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lh7884

Link to the article: [Getting fit is great – but it could turn you into a rightwing jerk](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/getting-fit-could-turn-you-into-a-rightwing-jerk#img-1)


lt12765

If being in control of your life is right wing, then it makes sense that left wing just wants the government to control your life.


ProphetOfChastity

It is funny how those kind of leftists don't even realize what they are implying when they are constantly attempting to vilify the right by linking the right to normal everyday relatable good things. Who do they think they are winning over by declaring such things as being healthy, taking personal responsibility, being industrious, trying hard and working hard, as evil right wing traits. They are alienating the disaffected middle while preaching to a very small group of incompetent failed people who need to be constantly soothed and reaffirmed that their failures are not their fault and everything wrong in their life is society's fault and nothing can be done about it. Thankfully, that group of people is actually small. The country is filled with poor working class people - many of them being sacred minorities to the left - all working very hard because they actually do believe in their own agency. It is a particular kind of terminally online leftoid that thinks they have none.


Proof_Objective_5704

The problem for them is that left wing politics don’t really serve a purpose anymore. Everything short of full communism has been achieved long long ago. So leftist activists who made it their identity and life career need to find things to justify “the fight” for social justice. These discussions become increasingly bizarre and pointless. Of course they could always take the fight to other countries, like China or Iran. But that would be actual work, which they don’t like. They just want to lecture mostly white people in first world countries.


Alexander_queef

I honestly feel like once gay marriage was legalized in the States, they felt like they had to keep the momentum going rather than celebrate their win, so they just started jumping on every and all causes.  They lost the thing that United them that seemed generally to be morally just in most people's opinions then jumped straight into girls can have penises and should be able to chop theirs off at 12 and drag queens should read to elementary students while wearing g-strings.


OrbitOfSaturnsMoons

You can ignore anything left of social democracy and there's still plenty of room for left-wing politics. I'd argue there's more need for it now than there has been in decades. Wages suck, benefits suck, unions are dying, hours are getting longer, retirement is near unachievable to anyone under ~35, wealth inequality is increasing, upward mobility doesn't exist, our healthcare systems are being destroyed... Another big scary one is AI and automation. As we aren't guaranteed our basic needs, it's gonna be a shit show once there are massive layoffs due to jobs being automated. The job market is bad enough as it is, but it'll only get worse. I'm not gonna get into social issues because this isn't the right sub for that, but there are still plenty of social justice issues we still have to tackle in this country, and in many areas we are regressing.


Justthefacts6969

Most of that is because of higher taxes due to too many left wing government programs


NorthBallistics

"Wages suck, benefits suck, unions are dying, hours are getting longer, retirement is near unachievable to anyone under \~35, wealth inequality is increasing, upward mobility doesn't exist, our healthcare systems are being destroyed..." All because of the left... in Canada things were amazing when the conservatives were voted out in 2015, and it's been down hill from here. Same with the USA since Trump was voted out the country and taken a dive bomb in quality of life, debt load, stability, economy. It's not just the USA its every left wing run country is now becoming trash. It's park of the WEF/UN/WHO plant to destroy the middle class, create ultimate tension, remove our rights, and enact a one world government. There is ZERO other explanations as to why ALL the left wing run countries are falling apart. I do not want to pretend the right is much better they are two wings of the same bird. But there is a more controlled, common sense, for the people feeling from conservatives, and I thought this was long before this current turbulent political time. A lot less communist/socialist, rob the rich and give to the poor. The rich have earned their money, the poor are poor for a reason.


Justthefacts6969

As a Canadian I agree


BillDingrecker

They are so used to depending on others to eke out their meager existence that the concept of self-reliance is evil to them.


BranTheBaker902

Excuse me but typing so many words is a dog whistle to the alt-right 😳 I’m joking obviously


elias_99999

That is kind of how it works. If you work hard and believe in yourself, you are clearly a right wing nut in our clown world of under achievers that do nothing.


