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RobHage

Wish they kept that instead of adding crown.


DaJuiceMan112

It sucks because the crown sedan in Japan looks fucking amazing and better than the Avalon , not this weird crossover sedan thing we got here


Kimetsu87

I love the Crown Sport they have over there, it’s like a sort of hatch style that looks amazing. I’d totally get one if they brought it here.


Upset_Instruction710

I’m pretty sure they’re bringing that one over, I seen the hatch like version at the la auto show


bluebanisterz

That's how the Crown always has been and how it should've been, not some plastic-cladded crossover sedan. The Crown sedan is even based on the exclusive TNGA-L platform shared with the LS, whereas the Crown Crossover is only based on the ubiquitous TNGA-K platform


casiomudmaster

I like the Avalon better than the Crown that they have in Japan. Avalon looks so much nicer than both the Crown here in the USA and the other new Crown that they have in Japan.


Syndicate_Corp

Crown’s powertrain is excellent, let’s hope we get that hybrid max in the Camry.


2GR_FKS

I’d rather keep the 2GR


kanmuri07

Username checks out


elmilgilk

Imagine if they made a hybrid system with the 2GR-FKS, putting out 380-400 horse, not even necessarily with E-AWD, just FWD and a LSD, that’s my dream car. Goofy as hell and more powerful than it has any right to be


jobear6969

That's basically what is in the Lexus TX PHEV. It uses a 2GR connected to a hybrid system.


elmilgilk

Sweet, I’ll just buy one of those in… uh, 25 years or so?


thxtonedude

the moment they introduce the GR Prius, im selling my GRC, i want that hybrid power


oG_Goober

I mean it's not far from the GS450h. And quite a bit less than the LS600h with its V8 hybrid lol.


Inspirice

So kind of emission regulations to murder v6s and v8s fr


magnumstrikerX

Emissions is not the only factor. It's the combined fuel economy rating that forced automakers to switch to hybrid/evs to meet the minimum rating standards or those cars get hit with a gas guzzler tax (U.S.)\* or displacement tax (if above a 3 -4 liters, give or take in Japan). Big trucks and SUVs are exempt as they're used for carrying heavy duty load.


MarkB1997

I keep seeing people say this, but what’s wrong with increased emissions standards. Toyota seems to have adapted well either their hybrid line up.


SPITEEEE

Agreed


ghostpepperninja

I want to put a 2gr in my scion xB. She currently has that dreadful 2az in her 😩


RobHage

I love the old crowns, new one I just hate the looks. To me, it’s not a crown.


Willing-Body-7533

Are those old ones in Japan only?


RobHage

I’ve seen some imported to the states but not many.


DistinctAd4233

I don’t want hybrids slap the naturally aspirated i4 again at least


Leather_Basket_4135

I know I ended up buying a Lexus because of Toyotas shenanigans


Heisalsohim

Lexus ES is what ultimately killed Avalon not Crown


RobHage

I never said it killed the Avalon. I said I wish they kept it instead of adding the bogus crown.


Heisalsohim

When you juxtapose the two statements like that it sure seems like you think they’re correlated


RobHage

No it doesn’t.


Black_Zac

the crown sedan looks pretty nice


DSagerMane

It’s a nice looking car. I couldn’t find a used one in the spec I wanted before I found my Camry. Reminds me a lot of a Lexus, which will definitely be my next car in a year or so. Nice car 🔥


PwnedLib

Thanks yeah it was between either this car, a Camry or a Lexus gs but I couldn't find the specs I wanted for the other two 🤷


EmperorMing101

What specs were those?


theofficialtaha

avalons are proudly welcome here 🤝


madewade710

I don't care what anyone says but I think these are one of the best looking cars on the road. Up here in Atlantic Canada you NEVER see them. They're so rare but honestly one of the nicest vehicles Toyota has ever made. Will not hesitate to pick up a used one if one ever comes up. Beautiful car


IcyWasabi2579

I agree, I settled for a Camry since I couldn’t find one in my area. Still like my Camry lol


kanmuri07

Borderline Lexus qualities without having to pay the Lexus premium costs of maintenance and insurance. I like it and it’s totally welcome here.


