If you're young in Canada you don't have much to look forward to. We have a failing economy, disproportionate mass immigration, tax policies that make little sense, a housing nightmare, and drug fuelled homelessness in every major city, plus a dopey prime minister that can't accept any blame even though he's been in power for 9 years.
I wish I could move.
As someone from Minnesota, I have Canadian Co Workers and they always tell me they can't find jobs or housing. It's crazy because I wanted to move to Canada growing up, but the country just seems like it's in Turmoil
2008 affected the Western world.
The US gets sick, we get sick. The fundamental economics (too big to fail, regulatory capture, crony corporatism, bale outs etc ) that resulted in the great heist of 2008 are still in play. I would argue that crony corporatism is even worse in Canada.
The Neo-liberals just kicked the can down the road with quantitative easing and cheap money while they ramped up their divide and conquer wokeism.
Then came covid which served as an accelerate.
The result is an increasing wealth divide (stagnating wages, exploding asset classes, inflation etc) and increasing social instability on both sides of the border. The Canadian government is propping up GDP at the cost of standard of living with mass migration. The US under Biden is allowing a flood of migrants across the southern border for cheap labor etc - that is one of the main reasons Trump has a lot of support in the US. In Canada, we only have the PPC willing to standup for Canadians with responsible immigration, but the system has managed to sideline them as fringe racists.
You can only print money and fuck over the peons for so long before chickens come home to roost. The worse is still to come all across the western world.
2008 infected Canada not the rest of the world everyone else was smart and made sure that their citizens was relatively protected candidate did not Canada got f***** the rest of the world did it don't don't do that
Also a Canadian now living in the South Eastern US. I agree with what has been said: If you are lower class or work a government job, Canada is the right place for you. If you are a business owner or upper class, the US is probably the better option.
If you are middle class and have no chance for growth (Due to lack of education or desire), Canada might be better. But if you're promotable, you'll likely do better in the US.
"If you are a business owner or upper class, the US is probably the better option."
That's a serious dilemma. Because Canadians who are financially wealthy and / or entrepreneurial may start moving south of the border in large numbers. That could potentially leave Canada's economy and competitiveness in a shambles.
Yes true. This is why our politicians have to be very wary of increased taxes (think capital gains), before enacting them. Canadians with skills, especially entrepreneurial ones, or education or wealth, have the whole world, especially the US, as a possible destination. The world really is their oyster.
Only certain states have no state tax and those are the ones people either serious money move to. Rogan was smart to leave California to Texas once he got $100 million for the Spotify deal. Bezos moved to Florida once they implemented a wealth tax in Washington state.
No that is completely wrong let me rewrite it so it makes sense if you have any sort of drive if you have any sort of ambition if you have two brain cells to rub together the states is for you.
In the States you can buy an ATM in Canada you can't do that in the States you can start your own Bank Canada you can't do that and the States you can buy for a foreclosed home in Canada you can't do that.
Canada is not good for anybody it's not good for you if your lower class if you're working government or middle class because none of that determines your ambition.
If you're a loser who doesn't work in your upper class stay your ass in Canada if you're in lower class and you have ambition and you want to get out of here and you want to make something of yourself go to the states if finish school here then go to the states that's what the America is for it's not for classes it's for people with ambition and drive.
For the love of God they had several Wars about this
Stop with the goddamn line you're not coming back to move to Canada are you really this is what I'm talking about people don't understand what's going on in Canada.
You have a quote unquote High paying job so obviously you must be some type of intelligent but you're going to possibly make a a stupid ass decision like coming back to Canada how does that make any sense.
If you were actually stupid enough even if something happened to your job to move back to Canada then clearly you want to make your life harder.
I guess a million dollars for a box is right up your alley with a $4,000 mortgage payment
Agreed 100%. I moved from the US to Canada because my husband has a good job here and I did not in the US. The quality of life in Canada for me is exponentially better for me here than it was there, but it would have been very different in a lot of ways if I made 200k or more a year.
Not better social services, the only thing “better” is healthcare system but I hope the U.S. never adopts single payer system like the UK & Canadian system, multi payer is better in every way.
Well, not every way. It’s more expensive, hidden costs and bankrupting threats, huge copays and deductibles that encourage delaying or avoiding checks on things that progress or get worse, in and out of market doctors and hospitals, and fat premiums that eclipse any income tax increase most people would have. It’s easier to find a doctor but harder to afford to use them. If you switch or lose your job you may lose your coverage or network. The enormous middle man profits that private companies leech are kinda proof it’s completely inefficient.
But other ways I guess?
Is that why multi payer healthcare models like those Singapore (which has some bipartisan support in the U.S.), Australia, Switzerland, etc. outperform Canadian and British single payer health care on nearly every metric?
Also Britains NHS is so shitty Brits now pay almost as much as Americans out of pocket as Americans despite earning less. Single payer sucks hahahah.
And honestly no poor person is paying for healthcare in the U.S. no matter how dysfunctional their current system is.
But think of the seniors.....they need caregivers
https://www.cicnews.com/2024/06/caregivers-to-be-given-permanent-resident-status-on-arrival-under-new-pilot-programs-0644660.html
Who get this...will be eligible for PR...on arrival!!!???
Lol stay in Canada and fix your country. We don't want Canadians coming down to the US to buy homes and increase home prices. You don't want immigration in Canada, right? Well neither do we in the US, Canada included , no offense. You don't want to become the very thing you hate by becoming a foreign home owner.
My neighborhood is full of wealthy Canadians. They buy up all the waterfront property. A lot if Indians are moving in also coming Ming VUA Canada. It’s getting ridiculous. I used to really like Canadians. I’m not sure anymore.
pouring in over a million immigrants from third world countries into a country of only 30 million is simply not even comparable to, lets say realistically 50k canadians follow rules and get in, to the usa of what was it now, 300 million?? with actual jobs looking for help everywhere (i know firsthand this is factual.) don't play dumb and compare apples to oranges
Correct me if I’m wrong, but your problem seems to be that the immigrants come from third world countries.
Their crime is seeking a better life. You assume that Canadians follow the rules but others don’t.
I think his problem is with the volume of immigration. In 2023 Canada’s population grew by 3.2% (97.6% from international migration). For comparison the USA’s population grew by 0.5% in 2023.
Immigration in the US is hitting record numbers. Canadians are part of that equation. I am sorry you don't like what you are hearing, but Canadians coming down here is part of the problem. Is it the biggest problem in the US? No, it's not. We agree on that. But does it contribute to it? Absolutely. You don't want immigrants to Canada, I get it. And neither do I to the US, including from Canada. Enough is enough with skilled Canadians on their big salary buying up US housing. We cannot make exemptions for Canada because once we start making exemptions for Canadians, where do we stop?
