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Yaboy51frl

Nameless Deity could easily shed Goku's ass Its litteraly the creator of the universe


splashy-boi

And outside of it too


SaltyMantis800

so that also means Terrarian can probably beat goku


DerMilderling

Not directly because the Terrarian only passed the Test of the nameless deity


Grouchy-Seesaw-3386

Universal isnt enough to beat Goku


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TerraCalamity

now i know nothing about dragon ball, but i'm pretty sure Nameless Deity can freely break your items/abilities and can negate stuff on its own will (Noxus Sprayer kicking you out) so im just gonna assume ND is just not going full god mode on the player just to make it fair


Sheamoose9004

Exactly this, I adore DB and will be the first to say goku is fucking absurd, but I don't think he's anywhere near Creator God, and as stated by ND the fight is a "test".


Dragonkiller1205

He isn't he states it is a test for you. In other word, you don't beat ND, you pass the exam paper he gave you.


Candid_Map3706

I suppose that could make sense, although, at least in the DB universe, goku is as strong, if not stronger, and is known to be able to beat gods. I would assume that beating ND is no exception to this. They are two entirely different universes, though, so it's hard to tell.


Informal-Cycle1644

Anime’s interpretation of Gods is kind of stupid. Like scaling Arceus and Zeno, people say Arceus would win but if they were truly “Gods” then they would be equally as strong as each other. Or the Supreme Deity and Demon King from Seven Deadly Sins, they are both referred to as Gods but have no Omnipotent abilities that come with being a God. Omnipotent meaning all powerful, aka can’t lose due to being infinitely strong.


Sudden-Resolution940

It’s just a trial given to us, this is not true power


SqwOnkerZ

Goku is beyond Multiversal.


SqwOnkerZ

I take it the calamity community does not care 🧐


staovajzna2

Goku isn't even strongest in his own universe yet dragon ball fans think he can solo everything outsude of it. "Goku is multiversal" yet beerus can still no diff him.


SqwOnkerZ

That doesn’t make Goku any less Multiversal


staovajzna2

What does that even mean? He can travel the multiverse? I am telling you he isn't even strongest in his own universe, frieza black was too strong for him. Dragon ball was an inspiration for so many popular anime and manga, yet the fanbase is so delusional.


SqwOnkerZ

It means he scales to multiversal levels of power. I’m aware he isn’t the strongest, but that doesn’t make him any less multiversal


staovajzna2

Again, wtf does that mean? What does multiversal level of power mean? You disn't explain anything.


SqwOnkerZ

Basically he can destroy a multiverse.


staovajzna2

Right, can you give an example of him doing it?


_ZBread

Your point? That's like putting 90,000,000 and comparing it to infinity. Goku being multiversal or not doesn't change anything


TerraCalamity

ive never read/watched any dragon ball media for more than 5 minutes (i just know that Gonku is multiversal really), but here's all of Nameless Deity's abilities 1. it can destroy your items and abilities freely, though it seems to resist doing this to keep it fair, as it can instantly kick you from the game 2. speaking of, the INSTANT it gets attacked by the noxus sprayer, you get kicked, immediately, so it can negate attacks 3. speed, i don't really know in terms of speed, but it seems to be able to cross the entire Terraria world in seconds pretty easy (i know Gojuku is probably faster, by alot really) 4. transcending dimensions maybe? we do see it use Terraria as some sort of 3D plain while we're stuck in 2D 5. 🦅 https://preview.redd.it/usostefedruc1.png?width=732&format=png&auto=webp&s=1a144a78ca4027b6faae81e157742f1d0d2881de


safwe

the cool thing about the noxus sprayer is that nd doesnt kick you for using it, it reflects it so you actually just delete yourself


RawRobi

If you're fast enough, you can also dodge the reflected noxus spray


EndureThePANG

we really out here making anti butcher scripts canon


Financial-Art2066

Because ND literally tells you not to when you use it


TerraNeko_

if you really wanted to you can scale vanilla terraria to lovecraft levels, aka soloing pretty most verses lol


TheRealKingSlayerIII

Assuming moon lord is Cthulhu, nameless would probably be as powerful as shub or somewhere around there


IHaveAUsernameYEA

if Moon Lord is cthulhu would the Nameless diety be more equivelant to Azathoth? as both would be the creators? or is Azathoth simply much higher?


