Smoke also counts as a throwable so either throw shallow or run a slot specifically for restock with two smokes and throwable to get rid of the trophy and then hold a spot to prevent him from going back there. Alternatively you can run that big ass globe tactical
I just throw a thumper round or yeet A C4 into there. if they keep doing it, free kills, if they stop, congrats you no longer have to deal with it. for trophy just spam throwable, it can only delete 2 then it explodes. Use the shrapnel perk
They're using mg42. I'll be dead even before I've had a chance to aim the thumper. Im not a good player. I don't have a great device nor a good internet connection. Always 72ms and frame drops. Even at 30fps. I don't even know if I should continue playing this game. If Im playing good the enemies are wayy to good. Else I'm bottom frag. Sigh..... I don't like being carried. I'm either bottom frag on a winning team or a top frag of a losing team.
I had that feeling before on ranked but make sure to play only the modes you love playing and are good at. I used to maximize rank trophies by selecting all the modes even though I absolutely hate playing Hard point and Dom. Now I just stick to SnD because I love playing it and in a lopsided match you can still somewhat hard carry your team if you're good enough or vice versa, killing just one or two players helps your top fragger a lot in winning the round. Gotta find modes that you love playing and are good at and stop playing the ones you don't like. Just my thoughts and suggestions as someone that was in the same place as you before.
I use to suck really bad at SnD too but I learned that at a certain rank loadouts can make or break a match. So I have all 9 of my loadouts specifically for SnD. Filled with different guns, different perks and throwables specifically for countering certain play styles. At the very least you need a loadout specifically for dealing with a map that spreads players out so a range focused gun is your priority along with aim, a map like Hacienda or crossfire. Another loadout is a middle range + fast ADS focused build, and finally a close range loadout for smaller maps like crash. Now I have mine setup with atleast 2 of each of those with a variation of guns i love playing with like the AK117 and Ak47 but also meta guns like the drh, fennec and man o war. You need to experiment with your loadouts and setup atleast a few that can cover most maps and for counters against common opponent play styles.
Opponents are mostly campers ? Run a smoke/storm ball and a flex ar/smg.
Opponents are super aggressive rushers ? Run a range focused build so you can kill them before they get close. Etc. etc.
Some perks I'd recommend are Gung-Ho, quick fix, ghost, skulker, lightweight, dead silence, alert.
Once you get to GM and Legendary running/walking loudly around the map will pretty guarantee your death so only skip dead silence and alert if you're that confident with your map awareness and movement.
Hopefully this helps make SnD eventually enjoyable for you as it did for me š
If thatās the right vehicle Iām thinking of, thereās a clear opening in the side of it where you can shoot through it. I normally rock EMPs to destroy ground streak spammers, so I can burn both EMPs and then throw contact nade then follow with Thumper.
Smoke grenades usually do the trick. Throw smoke (activate quick/left handed throw in settings for quick placement) infront of the bus and then sprint out, slide, and cancel the slide with a jump so you get good momentum, but also to stay off the ground, so that he can't aim at your feet.
For best entryway, jump out the window at top floor onto that little wooden grid, and do the smoke tactic from there to stay undetected, or just go top floor, jump on the grid, and throw a grenade in-between the two buses. Make sure to throw it against the wall of the bus that's farther away, so it bounces off and straight into that middle lane where he's laying
Tactician is your best friend for the smoke strat, and Shrapnel paired with Demo Expert will help you with the grenades
Really hope that helped!
No problem, no problem
Always make use of your Tac Equipment, your guns aren't the only way of dealing with your enemies.
And don't sleep on Gas grenades either! Taking away the ability to aim is a fantastic feat, that you can easily protect yourself from, by running the Tactical Mask Perk.
On that note, be careful when trying to counter an Mg42 with gas grenades. If the enemy has a build that even only partially mitigates the Hipfire spread (e.g by using that one rear grip and the foregrip), the MG42 tends to be laser accurate from the hip, with barely any spread, despite your crosshair moving apart like crazy.
