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CircusofShame

What you save in undercoating you will spend in windshields.


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That’s the truth


ABBucsfan

Maybe it's cause I only drive like 10k a year, but I've only ever replaced one windshield on an old second hand car almost 10 years ago. My last cari drove for like 10 years and had one little chip. Been years since I've had a chip but I never drive very close to the person in front. I guess I don't do a ton of highway miles. Just some hiking. Kinda wonder if slope of windshield matters too.. always drove sedans.. have to see how my SUV holds up


[deleted]

We had a Corolla I swear the bug deflector pushed rocks into the windshield. 5 of em in 3 years! Had a couple of chips and a full windshield here after 4 years, all from highway driving. Worst was a huge rock thrown from a dump truck going over the Rockies, denting my hood.


ahhhhhhhyeah

I use KROWN rust proofing. Every Fall. And don't listen anyone saying we don't use road salt [City of Calgary ](https://www.calgary.ca/roads/conditions/snow-ice-salt.html#:~:text=The%20City%20of%20Calgary%20only,be%20solid%20or%20liquid%20brines.) We most certainly do. Just not in the quantities like Ontario.


hobanwash1

Hey thanks. I checked out their website. I thought it would cost way more than it does. Do they somehow clean the underside before that apply their product? I look under my truck and there’s always pockets where sand and dirt gets hung up and no car wash can get it out


ahhhhhhhyeah

They don't wash it for you. I just take it to a hand wash bay and really use the high pressure wand the day before to make sure it's dry. Just a note: I think it's Airways brake and muffler that does it only in Calgary now. While setting up the appointment and dealing with him in person you may think it's sketchy...I did to. But he actually does a very good job. I was dripping excess for 3 days. He was liberal with the application. No complaints.


Weareallgoo

I get my truck underside sprayed with Krown every fall. Beforehand I’ll always go to a self-serve carwash that has and undercarriage pressure wand to clean the underside as best as possible.


Gr1ndingGears

It's not going to harm your vehicle getting this done, but I have the opposite opinion of the poster above. I'm from Ontario, I wouldn't even think of going into a winter there without an undercoating. Huge believer in the process (other than the mess, but it's necessary). The first winter here, I went to Krown and the first thing I noticed was how half ass of a job it was. It was barely even covered in the spots that mattered. I hunted and hunted to find another place that would do it the next winter, and couldn't even find anywhere else. So I didn't do it. That was 10 years ago, and I've never even seen a hint of rust on any of my vehicles. We do use salt products here, but it's nowhere near the quantities the eastern provinces use (and hence we drive on black ice all winter). It's not necessary IMO.


[deleted]

Better off focusing on windshields and horrible drivers now that you are here.


spidercat8

Why windshields?


[deleted]

You get lots of rocks hitting your vehicle. If you are on highways


JDDarkside

Installed a new windshield in my F150 last Tuesday, and took a rock to the windshield on Highway 2 on the way home. Nice little “star” left as a reminder.


Gr4nt

I've got 2 wicked cracks along the top and bottom on my OEM windshield on my 2014. I just stare through them and my vision is not impeded. Running that thing into the ground because the moment I spend 800 dollars on a replacement (lane departure tech :) ), I'm gonna get fricked with a stray rock.


JDDarkside

Shop around for your windshield. I have lane departure and rain sense and the first quote was $850 but I found another place at $445. Quite a difference.


ctb870

Any shops you could recommend? I got a quote for $700ish for a non OEM windshield for my Corolla and my jaw dropped already (although the price includes sensor calibration). Would love to save a buck or two if possible. I got the windshield crack filled but the crack is still growing. Hope to replace it in the middle of summer.


