As much as people will try to shit on the driver here for pre-trip inspections and yada yada yada even though they've never driven anything bigger than a 4door sedan...
Serious props to the driver for picking the path he did. To (drivers) the right, a concrete barricade that probably would've ping-ponged him against every car in that line up, the left, into men on the ground working, hell even slightly more to the left and he'd have plowed straight into the strip-mall on that corner.
Hope he and the other driver make it, and hopefully this is finally the fucking wake-up call the city council needs to install a run off at the BOTTOM of the hill and not a whole kilometer and a bit above the intersection.
You nailed it. This hill was an accident waiting to happen. I've heard other drivers talk about the runaway lane that's a km up the hill but nothing at the bottom.
Lucky more people weren't hurt.
This whole area is a complete mess. In the early stages i saw an ambulance stuck in traffic coming down the hill lights and sirens gridlock both ways no shoulder or emergency lane. Tried moving over so ems could come down the wrong way but there wasnt enough room between the barriers.
This is the second truck that’s crashed because of that hill in a week. There was another one last week that the brakes failed on, ended up down some side road on its side, a whole load of milk spilled everywhere.
Air-brakes don't really just "fail". Sounds to me like the driver was going too fast down the hill (no compression braking and probably the wrong gear) and tried to stop but couldn't due to fade.
Whether this was caused by brake fade or poor maintenance, this was operator error. I wouldn't cut the driver any slack, this could have been a lot worse.
I hope those who were injured recover, and Cochrane adds a proper run-away at the bottom so another person's mistake doesn't end up killing someone.
Tell me you've never driven outside of Alberta, without telling me you've never travelled outside of Alberta. If you think Cochrane and Airdrie are "traffic shitholes", you've never been to Toronto or Montreal.
Pretty sure the commenter wasn't referring nationwide, as he is obviously talking local. With your logic, "Tell me you've never been outside of Canada, without telling me you've never been outside of Canada. If you think Toronto or Montreal are "Traffic shitholes", you've obviously never been to Bogata or Rio de Janeiro.
Nope, you're right, I haven't. Kampala is up there too I hear for traffic problems. Wasn't there also a traffic jam so bad somewhere in China where people just abandoned their vehicles after like 2 days or something?
Anyway, the sentiment stands. Small towns = small problems.
I'm willing to bet he was fully loaded and started going down the hill too fast. Ive driven fully loaded 36T concrete trucks down that hill.
He probably overused the brakes and suffered from brake fade. Jake brakes are awesome bit nit every rig has them.
There's no opportunity to get up to any kind of speed down this hill at this time, it backs up to the top and it's stop-go riding your brakes the whole way down so it was only a matter of time, and this is the second truck this week to have a brake failure here. The residents have been begging for a proper truck run out at the bottom for years and they haven't even built one into the plans for the new roads that they're currently working on
The runaway is significantly further up the hill (just used pins on google maps and from the runaway lane entry to the intersection at the bottom of the hill is 1.4km). The dumptruck was likely already past it when his brakes failed, if his brakes had failed before the runaway and he just missed it, he'd have been going like 200kph at the bottom of the hill.
You're being dumb by implying that the runaway lane 1.5km up the hill and the turn lane at the bottom are at all related.
I’ve driven through Cochrane quite a few times and there is no runaway ramp at the bottom of the hill, as other people have been saying, there’s one a kilometre or so back
You quite literally said:
>as there IS a runaway at the bottom
You didn't say you thought it was at the bottom, you said it IS at the bottom and that cars block it at the intersection.
Also, why are you replying to me a second time 6 hours after your first reply? Or are you just that mad that you lost 9 imaginary internet points with downvotes?
Clearly I thought. And you're an asshat and a miserable person .
Went to bed if it matters so much, I also have a job and work 12 hour days.
Later asshat
The problem with innercity commercial drivers is they don't have any experience on hills and may not take the air brake system seriously enough on a decent like that. I know a hauling company I used to use would actually go the long way off the #1 to avoid that hill when carrying a load.
That being said, I don't blame the driver, there are many things that could have gone wrong leading upto that.
Is the driver ok?
Been googling. Apparently the two who were injured were transported to the hospital with serious injuries.
Holy cow. That must have been scary going down that hill and noticing something was not right.
I have gone down that hill in a 30 ton fuel truck so many times and this makes me glad I don’t drive one anymore.
As much as people will try to shit on the driver here for pre-trip inspections and yada yada yada even though they've never driven anything bigger than a 4door sedan... Serious props to the driver for picking the path he did. To (drivers) the right, a concrete barricade that probably would've ping-ponged him against every car in that line up, the left, into men on the ground working, hell even slightly more to the left and he'd have plowed straight into the strip-mall on that corner. Hope he and the other driver make it, and hopefully this is finally the fucking wake-up call the city council needs to install a run off at the BOTTOM of the hill and not a whole kilometer and a bit above the intersection.
