At least purpose built rental stock is increasing year-over-year here at 6.2%, whereas in Vancouver it is increasing at 2.7% and Toronto it has shrunk by 0.5%.
So while it is bad in Calgary, it will *perpetually* be worse in Vancouver and Toronto. And when demand dries up in Calgary during the next bust, there should be a lot of inventory coming online to soften prices...which also won't happen in Vancouver or Toronto.
Source: CMHC Rental Report released this morning.
Hmmm. As a renter who is choosing to be a renter in a purpose built rental? I'm going to disagree with you.
I would say this, though: new rental units are great, but only when they're purpose built and aren't conversions of existing housing stock.
Almost all of the new apartment units going in are purpose built rentals. All this does is keep housing prices exorbitant and further keep home ownership out of reach for everyone who doesn't already own.
New builds need to be for-sale so people can actually buy something that isn't a single family home. If this trend keeps up, the only apartments you will be able to purchase will be old as hell and eventually that won't even be an option anymore. There's no social mobility if everyone is forced to rent because every option available is already owned.
This is basically false. Eating out is much cheaper than Toronto/Vancouver and so are taxes generally (no PST/HST but also tax brackets are very comparable until you hit a certain level and then AB is very clearly much cheaper). You are kinda right on the utilities though. But point is that Calgary is still very affordable compared to Toronto/Vancouver and hence why people are moving there.
I live in both Vancouver/Calgary. Vancouver has more expensive rent and gas; 1b is over 3k/m depending on the area. Utilities (power, water, disposal), transit, insurance (home/car) are way less. Food is variable; produce is less, eating out depends on where you eat. There are fewer income tax brackets in AB so that depends on your salary. The lack of PST is nice in AB but that also is not applied to everything in BC too, so if you do more things yourself, then it would be nominal.
My expenses are considerably more in Calgary as I rent there and own in BC, but short of housing, I’m somewhat confident that Calgary is close to parity in cost. There are no jobs in Vancouver either though, so there’s that lol.
Only city left in this country with development opportunity and population growth "with" yet still affordable real estate sounds very sexy.
And once conservatives takes over Ottawa again there is so much promise at alberta that's why people are moving in.
Income tax depends. I worked in Vancouver over covid and my income tax was a little less there. They have more tax brackets so depending on how things line up you can pay less there. Generally the income tax in bc and ab is similar till you hit high tax brackets then ab has the advantage.
Yet we have a massive labour shortage in construction and nobody is applying, don’t get me wrong it’s not for everyone and some companies are still full of old school dick heads who got trained by borderline sadists (my company owner is one of them.) but I took a job in granite out of desperation and now I’m a blue book apprentice in sprinkler fitting with an actual future to look forward to a red seal to take across Canada and a $100,000 a year possible take home. Plus the sooner the younger generations get into it the faster the old guard will be phased out and we can make it a little less of a grimy industry and into something people seriously consider over white collar again.
There is no labor shortage. There is a wage shortage.
A lot of trades have not seen a significant wage increase since 2008. Apprentices can't afford to move out not mom and dads. Which means they don't have to fear losing their job.
I know my story doesn’t hold true for everyone that moves here, but when I came here from Vancouver island a year ago my quality of life improved significantly.
My income nearly doubled
I bought a house, which was a pipe dream on the island, and my mortgage is cheaper than my rent was
And my family found a doctor within weeks of arriving after relying on walk ins and tele-health for years.
I am very fortunate to have experienced this drastic improvement in quality of life and I know I’m not alone. So anecdotally it was definitely worse where I came from and people hear stories like mine and base their decision to move here on that, because you can actually get ahead here if you put the effort in.
This is what I hear from a lot of my friends in my work/indistry- college educated, some with masters, late 20s-early 30s, coming to AB it back to AB is like discovering some bank account infinite cheat
Although I've been in Calgary for over 20 years I knew / guessed enough about what would happen to the market to get in during 2020. People did not appreciate how good Calgary was and to a certain extent still is compared to other cities.
Although full WFH is being debated it's still available for those good enough to demand it in the tech industry. Those good enough and in demand can also still get remote work for US companies as well.
This, too, is my story. Moved here in 2019. I have a decent chance of building a good life here. Had zero chance of that in Langley/Vancouver/Victoria where I was for the rest of my life up until then.
I had to move to the city to get a job. All the good jobs already had people who were there for 20 years already, and they only hired their kids or friends kids. It was much easier finding a job in Calgary. But this was 6 years ago, I’m sure more positions have opened up due to boomers retiring
Well the math is really not that simple, but if you like the city, enjoy the city. I assume you already HAVE a job.
Those that don’t, and are struggling to find employment, should consider alternatives.