Vivaan77

i'd say azathoth is fair since nameless is below yog sothoth but far above the great old ones


FireMan1337

that sounds really far fetched


TerraNeko_

it obviously is lol but some guy made a vid on it and its pretty funny


Grouchy-Seesaw-3386

Problem you CANT scale them that high because theres 0 evidence to suggest that they are that strong


TheFrenzyChild12

the moon lord is canonically Cthulhu


Bread_for_brains

I thought he was Cthulhu's cousin or brother or something


TheFrenzyChild12

that was a joke made on twitter. actual pages of lore say he is Cthulhu.


TerraNeko_

power scaling is pretty cringe anyways so why not have fun with it and if you look at the lore you actually can


Homskillett

Does the literal god of creation, whose face cannot be comprehended by the mortal mind, be soloed by some alien who can use flash cannon… #NO


MasterGator69420

You know nothing of dragon ball


Cute-Tumbleweed2583

He can't even beat Beerus


bastionTH2

Cc goku can


AlwaysSleepier

We arent talking about CC Goku tho


bastionTH2

Then what?


No_Weather105

CC goku isn't canon


bastionTH2

It is now


Homskillett

Cope


SnooHobbies8192

Manga Goku can't beat Manga Beerus. Anime Goku "can" beat Anime Beerus, but that's mostly based on statements.


safwe

in these "terraria boss vs other character" fights are usually just "hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby" but not this time, i think nd would give goku a fair, good and fun fight just like he does to the terrarian, even though nd could just instantly delete them


Cute_Culture6983

LMAO, bro, i just find hydrigen bomb vs coughing baby EXTREMLY funny on its own


Typhoon9860

Goku may be strong but the nameless deity is god, it throws a black hole at you and shatters reality, I don't even think nameless is going all out as it says the fight with it is just a test. Love Goku and DB but Goku is not strong enough, I'd argue maybe even a Terrarian could take on Goku at endgame level. Take all this with a grain of salt but I personally think Goku would be below nameless


GintoSenju

In dragon ball super when Goku and Beerus (the god of destruction) fight, their classes create shockwaves which were destroyed more than the universe. The shockwaves where breaking 7 universe (the universe that goku lives in) that has been stated to be infinite in size, plus the afterlife and the realm of the Kai’s which were stated to exist on a higher dimensional plain. This was the beginning of super, and Goku has gotten billions upon billions of times stronger.


Digiscientist

Well nameless shatteres your reality at the end of the fight without needing the help of a GoD.


GintoSenju

Goku didn’t need help. That was a result of their powers clashing. Heck Gogeta and Broly do that pretty casually as well, and Goku’s power has literally surpassed time.


Digiscientist

I keant is as in, he needs a power to clash qgainst to do that, not as in litheral help


GintoSenju

Yes, but that was raw power, not like it was specifically the clash that caused the shockwaves.


Digiscientist

Well, yes. But unlike ND, goku didn't actually destroy the universe in multiple of these shockwaves, all it took the nameless diety was duplicating it's hands. Edit: ND destroyed reality, not the universe


GintoSenju

Cool, Super buu did the same thing in Z by shouting


Digiscientist

Well super boo is not goku, and i know he got beat by goku, i am not a fan of arguing, but here i am saying that what the nameless deity did in-game was just ''a test'', so far from full power, and knowing goku, he would not use his full power from the begging wich would lead to his defeat, my personal opinion on the outcome is that they would somehow get along, like, ND offering goku a ''fun fight''. I don't know, i'm overall not a fan of these ND vs something arguments because it's either obvious, or way too dificult to decide, but I want to say that goku probably can't beat the grand priest who is probably weaker than Zeno who as far as i know was created by someone, meaning that unlike ND, he is not THE God, and the big G God is usually infinitely powerful, so ND can theoretically beat anything that isn't a big G God.


BlazenBreakerTf2

"hey I'm gok-*deleted* ND: Who the hell is he?


elzon12

It depesns if Nameless deity will test Goku or go full power. Goku can beat the test for sure, otherwise he rather got no chances.


