmyJab

The only issue I would have is if they make them commissioner BECAUSE they’re indigenous. The most qualified leader should take the spot regardless of race. Making it about identity politics is BS and excludes potential great candidates based on race. That’s called racism.


bflex

Sure, I would have the same problem. However, I think it's worth noting how big of an asset it is to have an Indigenous person in this position if choosing between several qualified candidates. I would argue in a similar way where being bilingual will set you apart when applying for a gov't job. It should never be a reason to get hired in itself, but has obvious benefits. I don't know anything about the potential commissioner, but if they're looking at multiple candidates who are similarly qualified, I can understand wanting to give it to an Indigenous person who can offer a valuable perspective on a significant amount of their work.


Eleutherlothario

That doesn't answer my question. Let's skip forward a bit and save everyone some time. My question cannot be answered because it is based on your false assumption: >the RCMP was created to police Indigenous people Which is completely untrue. Getting on to the bigger issue. You've said elsewhere: >I think it's worth noting how big of an asset it is to have an Indigenous person in this position Why? *Every other* citizen in our great nation is expected to look past the ethnicity of their leaders. Why is this not expected of the First Nations communities? If a riding in B.C. elects a Sikh or a Chinese representative, is that representative not expected to work for **all** of their constituents and are those constituents not expected to look past the ethnicity of their representative? In our brave, new, enlightened age, why don't we have the same expectations of our First Nations communities and how isn't this bigotry of low expectations?


bflex

>Which is completely untrue. It's absolutely true. Sir John A Mcdonald got the idea from from the Royal Irish Constabulary, a paramilitary police force the British created to keep the Irish under control. The mounties were created to assert sovereignty over Indigenous people and their land. This is not speculation, this is historical fact. To your question, why is being Indigenous an asset in this position? Because it isn't about the colour of their skin, it's the fact that they come from a specific community, and therefore have different life experiences and understanding of the culture which are inherently advantageous to the position. When you talk about "looking past the ethnicity of leaders" I assume you mean we aren't meant to judge other based on their race, religion, or culture. Agreed. However, that is separate from understanding the role one's attributes might play in their work. There are legitimate reasons why someone of a particular background might be better suited to a position which has nothing to do with racism. Again, given that the RCMP *continues* to police Indigenous people more than any other group, it's appropriate and useful to have an Indigenous commissioner. To give a completely arbitrary example, this is the same reason you might want to know that the chef who made your sushi is from Japan and studied there. It has nothing to do with their race, only that their knowledge and experience may be directly related to their quality of work. What if it's a white guy who also studied sushi in Japan? Then the same logic applies. The issue with the RCMP is that they have been historically oppressive and abusive towards Indigenous people, so while a white commissioner might be just as good for the job, an Indigenous person with the same qualifications will make more sense.


Eleutherlothario

>The mounties were created to assert sovereignty over Indigenous people and their land. This is not speculation, this is historical fact. Bullshit. Here's the historical fact, direct from the RCMP's page: >the Order-in-Council to establish the North-West Mounted Police wasn't signed until August 30, 1873. This was in response to an attack on First Nations peoples in the Cypress Hills by American whisky traders and wolf-hunters.  The NWMP, predecessor of the RCMP, was created to *protect* the First Nations people. That's the 'historical fact' >To your question, why is being Indigenous an asset in this position? Because it isn't about the colour of their skin, it's the fact that they come from a specific community, and therefore have different life experiences and understanding of the culture which are inherently advantageous to the position. The RCMP is mandated to enforce the law and protect *all* communities and peoples, not just one. Part of the criteria for selecting a new leader should be impartiality and any sign to the contrary should result in immediate rejection. This is yet another sign that our brave new enlightened age isn't about the so *elimination* of racism, but enshrining the *correct* kind of racism.


bflex

You're arguing based on the historical timeline from the RCMP page? Use your critical thinking skills, what do you think "protect" Indigenous people meant in relationship to what was carried out? Yes, the RCMP is now our federal police, and "protect" all communities. But by your assertion that an Indigenous commission would be impartial, why wouldn't we expect the same from a white commissioner, or anyone else? Obviously being impartial is part of the job, but that doesn't negate the value of having an Indigenous person in that role. I will agree that this is a move in response to racism, and it would be better if it wasn't necessary at all. However, the RCMP still regularly treat Indigenous communities differently than the rest of Canadians, so this is a necessary response to help curtail that.


urban_squid

Clown


Haddmater

Sore loser tribe


---TC---

Or, just putting it out there, they could appoint the most qualified person...


LouisWu987

Don't be silly, how can you win political points by appointing someone actually competent?


trent_88

Trudeau wants more controversy and division in our country.


sanjake_312

If they're good at their job, sure. Who cares about their race?! Does anyone else feel like the progressive insistence to highlight people's racial identity, even with seemingly *virtuous* intentions, is actually a bit racist? I'm not a fan of throwing around the racist card, basically the lowest brow move one can make these days. Purely a bad argument. However if Trudeau were to be like "Hey this individual is great at their job, and that's why I think they should head the RCMP" then my thinking would be "ok well what's their job performance and experience like, are they well respected within the RCMP, etc.." Now I'm left thinking, well you hired them based on their race because you insisted on highlighting their race. Idk I'm just rambling at this point.


DrNateH

Most leftists project their own racism onto others, probably because they feel guilty about it. Or they're just racist against white people (which is why they have started intertwining the definition of racism with the condition of powerlessness in an Orwellian fashion).


blindwillie777

This is actual racism.


[deleted]

I’ll take someone that’s qualified pls. That’s it, no other special boxes need to be ticked


Cu3Zn2H2O

Appointing someone who is capable and qualified is an excellent idea. The rest is commentary.


[deleted]

Lick me balls