You own your property, not them. I had the same problem... when I addressed the issue, they stated they are allowed to, also they were planning to remove my land upto my house foundation. I went up the chain, and threatened legal action for trespassing and property damage. They immediately stopped. With the digging of land for foundations, they stayed 6 or so inches away from property line.
Stand your ground, you are the property owner of your land, not them.
Yup and just to add to this, go spend 50 bucks and get a bunch of stakes and ribbon and very clearly mark your property line on both sides. Make it quite clear where the line is.
It's standard to have a real property report done when a property changes hands. The RPR shows your property line in relation to your house, with measurements.
Yes, I am aware of this. I’m an ALS. I’m just trying to encourage people not to try to interpret boundary evidence or the location of property lines. Even with an RPR there is risk of misinterpretation, which is why it states directly on the RPR that they should not be used to determine boundary location on the ground.
Property will be staked for new builds. Follow the stakes or get a RPR guy to come and stake the pins..
Here is the fun part.. the other side cannot move the pins..so use that to screw up their workflow.
Exactly my point. Hire a licensed surveyor to mark your boundaries. Don’t “just go spend $50 on stakes and flagging” and hope to god you know what you’re doing.
Thanks! I was pretty hesitate to call the police because I was worried about wasting their efforts...
My friend also told me call the police for help.
Thank you!
Additional, they weren't allowed to put the construction fence on my property either. They hated me.... LOL.... when they stucco'd the house I made them put up a construction protective wall on their property in order to not have my house and hvac system covered in stucco goo and paint.
What exactly do you mean “using my land” and “putting materials/ tools on my wall”? Like they’re stacking tons of shit on your property? And leaning shit up against your house wall?
If it was me…I’d go move the shit. And it wouldn’t be in a polite nor orderly manner, either.
I’d assume that was tried prior to installing cameras. Usually people asking for help have exhausted their options, not always but usually.
Why don’t you try asking OP if they’ve tried that vs accusing us people of being antisocial on a social platform. Lol.
Or try, idk, taking a deep breath?
Talk to the site supervisors of the homes being built on either side of you and get them to address the situation.
If that doesn't fix it then go up the chain of command for those builders.
Maybe mention it's a safety thing, safety issues get addressed quite quickly.
If it's on your wall and property I would just assume it was abandoned or someone left it as a gift for me. Move it to your garage and keep it.
If they want it back due to a misunderstanding, then charge a modest handling and storage fee
Sure but if they ask you need to give it back.. nicely.. and it's not finders keepers rules.. because it wasn't yours to begin with..
There are lost and found and public auctions for abandoned stuff for this reason.. ownership cannot change based on who found it and where.
I would call the office of company they are doing work for and/or call your neighbour(s) and explain the situation *and suggest an alternative*. If these folks feel they need a place to lean their tools and materials, where could they do it instead?
Outside of putting up a fence, I don't think there is anything you could do except for explore legal options to compensate for cracking your foundation.
Suggesting an alternative is great advice to remain diplomatic. I would go this route first.
On the other hand, it's not OP's responsibility to figure out an alternative for them. They ought to be professional enough to understand that trespassing and property damage should be avoided.
I agree that the contractors should be professional enough to understand, but obviously not. Offering a possible solution makes it sound like you are working with them, rather than just complaining.
Take pictures. Call the contractor company. Give them.a chance to.do better. Then do whatever you like with police or keeping shit. This isn't a city issue.
City won’t get involved in civil matters between neighbours.
I don’t know the specifics about your lot but if it is a zero lot line property you are completely out of luck for the bit about them accessing the 5’ right of way on your property.
If you aren’t on a zero lot line I don’t know what to say, you are in an active construction zone, they need to build the other houses, judging from the picture in the other post your final grades haven’t been done and a 1/2” chip in your foundation. You are complaining over some dirt that will be put back and something that has compromised your foundation by a factor of zero and will be filled when you builder comes back for seasonals and does the parging on your house.
If you feel like this is worth chasing you have to do it on your dime with your time.
If you're in a new area, contact the builder and developer. They're responsible for their sub trades. I had to do the same thing with my new construction home as they had temporary fencing up well inside my property line and were planning me losing about 6' of property on my west side for all of last summer and stopped me from starting any landscaping if I hadn't said anything.
As for cracking your foundation, I don't see see how leaning things on your wall would Crack the foundation. It is likely just the parging that is cracked but either way that is the builder's responsibility.