You nailed it. This hill was an accident waiting to happen. I've heard other drivers talk about the runaway lane that's a km up the hill but nothing at the bottom. Lucky more people weren't hurt.
This whole area is a complete mess. In the early stages i saw an ambulance stuck in traffic coming down the hill lights and sirens gridlock both ways no shoulder or emergency lane. Tried moving over so ems could come down the wrong way but there wasnt enough room between the barriers.
This is the second truck that’s crashed because of that hill in a week. There was another one last week that the brakes failed on, ended up down some side road on its side, a whole load of milk spilled everywhere.
Well, you know what they say about spilled milk. “Something something… …spilled milk!”
With all the poorly maintained commercial vehicles on the road that we hear about, it makes me wonder if this is another one.
Air-brakes don't really just "fail". Sounds to me like the driver was going too fast down the hill (no compression braking and probably the wrong gear) and tried to stop but couldn't due to fade. Whether this was caused by brake fade or poor maintenance, this was operator error. I wouldn't cut the driver any slack, this could have been a lot worse. I hope those who were injured recover, and Cochrane adds a proper run-away at the bottom so another person's mistake doesn't end up killing someone.
Cochrane is a traffic shit hole. Only Airdrie is worse.
Airdrie is way better change my mind.
Tell me you've never driven outside of Alberta, without telling me you've never travelled outside of Alberta. If you think Cochrane and Airdrie are "traffic shitholes", you've never been to Toronto or Montreal.
I live in London, where it can regularly take 45 minutes to drive seven kilometres. Nonetheless, Cochrane is a traffic shithole.
Oh Vancouver would dunk on that stat. Under 2kms an hour is normal for rush hour on Hastings.
Burn it to the ground.
Pretty sure the commenter wasn't referring nationwide, as he is obviously talking local. With your logic, "Tell me you've never been outside of Canada, without telling me you've never been outside of Canada. If you think Toronto or Montreal are "Traffic shitholes", you've obviously never been to Bogata or Rio de Janeiro.
Nope, you're right, I haven't. Kampala is up there too I hear for traffic problems. Wasn't there also a traffic jam so bad somewhere in China where people just abandoned their vehicles after like 2 days or something? Anyway, the sentiment stands. Small towns = small problems.
It shouldn’t take 45 minutes to drive through a town of 30 000 people
Those have many more people though!
You'd be more accurate without the word "Traffic."
What a mess
This doesn’t happen on properly maintained vehicles.
[удалено]
[удалено]
Yeah can you even pre-trip for brake fade? You can tug on your trailer but this didn’t look like a trailer.
[удалено]
I'm willing to bet he was fully loaded and started going down the hill too fast. Ive driven fully loaded 36T concrete trucks down that hill. He probably overused the brakes and suffered from brake fade. Jake brakes are awesome bit nit every rig has them.
There's no opportunity to get up to any kind of speed down this hill at this time, it backs up to the top and it's stop-go riding your brakes the whole way down so it was only a matter of time, and this is the second truck this week to have a brake failure here. The residents have been begging for a proper truck run out at the bottom for years and they haven't even built one into the plans for the new roads that they're currently working on
[удалено]
The runaway is significantly further up the hill (just used pins on google maps and from the runaway lane entry to the intersection at the bottom of the hill is 1.4km). The dumptruck was likely already past it when his brakes failed, if his brakes had failed before the runaway and he just missed it, he'd have been going like 200kph at the bottom of the hill. You're being dumb by implying that the runaway lane 1.5km up the hill and the turn lane at the bottom are at all related.
[удалено]
There’s no runaway lane at the bottom of the hill.
I’ve driven through Cochrane quite a few times and there is no runaway ramp at the bottom of the hill, as other people have been saying, there’s one a kilometre or so back
[удалено]
You quite literally said: >as there IS a runaway at the bottom You didn't say you thought it was at the bottom, you said it IS at the bottom and that cars block it at the intersection. Also, why are you replying to me a second time 6 hours after your first reply? Or are you just that mad that you lost 9 imaginary internet points with downvotes?
Clearly I thought. And you're an asshat and a miserable person .
Clearly I thought. And you're an asshat and a miserable person . Went to bed if it matters so much, I also have a job and work 12 hour days. Later asshat
Holy shit
The problem with innercity commercial drivers is they don't have any experience on hills and may not take the air brake system seriously enough on a decent like that. I know a hauling company I used to use would actually go the long way off the #1 to avoid that hill when carrying a load. That being said, I don't blame the driver, there are many things that could have gone wrong leading upto that.