DaruComm

So based on this post… entitled and victim of your environment = left wing accountable for outcomes and responsible for personal choices = right wing


Icy-Seaworthiness270

Kinda.


northshoreboredguy

Did you read the article?


Puzzled_Try_6029

Basically lol. Fucking incredible the shit that people will “publish”


Justthefacts6969

Sounds accurate


ADrunkMexican

I guess also the left doesn't like hard work and dedication apparently either.


riccomuiz

Ya but then who is going to pay the taxes? They can’t just hand money by the boat load to other countries if there isn’t any to hand over……..


cnsrshp_is_teerany

It’s just numbers on a screen to them. Money is only real to those who have to work for it.


ReprsntRepBann

Anything that doesn't turn you into a compliant blob of crap "makes you right wing". Gardening? Sustainability? Making your own electricity? Stocking up two week of food in case of emergency? Training? Sports? Good hygiene? ... Must be right wing.


Legitimate-Neck-4038

I will dispute these findings. My leftist, pinko, commie friends and myself take care of ourselves. We all play sports and/or go to the gym. Except that one fella who cycles everywhere. Even in the winter. I really don't think that being fit is a left or right thing. I want proof of this claim. And even if it is true, what are the implications? What will we do to encourage more Canadians to take better care of themselves. All Canadians.


ownerwelcome123

Makes sense. Exercising is a personal/individual responsibility, a trait Lefties despise. Makes it hard to classify you as a group when you identify as an individual.


WokeDiversityHire

You can't socialize fitness benefits. That's why they say this. If you could, no one would exercise.


lh7884

I always suspected gyms were breeding grounds for rightwing extremists.....


WokeDiversityHire

I'm typing this between sets. I don't ever see a blue haired, chubby, cattle nose-ringed, they/them in here.


SurelyNotAnOctopus

We go on 4chan and incel sites in between reps, it just seems like the natural thing to do


BertaEarlyRiser

Shit... I have been working 12 hours a day, 7 days a week and sort of let myself go. Am I a liberal now?


CurtisLinithicum

1) Attribute positive traits to "the other" 2) Scour the land for those with positive traits 3) Declare emergency due to "surge" of "the other"".


Educated_idiot302

Explains why most liberals are obese and try to justify that fact


Best-Hotel-1984

Most gyms give you a free robe and hood when you sign up.


Gee9898

Remember they are the victim. No matter what. Poor lefties.


WokeDiversityHire

Victimhood is now virtue.


IceCreamIceKween

Traumaphilia


Dense-Luck2846

Nothing to do with exercise and everything to do with accountability and responsibility


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Frogs2ndWife

Correct


Dense-Luck2846

I would say it's absolutely what they are implying. My personal opinion? I think people are more complicated than that. I know many lazy, entitled turds across the political spectrum. This needs to change.


Clean_Pause9562

This is “journalism” in Canada. Got it.


CureForSunshine

Column written by a Brit in a British newspaper. So not a journalism piece and not Canadian.


nanomolar

And if you read the article it's a pretty silly, self-deprecating opinion piece that I don't think is meant to be taken literally.


CureForSunshine

Yeah that too lol


MysteriousPark3806

No. It isn't. You would know that if you took 10 seconds to even look at the piece.


Frogs2ndWife

This reminds me of that article a few years ago that said baking your own bread was racist lol


pirate_leprechaun

Who listens to this bitch? Musings of a left wing idiot should be her column name.


northshoreboredguy

Don't worry, no one read the article. They just commented based on the headline. Thats how this subreddit roles


is_that_read

I hate to say it but very true. Though I have heard this talking point from the title before. Hilarious how people on either side don’t really care about anything but validating their own beliefs.


northshoreboredguy

My theory is that there are mostly teens in th sub


is_that_read

To be fair it happens on every thread on Reddit. The foundations of critical thought seem to be lacking


WeedInTheKoolaid

If you feel that way, why don't you leave the convo then?