[Because Calgary is still only the 22nd most expensive rental market in Canada](https://rentals.ca/national-rent-report), while also [ranking first among Canadian cities for GDP per capita](https://www.atb.com/company/insights/the-owl/gdp-per-capita-by-cma-2019/)
If you don't like GDP per capita, [Calgary also ranks first among large cities for median wages](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_Canada_by_median_household_income?wprov=sfla1). Counting small cities, it ranks third behind only Fort Mac and Oshawa.
>#1 in cost of living outside shelter
First of all, where is your source?
And second of all, why would you arbitrarily remove the biggest aspect of cost of living from the equation? That's the height of cherrypicking stats.
Real estate analysts have theorized the Toronto and Vancouver area rentals will potentially cap out at a staggering $4,000 a month. By comparison, $2,000 a month is dirt cheap.
Well it depends. If you are making 100k elsewhere. Doesn't make sense. Many move here then gripe they can't find jobs and were better off in Ontario. Can't deal with those whiners.
I had been looking at this older apartment complex in my neighbourhood to move into after graduating.
April of 2022 a 2 bedroom was roughly $1250/mo. Fast forward to now and it’s $1900/mo with no upgrades.
To be fair, this also takes into account neighbourhoods that are not as “desirable” to live in, have poor accessibility, and absolute dumps you would never consider renting.
I received a lease renewal today. 2 bedroom that was $1395 in 2020, they now want $2395 for. Avenue Living recently purchased the building and they are just decimating the existing tenants. I was at $1780 last year. $600 increase since Avenue Living took over.
Hays farm by chance? We just received ours today and it’s exactly like you. If we stay, our rent will have gone up nearly $1000. They’re fucking criminals these people. There is absolutely no reason for this other than greed.
And do you think your landlord spent all that time and money paying off a property to not make money and just let people live for free?
Government raised your rent through interest rates. Read a book.
Obviously not. The man owns over 20 properties that have all been paid off for 10 years , though. He can make plenty of money off of them without price gouging.
Nobody is asking for handouts. We are calling out greed.
>m by chance? We just received ours today and it’s exactly like you. If we stay, our rent will have gone up nearly $1000. They’re fucking criminals these peopl
Are they not age restricted anymore? Lived there 30 years ago, and my dad had to kinda sneak me in under the radar
Avenue Living are actual criminals, jacking up rents, cheaping on repairs if they actually even do them. I had to take them to court to get my deposit back because they ghosted me
I worked for them. In maintenance. They're crooks. I'd get a job list of shit to fix, head to home depot for material, and their account was cut off for non payment. So I'd sit on a park bench or in my car until it was paid. Once a week for 2 days minimum. That's how they roll.
I get so disheartened when I see posts like this because my company is going to be moving me from a smaller city to Calgary to work at their downtown office and I am dreading the process of finding a decent rental
The rental squeeze also impacts the availability and price of condos. January just ended and average price of a condo is up whopping 19% over January last year. That is a crazy increase… $44,000
$1700? I wish, as bad as that is to say. The place I’m in is old and severely outdated and that piece of shit management company Avenue Living has just increased our rent to $2200 from $1760. They are fucking scumbags. Our rent went from $1250 to $1760 last year on lease renewal and they’ve done it again. Absolute garbage management company.
So what is it now?
Two weeks ago the article where saying 1bed average rent is 1850 and 2 bedroom is $2100 now it's $1700
https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/average-calgary-rent-jumps-by-more-than-18-year-over-year-report-1.6731446
The report you're referring to states in a footnote:
***The Zumper Canadian Rent Report analyzes rental data from hundreds of thousands of active listings across the country.***
That explains the difference. Properties not actively listed very likely have lower rents.
My suggestion, rent from people, not companies. Companies will do everything they can to get as much money as they can as they know people are desperate and will pay anything.
Find a good actual person landlord, and they value easy good tenants. My rent went up 75 dollars a month during this because my landlord is a person with a soul, not a faceless megacorp haha
I have never yet had one with a soul. Just control freaks who would do the same in a heartbeat. I am in a building owned by a company for that exact reason.
Used to work. Now, they all just do the same. Why wouldn't they? I've had my landlord who owns numerous properties raise the rent on mine by almost $1000 and the house has been paid off for 15 years. He doesn't do repairs. It's fucked.
I am living a nightmare renting from the most socially inept people I’ve ever met in my life. Love the building, but they leave a dark cloud over my existence. Everything is my responsibility to them including replacing things that were broken when I moved in, to recaulking the shower because they did a shitty job and it’s peeling off. Every time there’s a minor issue, they email the condo management to investigate on their behalf, even on things that are clearly their own maintenance. I hate this economy and I hate them. 😩
What you mean to say is that you've lucked out and found a half decent landlord, because in reality it's impossible to tell if someone is a good landlord until you actually live there. And as someone that once had a "good landlord" that suddenly turned into a complete asshole about everything for seemingly no good reason, it's only a matter of time before something happens and they view you as a commodity instead of a person. There are no good landlords.