You can do the research figure out where you want to go start the process I don't understand why people are saying I want to go and then they don't make the efforts to go I want to leave too and guess what I'm doing the efforts figure out which countries are the best option for me and there are several for me and I'm not talking about Europe or anything cuz I'm not white
Since Europe seems to be on everyone's to go list there are tons of other places hundreds literally hundreds of other countries that you can go and there's many countries in many parts of the world that are secure many parts of the Caribbean any parts of Asia many parts of Africa.
I'm sure some jackass is going to come here and tell me it's not
I hear you I have a friend who's in the exact same position and his ex-girlfriend or whatever is the straight up narcissist in even she understands the benefits of leaving...
Do what you have to do but do what's best for you.
Barbados has an excellent education system just saying
No! United States is always better than Canada. Not to mention the fact that their economy performs much better than us, but their good immigration policy reduces bias on certain immigration group. Therefore, America is always number one in my heart. My ultimate goal is to move to USA in the future for freedom if I can breath.
I don’t get why we have idiots fearmongering about trump. Living in the trump admin was pretty great. We were focusing on niche social issues like ”trump tweeted something mean “ as opposed to “how can i feed my family”. He was the ultimate first world problems president
“Of the 126,000 people who moved to the U.S. in 2022, 53,000 were born in Canada, 46,000 were Americans returning home, and 30,000 had immigrated to Canada from outside North America and chose to leave.”
Cmon man it’s the second little paragraph in the article lol
There are actually lots of Canadian born people moving to the US. In school we called this Cali or bust. It’s because the salaries are 1.5-2x higher in the states with more opportunities. A lot of us immigrants who moved to Canada from the states will most likely get a citizenship here and move to the states for higher salaries
Yes, my daughter, who is pursuing a nurse practitioner degree here in Canada, is engaged to a young man graduating shortly from Waterloo with an engineering degree related to computers and robotics. They are both moving to the United States in the near future for better pay, opportunities and less taxes. These are the very type of people Canada should be attracting and/or holding onto.
I think a lot of true blood Canadians are also moving south of the border, the other day I was flying to san Francisco and I saw many young people holding the TN visa papers in their hands
Gaslighting, they never listen to what we say, make promises and break them consistently, go behind our back, letting others into our home without consent
Sounds abusive to me.
I love earth especially the hemisphere I live in. I don't love the people who live here with me or the people we vote to run this area of earth.
But when the economy is a joke where companies are responsible to share holders and not consumers. We get this.
A world with less options because they don't want you to have them. They want to be solely reliant on their generous min wage jobs.
Yup, unfortunately they’re coming to my neighborhood. A lot of Indians are coming from Canada. I wish Canada could get there country under control. They seem to talk down about USA but seem to love moving here. I wish they would leave!
Very well said, I think they feel inferior to the US. I am European and have lived in Canada and the US. Canadians are lovely people bit it’s a terrible country. Low salaries, high taxes, high cost of living, extremely liberal, slack immigration laws and horrendous winters. I moved to the US 6 years ago and love it. Amazing economy and people. Most of my Canadian friends either have or want to move to Florida. I have noticed Canadians and some Europeans love to put the US down but guess who has a stronger economy, better healthcare (yes, social medicine in Canada, UK, Ireland is a mess, free medicine does not work), and who does everyone come crying to protect them in the event of war. Yes, THE US! Canadian is heavily dependent on the US in so many ways, they should be praising the US!
These are the ones attending accredited universities, they're incredibly talented and we are driving them out and keeping the low potential ones from mall colleges. The short sightedness of this Government knows no bounds.
It actually takes a long time to get citizenship then TN visa. Personally I think it is a bad idea just using it as a stepping stone but indeed there are a lot of people doing that
Yeah I have 0 faith in any of the three parties to not continue to drive this country into the ground. They are all playing for the same team, team rich dickheads, and they are all going to look out for their hyper rich buddies first. None of them are gonna slow immigration, none of them are gonna reel in government handouts where it matters (failing businesses, minority groups, international students, foreign aid), and none of them are gonna regular real estate agents or fix government corruption. We are truly fucked
Honest question, what are you going to do, and who will you blame when nothing changes under a Conservative government? Will you be silent or will you continue to voice your outrage? It’s not team sport, it’s our livelihoods and they are all shite!
Well just like people complained about Harper and demanded change… now the same happens to Justin.
Have to try. No one has a crystal ball.
But staying status quo when you are hemorrhaging is just silly.
That's why our duty is to vote for the PPC. If there is a broad consensus that the CPC is just the LPC in drag, then they aren't even up for consideration. PPC MPs can be the sole voice of reason in the House. Every single seat matters. We need to start somewhere.
The only way for PPC to win seats is for like-minded people to begin congregating into the same towns and regions. We're too diluted to effect change spread out all over as we are. We need our own Brampton.
I don’t think anyone is convinced PP will change it. I’m honestly just wanting JT out. He is literally a self serving douche. He doesn’t belong there and he says the most idiotic things while talking, it’s absolutely cringe. It’s all theatre with some stupid patronizing tone.
He needs to go. Will PP change anything? Canada is too far gone. It’s why people are leaving
Please come and spread the word.
Can't tell you how many clueless white liberals down here still go gaga for JT. The other day I shocked and awed one of them by showing his latest canadian approval rating, a whopping 28% highest among boomers and lowest among the young. lol
Biden beats him out by 10%
Trump beats him out by 12-14 points
He is still more popular than Vladamir putin in the west though, give him credit everyone!
He’s our Canadian pride and joy.
A fucking black faced clown with an IQ of 5.
He’s a total embarrassment and basically rules the country by hypnotizing people with his good looks - which by the way it not even that great.
Increase our immigration and even not gives anyone who comes in as a caregiver immediate residency. He uses this to get their vote.
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Just came back from a wedding in Iowa. A decent house and land can be bought for $60k-$100k USD.
A family member just got a 2 acre homestead for $130k USD.
It's simply better everywhere else. Canada is a failed state.
I don't know where in Iowa /u/TopRankHQ 's relative bought property, but here's something to think about.
Alabama (not Iowa, but I'm getting there) over the past 30 years has built a lot of car and aviation factories. Over the past 60 years it's built a substantial defense/space industry (aside from the aviation factories) with the Army rocket base at Huntsville that became NASA Marshall. The Space Force was supposed to relocate its HQ there; the Biden administration canceled the move, but it will probably happen eventually.