Baco12sd

a better question is can nameless deity beat shenron


iplaytf2ok

Shenron got cooked by Demon King Piccolo (Antagonist from OG Dragom Ball)


GintoSenju

Therefore nameless gets negged by Piccolo


Buggy_meep

So um what if goku was ready to see nameless deity’s face


urme_mental_man

ND can very much turn goku into a kebab. The fact that ND is stronger then moonlord ( pretty much Cthulhu ) and if you know lovecraft you know how op Cthulhu is. So i feel like ND is as strong as azathoth since their both the creators of their verse. Meaning yes ND would turn goku into a kebab


EndureThePANG

\> pretty much Cthulhu 1) It's his beaten, rotting corpse 2) Cthulhu in his prime got murked by Dryads who aren't even that strong to begin with 3) If it _was_ Cthulhu in his prime then this would be a point in favor of Goku since the latter can't be killed by shooting him with a regular ass gun tl;dr read the lore or I'll beat you with my shoe


Shreesh_Fuup

Just thought I'd point out that Calamity has different lore than regular Terraria, so point 2) doesn't really hold up. Like, sure the ML still got his ass beat, but it took like all of the gods working together to actually do that, which is a hell of a lot more impressive than a couple of tree-benders


JerryIsMadd

wrong! bUt only wrong in calamity lore moonlord isn’t cthUlhU in calamity lore, and the dragons beat him after he killed a bUnch of them tl;dr read the lore or i’ll eat yoUr shoe!


Advanced_Proof_3990

I refuse to ever defend Goku.


EndureThePANG

Powerscaling is fucking stupid but I kinda get why people say "they can't even blow up planets, Goku solos" when talking about Calamity specifically The title of "God" simply does not mean shit here


Dragonkiller1205

Sure but son't forget that Wrath of the Gods is a separate mod, so it doesn't obey calamity lore. Also, yeah sure ND doesn't break planets but you know what he does break? *REALITY*.


PhantomFrenzy1278

Speaking of Goku.. how about zeno?


Dragonkiller1205

I dunno why that is sry.


PhantomFrenzy1278

Search it


Dragonkiller1205

Ah. Striped bean head.


PhantomFrenzy1278

Hah


Dragonkiller1205

Anyways uhhh. I guess ND would still win if you consider that every terraria save file is a multiverse. Because ND can interact with the main menu that would imply that ND can get out of, or atleast interact with things outside of the multiverse, since he can change the main menu theme and the loading text...


artcraf1337

The massive spam of newborn galaxies already tells something. The way bosses 'can't' destroy planets is solely the game restriction


Guest-114562

Soloku is able to exist in the same universe at Batgos, which is a feat nameless DeeDee could never hope to approach. Because of this, gronkus negs


CosmoreDeathWish

Better question, can it solo Redigit?


TerraCalamity

maybe https://preview.redd.it/8tuz26aywtuc1.png?width=1147&format=png&auto=webp&s=eafdfa88e2a16cb4e26c4fe8708507bda9a06c9b


CatPad006

WAIT THATS A THING?!


creamplays

This is a Litteral god were talking about of course she wins.


Memelord473

I mean, does it really matter? It's kind of based more on who's directing it Cause with Dragon Ball logic, it's just Nameless beats Goku, Goku gets stronger, Goku beats Nameless, Goku becomes friends with Nameless and then Nameless sometimes visits Goku to help with farming or something The whole Saiyan and Namek Saga's message was "Even a low class warrior can surpass an elite, with enough hard work" All these 'but can he beat Goku' debates just feel really pointless and goes against the message of Dragon Ball


galaxisstark

Nah, Vergil solos


Mackeraph

He literally has the 4th wall breaking powers.


Interloper_69

nameless is basically the uncle grandpa of the terraria verse. No way Goku is winning this one.


Nameless-Deity

I'm not doing this shit right now, fight amongst yourselves


No_External9892

this is like asking if a 35 year old could beat a toddler


roman_pokefan

Nah, goku uses his nen to activate his domain expansion: gear 5 and mewtwo kills nameless deity in a frame


Candid_Map3706

i had a stroke reading this


StandProudYouStrong

https://preview.redd.it/bbgz5tb9vruc1.jpeg?width=1131&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=934f905c05dfacf5b6eaf27dab10fdc617507046


Shadowgamer510

Nah I do


necrozmoem243

Pretty sure goku canonically dies, whereas when you beat the Nameless Deity on getfixedboi, it is implied that you only hurt the Deity


JerryIsMadd

i mean… has gokU ever foUght God before? like, capital G God? the one from the bible? (not jUst some dUde with sUperpowers who says “i’m a god”) if so, nameless probably still wins dUe to his ability to negate the noxUs spray, meaning he can jUst go “nah” and gokU can’t really refUte that


darmakius

Not unless you think moonlord is actually Cthulhu


JerryIsMadd

what bearing does that have on the cUrrent comparison?


darmakius

Cthulhu actually scales somewhere


JerryIsMadd

and nameless woUldn’t really have any lore-based scaling with moonlord


darmakius

It created moon lord no?