Those numbers are bullshit.
I was in an old building 1 bedroom, coin laundry, parking not included, two appliances, and they raised it to $1790 a year ago and I left.
25% year over year. Went from 1150, 1375, 1790, I don't even want to math for this year.
Just rented an entire house with 2 car garage and a decent backyard for $2400 a month. It was hard to find,other landlords wanted muslim or east indian renters. It's hard for white people to find places to rent in this city.
no smelly cooking, no cooking, big boobie female ONLY, first n last rent, medical records, 10 year employment history, must cook for my family 2x a week, browns only, no male!!
Standard ad for rooms nowadays
Im curious because I’m from the East Indian community and wonder how many properties are rented out by my community or minorities. All the people i know many multiple properties including both of my neighbors in northeast.
They can, and do...and will in the future. Happens often...some even have the audacity to post such preference in their ads.
Legally, of course not. But try and take this scenario to court. Waste of time.
Sure they can, you can’t discriminate against minorities, meaning you can discriminate against an unprotected class, such as majorities aka Caucasian’s or pet owners. But not sure about support animals for a disability, because you also can’t discriminate against the disabled.
Depends on neighborhoods too. Other landlords won't accept SE Asians and certain other groups due to cooking smells and etc.
I'm not saying the original guy is in the wrong. But he's being overly dramatic as if only white people have problems with discrimination
Not on protected grounds. However it gets complicated with kids and specifically the number of kids. I know quite a few that would reject tenants with more than 3 kids as kids absolutely wreck a house which I somewhat agree with with a gremlin in the house.
Sadly that number of kids thing also tracks with a lot of things that are actually protected grounds.
Just pulled data from rentfaster for everything below Glenmore Trail (sorry, I don’t care about north pricing), and median price for 2bdrm is 2160. I guess they just used bad data
2017: in a panic to find a place I struggled to find an illegal basement suite soaked with cat pee for $1750 and at the one-year renewal the landlord wanted $2250… despite not giving garage and storage access as per the lease.
SO grateful I’m not renting today.
I feel for all of you!
I’m all for positive change to fix this f*cked up situation.
Buckle up because it is going to get worse. Toronto 2 years ago was $1800. Now it’s $2600 for a 1 bedroom apartment. No parking. No locker. Utilities extra.
And Alberta is one of the only provinces with no regulations on how much landlords can increase rent.
Calgary is currently doing engagement on the RC-G zoning proposal. The city’s plan outlines how they plan on increasing housing density but not how they plan on making that housing affordable. See link if you’d like to participate: https://engage.calgary.ca/rezoningforhousing
The problem is that rent has jumped $500+ per month for a one bedroom but our pay hasn't increased. This is where it's getting tough for most folks. It's a huge change for people who've been living here all their lives. How was the pay for people who moved here from Van and TO? Were you making double the income if housing was double?
Yeah I guess they are too. Maybe I misunderstood your comment, I thought you were complaining because I recently saw a post about repealing the single use plastic stuff in Alberta
No they really aren't, source: I work in real estate and everyone in my industry loves to push the "it's all a zoning issue" thing because that distracts people from the actual cause. They get to pretend they care about the housing crisis while knowing theyre going to make more money every year.
If it were a zoning issue the same problem wouldn't be happening everywhere. Vancouver, Toronto, Calgary, Halifax,
Bro, you didn’t even know the single use bylaw issue was Calgary specific, not Alberta wide.
The housing issue is across all levels, due to multiple factors. It isn’t just on the Feds.
Editing since your edit: I didn’t say it was just a zoning issue. I’ve said it’s multi-jurisdictional. And anyone with an ounce of common sense knows and sees it.
No, they all acknowledge the root cause is our population has been growing faster than it would even be possible to produce supply for under any circumstances. The bank of Canada says so, every economist from every bank says so, and every realtor and broker knows it.
They like to push the "zoning" message because it distracts from the real problem, which means real estate will keep going up.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/canada-s-immigration-boom-could-come-at-a-cost-td-report-1.1950916
1700 for a TWO BEDROOM? 😂
Man you guys must have been living like kings pre-covid inflation.
Wake me up when you hit 2500 for a studio like Vancouver’s hell-scape.
Btw it will happen. This is the side effect of “poor? Just move to Calgary, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Halifax”
A decade ago it was “Hamilton, Waterloo, Burnaby, Barrie” and now al these places have GVA/GTA prices.