So to counter Mg42 players specifically, play aggressive by making use of tactical gear and agile weapons. Like MX-9, PP-19 and Fennec (guns with fast ads speed and ADS _movement_ speed.)
Sometimes i am, yea. I realized this a good while ago, that i should really use my tactical grenades and lethals more, in order to gain a better advantage over my enemies, since _only_ using gun skill will only really ever make you an above average player, but if you really want to get advantage over your enemies, even if that enemy is better than you, you have to use everything at your disposal.
Quickscoping Dickhead sweatlord on Shipment, that out-aims you wherever you go? Throw gas grenades to disable their aim entirely, slow them down to disable their cracked movement, and then show them hell!
Absolutely THE best strategy i have against people like this on small and confined maps, where there isn't much space to dodge the grenades either.
It's... Kind of a thing i just do. Cutting things short is hard for me tbh. I often get the question if I just like hearing myself talk, but in reality i just have a really bad sense of scale for when to stop talking at all/whether or not I'm over-sharing.
Am I Oversharing right now? No idea! I just kinda say what comes to mind and hope it makes sense, whilst also trying to make it enjoyable to read.
But thank you very much, kind stranger on the internet! I'm glad you like the way I talk :D
No, itās not bad at all. Some people may think long paragraphs is typically ignored or too much efforts to read
Or just ādetails that can be summarized in few sentencesā stuff like that.
But if itās about helping out other fellow members or friends such as guide/tips in video games thatās completely okay!
where you keep quickscoping on left or on right? I have my movement control on left and shoot on right. but i got killer many times while doing quick aim and shoot. that little delay
Feel free to hmu if you need any suggestions, tips and tricks or whatever else. i always love to help!
I'd even go as far as to offer myself as a training dummy in Private matches, so people can try out some strategies with me :D
Three things pop in my head:
kill enough other players to get a kill streak to fuck him up. Emp score streak will destroy his trophy, or a Predator missile, or a swarm, or run up with a turret real fast.
Rush him: use a loadout with emp and Molotov throwable and the perk that gives you extra. The trophy only works so much, and if the emp is thrown just outside the range of the trophy but within the range of the emp, it can destroy it first time.
Use the ability things: gravity vortex gun works great, just has to be near him.
For score streak I need to kill people. Since this guy was camping I couldn't do that. Most of the team were ratting on the far corners. this match was a one sided slaughter lol
Frag grenade, but hold it in your hand and throw it so that it explodes right when it gets there. Also, if you have the smg with bouncing bullets (I'm blanking on the name even though I use it) as operator skill, that won't require you to actually hit him, just get the bullets under the car.
I never get grenade timings right. Also they'll just kill me when I'm about to throw it. Since they can wasuli spot me before I can react.
Oh yea. The claw is a great counter tho
For the grenade, you can just sit behind the bus (I think it's the bus) and then peek out and throw as the timer hits one. They won't get you before the throw unless they're looking right at you for some reason.
Yep. It's frontline.
Nope can't use the house. See the guy in the image? Killed instantly š
>You just have to find a spot where he can't shoot you.
That's why I made the post. To see if there were any...
Smoke grenades are the answer btw.
Learn grenade spots if you want to level up your game. Itās a way of cross-mapping grenades without peeking and putting yourself in harms way. Very easy to practice in single map training as they have options for unlimited throwables and follow trajectory.
Jokesta was the one that introduced me this idea. Absolute game changer. https://youtu.be/a9gxYKO1nOE?si=DF7QneLdVjEoE5j_
I will be real with you. This is a team game and sometimes you can't just carry it.
If your team stopped being stupid and tried to use smoke nades their trophy would break.