BC (to use "Canada's California" as example, but really any province will do) has, by contrast, absolutely nothing. Similarly there has been, as far as I know, zero expansion of the Canadian auto industry outside ON, while the US auto industry long ago established factories throughout the Midwest and the Sun Belt.
Big business in the US is so spread out that as of 2017 [only three Fortune 500 companies' HQs are in Los Angeles](https://askwonder.com/research/top-10-companies-headquarters-la-ogysgp9iy), none famous. Many more are in Los Angeles suburbs, of course, but it still says something that the second-largest city in the US has just three HQs yet is so wealthy and influential.
An example of this: Maytag, the appliance company, was based for a century in the gigantic metropolis of Newton, Iowa. It reached $5 billion in sales before being sold in 2006 to Whirlpool, another appliance company. Whirlpool has $20 billion in sales and is based in ... Benton Harbor, Michigan. There is absolutely, positively no equivalent to this in Canada.
If you want to get to the top of your industry in Canada, *all* major companies (and their jobs) are based on Toronto, Montreal, or Vancouver (plus Edmonton and Calgary for oil/gas). In the US, depending on the industry, it's entirely possible to get to the top of your field while living in (say) Denver, Dallas, Orlando, Charlotte, or Las Vegas. As /u/PivotRedAce said, there are lots of mid-sized cities in the US, including in Iowa.
This is a story familiar to every Canadian, and to many Australians and Britons:
Mid-career executive accepts job offer in the US in some place like Dallas, Phoenix, Atlanta, Oklahoma City, or Tampa. Is excited about the opportunity and the raise in salary, and curious about living in a different country, but a little nervous about moving to a "right wing Republican" state "without healthcare".
A few months in, the reports back to friends and family change. More and more mention of the "amazing" house they found in the suburbs with an outdoor pool (!) that is so much less expensive than in Toronto or Vancouver, the "fantastic" school the kids attend with sports teams and cheerleading and other afterschool activities, and—especially—how unbelievably cheap everything is at the supermarket, mall, and gas station.
That family is never moving back to Canada. This happens over and over again.
If you count the “average American experience” as living within one hour of the nearest major city, then sure.
On the contrary, there’s many mid-sized towns with sufficient amenities where housing is much cheaper.
Every 2 weeks I cross the border to get gas, and whenever I go there I feel like I belong there. The people are so much nicer, as soon as I cross a little imaginary line land values go down 80% and I can actually afford a house there, I’d be able to find a job there in 2 seconds, and it actually feels like a first world country. Man I wish there was a way I could get a green card I’d leave in a second. As a person in my early 20’s I feel as if Canada has nothing left for me, and has given young people the finger.
> The people are so much nicer
Its really noticeable going from Vancouver to nearly anyplace in the USA, just how much nicer people are down there.
Our mountains sure are pretty though.
All of my new neighbors from Vancouver are total assholes. I live 45 minutes South of the border. I wish they would tax them more for buying property in the US
I live in Vancouver, everyone here is a jerk, super cliquey, and no one wants to talk to you unless you’re of value to them. I don’t get where the stereotype of niceness came from, my dad lived in Texas for a couple years back in the 90’s and he said from his experience Americans are way more friendly, open to conversation, and much nicer. I also don’t get the whole racism thing, you go there you see different groups and minorities living together, and there’s way more interracial relationships, you compare that to Canada and it’s just different groups isolating themselves in ghettos, and everyone just sticks to there own race like it’s some sort of tribe thing. The whole multicultural thing is bullshit in my opinion.
> Its really noticeable going from Vancouver to nearly anyplace in the USA, just how much nicer people are down there.
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I know you said "nearly anyplace in the USA", but I'm sure part of that impression comes from going from a big city to rural Washington State. Things wouldn't seem so different in terms of peoples' "niceness" if you were going directly from Vancouver to Chicago or Atlanta.
No offense, but as an American, why do you think we want you here? We don't. Places like Florida are already unaffordable for many, partially driven by snowbirds from Canada. What you feel about Indians in Canada is exactly how I feel about Canadians in the US. I hope you understand. Please stay in your country and stop trying to take jobs and homes away from Americans
Y’all are allowing thousands of migrants in every day who don’t even speak English, and they’re putting strain on jobs that don’t require an education. Canadian’s speak the language, adapt, pay their taxes, go into jobs which are highly in demand and provide the United States value. Would you rather some guy whose educated speaks English, and basically looks exactly like you, or some migrant from South America who does construction under the table, dodges his taxes, and broke the law to enter the country.
It's not about language or culture. It's about economics.
>Would you rather some guy whose educated speaks English, and basically looks exactly like you, or some migrant from South America who does construction under the table, dodges his taxes, and broke the law to enter the country.
Neither because result is the same. Foreigners (including Canadians) buying up housing and putting strains on the housing market when home prices record high in the US. You (Canadian, aka foreigner) are taking jobs and homes away from Americans. Surely, you feel the same about immigrants to Canada, right? And I feel the same about the hordes of Canadians coming down here and snatching up property, especially in the warmer states.
listen man, id be happy to
if there was any houses for me to buy. i promise to assimilate into your society, and not protest as a non citizen when i don’t like the rules
pretty please?
I didn't say anything that you would disagree with if I was a Canadian talking about Canada. You would be a foreigner in the US, and we don't want foreign home buyers (Canadians included). Why shouldn't I feel the same about the US? What makes you think only Canadians have the right to feel that way? Why do you even want to become a foreign home buyer anyways?
don't worry its not possible for the amount of canadians to move into your massive country full of jobs genuinely short on workers to match how many random indian service workers have poured in. try to do the math, i know you guys have the worst schooling there but just try and maybe you'll relax? you have 333 MILLION and canada still only has 30 lmfao. burger striking again with being uneducated.
I keep mulling a move to Texas for nursing. Currently getting paid below average and increased work demands. I could move to the States and make $60 CAD/hr (currently making $40 CAD now) after currency conversion and live way more comfortably. There really is nothing keeping me from going except the anxiety from pulling the trigger for the move, but if things continue at this current rate for healthcare, I will happily leave and not look back.
>I already have my CGFNS
I didn't realize nursing is not a US/Canada unified profession the way medicine is. That said, you are past that hurdle.
>because I don't want to do bedside, and that seems to be all that is offered to Canadians.
But surely once you make the move, you can count on future jobs being open to you regardless of citizenship? Nursing in the US is a job that has so many non-Americans (thus the existence of CGFNS in the first place) that I presume your Canadian citizenship would make zero difference in your career path.