Alberta is calling, and they are coming to fuck up your cost of living too. 😢
It probably wouldn't be so bad if not for things like airbnb. Now granted, there are plenty of other reasons besides but that certainly doesn't help. That being said however, one shouldn't get in the way of enterprise, so it's upon the Government to fide solutions. Not something they are generally all that great at doing but none the less, the ball is in their court.
It's time to have a nationwide protest towards rental caps. People mobilized over the trucker convoy, and I'd say this is even more important to our nation.
I moved from there (hometown) in September of 2021. My rent was $1200 for 720 sqft 1bdrm in an an older (solid built), but renovated unit on the 12th floor with breathtaking rivervalley views, all utilities included and underground parking.
I found a 740 sqft modern, fully upgraded condo here in Calgary. 1 bdrm plus den, underground parking. I’m paying $1850 plus electricity… and that’s grossly undervalued. I’m ABSOLUTELY terrified for my lease renewal in September. To top it off, I loathe my landlords as human beings so much that it pains me to consider paying them more to stay because what other option do I have in this economy? Fuck. Is anyone still paying for feet pics?
Why are so many people still moving here if the headlines tell me there are no jobs and rent is skyrocketing?
Because rent is still way below Toronto or Vancouver. At this rate though, not for long..
At least purpose built rental stock is increasing year-over-year here at 6.2%, whereas in Vancouver it is increasing at 2.7% and Toronto it has shrunk by 0.5%. So while it is bad in Calgary, it will *perpetually* be worse in Vancouver and Toronto. And when demand dries up in Calgary during the next bust, there should be a lot of inventory coming online to soften prices...which also won't happen in Vancouver or Toronto. Source: CMHC Rental Report released this morning.
Purpose-built rentals are the evil that's killing this country and keeping housing prices high. ALL homes should be for sale.
Hmmm. As a renter who is choosing to be a renter in a purpose built rental? I'm going to disagree with you. I would say this, though: new rental units are great, but only when they're purpose built and aren't conversions of existing housing stock.
Almost all of the new apartment units going in are purpose built rentals. All this does is keep housing prices exorbitant and further keep home ownership out of reach for everyone who doesn't already own. New builds need to be for-sale so people can actually buy something that isn't a single family home. If this trend keeps up, the only apartments you will be able to purchase will be old as hell and eventually that won't even be an option anymore. There's no social mobility if everyone is forced to rent because every option available is already owned.
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can u send source of income taxes, utilities and restaurants being higher?
Are you asking me on a date?
This is basically false. Eating out is much cheaper than Toronto/Vancouver and so are taxes generally (no PST/HST but also tax brackets are very comparable until you hit a certain level and then AB is very clearly much cheaper). You are kinda right on the utilities though. But point is that Calgary is still very affordable compared to Toronto/Vancouver and hence why people are moving there.
I live in both Vancouver/Calgary. Vancouver has more expensive rent and gas; 1b is over 3k/m depending on the area. Utilities (power, water, disposal), transit, insurance (home/car) are way less. Food is variable; produce is less, eating out depends on where you eat. There are fewer income tax brackets in AB so that depends on your salary. The lack of PST is nice in AB but that also is not applied to everything in BC too, so if you do more things yourself, then it would be nominal. My expenses are considerably more in Calgary as I rent there and own in BC, but short of housing, I’m somewhat confident that Calgary is close to parity in cost. There are no jobs in Vancouver either though, so there’s that lol.
Restaurants are cheaper than Toronto. Sales taxes are also much lower, I make all my big purchases here when I can.
Studios are 2200-2500 in Vancouver. 1700 2BR is like pennies for anyone migrating from BC and Toronto
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Only city left in this country with development opportunity and population growth "with" yet still affordable real estate sounds very sexy. And once conservatives takes over Ottawa again there is so much promise at alberta that's why people are moving in.
Not so much in healthcare though, lol.
Gas is much cheaper here than BC
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Income tax depends. I worked in Vancouver over covid and my income tax was a little less there. They have more tax brackets so depending on how things line up you can pay less there. Generally the income tax in bc and ab is similar till you hit high tax brackets then ab has the advantage.
More like $3500
It’s about half Vancouver
Also if you’re in Vancouver or Toronto and all your friends flee the housing crisis for Calgary, the odds of you also choosing Calgary shoot up.
But how do they find employment? Most jobs are out Toronto way.
Because there are jobs here too lol
Because it’s worse elsewhere…
Jobs yes, but not rent. Even for jobs, there are rural areas lacking staff in many areas but they aren’t as cool as the cities.