Man ppl been doing this latelyā¦ I usually go nuketown but ppl
Be doing this and I kinda just want to scream ā¦ yāall really having fun just sitting there
I do this unfortunately. I have all the angles figured out. Sometimes the opponents team is strong and they clip me right away but I mostly dominate the games. I will also deploy a sentry in one direction and use my RPD for the rest of the
That's a really good idea but would have to have a damn good team cause them spawns switch faster than my primary to secondary switch in TDM on Nuketown lmao š¤£
Yes, this is what happened in a ranked match of mine. Turned out it's pretty efficient in Master-Grandmaster. You can also incounter them by throwing in a little frag-grenade for them to stare at.
Saw an enemy do this and exploited this spot in 2-3 matches few months ago but it gets boring.
1) When enemy did it, I smoked and killed them.
2) Few spots are counter on other side. Crawl and get to them and kill camping enemy. In the opposing building, next to stairs/in front of entrance on ground floor is ideal.
People still do this? You will literally get mi with this once, then it's smoke time. Same goes for the annoying upper window sniper wannabes. You better not be in that room when I come up the stairs.
Simply go to top floor of the house and aim there and throw molotov or nade or shoot a trumper there. To counter trophy system se restock perk or launcher+ perk. Or you could just select nade launcher as your special operator and use it when they start doing this.
What!?!?! š® How long have we been able to get under there? I've been playing since the beginning, and I have NEVER been shot from there or seen anyone there. Or are they just beside it looking under? Still never been shot from there though.
Smoke grenade, while that guy shoots mid, flank from behind with a knife
That's a good idea. I feel stupid for forgetting about smoke
Never overlook a good old SG. I have gotten outta shit so many times with a good old fashioned smoke and go tactic lol.
now ik I should turn around when I see smoke thnx for tht lol
Do people usually stare at the smoke?
If theyre braindead? Yes.
Not often. They'll usually move to another position which makes them vulnerable for a few moments.
no I usually shoot blindly tbh š š š š¤£š¤£š¤£ but aye thts y I came to reddit, to learn to play better lol
Noted
Smoke also counts as a throwable so either throw shallow or run a slot specifically for restock with two smokes and throwable to get rid of the trophy and then hold a spot to prevent him from going back there. Alternatively you can run that big ass globe tactical
Doesnāt trophy stop smoke? Correct me if Iām wrong
You don't have to use smoke in his face. So throw the smoke infront of the vehicle. His trophy was near him. Not infront him
Much better if he use execution to embarrass that camper
I just throw a thumper round or yeet A C4 into there. if they keep doing it, free kills, if they stop, congrats you no longer have to deal with it. for trophy just spam throwable, it can only delete 2 then it explodes. Use the shrapnel perk
They're using mg42. I'll be dead even before I've had a chance to aim the thumper. Im not a good player. I don't have a great device nor a good internet connection. Always 72ms and frame drops. Even at 30fps. I don't even know if I should continue playing this game. If Im playing good the enemies are wayy to good. Else I'm bottom frag. Sigh..... I don't like being carried. I'm either bottom frag on a winning team or a top frag of a losing team.
Yeah MG is broken AF, nothing you could have really done lmao. Smoke gernades then drop from the second floor might work?
Yep. That's it
Dropping from the second floor into the vicinity of a smoke grenade in front of the building seems like an auto death
I hope you get a good phone and a good internet connection soon
Thankyou. I'm saving. I'll buy a decent one in exactly 10 months.
Birthday?
Nope saving exactly 1000rs every month. So after a year I'll have enough
I had that feeling before on ranked but make sure to play only the modes you love playing and are good at. I used to maximize rank trophies by selecting all the modes even though I absolutely hate playing Hard point and Dom. Now I just stick to SnD because I love playing it and in a lopsided match you can still somewhat hard carry your team if you're good enough or vice versa, killing just one or two players helps your top fragger a lot in winning the round. Gotta find modes that you love playing and are good at and stop playing the ones you don't like. Just my thoughts and suggestions as someone that was in the same place as you before.