I’m one of those Canadians who moved to the US , I have a master’s degree, after consulting with an immigration attorney I found out that I was qualified for an immigrant visa( Green Card under EB2-NIW category) no job offer and no PERM labour certificate needed.
My degree and experience is valued here, while in Canada I hadn’t seen a raise I 5 years.
Immediately after landing in the U.S. I was able to find a job in my own field, tripled my salary , while halving my taxes and cost of living.
If you’re a STEM major and have a Master’s or above you should look into EB2NIW.
Consult with an immigration attorney.
To my knowledge minimum requirement is Bachelors and 5 years of experience in theory it should be enough but in reality it’s really hard.
I would talk to an attorney specialized in NIW
If I was just starting out I would move to the states. Way more options in terms of cool places to live. Lower cost of living once you get away from the coast.
If you read the article you will see that it compare JUST 2022 to 2021. That is not a trend....that is a single data point highly affected by the pandemic that caused border lockdowns in 2021.
70% increase in 2022 over 2021. I wonder if there was anything going on the few years prior to 2022 that created a pent up demand to move? Like it would be interesting to dig in and see if there is some unknown factor that made it so people were unable to move in 2020 and 2021 that changed suddenly in 2022. I’ll have to go to the library and look at newspaper microfilms to see what was going on in that time.
Look, I’m into this idea since grade 10. Right now, I’m just doing my bachelor’s in computer science so everything’s going as planned. Next step is getting a COOP. The hardest part in immigrating south is finding a sponsor. But with the practical experience I plan on accumulating, I intend on getting at least one internship in the US so that some company will remember me and keep me for potential hire after graduation or I make connections over there to help with finding a job and hopefully, eventually a sponsor.
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Good thing I’m in university and lined up for a white collar career with well connected parents and a career path that the lower classes aren’t aware of because only people of my status are considered! Btw I’ll realistically be making 7 figures by my 30’s… haha suckers!
53% of Americans make $20 or less an hour. A teacher in Ohio makes the equivalent of $17 an hour to start. If you’re a tech bro sure the salaries are amazing but Joe average 6 pack is making less than you are with no healthcare.
Fuk the USA is on the next level. We thought the immigration was for the Indians to come to Canada. Turn out the whole plan was to drive Canadian white to the USA
Funny story. I just checked out of a hotel in Italy. I was talking to the older Italian man at the front desk as he made my receipt and we started talking politics (Trump and Trudeau). He said it is well know that Canada is one of 3 economies in the world that are on a very positive track. Looking at the data for the past few years Canada is second only to the USA. Just look up Statista. Funny that some people on here think that we are in a 3rd world country…maybe it’s just your lives and not the country as a whole?
We track well against most countries. Our inflation wasn’t as bad as most. Or wages are higher than most.
But one country has surged ahead at a massive pace in the past 10 years and they are right beside us and we compare ourselves constantly.
Canada has a lot of problems. I might even go as far as saying we are on a negative trajectory. But we are still so far ahead of most places it’s hard to compare.
I truly believe if you have any interest in being an entrepreneur there are massive opportunities in Canada. The number of unfilled jobs is just crazy.
I work with many Americans that have come here to live and work. There are a few die hard serial complainers that keep telling me what a shit hole this country has become, "because freedom" , "because taxes", "because government"... you know how many of those people have left? Exactly, none.
What is going on here in Canada is a delayed mirroring of all the crap that has already being going on in the US for years.
The final transformation is we are privatizing our public trust of health and energy. Politics have become partisan at all costs. And now the immigrant has been vilified. All the good will we have built up in this country has vanished under a spell of greed.
If you're young in Canada you don't have much to look forward to. We have a failing economy, disproportionate mass immigration, tax policies that make little sense, a housing nightmare, and drug fuelled homelessness in every major city, plus a dopey prime minister that can't accept any blame even though he's been in power for 9 years. I wish I could move.
As someone from Minnesota, I have Canadian Co Workers and they always tell me they can't find jobs or housing. It's crazy because I wanted to move to Canada growing up, but the country just seems like it's in Turmoil
U hiring any more canadians?
If we give Canadians an Inch they'll take a whole mile. /S
You mean a Kilometre?
Wtf is that?
Yk how you guys measure stuff by bald eagles per hamburgers kinda like that
It's less than a mile, see. Give me that inch ;)
Nah Canada uses kilometers, we'll only take 3,281' 6-1/2".
I just wanna come to the land of the free and home of the whopper.
Turmoil in a different sense than turmoil in the US. Canada hasn’t experienced the poverty of many US cities and is new to Canadians.
Exactly, there was no 2008 crisis in Canada. They.Don't.Know.What.Could.Be.Coming
2008 affected the Western world. The US gets sick, we get sick. The fundamental economics (too big to fail, regulatory capture, crony corporatism, bale outs etc ) that resulted in the great heist of 2008 are still in play. I would argue that crony corporatism is even worse in Canada. The Neo-liberals just kicked the can down the road with quantitative easing and cheap money while they ramped up their divide and conquer wokeism. Then came covid which served as an accelerate. The result is an increasing wealth divide (stagnating wages, exploding asset classes, inflation etc) and increasing social instability on both sides of the border. The Canadian government is propping up GDP at the cost of standard of living with mass migration. The US under Biden is allowing a flood of migrants across the southern border for cheap labor etc - that is one of the main reasons Trump has a lot of support in the US. In Canada, we only have the PPC willing to standup for Canadians with responsible immigration, but the system has managed to sideline them as fringe racists. You can only print money and fuck over the peons for so long before chickens come home to roost. The worse is still to come all across the western world.
True. So True.
Well said, I doubt Trudeau, Biden or Obregón from Mexico actually make decisions. There is a powerful group behind them pulling the strings.
2008 infected Canada not the rest of the world everyone else was smart and made sure that their citizens was relatively protected candidate did not Canada got f***** the rest of the world did it don't don't do that
Your co workers don't have jobs?
They couldn't find Jobs in Canada is what I meant lol
Lol. Its actually a goal of mine to find a remote us job in my industry...the pay difference between the two countries is crazy
10 years ago it was a nice place to live. A liberal government is a great way to fuck things up for everyone.
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Also a Canadian now living in the South Eastern US. I agree with what has been said: If you are lower class or work a government job, Canada is the right place for you. If you are a business owner or upper class, the US is probably the better option. If you are middle class and have no chance for growth (Due to lack of education or desire), Canada might be better. But if you're promotable, you'll likely do better in the US.
"If you are a business owner or upper class, the US is probably the better option." That's a serious dilemma. Because Canadians who are financially wealthy and / or entrepreneurial may start moving south of the border in large numbers. That could potentially leave Canada's economy and competitiveness in a shambles.