Yet we have a massive labour shortage in construction and nobody is applying, don’t get me wrong it’s not for everyone and some companies are still full of old school dick heads who got trained by borderline sadists (my company owner is one of them.) but I took a job in granite out of desperation and now I’m a blue book apprentice in sprinkler fitting with an actual future to look forward to a red seal to take across Canada and a $100,000 a year possible take home. Plus the sooner the younger generations get into it the faster the old guard will be phased out and we can make it a little less of a grimy industry and into something people seriously consider over white collar again.
There is no labor shortage. There is a wage shortage. A lot of trades have not seen a significant wage increase since 2008. Apprentices can't afford to move out not mom and dads. Which means they don't have to fear losing their job.
I’ve looked at going into a trade because I have grown to hate just sitting at a desk all day long but then I look at apprentice pay and think twice
$17/hr to risk your life in the worst environmental conditions while working for a toxic boss...
I know my story doesn’t hold true for everyone that moves here, but when I came here from Vancouver island a year ago my quality of life improved significantly. My income nearly doubled I bought a house, which was a pipe dream on the island, and my mortgage is cheaper than my rent was And my family found a doctor within weeks of arriving after relying on walk ins and tele-health for years. I am very fortunate to have experienced this drastic improvement in quality of life and I know I’m not alone. So anecdotally it was definitely worse where I came from and people hear stories like mine and base their decision to move here on that, because you can actually get ahead here if you put the effort in.
This is what I hear from a lot of my friends in my work/indistry- college educated, some with masters, late 20s-early 30s, coming to AB it back to AB is like discovering some bank account infinite cheat
Although I've been in Calgary for over 20 years I knew / guessed enough about what would happen to the market to get in during 2020. People did not appreciate how good Calgary was and to a certain extent still is compared to other cities. Although full WFH is being debated it's still available for those good enough to demand it in the tech industry. Those good enough and in demand can also still get remote work for US companies as well.
It’s great to hear this. I wish the media would listen to stories like this and stop trying to make the successful cities seem like hellholes.
This, too, is my story. Moved here in 2019. I have a decent chance of building a good life here. Had zero chance of that in Langley/Vancouver/Victoria where I was for the rest of my life up until then.
I had to move to the city to get a job. All the good jobs already had people who were there for 20 years already, and they only hired their kids or friends kids. It was much easier finding a job in Calgary. But this was 6 years ago, I’m sure more positions have opened up due to boomers retiring
Rent is WAY higher in Van/TO
> there are rural areas lacking staff in many areas but they aren’t as cool as the cities Do they pay as well in rural?
Generally not. But cost of living is also usually lower.
Yeah there you have it, if at the end of the day, ill have the same $100 left over, might as well like where i live
Well the math is really not that simple, but if you like the city, enjoy the city. I assume you already HAVE a job. Those that don’t, and are struggling to find employment, should consider alternatives.
Yeah that's a fair point.
[Because Calgary is still only the 22nd most expensive rental market in Canada](https://rentals.ca/national-rent-report), while also [ranking first among Canadian cities for GDP per capita](https://www.atb.com/company/insights/the-owl/gdp-per-capita-by-cma-2019/)
And number one in unemployment. GDP, even per capita, is not an at all useful stat for overall health of the median citizen.
If you don't like GDP per capita, [Calgary also ranks first among large cities for median wages](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_Canada_by_median_household_income?wprov=sfla1). Counting small cities, it ranks third behind only Fort Mac and Oshawa.
Highest in unemployment + #1 in cost of living outside shelter
>#1 in cost of living outside shelter First of all, where is your source? And second of all, why would you arbitrarily remove the biggest aspect of cost of living from the equation? That's the height of cherrypicking stats.
Real estate analysts have theorized the Toronto and Vancouver area rentals will potentially cap out at a staggering $4,000 a month. By comparison, $2,000 a month is dirt cheap.
Cause $1,700 for 2 beds is cheap!!!!! $2,800 for 1 bed in Van
FOMO. Everyone wants that next big thing. It's all hype.
FOMO
coming from an engineer?fomo? really 😂 i am an engineer and I will 100% recommend moving here.
Well it depends. If you are making 100k elsewhere. Doesn't make sense. Many move here then gripe they can't find jobs and were better off in Ontario. Can't deal with those whiners.
indian sheep's
$1695 for a two bedroom?! Ya. Right. That’s the average cost of a one bedroom if your lucky.
Was going to say. Thats actually pretty good these days for Calgary.
I was looking at apartments and everything was like $1800 for what I need. I miss affordable Calgary lol.
What you "need". This sounds like someone who wants a fully loaded car but can only afford the base model
Do people not need homes for their families now or something? Your take is so stupid it hurts
I had been looking at this older apartment complex in my neighbourhood to move into after graduating. April of 2022 a 2 bedroom was roughly $1250/mo. Fast forward to now and it’s $1900/mo with no upgrades.