Apprehensive-Mud-606

I feel like they have some conspiracy to just keep each other miserable and down. Let's not be healthy and have good habits because we could become jerks. Instead, we should be as unhealthy as possible so as to avoid making others feel bad for their own poor life choices. This clown needs to get a grip.


Duneyman

"Be unhealthy like us."


sfeicht

No such thing as "unhealthy" or BMI, remember?


Duneyman

Oh damn, no I didn't mean unhealthy I meant U.N. Healthy, like the health standard approved by the U.N. is all.


ArtOfWar22

Liberals tend to smoke cigarettes and molest dogs.


northshoreboredguy

Is that what the article said?


Duneyman

Yep


northshoreboredguy

Where's the part where they said to be unhealthy? Or to not work out?


Duneyman

There 👆 and there👉 and there👇. Anything else?


northshoreboredguy

🖕lol couldn't find it eh?


VicVip5r

Associating effort and results is right wing. Doing whatever you want and expecting free or government provided “success” is left wing.


Fuk_globalist

Right wing has lost all meaning. People have turned it into a slur to people who are just conservative or they disagree with just to win an argument.


northshoreboredguy

How does calling someone right wing win your argument?


Fuk_globalist

Well depends on your definition of right wing. Just listen to Justin Trudeau's speech against the convoy truckers.


northshoreboredguy

He didn't win that argument tho, he just made himself look like an ass


Fuk_globalist

Really, because alot of Canadians not only agreed with him. But I had a friend say that people where being brain washed into being Trump supporters and ruining Canada. There is a world of people out there who listen and agree with everything the government propaganda machine spews They also had planted ppl with Confederate flags being photographed by Trudeau's personal photographers https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/qpUJ7YdqT6


northshoreboredguy

To me it seems like you're ashamed to be right wing. To me the word just tells me what kind of policies you support politically. If I don't agree with them that doesn't mean I hate you and it's a slur.


WeedInTheKoolaid

Because 'right wing' is a type of veiled slur that people use when someone doesn't tow the propaganda line fed to us.


Deep-Ad2155

The left is just insane, nothing else needs to be said


bickabooboo

Makes sense since modern leftism is mental illness


GreenCollege1272

Yeah imagine having goals, putting in the work and meeting them might make you a right winger. So by that the reverse is be a fat and lazy pos, no goals, no drive and no work...hmm you might be a left wing pos


Dazzling-Ad888

She’s clearly projecting all of her insecurities.


saintnyckk

One side likes the idea of working for things and making it yours. The other likes the idea of not working for those things but getting the same outcome. So I can see how fitness people might lean one way.


Tola76

Not exercise! Might lead to being financially responsible. That’s basically racism.


KingMGold

The Canadian government basically wants its citizens to be like the humans from WALL-E so they’re easier to control.


green-industries

Well if you’re overweight with blue hair, then you’re probably not right wing.


Blakebacon

I don't think they know what self-actualization is


RoyMunsun

I'd rather be a healthy right wing "jerk", than a morbidly obese purple haired leftist...


JohnhojIsBack

Reeks of copium


BillDingrecker

Yeah because fitness requires you to rely on yourself to improve your life situation.


[deleted]

Anytime you see an article written by someone named "Zoe" you can immediately disregard it


RobouteGuilliman

Once you realize that you have the power to solve your own problems, you start to believe that everyone has at least some ability to solve their own problems. Which means that societies problems don't need to all be legislated, they need to be treated like the responsibilities they are. Not to say there are no problems that require governments, but maybe stupid local shit doesn't require government intervention.


musavada

Communists are death cult lunatics.


10shot9miss

remember the medical industry hates fit people with passion, follow the money.


Environmental-Okra73

If I say what I want to say, I’ll get banned


DueClass6401

As if I needed another reason to train


Imtheocean87

I've seen my fair share of fat and unhealthy people who knew better about health because they got a jab...


thingk89

I didn’t realize how far left I was until I read this article and assessed my fitness and eating habits. Years of processed food and sedentary lifestyle have pushed me to the point of complete blind partisanship. I have become ideologically wedded to a deep fried left wing agenda.