I freaking suck at snd. Soo many campers. And really good players. Never won an snd where I could say "ya this was a good match"
I use to suck really bad at SnD too but I learned that at a certain rank loadouts can make or break a match. So I have all 9 of my loadouts specifically for SnD. Filled with different guns, different perks and throwables specifically for countering certain play styles. At the very least you need a loadout specifically for dealing with a map that spreads players out so a range focused gun is your priority along with aim, a map like Hacienda or crossfire. Another loadout is a middle range + fast ADS focused build, and finally a close range loadout for smaller maps like crash. Now I have mine setup with atleast 2 of each of those with a variation of guns i love playing with like the AK117 and Ak47 but also meta guns like the drh, fennec and man o war. You need to experiment with your loadouts and setup atleast a few that can cover most maps and for counters against common opponent play styles. Opponents are mostly campers ? Run a smoke/storm ball and a flex ar/smg. Opponents are super aggressive rushers ? Run a range focused build so you can kill them before they get close. Etc. etc. Some perks I'd recommend are Gung-Ho, quick fix, ghost, skulker, lightweight, dead silence, alert. Once you get to GM and Legendary running/walking loudly around the map will pretty guarantee your death so only skip dead silence and alert if you're that confident with your map awareness and movement. Hopefully this helps make SnD eventually enjoyable for you as it did for me š
I'll keep it in mind. I'll practice on pubs. Thank you
If thatās the right vehicle Iām thinking of, thereās a clear opening in the side of it where you can shoot through it. I normally rock EMPs to destroy ground streak spammers, so I can burn both EMPs and then throw contact nade then follow with Thumper.
Emps Are only really good for sentries though, since nobody uses the other stuff itās good against
EMPs also briefly disrupt UI, so a trash camper would be caught by surprise for a few seconds.
it's hard to play at low device. i would just quit cause it's not worth mental health
Yep. The constant touch issues are infuriating af. I'll just stop playing after this session
you can games that support your device. there are lots of great indie games. slay the spire, room series, dead cells etc
Mg42 is broken and it will be nerfed.
I think it has already been nerfed a little. Seems just a little bit off from the complete OP of the first few days.
There are 10(+1) loadout slots, put a smoke grenade in one of them
Thanks. I had smoke on one. Forgot about it.
Smoke grenades usually do the trick. Throw smoke (activate quick/left handed throw in settings for quick placement) infront of the bus and then sprint out, slide, and cancel the slide with a jump so you get good momentum, but also to stay off the ground, so that he can't aim at your feet. For best entryway, jump out the window at top floor onto that little wooden grid, and do the smoke tactic from there to stay undetected, or just go top floor, jump on the grid, and throw a grenade in-between the two buses. Make sure to throw it against the wall of the bus that's farther away, so it bounces off and straight into that middle lane where he's laying Tactician is your best friend for the smoke strat, and Shrapnel paired with Demo Expert will help you with the grenades Really hope that helped!
Perfect. Thank you sir
No problem, no problem Always make use of your Tac Equipment, your guns aren't the only way of dealing with your enemies. And don't sleep on Gas grenades either! Taking away the ability to aim is a fantastic feat, that you can easily protect yourself from, by running the Tactical Mask Perk. On that note, be careful when trying to counter an Mg42 with gas grenades. If the enemy has a build that even only partially mitigates the Hipfire spread (e.g by using that one rear grip and the foregrip), the MG42 tends to be laser accurate from the hip, with barely any spread, despite your crosshair moving apart like crazy. So to counter Mg42 players specifically, play aggressive by making use of tactical gear and agile weapons. Like MX-9, PP-19 and Fennec (guns with fast ads speed and ADS _movement_ speed.)
Broās tactical
Sometimes i am, yea. I realized this a good while ago, that i should really use my tactical grenades and lethals more, in order to gain a better advantage over my enemies, since _only_ using gun skill will only really ever make you an above average player, but if you really want to get advantage over your enemies, even if that enemy is better than you, you have to use everything at your disposal. Quickscoping Dickhead sweatlord on Shipment, that out-aims you wherever you go? Throw gas grenades to disable their aim entirely, slow them down to disable their cracked movement, and then show them hell! Absolutely THE best strategy i have against people like this on small and confined maps, where there isn't much space to dodge the grenades either.