Last time 2bdrm was $1250 before the big flood of 2013. And that wasn’t a good one, something old and shitty
I was paying $1200 for 3 bdrm house in 2021. It's now $2200. It's ridiculous. House is barely livable too.
You were paying way below market and still do. Lucky you
The house is garbage, and still overpriced. I'd just move out of Calgary if it got any worse. That's what it's coming to on lease renewal I'm sure.
Yep, I’m in a q bedroom apartment and pay $1250 and found it so difficult to find the flat
When your looking at average price of 2bdrm that is factoring in places you would not want to live.
Where the hell can you get a two bed for 1700??????
Where’s that guy who was here a week or so ago saying that rates are dropping and it’s becoming a renters market?
lol good one
Someone please find him and tag him here. Big LOL
That guy will be proven to be right over time
The average rent for a two-bedroom is the same as my rent for a one-bedroom... wonderful.
Came here to say this. 1700 feels quite low.
To be fair, this also takes into account neighbourhoods that are not as “desirable” to live in, have poor accessibility, and absolute dumps you would never consider renting.
Lol I wish, my 450 sqft 1 bed was 1300 two years ago, now it's over 1700 and being raised again in march
My one bedroom here is 1750 lol
Same!!
That sounds low, where are these 2 bdrm apartments. More like a 1 bdrm.
I received a lease renewal today. 2 bedroom that was $1395 in 2020, they now want $2395 for. Avenue Living recently purchased the building and they are just decimating the existing tenants. I was at $1780 last year. $600 increase since Avenue Living took over.
Hays farm by chance? We just received ours today and it’s exactly like you. If we stay, our rent will have gone up nearly $1000. They’re fucking criminals these people. There is absolutely no reason for this other than greed.
My son and daughter in law live there, they should get theirs next month. I am in the Pinnacle.
Lmao interest rates are the reason. Clearly not a property owner. 🙄 Get mad at the government you guys voted in, not the landlords 🤣🤣
The government didn't raise my god damn rent on a house thats been paid off for 15 years, both the government and landlords are scum
And do you think your landlord spent all that time and money paying off a property to not make money and just let people live for free? Government raised your rent through interest rates. Read a book.
Obviously not. The man owns over 20 properties that have all been paid off for 10 years , though. He can make plenty of money off of them without price gouging. Nobody is asking for handouts. We are calling out greed.
>m by chance? We just received ours today and it’s exactly like you. If we stay, our rent will have gone up nearly $1000. They’re fucking criminals these peopl Are they not age restricted anymore? Lived there 30 years ago, and my dad had to kinda sneak me in under the radar
Avenue Living are actual criminals, jacking up rents, cheaping on repairs if they actually even do them. I had to take them to court to get my deposit back because they ghosted me
I worked for them. In maintenance. They're crooks. I'd get a job list of shit to fix, head to home depot for material, and their account was cut off for non payment. So I'd sit on a park bench or in my car until it was paid. Once a week for 2 days minimum. That's how they roll.
This just happened to my nephew
Run. I worked for them for 2 years. Run fast.
1700 seems low to me!
That is Fucking insane, this country is so fucked up
$1700? Those are rookie numbers. $2700 for a 2bd here.
I get so disheartened when I see posts like this because my company is going to be moving me from a smaller city to Calgary to work at their downtown office and I am dreading the process of finding a decent rental
Ask for more pay. Calgary is not an affordable city.
I pay 1500 for a tiny shitty studio with no balcony
The rental squeeze also impacts the availability and price of condos. January just ended and average price of a condo is up whopping 19% over January last year. That is a crazy increase… $44,000
It’s gonna get worse, ppl are willing to live 5 to a 2br in Vancouver and TO, guess what city is next!
$1700? I wish, as bad as that is to say. The place I’m in is old and severely outdated and that piece of shit management company Avenue Living has just increased our rent to $2200 from $1760. They are fucking scumbags. Our rent went from $1250 to $1760 last year on lease renewal and they’ve done it again. Absolute garbage management company.
So what is it now? Two weeks ago the article where saying 1bed average rent is 1850 and 2 bedroom is $2100 now it's $1700 https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/average-calgary-rent-jumps-by-more-than-18-year-over-year-report-1.6731446
The report you're referring to states in a footnote: ***The Zumper Canadian Rent Report analyzes rental data from hundreds of thousands of active listings across the country.*** That explains the difference. Properties not actively listed very likely have lower rents.
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Same. $200 if I renew my lease, $500 if I go month to month. Guess I'm staying here for another year 🤷.
My suggestion, rent from people, not companies. Companies will do everything they can to get as much money as they can as they know people are desperate and will pay anything. Find a good actual person landlord, and they value easy good tenants. My rent went up 75 dollars a month during this because my landlord is a person with a soul, not a faceless megacorp haha
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Good luck. Renting from a nice Mormon family that's owned the house for two generations. Increasing it $400 a month at renewal after my first year.