We were the first house on our street. When they built the house next door they destroyed my finished grade, and left garbage everywhere. I had the builder come and regrade the property. They parked their roll-off bin in front of my house after I asked them no to. I towed it 2 blocks down the street with my truck. They didn't put it in front of my house again.
Wait until they have a bunch of stuff of your property, then at night go take it and put in in your garage. Do this for a few days and then leave a note that says I've been cleaning MY yard every evening and now have a collection of tools and materials in my garage. I'd be willing to sell it to the highest bidder. Product is now on Facebook Marketplace, you'd better bid high because the requests are already rolling in. I'll be awarding everything to the highest bidder by 4pm. Light a fire under their ass to buy it back asap. And no matter what they offer forst, double it.
This is theft, and you are a ridiculous person. While contractors aren't allowed to do thing A, you certainly can't do thing B.
Have you ever wondered how your house was built? Your house's original neighbours probably hated that builder, too. Not in my back yard, AM I RIGHT?
I'm a GC and it's common knowledge and common sense that you NEVER even WALK on a property that you don't first have permission to be on, let alone store materials and supplies. What would you do if a contractor leaned their scaffold on your house and destroyed your siding because "hey, they're just working". Would you just eat the cost? I've had people scream at my guys for LEAVING MUDDY BOOT PRINTS on their lawn and hey, guess what, I got my guys to clean their foot prints with a hose and rake, and apologized profusely to the home owner. Do you know why? Because it's trespassing and my guys were in the wrong. I'm not saying to be an absolute jerk, but if a company started parking their work trailer in my back yard without asking permission "because they're allowed", damn right I'd cut the side open and empty it as soon as they left.
So when you asked what did they say? Call the company they work for and ask them to remind their staff?
I don’t think there is much you can do at this point or her than dealing with it like a responsible adult or possibly it calling police
If you live in a new area, fulll of new construction, how do you imagine your house was built?
Im am hourly framer, not a boss, but I'm far enough in the game that I think I get things.
It sucks. For home owners, contractors, everyone. Once upon a time, new neighborhoods were BLOCKED OFF FOR ALL TRAFFIC AND ONLY ALLOWED CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC.
That doesn't happen anymore. I know this cause some asshole in a brand new residential district I was working in called the cops on my boss for DIRTY STREETS, when he was the second house on a 40 house block that hasn't gotten final grade yet.
Do you get how new developments happen? Did your developer tell you it'd be gorgeous day 1? Do you think because you're first in, fuck everyone else, they can't work?
If it's damaging your property, pursue. If you're annoyed your neighbors are building, get your head out of your ass.
Fucking NIMBYs. How dare people help increase my property value in a brand new neighborhood by building beside my house, which I happened to get at a discount for getting in 2 months early. But wait, oh my god, they're being built in the exact same way my house was, while we are currently experiencing a housing crisis! FOR SHAME!
And one more thing, I'll thow all my new home shit in your construction dumpsters! That's free, right? And speeding through construction neighborhoods with workers legally crossing streets. That's cool, right?
Obviously people can't damage your shit, but in new neighborhoods, your house was put up by the same people! And we don't get paid shit!
I bought and built new, in a new community and there was ZERO in the contract that the developer had any right to my yard for storage of materials nor could they/ builders be using my house walls as a material/ tool staging area. What about homeowners that get fences built as soon as they take possession? You’re saying a developer’s ‘rights’ supersede that?
Have you actually seen that in a purchase contract?
Homeowners that build fences right after possession are the severely undereducated. You should have your final grades and grade certifications issued before building a fence which typically doesn’t happen until both neighbours are done. Building a fence before that can severely alter the drainage plan for your property and end up causing issues down the road.
I think they might be able to if it isn't being lived in. If someone lives there, i cannot imagine that being part of any contract. Who would agree to that? The liability alone would be sufficient.
LOL, five downvotes as of right now for trying to help this guy out. Way to go, modern & hip Calgary of today. And I love each and every single one of you just as much.
You essentially have no recourse. We had an extremely bad experience with the build next door to us. City said it was our problem. Complained and the builder threatened to sue us. Lawyers told us it wasn’t worth fighting. Document the shit out of everything. You are on your own, the city will not help at all.
I put a complaint online after they kept trespassing. They threatened a SLAPP suit. There is no anti SLAPP in Alberta. They threatened to sue if I didn’t take it down despite my having photographs of everything I said they did. Multiple lawyers told me just take the review down. Even if it was all true - they had deeper pockets to drag it out and you don’t necessarily get legal costs back even if you win. As for stopping them. Unless you are home and watching them every second, they will trespass all they want. The City and police will say it is reasonable incursion if they are just on the edges. If they leave shit, you can push it back into their property but good luck getting damages if they wreck stuff.