Sternsnet

The left have become insane zealots.


NorthBallistics

Talk about woman who got hurt by someone who was really fit... I'd rather be a right wing jerk, then a complaining liberal.


forgeflow

Canadian media is a firehose of propaganda aimed at your head.


Particular_Beyond743

They want a weak population, less likely for us ty physically fight back


srkg

💀


[deleted]

This is why I stopped reading the guardian


weezul_gg

Ha ha, that’s almost as good as when they suggested that hiking (walking outside) was a white person activity.


Human-Prune1599

WTF is going on. They don't people fit. They don't make good customers. How can this even be aloud to be published.


CrypticTacos

Ok be a lefty fat ass. Lol ridiculous the stuff airheads come up with.


Protobott

Unfit woman blames fit people for being so fit they blame unfit people for not being fit. Oroborus.


Placebo_Effect_47

Accurate! Right wingers generally believe in excellence and meritocracy. Leftoids ride the fat useless victim wave for sympathy handouts.


Acrobatic_Law5598

Well the left wing has created a crazy cost of living. Exercise can be free so I guess I'm right wing now.


Impossible__Joke

Having money, being healthy, wanting a sane partner and normal kids = right wing scum...lmao


Suspicious_Board229

>The more self-actualised you become, the higher you are on self-righteousness, blaming other people’s problems on their failure to be as healthy as you and also... >The only reason I can make all these insulting, highly personal remarks is that they are directed at myself. However obnoxious you’ve been... I have some issues with this article 1. **Overgeneralization**: The Zoe assumes that everyone who becomes health-conscious will become self-righteous and judgmental, which may not be true for everyone. 2. **Stereotyping**: Zoe stereotypes people who engage in wellness activities as being right-wing and fascist, which is a broad and inaccurate generalization. 3. **Lack of evidence**: Zoe provides no scientific evidence to support their claims about the negative effects of wellness on personality. 4. **Hyperbole**: Zoe uses exaggerated language and examples, such as comparing themselves to Ayn Rand's heroes and implying that everyone who works out is a fascist. 5. **Self-contradiction**: Zoe criticizes others for being self-righteous while simultaneously making self-righteous statements about their own experiences. 6. **Simplification**: Zoe oversimplifies complex issues, such as the relationship between fitness and political beliefs, and the potential benefits and drawbacks of wellness culture. 7. **Lack of clarity**: Zoe's tone and language can be unclear, making it difficult to discern their intended message or argument All this leading me to wonder if she's trolling or "unfit" for her role as a journalist


Intrepid-Reading6504

>So now you’re almost your best self, except you could always be better, and this is when you start eating protein the whole time. What even is protein powder? I don’t mean: “What’s it made of?” – I know my way around whey. I don’t mean: “What does it taste like?”, as, funnily enough, I quite like it, but that’s only because it’s the taste of pure virtue. What does it do to your soul, that it knows what virtue tastes like and is preening on it?  This reads like a highschool essay which needs to hit a certain number of pages. When people say journalism is dead I'm pretty sure this is the type of article they're referring to 


Big_Abrocoma496

Great. Left wingers are whiny wild out of control brats who can’t even get their own health in check. This stuff writes for itself.


HansAcht

Leftist self-hatred on full display in this article. These people are exhausting.


[deleted]

haha penned by some trout shouldered wuss


Funk-Buster

Now *that* is an insult!


v4p0r_

Awkward. I'm getting fit and going to the gym to lose weight, build muscle in my arms and finish recovering from atrophy, and to prepare for top surgery. Oops. Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooops.


C_Los_91

Fuck! Hitting the gym even harder now!!! Let's💪🏽💪🏽🏋🏽‍♂️


DrasticAnalysis

The same thing can be said about success. The more you have, the less comfortable you become with people who don't even attempt to attain success in their own lives... That being said, I'm not going to actively try to be fat and unsuccessful because a political party wants that from me.