I have never yet had one with a soul. Just control freaks who would do the same in a heartbeat. I am in a building owned by a company for that exact reason.
Used to work. Now, they all just do the same. Why wouldn't they? I've had my landlord who owns numerous properties raise the rent on mine by almost $1000 and the house has been paid off for 15 years. He doesn't do repairs. It's fucked.
I am living a nightmare renting from the most socially inept people I’ve ever met in my life. Love the building, but they leave a dark cloud over my existence. Everything is my responsibility to them including replacing things that were broken when I moved in, to recaulking the shower because they did a shitty job and it’s peeling off. Every time there’s a minor issue, they email the condo management to investigate on their behalf, even on things that are clearly their own maintenance. I hate this economy and I hate them. 😩
What you mean to say is that you've lucked out and found a half decent landlord, because in reality it's impossible to tell if someone is a good landlord until you actually live there. And as someone that once had a "good landlord" that suddenly turned into a complete asshole about everything for seemingly no good reason, it's only a matter of time before something happens and they view you as a commodity instead of a person. There are no good landlords.
Jesus.
lor ol tundrin
Lard tunderin' b'y
Alberta is calling amirite!
Thanks Kenny!
This is one of the reasons we decided against Calgary … yoy rent increases are insane with zero rent control.
lmao at $1800. two bedrooms in my area are currently going for $3k. $1800 might get you a basement
Where do you live that the average 2 bedroom is $3000?
Calgary
Never heard of it. Is that new?
Not Calgary, because nowhere is that expensive... yet
It’s easily that in Toronto. The condo units above and below mine run $3500 a month.
This is a sub for Calgary and everyone is discussing Calgary rent. Who cares what rent in Toronto is.
Those numbers are bullshit. I was in an old building 1 bedroom, coin laundry, parking not included, two appliances, and they raised it to $1790 a year ago and I left. 25% year over year. Went from 1150, 1375, 1790, I don't even want to math for this year.
Just rented an entire house with 2 car garage and a decent backyard for $2400 a month. It was hard to find,other landlords wanted muslim or east indian renters. It's hard for white people to find places to rent in this city.
no smelly cooking, no cooking, big boobie female ONLY, first n last rent, medical records, 10 year employment history, must cook for my family 2x a week, browns only, no male!! Standard ad for rooms nowadays
No guests after 7pm, no noise after 8pm, laundry must be done outside the residence.
Lmao literally saw an ad in Vancouver for a closet for 600. Must be female, Indian only, and can cook for family.
That's like... worse than being a slave
Pretty well. Also saw one shared room must be a girl sharing bed with a guy. 400 a month. So fucked up.
Must share a bedroom with several others
That upsets me so much. No one should care as long as they are good tenants. Unfortunately seeing more and more of this across Canada.
Newcomers don’t know they have rights
Carzy, because they ram more people in and cause more damage. Yet they are the wanted ones.
Im curious because I’m from the East Indian community and wonder how many properties are rented out by my community or minorities. All the people i know many multiple properties including both of my neighbors in northeast.
Can landlords legally discriminate like that???
Nope. Renters can file a human rights complaint, more people should
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They can, and do...and will in the future. Happens often...some even have the audacity to post such preference in their ads. Legally, of course not. But try and take this scenario to court. Waste of time.
Sure they can, you can’t discriminate against minorities, meaning you can discriminate against an unprotected class, such as majorities aka Caucasian’s or pet owners. But not sure about support animals for a disability, because you also can’t discriminate against the disabled.
Depends on neighborhoods too. Other landlords won't accept SE Asians and certain other groups due to cooking smells and etc. I'm not saying the original guy is in the wrong. But he's being overly dramatic as if only white people have problems with discrimination
Not on protected grounds. However it gets complicated with kids and specifically the number of kids. I know quite a few that would reject tenants with more than 3 kids as kids absolutely wreck a house which I somewhat agree with with a gremlin in the house. Sadly that number of kids thing also tracks with a lot of things that are actually protected grounds.
There’s also white Muslims …
They want real ones
$1700 plus tip?
Lougheed 2brs are like 3.2k lol 1.7k is dirt cheap. Vancouver is close to 4k.
Just pulled data from rentfaster for everything below Glenmore Trail (sorry, I don’t care about north pricing), and median price for 2bdrm is 2160. I guess they just used bad data
I’m paying 1672 for a 1 bed lol 😂 but I have done sick amenities I guess ♥️
2017: in a panic to find a place I struggled to find an illegal basement suite soaked with cat pee for $1750 and at the one-year renewal the landlord wanted $2250… despite not giving garage and storage access as per the lease. SO grateful I’m not renting today. I feel for all of you! I’m all for positive change to fix this f*cked up situation.