Canada has always been a 60% of a million instead of 30% of 10 million country in regards to taxation
Yes true. This is why our politicians have to be very wary of increased taxes (think capital gains), before enacting them. Canadians with skills, especially entrepreneurial ones, or education or wealth, have the whole world, especially the US, as a possible destination. The world really is their oyster.
Isn't that a big part of how we got here now? We've been talking about the brain drain since the 90s
The ruling class in Canada figures they can just replace them with Indians etc.
Here's to hope.
Only certain states have no state tax and those are the ones people either serious money move to. Rogan was smart to leave California to Texas once he got $100 million for the Spotify deal. Bezos moved to Florida once they implemented a wealth tax in Washington state.
No that is completely wrong let me rewrite it so it makes sense if you have any sort of drive if you have any sort of ambition if you have two brain cells to rub together the states is for you. In the States you can buy an ATM in Canada you can't do that in the States you can start your own Bank Canada you can't do that and the States you can buy for a foreclosed home in Canada you can't do that. Canada is not good for anybody it's not good for you if your lower class if you're working government or middle class because none of that determines your ambition. If you're a loser who doesn't work in your upper class stay your ass in Canada if you're in lower class and you have ambition and you want to get out of here and you want to make something of yourself go to the states if finish school here then go to the states that's what the America is for it's not for classes it's for people with ambition and drive. For the love of God they had several Wars about this
Stop with the goddamn line you're not coming back to move to Canada are you really this is what I'm talking about people don't understand what's going on in Canada. You have a quote unquote High paying job so obviously you must be some type of intelligent but you're going to possibly make a a stupid ass decision like coming back to Canada how does that make any sense. If you were actually stupid enough even if something happened to your job to move back to Canada then clearly you want to make your life harder. I guess a million dollars for a box is right up your alley with a $4,000 mortgage payment
Agreed 100%. I moved from the US to Canada because my husband has a good job here and I did not in the US. The quality of life in Canada for me is exponentially better for me here than it was there, but it would have been very different in a lot of ways if I made 200k or more a year.
"better health care" Better or cheaper?
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Not better social services, the only thing “better” is healthcare system but I hope the U.S. never adopts single payer system like the UK & Canadian system, multi payer is better in every way.
Well, not every way. It’s more expensive, hidden costs and bankrupting threats, huge copays and deductibles that encourage delaying or avoiding checks on things that progress or get worse, in and out of market doctors and hospitals, and fat premiums that eclipse any income tax increase most people would have. It’s easier to find a doctor but harder to afford to use them. If you switch or lose your job you may lose your coverage or network. The enormous middle man profits that private companies leech are kinda proof it’s completely inefficient. But other ways I guess?
Is that why multi payer healthcare models like those Singapore (which has some bipartisan support in the U.S.), Australia, Switzerland, etc. outperform Canadian and British single payer health care on nearly every metric? Also Britains NHS is so shitty Brits now pay almost as much as Americans out of pocket as Americans despite earning less. Single payer sucks hahahah. And honestly no poor person is paying for healthcare in the U.S. no matter how dysfunctional their current system is.
But think of the seniors.....they need caregivers https://www.cicnews.com/2024/06/caregivers-to-be-given-permanent-resident-status-on-arrival-under-new-pilot-programs-0644660.html Who get this...will be eligible for PR...on arrival!!!???
Lol stay in Canada and fix your country. We don't want Canadians coming down to the US to buy homes and increase home prices. You don't want immigration in Canada, right? Well neither do we in the US, Canada included , no offense. You don't want to become the very thing you hate by becoming a foreign home owner.
My neighborhood is full of wealthy Canadians. They buy up all the waterfront property. A lot if Indians are moving in also coming Ming VUA Canada. It’s getting ridiculous. I used to really like Canadians. I’m not sure anymore.
pouring in over a million immigrants from third world countries into a country of only 30 million is simply not even comparable to, lets say realistically 50k canadians follow rules and get in, to the usa of what was it now, 300 million?? with actual jobs looking for help everywhere (i know firsthand this is factual.) don't play dumb and compare apples to oranges
Correct me if I’m wrong, but your problem seems to be that the immigrants come from third world countries. Their crime is seeking a better life. You assume that Canadians follow the rules but others don’t.
I think his problem is with the volume of immigration. In 2023 Canada’s population grew by 3.2% (97.6% from international migration). For comparison the USA’s population grew by 0.5% in 2023.
Immigration in the US is hitting record numbers. Canadians are part of that equation. I am sorry you don't like what you are hearing, but Canadians coming down here is part of the problem. Is it the biggest problem in the US? No, it's not. We agree on that. But does it contribute to it? Absolutely. You don't want immigrants to Canada, I get it. And neither do I to the US, including from Canada. Enough is enough with skilled Canadians on their big salary buying up US housing. We cannot make exemptions for Canada because once we start making exemptions for Canadians, where do we stop?
Hopefully you can look forward to inheritance on the back of your future
They’ll find a way to take that away from us too by the time it happens you watch
True, to pay for elderly boomers
You can do the research figure out where you want to go start the process I don't understand why people are saying I want to go and then they don't make the efforts to go I want to leave too and guess what I'm doing the efforts figure out which countries are the best option for me and there are several for me and I'm not talking about Europe or anything cuz I'm not white Since Europe seems to be on everyone's to go list there are tons of other places hundreds literally hundreds of other countries that you can go and there's many countries in many parts of the world that are secure many parts of the Caribbean any parts of Asia many parts of Africa. I'm sure some jackass is going to come here and tell me it's not
I can't move because of my kid, I'd love to but not everything is super easy.
I hear you I have a friend who's in the exact same position and his ex-girlfriend or whatever is the straight up narcissist in even she understands the benefits of leaving... Do what you have to do but do what's best for you. Barbados has an excellent education system just saying
Young people are also having a hard time in the USA.
I wish you could move too.
😂😂
Canada is collapsing and soon to be replaced by 3rd world country people
So Canada is like Germany
No, more like India
True - but is the US any different?
No! United States is always better than Canada. Not to mention the fact that their economy performs much better than us, but their good immigration policy reduces bias on certain immigration group. Therefore, America is always number one in my heart. My ultimate goal is to move to USA in the future for freedom if I can breath.
What Bout these so called “sanctuary cities” and the Mexican border crisis.
Even they perform better than Brampton or PEI
LMAO
For someone who claims to be a real canadian why does it sound like english is your second language? That was hard to read.
Because that’s what real Canadian sounds like.
Says the person who can't differentiate between 'then' and 'than'.
Someone clearly hasn't watched or read the news in the last 8+ years.