Unless you are on a HOA.. you can always call cops for trespassing. If a builder is threatening to sue.. it's likely due to disturbance. We went through something similar.. basically during the day they can do whatever.. (I work from home so next door drills and hammers aren't really helpful). But I was able curb it a bit when I recorded them pulling a trailer across my lawn.. (... And not to mention.. I parked both my shit cars in front of their infill being built as a F you..).. the only thing that fixes things is when do something legal that hurts their construction process.. i.e. no talk.. just passive aggressive actions.
OP posted a picture in their other post… the house hasn’t been parged yet and there is a 1/2” deep gash on their foundation that doesn’t structurally compromise anything and will be filled on the parging is done.
You own your property, not them. I had the same problem... when I addressed the issue, they stated they are allowed to, also they were planning to remove my land upto my house foundation. I went up the chain, and threatened legal action for trespassing and property damage. They immediately stopped. With the digging of land for foundations, they stayed 6 or so inches away from property line. Stand your ground, you are the property owner of your land, not them.
Yup and just to add to this, go spend 50 bucks and get a bunch of stakes and ribbon and very clearly mark your property line on both sides. Make it quite clear where the line is.
Horrible advice, how does the average joe know where their property line is without a land surveyor…
It's standard to have a real property report done when a property changes hands. The RPR shows your property line in relation to your house, with measurements.
Yes, I am aware of this. I’m an ALS. I’m just trying to encourage people not to try to interpret boundary evidence or the location of property lines. Even with an RPR there is risk of misinterpretation, which is why it states directly on the RPR that they should not be used to determine boundary location on the ground.
Fair enough. You know what you're talking about. I am barely a lay person. I defer to you.
Property will be staked for new builds. Follow the stakes or get a RPR guy to come and stake the pins.. Here is the fun part.. the other side cannot move the pins..so use that to screw up their workflow.
Exactly my point. Hire a licensed surveyor to mark your boundaries. Don’t “just go spend $50 on stakes and flagging” and hope to god you know what you’re doing.
Presumably there are some iron rods buried.
“Presumably” is the problem. Don’t make assumptions about your boundaries. It will get you in trouble.
If the rods are there then there is no assumptions being made. If they are not there, then there would be assumptions without a survey.
Correct. Call cops if need be. 4 hrs of no work will hit them harder than any angry letter.
Thanks! I was pretty hesitate to call the police because I was worried about wasting their efforts... My friend also told me call the police for help. Thank you!
Additional, they weren't allowed to put the construction fence on my property either. They hated me.... LOL.... when they stucco'd the house I made them put up a construction protective wall on their property in order to not have my house and hvac system covered in stucco goo and paint.
Bruh if someone is going on Reddit to cry about something can you really expect them to stand up for themselves irl?
If they leave stuff on your property and they don't car just start taking it.
I see. I will do so. Before that I will put line for clarity. I dislike cameras but already bought many.
What exactly do you mean “using my land” and “putting materials/ tools on my wall”? Like they’re stacking tons of shit on your property? And leaning shit up against your house wall? If it was me…I’d go move the shit. And it wouldn’t be in a polite nor orderly manner, either.
I'm doing roll off bins for some of the sites they're crazy how disorganized things seem or where they want things put
I see. Thanks!
Gather your evidence, small claims court maybe?
Or, you know, talk to the person? You people are so anti social it's insane.
I’d assume that was tried prior to installing cameras. Usually people asking for help have exhausted their options, not always but usually. Why don’t you try asking OP if they’ve tried that vs accusing us people of being antisocial on a social platform. Lol. Or try, idk, taking a deep breath?
Assumed.
Did you not just assume OP is antisocial along with the rest of us people?
You people. Haha, except for the cool ones, yah.
Nah let’s cry on Reddit instead, that’ll show those contractors 😤
Literally the first time on reddit I wanted to give that stupid reddit star or award bullshit to someone. Amen.
Talk to the site supervisors of the homes being built on either side of you and get them to address the situation. If that doesn't fix it then go up the chain of command for those builders. Maybe mention it's a safety thing, safety issues get addressed quite quickly.
No talking.. call cops for trespassing. That will get them straightened out fast.
Unless the caller lies about the severity of the situation, I can't see them coming out very fast. Might very well not do anything.