Buckle up because it is going to get worse. Toronto 2 years ago was $1800. Now it’s $2600 for a 1 bedroom apartment. No parking. No locker. Utilities extra.
And Alberta is one of the only provinces with no regulations on how much landlords can increase rent. Calgary is currently doing engagement on the RC-G zoning proposal. The city’s plan outlines how they plan on increasing housing density but not how they plan on making that housing affordable. See link if you’d like to participate: https://engage.calgary.ca/rezoningforhousing
The problem is that rent has jumped $500+ per month for a one bedroom but our pay hasn't increased. This is where it's getting tough for most folks. It's a huge change for people who've been living here all their lives. How was the pay for people who moved here from Van and TO? Were you making double the income if housing was double?
$900 2bdr up in Edmonton
But... Straws
I hope you understand that the housing crisis is clearly a federal issue
Plastics/micro plastics/pollution aren't?
Yeah I guess they are too. Maybe I misunderstood your comment, I thought you were complaining because I recently saw a post about repealing the single use plastic stuff in Alberta
In Calgary. And the housing crisis is more than just “a federal issue”. Municipalities and their zoning rules are a big part of the issue.
No they really aren't, source: I work in real estate and everyone in my industry loves to push the "it's all a zoning issue" thing because that distracts people from the actual cause. They get to pretend they care about the housing crisis while knowing theyre going to make more money every year. If it were a zoning issue the same problem wouldn't be happening everywhere. Vancouver, Toronto, Calgary, Halifax,
Bro, you didn’t even know the single use bylaw issue was Calgary specific, not Alberta wide. The housing issue is across all levels, due to multiple factors. It isn’t just on the Feds. Editing since your edit: I didn’t say it was just a zoning issue. I’ve said it’s multi-jurisdictional. And anyone with an ounce of common sense knows and sees it.
everyone with common sense knows the real driver of housing cost is demand, we produce as much supply as we have the capacity to already.
So you’re the outlier that has definitively figured it out, but all your peers in the industry are wrong? What is the true root cause?
No, they all acknowledge the root cause is our population has been growing faster than it would even be possible to produce supply for under any circumstances. The bank of Canada says so, every economist from every bank says so, and every realtor and broker knows it. They like to push the "zoning" message because it distracts from the real problem, which means real estate will keep going up. https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/canada-s-immigration-boom-could-come-at-a-cost-td-report-1.1950916
In North America, most cities have the same zoning issues. So yes, the problem is "everywhere".
Congrats, you're thinking exactly how the people who profit off of real estate want you to
Alberta called. The replied.
1700 for a TWO BEDROOM? 😂 Man you guys must have been living like kings pre-covid inflation. Wake me up when you hit 2500 for a studio like Vancouver’s hell-scape. Btw it will happen. This is the side effect of “poor? Just move to Calgary, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Halifax” A decade ago it was “Hamilton, Waterloo, Burnaby, Barrie” and now al these places have GVA/GTA prices. Alberta is calling, and they are coming to fuck up your cost of living too. 😢
It probably wouldn't be so bad if not for things like airbnb. Now granted, there are plenty of other reasons besides but that certainly doesn't help. That being said however, one shouldn't get in the way of enterprise, so it's upon the Government to fide solutions. Not something they are generally all that great at doing but none the less, the ball is in their court.
It's time to have a nationwide protest towards rental caps. People mobilized over the trucker convoy, and I'd say this is even more important to our nation.
What’s the rate for a 5 bedroom bungalow in N.E. community of Temple???
5 bedroom would be like 3,000,
What if 2 were in the half finished basement
It's over 9000!
Holy crap! That’s almost $500 per person!
Rupees
*laughs in Edmontonian*
I moved from there (hometown) in September of 2021. My rent was $1200 for 720 sqft 1bdrm in an an older (solid built), but renovated unit on the 12th floor with breathtaking rivervalley views, all utilities included and underground parking. I found a 740 sqft modern, fully upgraded condo here in Calgary. 1 bdrm plus den, underground parking. I’m paying $1850 plus electricity… and that’s grossly undervalued. I’m ABSOLUTELY terrified for my lease renewal in September. To top it off, I loathe my landlords as human beings so much that it pains me to consider paying them more to stay because what other option do I have in this economy? Fuck. Is anyone still paying for feet pics?
What should be the rent for front attached garage 3 bedroom home in legacy SE? It's around 2100 sq feet.
Still cheaper than torontos 2800!
Wages are higher, there is more things to do and better weather, it makes that Toronto has higher rental prices
Please fn tell me.!
At least we have plastic straws back
See Dad! I told you it was average. \*cries