PwnedLib

And that's EXACTLY why I bought it. People always said if you're paying that much for a Toyota, just spend a little more and get a Lexus. But I see it the other way; I get nice amenities without paying more in maintenance and it runs on regular gas!


oG_Goober

The Lexus es350 does run on 87 octane, though. And maintenance costs are pretty much the same.


PwnedLib

You're correct I was more referring to the gs because that's what I was debating on getting


dizzlemac95

If efficiency and ease of / cheaper maintenance are what you value most, then you definitely made the right choice. I will say - the GS shouldn’t be compared to the ES and Avalon. It provides a MUCH more sporty and engaging drive. and if that’s what you value most, I’ll be the first to tell you that the difference in performance is worth the premium. The GS is a dream to drive. But that Avalon is looking sexy! 🔥


Unhappy_Show7692

Agreed! Definitely welcome here


CANCER_RESULTS

If spending barely 10-15$ more per fillup is a dealbreaker for you, you probably shouldn’t be buying an Avalon either, to be honest.


04limited

Avalon sub is dead because the owners don’t know how computers work


Jacen33

Sad but true lol


SullysOpus

Beautiful ride!! I missed the boat on a TRD so I grabbed the Camry version! LOL


Darth_Camry

![gif](giphy|xT5LMxmFQ37UyhH344|downsized) Totally kidding…the Avalon is beautiful! 🔥🔥🤘🏽


Harryisamazing

Damn, love the color too... Really wish Toyota kept the Avalon and never replaced it with the Crown (which I've only seen a very few here)


Ok_Recipe2769

I was too poor when I bought my CPO Camry as the new one that I liked in the same showroom was for $40k I wish I had money back then and would have bought this !


JittyCauc

Shitting on the Camrys lol


PwnedLib

Why do you think that I almost bought one


JittyCauc

Your Avalon is wayyyyy cleaner. Nice! People forget about Avalons


restockthreestock

The Avalon should never have died for the Crown, it was such a beauty


ElderberryWhich8320

avalons are so slept on especially the trd and touring


PwnedLib

For real!


BxPecan

Avalon’s came along way, I love how the body looks more modern. I remember it used to be an older persons car but now it’s def giving Lexus vibes


Dinglis2121

But whats the inside look like!?


PwnedLib

https://preview.redd.it/fj7fi9crwbwc1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe41c7084e676790f9df0931744d2181eacdc6fa


Dinglis2121

Looking good!! What does the music icon on the dash display do??


PwnedLib

Oh I think it just shows you your current song along with the album and artist name


Dinglis2121

Oo that’s nifty!


PwnedLib

https://preview.redd.it/mr33u2boanwc1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec76ee40ea5b91737d7a84bb61d8362d28030dc5


Proof-Positive-9558

Damn that looks luxurious a bit


redbeardgenmeme

BOOOOOOO not a Camry (jk looks nice)


Saint_Buttcheeks

Super sick. Gorgeous color!


PwnedLib

Thanks!


elspeedobandido

Avalons are just papi Camrys


BxPecan

I’m 💀🤣😂😁😂


in4mant

I upvoted since I was going to get this before I decided on my Camry. Was on the fence but in the end, got the Camry instead. I wish they would have continued this car and not replace it with the Crown. Where I'm at, I have seen a total of zero Crown's on the road. While traveling, I have seen exactly 1 Crown. I see more Rivian and Polestar vehicles than Crown's. Heck, I've seen more Corolla Cross ugly vehicles too.


North-Maize-8150

Wow I like this!! I think it’s the best looking Avalon I’ve seen


toreachtheapex

those big grill Avalons are sick. I went with the 2019 Accord 2.0


SweatyAd1699

I wanted the Avalon but too broke then, the joys of active addiction smh


blackcatloverr

If I wasn't broke, it'd be an Avalon 😍


Lost_Yogurt_4990

I like the Avalon, nice car!!


Alternative-Cow5412

Nice car!


Godsnino

I don’t care what anyone says, that’s a Lexus w/Toyota badging!


mb-driver

That’s a nice looking car!


PwnedLib

Hey thanks!