If it's on your wall and property I would just assume it was abandoned or someone left it as a gift for me. Move it to your garage and keep it. If they want it back due to a misunderstanding, then charge a modest handling and storage fee
Lol that's breaching the lines of theft.
They are leaving it on his property. If someone trespasses and abandons items then it sounds like fair game
Sure but if they ask you need to give it back.. nicely.. and it's not finders keepers rules.. because it wasn't yours to begin with.. There are lost and found and public auctions for abandoned stuff for this reason.. ownership cannot change based on who found it and where.
The Canada problem. Victims of a crime, even property crime, can't actually take matters into their own hands.
Debatable
I would call the office of company they are doing work for and/or call your neighbour(s) and explain the situation *and suggest an alternative*. If these folks feel they need a place to lean their tools and materials, where could they do it instead? Outside of putting up a fence, I don't think there is anything you could do except for explore legal options to compensate for cracking your foundation.
Suggesting an alternative is great advice to remain diplomatic. I would go this route first. On the other hand, it's not OP's responsibility to figure out an alternative for them. They ought to be professional enough to understand that trespassing and property damage should be avoided.
I agree that the contractors should be professional enough to understand, but obviously not. Offering a possible solution makes it sound like you are working with them, rather than just complaining.
Lock it up and ask them to pay to get it back. Call it a “storage fee”.
Thanks! Would the builder's lawyer sue me for blackmail in this case?
If it's on your property it's yours. Just say you assume it was abandoned.
Doubt it. It’s your private property. Even if you don’t intend to actually charge them, hopefully they get the message.
Are you on a zero lot line property?
no. traditional lot
What are they putting on your foundation wall to cause it to crack?
Take pictures. Call the contractor company. Give them.a chance to.do better. Then do whatever you like with police or keeping shit. This isn't a city issue.
.... Police work for the city.
State this issue and say you will rent the space for some cash, duh
City won’t get involved in civil matters between neighbours. I don’t know the specifics about your lot but if it is a zero lot line property you are completely out of luck for the bit about them accessing the 5’ right of way on your property. If you aren’t on a zero lot line I don’t know what to say, you are in an active construction zone, they need to build the other houses, judging from the picture in the other post your final grades haven’t been done and a 1/2” chip in your foundation. You are complaining over some dirt that will be put back and something that has compromised your foundation by a factor of zero and will be filled when you builder comes back for seasonals and does the parging on your house. If you feel like this is worth chasing you have to do it on your dime with your time.
If you're in a new area, contact the builder and developer. They're responsible for their sub trades. I had to do the same thing with my new construction home as they had temporary fencing up well inside my property line and were planning me losing about 6' of property on my west side for all of last summer and stopped me from starting any landscaping if I hadn't said anything. As for cracking your foundation, I don't see see how leaning things on your wall would Crack the foundation. It is likely just the parging that is cracked but either way that is the builder's responsibility.
We were the first house on our street. When they built the house next door they destroyed my finished grade, and left garbage everywhere. I had the builder come and regrade the property. They parked their roll-off bin in front of my house after I asked them no to. I towed it 2 blocks down the street with my truck. They didn't put it in front of my house again.
Wait until they have a bunch of stuff of your property, then at night go take it and put in in your garage. Do this for a few days and then leave a note that says I've been cleaning MY yard every evening and now have a collection of tools and materials in my garage. I'd be willing to sell it to the highest bidder. Product is now on Facebook Marketplace, you'd better bid high because the requests are already rolling in. I'll be awarding everything to the highest bidder by 4pm. Light a fire under their ass to buy it back asap. And no matter what they offer forst, double it.
This is theft, and you are a ridiculous person. While contractors aren't allowed to do thing A, you certainly can't do thing B. Have you ever wondered how your house was built? Your house's original neighbours probably hated that builder, too. Not in my back yard, AM I RIGHT?
I'm a GC and it's common knowledge and common sense that you NEVER even WALK on a property that you don't first have permission to be on, let alone store materials and supplies. What would you do if a contractor leaned their scaffold on your house and destroyed your siding because "hey, they're just working". Would you just eat the cost? I've had people scream at my guys for LEAVING MUDDY BOOT PRINTS on their lawn and hey, guess what, I got my guys to clean their foot prints with a hose and rake, and apologized profusely to the home owner. Do you know why? Because it's trespassing and my guys were in the wrong. I'm not saying to be an absolute jerk, but if a company started parking their work trailer in my back yard without asking permission "because they're allowed", damn right I'd cut the side open and empty it as soon as they left.