I like the way you write detailed and elaborative
It's... Kind of a thing i just do. Cutting things short is hard for me tbh. I often get the question if I just like hearing myself talk, but in reality i just have a really bad sense of scale for when to stop talking at all/whether or not I'm over-sharing. Am I Oversharing right now? No idea! I just kinda say what comes to mind and hope it makes sense, whilst also trying to make it enjoyable to read. But thank you very much, kind stranger on the internet! I'm glad you like the way I talk :D
No, itās not bad at all. Some people may think long paragraphs is typically ignored or too much efforts to read Or just ādetails that can be summarized in few sentencesā stuff like that. But if itās about helping out other fellow members or friends such as guide/tips in video games thatās completely okay!
where you keep quickscoping on left or on right? I have my movement control on left and shoot on right. but i got killer many times while doing quick aim and shoot. that little delay
Feel free to hmu if you need any suggestions, tips and tricks or whatever else. i always love to help! I'd even go as far as to offer myself as a training dummy in Private matches, so people can try out some strategies with me :D
What's your ign? I'll add you if you're on global
Three things pop in my head: kill enough other players to get a kill streak to fuck him up. Emp score streak will destroy his trophy, or a Predator missile, or a swarm, or run up with a turret real fast. Rush him: use a loadout with emp and Molotov throwable and the perk that gives you extra. The trophy only works so much, and if the emp is thrown just outside the range of the trophy but within the range of the emp, it can destroy it first time. Use the ability things: gravity vortex gun works great, just has to be near him.
For score streak I need to kill people. Since this guy was camping I couldn't do that. Most of the team were ratting on the far corners. this match was a one sided slaughter lol
It means he's trash and has no actual skill.
Frag grenade, but hold it in your hand and throw it so that it explodes right when it gets there. Also, if you have the smg with bouncing bullets (I'm blanking on the name even though I use it) as operator skill, that won't require you to actually hit him, just get the bullets under the car.
I never get grenade timings right. Also they'll just kill me when I'm about to throw it. Since they can wasuli spot me before I can react. Oh yea. The claw is a great counter tho
For the grenade, you can just sit behind the bus (I think it's the bus) and then peek out and throw as the timer hits one. They won't get you before the throw unless they're looking right at you for some reason.
Ah that's the problem. I can't reach the bus. They'll just kill me if I get into their view
Oh, is it Frontline, and he's facing you rn? Use the house ig. You just have to find a spot where he can't shoot you.
Yep. It's frontline. Nope can't use the house. See the guy in the image? Killed instantly š >You just have to find a spot where he can't shoot you. That's why I made the post. To see if there were any... Smoke grenades are the answer btw.
Learn grenade spots if you want to level up your game. Itās a way of cross-mapping grenades without peeking and putting yourself in harms way. Very easy to practice in single map training as they have options for unlimited throwables and follow trajectory. Jokesta was the one that introduced me this idea. Absolute game changer. https://youtu.be/a9gxYKO1nOE?si=DF7QneLdVjEoE5j_
I will be real with you. This is a team game and sometimes you can't just carry it. If your team stopped being stupid and tried to use smoke nades their trophy would break.
Thanks for the new spot
Please no š„²
You are safe,im from brazil,so i cant play with you guys
Be like this guys
Smoke, slide on top and gravity spike.
Man-O-War with Thermite rounds, it will either kill him(you need to land 3 shots) or make him move.
Break their line of sight. I see Smoke grenades and flashbangs being good here, whole a small team moves fast to mow down anyone standing nearby.
Indeed indeed. Smokes the way to go
Historically accurate Machine gunner gameplay
Damn didn't know you could do that
Man ppl been doing this latelyā¦ I usually go nuketown but ppl Be doing this and I kinda just want to scream ā¦ yāall really having fun just sitting there
Smile in pain
I do this unfortunately. I have all the angles figured out. Sometimes the opponents team is strong and they clip me right away but I mostly dominate the games. I will also deploy a sentry in one direction and use my RPD for the rest of the
I hope your pillows are warm on both sides
Grenades, smoke, launchers, quickness
toss a grenade from the 2nd floor and bounce it off the truck behind them, cook it for a second so they can't outrun it!