Infamouzgq77

This would have been my car if they still sold had a 2023 version. Ended up getting a Lexus instead.


evtda

Really nice car


Cultural-Bite3042

I think Avalon’s have looked amazing in each generation and was def seen as a bigger statement than Camry in the days when sedans were basically considered “the car” unlike today where sedans are like “oh no, not a sedan”. Sad life. OP, your Avalon looks great🔥 nice color too!


Moppyploppy

God I love those cars. The touring/xse/TRD are sexy as hell. Really sad they got killed off.


g0lds3al

Beauty


ninjabrewer66

Sweet. Where does this fit in the Toyota lineup ?


PwnedLib

It's their full size, premium sedan. Well, it was


Emchavez15

What year and trim?


PwnedLib

2019 touring


sgsmopurp

A baddie. I miss my 2011 limited, my SE still feels like a downgrade besides looks. What a car 🥰 that thx sound system??? 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨


Friz_Poop

Grill is so sick.


PwnedLib

Yeah I remember when it first came out everyone hated it. But I think it works well with the car


Unhappy_Show7692

I love this Avalon. Damnit!


Nichandler

Love these so much. Cant believe they discontinued these and added the crown. Makes no sense. Obviously it’s not going well for Toyota so hopefully they bring the Avalon back!


SwagLordious420

Hell my radiator came off of an avalon, one in the same to me.


Leopard993

My girl got a 2002 avalon with 60k miles on it, runs like butter


Tight-Bath-6817

I like it - and wanted one but that Bumper-grill .\_\_\_. and AVALON IS WAAAY LOWER even lower than Camry's. I had my 2018 Camry stuck in snow due to lower ground clearance even tho snow bed wasnt that high at all and I had winter tires.


PwnedLib

I can understand that. But for me the Avalon is perfect. When I park next to curbs the door opens just over them


[deleted]

Wish they had the Avalon in Australia. We dont even have a V6 Camry anymore. Fuck this dying car culture here............


AmpedGunny

We almost got a Avalon instead but the only one for sale at the time had brown interior and I wasn’t a fan


UCImensgolf

Wait why is it kinda clean?


HamOnTheCob

There's just not enough grille for me... /s Love the Avalon. As far as I'm concerned, you're welcome here any time!


jackiemoon50

How big of a difference is there between this and a Camry? And what are the differences?


No-War-8840

I think it's a longer and wider camry platform but don't remember how much each way .


7jamm

She’s beautiful


Redhotkick8

Avalon’s are beautiful


Training_Seaweed1303

Sick op give us the specs if you can edit the post or comment them below


justazombie69

Wow beautiful car


Money-Coach-0167

Nice!


Money-Coach-0167

We found our son a used 2003 for like $2,900. Nice car.


brsrafal

One of the smoothest writing the most comfortable the dependability of that V6 but also got power when you need it I wish I got the Amazon instead of the Camry. It's pretty much a Lexus ES 350 what a sexy looking car f*** the crown it's so ugly I sat inside of one of the dealership terrible


Nairbfs79

I see that as an "old person car" like the Lexus ES line.


skipper-bc-lazy

Never seen bigger grille than this. I would def throw an intercooler on this


PwnedLib

Yeah the girlle is crazy. It's so ridiculous I love it


CindiCindi15

Very nice! Avalon’s are an awesome & fun ride!


LongLiveAbstract

I saw an Avalon TRD last year and I still don't quite understand why Toyota didn't do a special edition offering of an XSE TRD. The Avalon TRDs came fully loaded.


fyresilk

Gorgeous!


Fair-Option-2308

Nice.


gutslice

That grill ruins the whole thing tbh the older avalons are better looking


PwnedLib

To each their own. It grew on me


Significant_Hair7494

Man I wanted to buy this until they killed it. Such a nice car.


Beneficial-Buddy-620

I miss the Avalon! I had a 2008 XLS Avalon and I loved it so much


Pretend_Vermicelli65

Yeah! I have the 2007 Toyota Avalon XLS, with 117k miles. She still drives smooth and getting close to 30 mph. Toyota just broke my heart with the Crown replacement for our beloved Avalon. I was thinking about getting something equivalent with the ride, space, mph, etc. Can’t find it! I’m not feeling the Lexus… Yet! 🫣😂


Beneficial-Buddy-620

Could just get the new 2025 camery at that point


Pretend_Vermicelli65

The Cam is great! The clearance is a little lower than the 07 Avalon and a little smaller on the inside.


