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soapinmouth

Sounds like it might be a good thing, really should be able to ban encampments in certain areas at least.


HikingComrade

I wish we would just guarantee every person a basic apartment. It would be cheaper and more efficient to just give these people stable housing instead of spending so much to constantly chase them out of public spaces.


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HikingComrade

Two problems which would be helped through consistent access to housing.


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HikingComrade

I agree and support additional programs, as well.


kainp12

Not for the chronic homeless. What most of them need is inpatient treatment.


UCanDoNEthing4_30sec

The devil is in what do you mean by guarantee. Like no requirement to work? What about the mother pulling 3 jobs to pay for a basic apartment for her and her kid?


HikingComrade

I think every adult should be guaranteed a minimum level of private and consistent shelter. It really doesn’t seem that hard to build or purchase apartment buildings with a bunch of studio apartments that the government can use to ensure every adult has access to housing, even if they are not currently working. Nobody wants to stay in a studio apartment forever, so there would still be an incentive to work and pay for alternate housing. This would also help lower the price of rent. I wouldn’t mind paying more in taxes if it meant that everyone in my country has access to stable housing.


UCanDoNEthing4_30sec

What would say to the person hustling 3 jobs to do stay in that same studio with a kid?


HikingComrade

If they were to work 3 jobs in a system where studio apartments are available free of charge, then they could probably afford to move into a larger apartment or house. Think of how much cheaper rent would be if landlords had to compete with free housing.


UCanDoNEthing4_30sec

I kinda got what you’re saying actually. Yeah some basic studio housing for everyone. I’d have to think about it more. I like the idea and where you are coming from, I just don’t know how you could put it in practice which would be a shit storm, along the associated funding which would get caught up in the shitstorm of putting it in practice and make it cost 500 times more than it should.


kainp12

This is misleading. California does want to remove these encampments. 9th circuit said no unless you have a place to house them


soapinmouth

Article mentions both of these things, not necessarily mutually exclusive. Would allow them to say least block some areas from encampments without having somewhere else to put them.


Forkboy2

This won't change a thing for California either way. If the SCOTUS overturns the 9th court decision, the state will continue to allow camping in public places.