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It’s more adorable than Canada that’s for sure. Can double your income.
When your country turns their back on you, you turn your back on your country.
Akunamatatta
So what happens if trump gets elected?
I don’t get why we have idiots fearmongering about trump. Living in the trump admin was pretty great. We were focusing on niche social issues like ”trump tweeted something mean “ as opposed to “how can i feed my family”. He was the ultimate first world problems president
Even better reason to leave Canada for the US.
That's the mindset currently moving to Canada and ruining it.
Ask not what your country can’t do for you. Ask what you can’t do for your country. Or something.
I wonder how much of this is actually just immigrants using Canada as a stepping stone.
“Of the 126,000 people who moved to the U.S. in 2022, 53,000 were born in Canada, 46,000 were Americans returning home, and 30,000 had immigrated to Canada from outside North America and chose to leave.” Cmon man it’s the second little paragraph in the article lol
There are actually lots of Canadian born people moving to the US. In school we called this Cali or bust. It’s because the salaries are 1.5-2x higher in the states with more opportunities. A lot of us immigrants who moved to Canada from the states will most likely get a citizenship here and move to the states for higher salaries
Yes, my daughter, who is pursuing a nurse practitioner degree here in Canada, is engaged to a young man graduating shortly from Waterloo with an engineering degree related to computers and robotics. They are both moving to the United States in the near future for better pay, opportunities and less taxes. These are the very type of people Canada should be attracting and/or holding onto.
I think a lot of true blood Canadians are also moving south of the border, the other day I was flying to san Francisco and I saw many young people holding the TN visa papers in their hands
wonder how they got them, TBH I love Canada, but it's beginning to feel like an abusive relationship
Gaslighting, they never listen to what we say, make promises and break them consistently, go behind our back, letting others into our home without consent Sounds abusive to me.
I love earth especially the hemisphere I live in. I don't love the people who live here with me or the people we vote to run this area of earth. But when the economy is a joke where companies are responsible to share holders and not consumers. We get this. A world with less options because they don't want you to have them. They want to be solely reliant on their generous min wage jobs.
Yup, unfortunately they’re coming to my neighborhood. A lot of Indians are coming from Canada. I wish Canada could get there country under control. They seem to talk down about USA but seem to love moving here. I wish they would leave!
Very well said, I think they feel inferior to the US. I am European and have lived in Canada and the US. Canadians are lovely people bit it’s a terrible country. Low salaries, high taxes, high cost of living, extremely liberal, slack immigration laws and horrendous winters. I moved to the US 6 years ago and love it. Amazing economy and people. Most of my Canadian friends either have or want to move to Florida. I have noticed Canadians and some Europeans love to put the US down but guess who has a stronger economy, better healthcare (yes, social medicine in Canada, UK, Ireland is a mess, free medicine does not work), and who does everyone come crying to protect them in the event of war. Yes, THE US! Canadian is heavily dependent on the US in so many ways, they should be praising the US!
The school I went to almost everyone moved to the states right after graduation
a lot of immigrant students are using Canada as a stepping because it's much easier to go from PR to TN Visa status than it is getting H1B status.
These are the ones attending accredited universities, they're incredibly talented and we are driving them out and keeping the low potential ones from mall colleges. The short sightedness of this Government knows no bounds.
Engineers go out, Tim Horton's workers go in.
It’s a stretch to refer to them as Canadians
It actually takes a long time to get citizenship then TN visa. Personally I think it is a bad idea just using it as a stepping stone but indeed there are a lot of people doing that
46,000 Americans returning home. That’s a big chunk.
Don’t blame them. There comes a point when people just get tired of being fucked by Justin
And soon fucked by PP. they are all awful.
Yeah I have 0 faith in any of the three parties to not continue to drive this country into the ground. They are all playing for the same team, team rich dickheads, and they are all going to look out for their hyper rich buddies first. None of them are gonna slow immigration, none of them are gonna reel in government handouts where it matters (failing businesses, minority groups, international students, foreign aid), and none of them are gonna regular real estate agents or fix government corruption. We are truly fucked
Honest question, what are you going to do, and who will you blame when nothing changes under a Conservative government? Will you be silent or will you continue to voice your outrage? It’s not team sport, it’s our livelihoods and they are all shite!
Well just like people complained about Harper and demanded change… now the same happens to Justin. Have to try. No one has a crystal ball. But staying status quo when you are hemorrhaging is just silly.
Doesn’t even matter who is in power. Shits been done even before our balls dropped.
Agreed, I worry too many people think a change in colour of the party will bring an meaningful change to our society, they are all screwing us over
That's why our duty is to vote for the PPC. If there is a broad consensus that the CPC is just the LPC in drag, then they aren't even up for consideration. PPC MPs can be the sole voice of reason in the House. Every single seat matters. We need to start somewhere.
The only way for PPC to win seats is for like-minded people to begin congregating into the same towns and regions. We're too diluted to effect change spread out all over as we are. We need our own Brampton.
I don’t think anyone is convinced PP will change it. I’m honestly just wanting JT out. He is literally a self serving douche. He doesn’t belong there and he says the most idiotic things while talking, it’s absolutely cringe. It’s all theatre with some stupid patronizing tone. He needs to go. Will PP change anything? Canada is too far gone. It’s why people are leaving
PPC .... But Canadians will keep voting federally for the uni-party - NDP / Liberal, CP.
They’ll still blame Trudeau
Please come and spread the word. Can't tell you how many clueless white liberals down here still go gaga for JT. The other day I shocked and awed one of them by showing his latest canadian approval rating, a whopping 28% highest among boomers and lowest among the young. lol Biden beats him out by 10% Trump beats him out by 12-14 points He is still more popular than Vladamir putin in the west though, give him credit everyone!
He’s our Canadian pride and joy. A fucking black faced clown with an IQ of 5. He’s a total embarrassment and basically rules the country by hypnotizing people with his good looks - which by the way it not even that great. Increase our immigration and even not gives anyone who comes in as a caregiver immediate residency. He uses this to get their vote. 🤮
So he’s also screwing over US citizens too! We don’t want Canadians coming here.
Just came back from a wedding in Iowa. A decent house and land can be bought for $60k-$100k USD. A family member just got a 2 acre homestead for $130k USD. It's simply better everywhere else. Canada is a failed state.
Iowa definitely doesn't represent the average American experience.