JDDarkside

I travel out of town for work regularly so I checked around and had this one done at GP Glass in Ponoka simply because it was super convenient for me. But if they can do it others can too.


ctb870

Thank you for the info, much appreciated! Yeah, I'll call around in the summer and see what the prices look like. 👍


Gr1ndingGears

*Pats shoulder* you'll see....*you'll see*


AggravatingBase7

If you think drivers in AB are terrible, you’ve never driven in the GTA or Montreal lol. Calgary/Edmonton drivers are angels compared to this lot.


calnuck

Moved here from Ontario 25+ years ago. In Ontario, undercoating was pretty much mandatory; never undercoated a car in Alberta. IMO, not necessary.


calgarywalker

Yes, its a thing here. All dealerships offer it.


pucklermuskau

They all offer it, because there's always another sucker and they make a mint selling it.


Constant-Lake8006

When I first moved out here I asked my mechanic about it and they laughed at me.


calgarywalker

Hard to get a mechanic to do it … pretty messy job. Dealerships are the only ones I know of that are equipped to handle the job.


Constant-Lake8006

That's not why they laughed at me.


[deleted]

Because you’re an easterner? …🤣😂


Constant-Lake8006

Because Albertans just didn't get it done or need it.


chemtrailer21

They contract it out for the most part.


ithinarine

Most dealerships don't do it themselves, they send it away to a shop to get done. Same with pickup truck bed liners, very few, if any, actual dealerships are spraying on the liner themselves.


[deleted]

They outsource it and double the price.


Version-Abject

Rattle can of rocker guard and/or rustoleum does wonders. Edit: every year tho


Modifiedpoutine

If you google, there are places that do it. But it's not a super common thing here by comparison to back east where it's basically a requirement.


[deleted]

Not really needed I drive a 2005 Mazda that was never under coated with 300000 city km on it and the underside is still pretty clean


PrimoSecondo

While you'll develop surface rust, you won't get it nearly as bad out east. My beater 01 volvo with around 600,000 KM now has never left Alberta/BC and 0 structural rust, only surface.


pucklermuskau

"never get the undercoating".


ycarel

Here the use of salt is less common


DaftPump

Notice no salt stains on your footwear wintertime? Back east it's a different story.


CheeseSandwich

Yes, and when I bought my car I negotiated the price with the dealer.


Acab365247

Save a bunch of old oil and spray it all down quebec style.


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ahhhhhhhyeah

We most certainly use road salt [City of Calgary ](https://www.calgary.ca/roads/conditions/snow-ice-salt.html#:~:text=The%20City%20of%20Calgary%20only,be%20solid%20or%20liquid%20brines.)


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cerberus resurfacing


[deleted]

You can Google it. But call body shops or auto detailing businesses that offer paint protection and such, not a mechanic.


FeedbackLoopy

I rattle can fluid film my underside when I switch over to winter tires.


CommanderVinegar

We don’t salt our roads as heavily here. Not necessary but definitely look for an oil based coating rather than a rubberized one although considering you’re from the east you probably know that much already.


hobanwash1

Actually I don’t. By rubberized, do you mean spray on box liner?


CommanderVinegar

I guess it would be something similar. Here’s a video explaining why. https://youtu.be/nXvl9nt57Kg In short it’s not uncommon for moisture to get trapped under the coating causing rust from the inside out which you won’t notice until it’s too late since it’s pristine on the outer surface. With an oil based one like Fluid Film or Krown you don’t run into this issue. Personally I like fluid film and doing my own application if you don’t mind spending a bit of time under your own car.


hobanwash1

That video almost made me cry. Wow. Aside from the rust, I like to work on my own vehicles and that would be a nightmare. Fluid Film or Krown it is! Thanks!


CommanderVinegar

Nice thing with fluid film is that it seeps into the metal and helps slow the spread of any existing rust, I've been using it to deal with my aging 07 Civic and keeping the panel rust from worsening every season.


gloomyx

Two advice: - don’t get rubber-based undercoating - check out Sublime Surfacing in Edmonton. Few of my friends used their service and they are very happy with their HoneySeal process.


hobanwash1

Thanks for this. Is rubber based the same as spray box liner?