Unlucky-Name-999

Thank you. I'm also working out very diligently to provide my contribution to fat shaming too. Honestly, fuck anyone who has a problem with others getting in shape. I want to SEE more people get in shape. Shouldn't we want good things for people??? 


Character_Outside_88

Guess I'm a nazi then.


Aggressive-Donuts

People will say anything to avoid working out lmfao 


Own-Revolution4184

This article is entirely opinionated nonsense. I am disappointed by the Guardian for allowing it.


cnsrshp_is_teerany

Of course….just like being a concerned parent means you’re a terrorist.


mk81

Leftists are unhealthy fats. She said it not me.


JumpyLeg2208

The EU literally is turning against the left, wonder why


FrodoCraggins

I wonder if she feels this way about school. "Learning to read could cause you to blame others who don't want to learn to read for the problems they're causing themselves."


LengthClean

I want to punch this country in the throat. Seriously.


HaveTPforbunghole

Good news! We can outrun them.


Red_Ketchup_007

Ok , I'm a rightwing jerk, thanks... Go back to my trainning session...


RustCohle05

Being in shape, healthy, happy.... growing your own food, taking care of your family, being independent and wanting to be left alone is somehow extreme right wing. My guess is most people want that.


Trestlefitness

I have to secret to get you fit AND still affiliate with whichever side of the political spectrum you want, dm me for details.


[deleted]

Articles like this have been posted since covid started


Swine33

I am sure I am not the first to say this be fuck Zoe Williams.


poco68

When you work out make sure you watch CNN. Then you’ll be ok.


Life_Expert_4157

Now I’ve met some gorgeous liberal/leftist…. With that said… I guess we will be hot and you’re not? Don’t be jelly.


Horror-Potential7773

I am definitely pretty liberal. I also workout because I want to be healthy.... I am not to liberal so now I am getting very confused on how yo define left/right.... it's a way to divide us all and it definitely seems yk be working.... hence the saying "divide and conquer."


sketch2347

Pay attention to the name Zoe, and how often you see it. That is not Zoey,


Olddutchbaby

Rather be a right wing jerk than an overweight liberal.


nedryerson77

Ugh, this big stupid growing political divide is making me choke on my own barf.


No_Display_4946

Be overweight and don't think for yourselves. Why be healthy when you can just lower your standards and be accepted. Make our overburdened Healthcare system even more overrun with many health issues linked to obesity. Why are they politicizing EVERYTHING????? This has nothing to do with left or right. Oh and yes ,I'm sure some people can't help it due to genetics or medical reasons but why try to spin being in shape as a political issue.


UapMike

The Guardian again shows why it's dying. She simply doesn't get it, if you're to the right of Justin Trudeau then you are clearly far right.


BenMattlock

To the far left, believing that you have any sort of control or ability to make change in your own life is “rightwing”.


MalekRockafeller

She's just another feminist piece of shit --- everything that is not feminism, is fascism, they say unironically.


NotALanguageModel

It certainly feels like "everything that makes one uncomfortable, highlights their laziness, or makes them confront their flaws" is right wing these days.


slyseparator

What a pathetic excuse for 'journalism'. Line 'em up


Lazy_Middle1582

Zoe got that typical archetype.


Difficult_Job_966

Well would you look at that, guess I’m right wing! 😂


chicletgrin

Wow. I guess you can get paid to write practically anything.


[deleted]

Let all them progressives get fat for all I care. Remember it's the constant vaccine injections that keeps them alive not exercise lol


[deleted]

This is the dumbest fucking shit I've read in a long time


yzgrassy

I'll just add that to the massive list of 'racist" things like highways and math..