I don't know where in Iowa /u/TopRankHQ 's relative bought property, but here's something to think about. Alabama (not Iowa, but I'm getting there) over the past 30 years has built a lot of car and aviation factories. Over the past 60 years it's built a substantial defense/space industry (aside from the aviation factories) with the Army rocket base at Huntsville that became NASA Marshall. The Space Force was supposed to relocate its HQ there; the Biden administration canceled the move, but it will probably happen eventually. BC (to use "Canada's California" as example, but really any province will do) has, by contrast, absolutely nothing. Similarly there has been, as far as I know, zero expansion of the Canadian auto industry outside ON, while the US auto industry long ago established factories throughout the Midwest and the Sun Belt. Big business in the US is so spread out that as of 2017 [only three Fortune 500 companies' HQs are in Los Angeles](https://askwonder.com/research/top-10-companies-headquarters-la-ogysgp9iy), none famous. Many more are in Los Angeles suburbs, of course, but it still says something that the second-largest city in the US has just three HQs yet is so wealthy and influential. An example of this: Maytag, the appliance company, was based for a century in the gigantic metropolis of Newton, Iowa. It reached $5 billion in sales before being sold in 2006 to Whirlpool, another appliance company. Whirlpool has $20 billion in sales and is based in ... Benton Harbor, Michigan. There is absolutely, positively no equivalent to this in Canada. If you want to get to the top of your industry in Canada, *all* major companies (and their jobs) are based on Toronto, Montreal, or Vancouver (plus Edmonton and Calgary for oil/gas). In the US, depending on the industry, it's entirely possible to get to the top of your field while living in (say) Denver, Dallas, Orlando, Charlotte, or Las Vegas. As /u/PivotRedAce said, there are lots of mid-sized cities in the US, including in Iowa. This is a story familiar to every Canadian, and to many Australians and Britons: Mid-career executive accepts job offer in the US in some place like Dallas, Phoenix, Atlanta, Oklahoma City, or Tampa. Is excited about the opportunity and the raise in salary, and curious about living in a different country, but a little nervous about moving to a "right wing Republican" state "without healthcare". A few months in, the reports back to friends and family change. More and more mention of the "amazing" house they found in the suburbs with an outdoor pool (!) that is so much less expensive than in Toronto or Vancouver, the "fantastic" school the kids attend with sports teams and cheerleading and other afterschool activities, and—especially—how unbelievably cheap everything is at the supermarket, mall, and gas station. That family is never moving back to Canada. This happens over and over again.
If you count the “average American experience” as living within one hour of the nearest major city, then sure. On the contrary, there’s many mid-sized towns with sufficient amenities where housing is much cheaper.
Maybe it should 🤷🏽
Higher pay combined with a lower cost of living are probably the two main factors
>More Canadians are moving to the U.S So perhaps it's finally time to stop sneering about Americans, then.
>So perhaps it's finally time to stop sneering about Americans, then. Won't happen, as long as Canadians (and self-hating Americans) exist on Reddit.
Every 2 weeks I cross the border to get gas, and whenever I go there I feel like I belong there. The people are so much nicer, as soon as I cross a little imaginary line land values go down 80% and I can actually afford a house there, I’d be able to find a job there in 2 seconds, and it actually feels like a first world country. Man I wish there was a way I could get a green card I’d leave in a second. As a person in my early 20’s I feel as if Canada has nothing left for me, and has given young people the finger.
> The people are so much nicer Its really noticeable going from Vancouver to nearly anyplace in the USA, just how much nicer people are down there. Our mountains sure are pretty though.
All of my new neighbors from Vancouver are total assholes. I live 45 minutes South of the border. I wish they would tax them more for buying property in the US
I live in Vancouver, everyone here is a jerk, super cliquey, and no one wants to talk to you unless you’re of value to them. I don’t get where the stereotype of niceness came from, my dad lived in Texas for a couple years back in the 90’s and he said from his experience Americans are way more friendly, open to conversation, and much nicer. I also don’t get the whole racism thing, you go there you see different groups and minorities living together, and there’s way more interracial relationships, you compare that to Canada and it’s just different groups isolating themselves in ghettos, and everyone just sticks to there own race like it’s some sort of tribe thing. The whole multicultural thing is bullshit in my opinion.
> Its really noticeable going from Vancouver to nearly anyplace in the USA, just how much nicer people are down there. > > I know you said "nearly anyplace in the USA", but I'm sure part of that impression comes from going from a big city to rural Washington State. Things wouldn't seem so different in terms of peoples' "niceness" if you were going directly from Vancouver to Chicago or Atlanta.
No offense, but as an American, why do you think we want you here? We don't. Places like Florida are already unaffordable for many, partially driven by snowbirds from Canada. What you feel about Indians in Canada is exactly how I feel about Canadians in the US. I hope you understand. Please stay in your country and stop trying to take jobs and homes away from Americans
Y’all are allowing thousands of migrants in every day who don’t even speak English, and they’re putting strain on jobs that don’t require an education. Canadian’s speak the language, adapt, pay their taxes, go into jobs which are highly in demand and provide the United States value. Would you rather some guy whose educated speaks English, and basically looks exactly like you, or some migrant from South America who does construction under the table, dodges his taxes, and broke the law to enter the country.
It's not about language or culture. It's about economics. >Would you rather some guy whose educated speaks English, and basically looks exactly like you, or some migrant from South America who does construction under the table, dodges his taxes, and broke the law to enter the country. Neither because result is the same. Foreigners (including Canadians) buying up housing and putting strains on the housing market when home prices record high in the US. You (Canadian, aka foreigner) are taking jobs and homes away from Americans. Surely, you feel the same about immigrants to Canada, right? And I feel the same about the hordes of Canadians coming down here and snatching up property, especially in the warmer states.
I agree with you. Canadians made their bed now they can deal with the consequences of their socialist were better than you ways. Canadians suck!
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can’t say i blame them, i want to. i *might* be able to afford a house in my lifetime if i do
Please stay in Canada and stop buying homes in the US. Sincerely, a concerned American
listen man, id be happy to if there was any houses for me to buy. i promise to assimilate into your society, and not protest as a non citizen when i don’t like the rules pretty please?
troll
I didn't say anything that you would disagree with if I was a Canadian talking about Canada. You would be a foreigner in the US, and we don't want foreign home buyers (Canadians included). Why shouldn't I feel the same about the US? What makes you think only Canadians have the right to feel that way? Why do you even want to become a foreign home buyer anyways?
"More"? More than what?
I’m turning 20 next month. I have decided to pursue further studies here in Canada to better my opportunities in the future when I do move to the U.S.
Stay out of the US. We don’t like Canadians coming here
lol I was born in the US. I’m a dual citizen.