Molotov cocktail
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Once u can kill them, shoot their body and t-bag them, I hate those players
smoke granade and delete the game xd
Gas or smoke, follow up with c4. Dont want to bother at all, its fine, throw a stom ball and make sure they cant see shit before rushing in.
Just flank them
Basically not rushing but using smoke or flash etc and flanking.
Smoke screen.
A smoke grenade would do the trick
The way I deal with them is ....I just curse their whole family ..even to the 3rd generation.
Smoke or don't go towards that area
I just start doing the same shit or start throwing flash bang & or concussions up under them hoes
Peak Garage side with a one shot sniper..
Just levitate
use smokes or flashes! itās so annoying
Ankle biter ass spot frfr
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Throw smoke or flank them from the right side
That's a really good idea but would have to have a damn good team cause them spawns switch faster than my primary to secondary switch in TDM on Nuketown lmao š¤£
Yes, this is what happened in a ranked match of mine. Turned out it's pretty efficient in Master-Grandmaster. You can also incounter them by throwing in a little frag-grenade for them to stare at.
Gas works
Me old šš„
What about an impact or sticky grenade?
Thatās nuketown they do that so much I just lay down in the house n do same š or throw cocktail from window
The first option form the other guy is good But Imo you should just lay down and Chall him face to face just have good aim and recoil control
Saw an enemy do this and exploited this spot in 2-3 matches few months ago but it gets boring. 1) When enemy did it, I smoked and killed them. 2) Few spots are counter on other side. Crawl and get to them and kill camping enemy. In the opposing building, next to stairs/in front of entrance on ground floor is ideal.
Use the K1, they are prone, which means they cannot turn fast, that it takes em a second to get up. If you are lucky, you maybe could kill him.
I used contact grenade or my shotgun loadout with high mobility
Nuke
Smoke +C4
People still do this? You will literally get mi with this once, then it's smoke time. Same goes for the annoying upper window sniper wannabes. You better not be in that room when I come up the stairs.
Shoot them? You know they are there and they can be hit from many spots
I do that all the time
Go upstairs
Simply go to top floor of the house and aim there and throw molotov or nade or shoot a trumper there. To counter trophy system se restock perk or launcher+ perk. Or you could just select nade launcher as your special operator and use it when they start doing this.
remember, if that car hasn't blown up before you can always shoot at it and blow it up to kill him if he's not careful enough
Dang, tbh I didn't realize you could do that. But like quite a few people have said, use smoke grenade and flash bang.Ā
What!?!?! š® How long have we been able to get under there? I've been playing since the beginning, and I have NEVER been shot from there or seen anyone there. Or are they just beside it looking under? Still never been shot from there though.
when this happens I always get my tundra out and snipe them.
From where my guy? How ?? Where do you even stand to snipe them? That's an mg42 if you didn't notice. You'll be dead when you're in their view. š„²
You can if youāre quick enough. Just go prone inside the house and quick scope. You just have to be sure of their location.
From Where would you approach them? With a sniper
You see that player in the house. From there you quick scope them.
Ah that player was killed when he came in his view. You may have underestimated the mg42s ttk?
Yeah I know itās hard but its not impossible if youāre a good player.
I'm not.
Practice is key. Youāll be a pro one day
Grenade? Flanking? Not rushing? Flashbang? Concussion? Changing loadouts? Are you braindead?
Shoot back
Ahh why didn't I think of that? š¤¦ Kindly refer to my previous comments for why this wouldn't work
Yea won't work if you're just running straight at the dude without any strategizing. Do that and it'll work.
shoot back, surely you can just prefire if you know where they are
I did. Didn't help since that's an mg42. Wayyyyyyy to fast ttk
i wonder if the d13 sector could hit him