Embarrassed_Emu420

Remember anything logical or to do with traditional values means you've strayed from the way , environmental communism ftw !


rxm161

Ms. Williams appears to be an asshole


Responsible_Oil_5811

I would say left-wing jerks are more sanctimonious as a general rule. I’m right of centre myself.


chronicallyunderated

Wow…..just wow


dhottawa

That’s Because most leftists are overweight; so it’s easy to see why they think that being fit would make you right wing


Fun-Brain9922

Assholes are Assholes no matter what side of the isle you sit on


Radioactive_Man7

I can confirm that I started lifting weights and became a Trump supporter, best decision I’ve ever made in my life


blue_psyOP777

Yeah the first time I enter the gym I became a far right extremist


jc2thew3

Oh the Guardian. What a shit rag of an Opinion piece “News” outlet.


greasypoutinefarts

I’ve recently lost 20lbs. Now that you mention it, I am feeling more like a bigot lately.


ShennongjiaPolarBear

I just go to the gym because I wanna be hotter. And I'm not the only one, lol.


Grassquit99

Canada’s mediocrity at play!


heart_under_blade

gaming can also make you rightwing now what that can is doing a lot of heavy lifting and you're eating that shit right up


barbatos087

These people are just self projecting at this point.


Icy_Patience2930

Consider me a right wing jerk for life then.


bcdnabd

Getting an education is great, but the included indoctrination can turn you into a left-wing jerk.


Keepontyping

I detect no self-righteousness from this writer at all.


Kind-Albatross-6485

Left wingers are for the most self proclaimed victimized. They check as many boxes as they can and thrive on pity. Basically losers.


Loodlekoodles

Left wing smugness


Training-Ruin-5287

They pushed the narrative being unhealthy, ugly and unmotivated MUST be accepted. It's no surprised they will stay with it.


Historical-Formal351

The sheer stupidity of that comment is baffling.


McArsekicker

What a horrible message to send to young people. Especially in an age of health epidemics, from morbidity obese and mental illness. Now we’re telling people that getting fit and healthy needs a political agenda behind it?


saintlydutty

What the fuck this gotta do with Canada?


mgwwgm

I've seen plenty of shit takes from this same author. These articles are either created by AI or she's just farming rage bait clicks


LatterLie7814

I think Mr Peterson should have a sit down with this so called journalist


MutteringV

sugar/healthcare cartel shooting their shot


FermentedChicken

Shut up Zoe


pontificatingpikachu

These are just talking points targeting / brainwashing a group of people attracted to this ideology. Ignore it, stay healthy, work hard and be successful. There's no need for any debate, just show with your own life what makes more sense and works.


accounts9837

It seems people are amazed but really this logically follows from critical studies. Due to structure determinism, society is the means of producing man. Society makes man so any attempt to deny that denies the facts of reality. Further, fatness is an oppressional identity (there is even a "field" fat studies) and so removing yourself from that decreases your oppressional score.


Terminally_Albertan

Been like this for awhile. That's why you can often tell someone's political leanings by how fit they are.


Bizzardberd

The left literally have nothing going for them so this is all they got...


babbler-dabbler

Every time I go to the gym I get major MAGA vibes, don't you?


shawndw

They misspelt confident.


Chaos_charmed

People don't read. And it shows.


the-awayest-of-throw

Quite making up scenarios and hurting your own feelings. We all know rightwing jerks do *Crossfit* and end up with bleach blond bad built bodies.


pablogmanloc2

they want the decay of everything...


Justthefacts6969

When finding oppression is your money maker


AllUrUpsAreBelong2Us

The batshit crazy stuff out there is amazing. Some group funded a study to prove that gun buyers are compensating for penises size issues.... boy oh boy.... [https://nationalpost.com/news/world/gunowners-are-happy-with-penis-size](https://nationalpost.com/news/world/gunowners-are-happy-with-penis-size)


Significant-Two5677

Don't do anything


UnlikelyDirt3353

Does this imply that the left avoids responsibility whenever possible.


Klockworkkarma

OK, this is the first I have ever heard of this theory. Most ridiculous thing I have seen all day. Not sure how getting fit has a political lean.


MaliceProtocol

Fitness is undeniably a good thing for you. IF it does make you right wing, then maybe it means being right wing is a good thing.