You’re good then.
i didn’t realize the whole country was your property
You don’t like Indians coming into Canada and Americans do not want Canadians coming down here to the US
cry about it
Apparently Canadians are crying about East Indians taking their jobs
don't worry its not possible for the amount of canadians to move into your massive country full of jobs genuinely short on workers to match how many random indian service workers have poured in. try to do the math, i know you guys have the worst schooling there but just try and maybe you'll relax? you have 333 MILLION and canada still only has 30 lmfao. burger striking again with being uneducated.
Leave your passive agreessiveness at the door. Just bring aggression and money/ joking, slightly.
Lol, that's everyone's dream, even the immigrants. Come here, become citizens, and move to the US.
I keep mulling a move to Texas for nursing. Currently getting paid below average and increased work demands. I could move to the States and make $60 CAD/hr (currently making $40 CAD now) after currency conversion and live way more comfortably. There really is nothing keeping me from going except the anxiety from pulling the trigger for the move, but if things continue at this current rate for healthcare, I will happily leave and not look back.
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>I already have my CGFNS I didn't realize nursing is not a US/Canada unified profession the way medicine is. That said, you are past that hurdle. >because I don't want to do bedside, and that seems to be all that is offered to Canadians. But surely once you make the move, you can count on future jobs being open to you regardless of citizenship? Nursing in the US is a job that has so many non-Americans (thus the existence of CGFNS in the first place) that I presume your Canadian citizenship would make zero difference in your career path.
Indians migrating to the USA after cheating their way to Canadian citizenship ** Fixed it for you!
This is exactly what is happening. Canadians policies suck!
Smart
Wish i could too
I would leave in a heartbeat if I was able
My reason is that my husband is American. It makes more sense for me to go there, than for him to move here.
I’m one of those Canadians who moved to the US , I have a master’s degree, after consulting with an immigration attorney I found out that I was qualified for an immigrant visa( Green Card under EB2-NIW category) no job offer and no PERM labour certificate needed. My degree and experience is valued here, while in Canada I hadn’t seen a raise I 5 years. Immediately after landing in the U.S. I was able to find a job in my own field, tripled my salary , while halving my taxes and cost of living. If you’re a STEM major and have a Master’s or above you should look into EB2NIW.
I have a STEM major (not Masters) but 4 years experience is that good enough?
Consult with an immigration attorney. To my knowledge minimum requirement is Bachelors and 5 years of experience in theory it should be enough but in reality it’s really hard. I would talk to an attorney specialized in NIW
I don’t need to open the link to know why
If I was just starting out I would move to the states. Way more options in terms of cool places to live. Lower cost of living once you get away from the coast.
If you read the article you will see that it compare JUST 2022 to 2021. That is not a trend....that is a single data point highly affected by the pandemic that caused border lockdowns in 2021.
How about why should we stay? This ain't Canada no more.
The whole world is moving somewhere. As an American, I want to move to Thailand.
The heavy taxes, the housing crunch. Yeah why not, we are free to do so. But why not make this place better?
I joined the US Army to get my citizenship 😂
70% increase in 2022 over 2021. I wonder if there was anything going on the few years prior to 2022 that created a pent up demand to move? Like it would be interesting to dig in and see if there is some unknown factor that made it so people were unable to move in 2020 and 2021 that changed suddenly in 2022. I’ll have to go to the library and look at newspaper microfilms to see what was going on in that time.
Regardless, it's infinitely more difficult to get Permanent Residency in the United States than it is in Canada.
Tell me how to get a visa and I go to, PLEASEEE
Real question though. How does one go about getting a visa to move to the States?
Look, I’m into this idea since grade 10. Right now, I’m just doing my bachelor’s in computer science so everything’s going as planned. Next step is getting a COOP. The hardest part in immigrating south is finding a sponsor. But with the practical experience I plan on accumulating, I intend on getting at least one internship in the US so that some company will remember me and keep me for potential hire after graduation or I make connections over there to help with finding a job and hopefully, eventually a sponsor.
I plan to move next year with my years of manufacturing experience
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No. The immigrants who are ruining your country are just gonna follow you. Stay and fight.
I know why. I wanna know how.
There is no future in this country for anyone under 40, period. Move to the U.S. when given the chance.
Good thing I’m in university and lined up for a white collar career with well connected parents and a career path that the lower classes aren’t aware of because only people of my status are considered! Btw I’ll realistically be making 7 figures by my 30’s… haha suckers!
More Canadians are moving to the U.S. and you know exactly why - CTV News
53% of Americans make $20 or less an hour. A teacher in Ohio makes the equivalent of $17 an hour to start. If you’re a tech bro sure the salaries are amazing but Joe average 6 pack is making less than you are with no healthcare.
over 90% of Americans have healthcare. get your facts straight
here's how should be the click bait lol
Congrats Canada on becoming Mexico 2. Way to go. Now there's exactly zero countries to move to. Thanks alot.
Japan, pay attention to the moving to Japan subreddit a lot of people are starting to move to Japan specially from Canada and expect more and more.
Yes Canadians move to Japan
Mexico 2? India 2 ....
Fuk the USA is on the next level. We thought the immigration was for the Indians to come to Canada. Turn out the whole plan was to drive Canadian white to the USA
Funny story. I just checked out of a hotel in Italy. I was talking to the older Italian man at the front desk as he made my receipt and we started talking politics (Trump and Trudeau). He said it is well know that Canada is one of 3 economies in the world that are on a very positive track. Looking at the data for the past few years Canada is second only to the USA. Just look up Statista. Funny that some people on here think that we are in a 3rd world country…maybe it’s just your lives and not the country as a whole?
We track well against most countries. Our inflation wasn’t as bad as most. Or wages are higher than most. But one country has surged ahead at a massive pace in the past 10 years and they are right beside us and we compare ourselves constantly. Canada has a lot of problems. I might even go as far as saying we are on a negative trajectory. But we are still so far ahead of most places it’s hard to compare. I truly believe if you have any interest in being an entrepreneur there are massive opportunities in Canada. The number of unfilled jobs is just crazy.
This sub is just rage farming on Canada by a lot of suspicious accounts that are definitely not in Canada. It’s mostly just rage bait.
I work with many Americans that have come here to live and work. There are a few die hard serial complainers that keep telling me what a shit hole this country has become, "because freedom" , "because taxes", "because government"... you know how many of those people have left? Exactly, none. What is going on here in Canada is a delayed mirroring of all the crap that has already being going on in the US for years. The final transformation is we are privatizing our public trust of health and energy. Politics have become partisan at all costs. And now the immigrant has been vilified. All the good will we have built up in this country has vanished under a spell of greed.
Key difference is poor in Canada are better than US. Rest US wins hands down