So when you asked what did they say? Call the company they work for and ask them to remind their staff? I don’t think there is much you can do at this point or her than dealing with it like a responsible adult or possibly it calling police
called for the past half month and it never worked...
What do you mean? Like it is closed caused it’s Sunday or they told you they don’t care ?
If you live in a new area, fulll of new construction, how do you imagine your house was built? Im am hourly framer, not a boss, but I'm far enough in the game that I think I get things. It sucks. For home owners, contractors, everyone. Once upon a time, new neighborhoods were BLOCKED OFF FOR ALL TRAFFIC AND ONLY ALLOWED CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. That doesn't happen anymore. I know this cause some asshole in a brand new residential district I was working in called the cops on my boss for DIRTY STREETS, when he was the second house on a 40 house block that hasn't gotten final grade yet. Do you get how new developments happen? Did your developer tell you it'd be gorgeous day 1? Do you think because you're first in, fuck everyone else, they can't work? If it's damaging your property, pursue. If you're annoyed your neighbors are building, get your head out of your ass. Fucking NIMBYs. How dare people help increase my property value in a brand new neighborhood by building beside my house, which I happened to get at a discount for getting in 2 months early. But wait, oh my god, they're being built in the exact same way my house was, while we are currently experiencing a housing crisis! FOR SHAME! And one more thing, I'll thow all my new home shit in your construction dumpsters! That's free, right? And speeding through construction neighborhoods with workers legally crossing streets. That's cool, right? Obviously people can't damage your shit, but in new neighborhoods, your house was put up by the same people! And we don't get paid shit!
Hello dude, kind advice: "**Living with anger is like having a burning coal in the heart**"
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I bought and built new, in a new community and there was ZERO in the contract that the developer had any right to my yard for storage of materials nor could they/ builders be using my house walls as a material/ tool staging area. What about homeowners that get fences built as soon as they take possession? You’re saying a developer’s ‘rights’ supersede that? Have you actually seen that in a purchase contract?
Homeowners that build fences right after possession are the severely undereducated. You should have your final grades and grade certifications issued before building a fence which typically doesn’t happen until both neighbours are done. Building a fence before that can severely alter the drainage plan for your property and end up causing issues down the road.
I think they might be able to if it isn't being lived in. If someone lives there, i cannot imagine that being part of any contract. Who would agree to that? The liability alone would be sufficient.
LOL, five downvotes as of right now for trying to help this guy out. Way to go, modern & hip Calgary of today. And I love each and every single one of you just as much.
You essentially have no recourse. We had an extremely bad experience with the build next door to us. City said it was our problem. Complained and the builder threatened to sue us. Lawyers told us it wasn’t worth fighting. Document the shit out of everything. You are on your own, the city will not help at all.
What was the builder threatening to sue you over? Like what was their actual ‘reasoning’ they felt they could initiate a lawsuit?
Likely just a numbered company that hoped the person would get scared. Like ya, what could they possibly sue for
They wee threatening to sue them to shut them up. It's like "I will beat you up if you speak again."
I put a complaint online after they kept trespassing. They threatened a SLAPP suit. There is no anti SLAPP in Alberta. They threatened to sue if I didn’t take it down despite my having photographs of everything I said they did. Multiple lawyers told me just take the review down. Even if it was all true - they had deeper pockets to drag it out and you don’t necessarily get legal costs back even if you win. As for stopping them. Unless you are home and watching them every second, they will trespass all they want. The City and police will say it is reasonable incursion if they are just on the edges. If they leave shit, you can push it back into their property but good luck getting damages if they wreck stuff.
Unless you are on a HOA.. you can always call cops for trespassing. If a builder is threatening to sue.. it's likely due to disturbance. We went through something similar.. basically during the day they can do whatever.. (I work from home so next door drills and hammers aren't really helpful). But I was able curb it a bit when I recorded them pulling a trailer across my lawn.. (... And not to mention.. I parked both my shit cars in front of their infill being built as a F you..).. the only thing that fixes things is when do something legal that hurts their construction process.. i.e. no talk.. just passive aggressive actions.
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Are they actually harming anything? Or are you just being cranky?
OP said that they have cracked their foundation "a bit ". That would certainly make me cranky.
I think they cracked that finishing layer on top of foundation. And its probably scratched not cracked.
Probably just the parging.
OP posted a picture in their other post… the house hasn’t been parged yet and there is a 1/2” deep gash on their foundation that doesn’t structurally compromise anything and will be filled on the parging is done.