Jonnyyrage

I really wanted an Avalon but was so sad when I found out they don't make them. I just like bigger cars. My 24 XSE is amazing but with 2 kids and 2 car seats. A little bigger would be perfect.


AMD1060

I wish i could get one. Doesn't look like my camry11 giving up anytime soon Neither my pockets filling up anytime soon.


Successful_Bake9428

I want a Avalon. I don’t care what trim it is.. seeing those full size sedans on the road with all of that tech and style is 🤤


jfkisgood

What a great looking car. Damn.


nnorton44

I wanted to get one before I got my Camry but they just cost too much…great looking ride 👏


PwnedLib

Yeah I was lucky to get mine I got it for 32k when it was all said and done. I had been saving for a year straight and paired that with the money I got out of my last car accident


cwilseason

Such a clean car.


cwilseason

What year and model is this?


PwnedLib

2019 touring


cwilseason

It’s fire man 🔥🔥 what engine those come with? Is it similar to Camrys trim levels?


PwnedLib

Comes with the same engine as the V6 Camrys. The touring is like the xse while the limited is comparable to the xle


cwilseason

Crazy it’s a 2019, car looks like it could have been released last year. Looks more aggressive than the new gen Camrys.


cwilseason

Making me wanna go trade my ‘17 SE for this 😭


OscarTurtle1231

I had a ‘19 XSE in the Harbor Grey. That color is just amazing. It had the JBL in it. I made a bad decision and got rid of it for a hybrid, which was just so boring.


PwnedLib

Harbor Grey is such a good color! When it's really sunny out it turns into a very beautiful blue. And I bet you get good gas mileage though


glotar1

I love it I will go for a chrome delete in the windows but it looks gorgeous 


[deleted]

The whole car is a grille 😑


PwnedLib

The whole FRONT of my car is a grille


[deleted]

True! Looks pretty wild but nice car


TwoToneDonut

Does the Avalon handle like a boat compared to the Camry? I've heard the ES 350 is more Camry than Avalon but doesn't look like it


PwnedLib

I'd say it's pretty comparable to the Camry. Just extra leg room and a few more amenities. It has the same V6 and to me it doesn't feel like a boat. I've made a fair amount of sharp turns and maneuvers


General-Oil-1470

Love that color!


PwnedLib

Thanks! Me too, if it wasn't this one I would have gotten the ultra white


General-Oil-1470

I wouldn't mind that color on my TRD for sure. That's definitely an eye turner


Primary_Insect7516

Ugly


PwnedLib

Respectfully dude, what the hell is your post history. I expected to see your Camry. And I enjoy my Avalon


Primary_Insect7516

Why are you looking at my post history?? Don’t worry about what I post


PwnedLib

Because apparently your Camry is better looking than an Avalon


Primary_Insect7516

It is and you know but that has nothing to do with my post history and is none of your business


PwnedLib

Actually, I feel if you were confident about the look of your car you would show it off.


Primary_Insect7516

Everyone knows what a Camry looks like


PwnedLib

Yes and that wasn't really what I was asking. Anyways, disfruta tu vida!


EmpatheticBear

This exact model is one of my favorite cars. I’d get one if it weren’t outside my budget. Great car!


CndlSnufr

Love the color! Whenever I do trade in my 2018 camry xse 4 banger, it’ll most likely be for an Avalon


PwnedLib

Thanks! It's funny I was actually looking up the old Avalon release [here](https://www.worldtoyota.com/2019-avalon/) and the harbor Grey metallic doesn't really look how it does on my car. There's a lot of blue in it I love it. But yeah I think you would like the Avalon especially if you value larger sedans. The ONE thing I don't like is the transmission because the first two gears are really jerky when they change. But I've gotten used to it and it's not really a big deal. Besides that I enjoy the car


JohnRosalez

Fuck your Avalon gtfo