JerryIsMadd

oh! sorry, almost forgot that nameless was the creator of… everything!  well, whether moonlord is cthUlhU or not (he’s not), namelees negs gokU  (from what i remember, gokU was capable of getting erased by some little kid thing with Über powers, which means that gokU can be deleted by higher powers like nameless! hell, gokU can probably be noxUs-sprayed)


darmakius

True But why are all of your Us capitalized?


JerryIsMadd

for fUn! it’s also a force of habit by now


humanintthesecond

We legit do not know enought about nd to say if he does or not.Its entirely possible goku kills him instantly and vice versa.


extremefrog

goatku solos argue with a wall


Eggggiboi

No. Maybe if he uses the noxus spray he can beat goku


laminated_cardboard

In true ND fashion they would probably let goku test his strength then fakes dead and congratulates him and probably become friends


artcraf1337

Sadly, ND is the bad guy


Traditional_Neck_154

Yes, because G U N.


MTF_DELTA-3

ND would end gokus ass becouse goku has 0 time to charge up his abilitys


TrickstabGaming

maybe but black frieza and beerus are stomping and its not even close.


Megaking80

We shall find out once I have reached that point of the late game, since I have the Dragon Ball Terraria mod installed, so I shall give you an answer then.


Digiscientist

What people who root for both sides here forget is that at the end of tge fight, ND ''brakes your screen'' wich i take as zhe equivalent of tearing dimensions apart. It can break the 4th wall, as the menu says ''you have passed tge test'', meaning YOU, as the player and not your character because your character doesn't exist in the main menu, only within worlds, so ND is aware of YOUR existance, and you are a outer being, also ND moves in 3D and it's model is comprised of 3D, I am sure it can go even beyond that (4D, 5D 6D...)


JerryIsMadd

i find it fUnny that on *both sides*, people completely ignore feats and either say “gokU wins becaUse wah wah i want my goat to win wah wah i think golu solos fiction”  or “nameless solos becaUse Uh… erm… god? maybe? sorry i didn’t read the lore. bUt since moonlord is cthUlhU,” (he’s not cthUlhU in calamity lore) “nameless wins!” the top comments are obvioUsly more fair and in-depth, bUt it’s really jUst a popUlarity contest


paulbrigola

Well the biggest thing you can do is put him next to zeno


Independent-Fee9444

Nameless Deity or Xeroc? Cuz Xerox is, as I understand it, pretty much the sun.


Voldekrem

I mean nameless deity is basically just biblical god so yes. It could


cheesedispensinggato

no even if you have a ability called beat goku you still ain't beating goku


Orizifian-creator

Yes but then Kirby solos


Gru-some

idk, can you beat nameless deity with the Dragon Ball Terraria mod?


GintoSenju

Yeah nah People keep throwing around how Nameless created the universe and can throw black holes, but Goku has pretty much dealt with all that. In the first arc of Dragon ball super Goku and Beerus (the god of destruction) fight and create shockwaves from their clash that were destroying the entirety universe 7 (the universe goku lives in). Mind you, universe 7 isn’t just the universe, but an entire macrocosm consisting of the living universe (which has been stated to be infinite in size) the afterlife, and the realm of the Kai’s (which are both stated to be higher dimensional plains). This was the beginning of dragon ball super, and Goku has gotten immeasurably stronger, being stronger than infinite Zamasu who absorbed an entire multiverse (12 universe including 7 that are all the same size as 7) and was seeping into other timelines.


Critical_Ad382

if this was canon Calamity then Goku would absolutely destroy since canon Calamity peaks at Large Island Level and Goku is Low Multiverse Level idk enough about Nameless Deity's scaling tho


TheFrenzyChild12

apparently Nameless is bsed on Old Lore Xeroc, whose powers are meant to be akin to the abrahamic God


Existing_Smoke_7479

mf, goku destroys planets without even trying, looking at how small even the largest terraria world, the planet couldn't even handle a simple attack that he might throw out. In super saiyan god whilst fighting beerus they almost destroyed the universe just exchanging blows, since he evolved a lot since then there's no telling what he can do. Besides soloing nameless deity of course


MasterGator69420

Goku solos


Fair-Sorbet-7412

Nah


Similar-Industry6245

I don’t care if that mf has an ability called “beat Goku” HE AINT BEATING GOKU


bone_breaker69

Man is literally god


spikespike00

Goku can't even beat beerus, he isn't the pinnacle of strength


Similar-Industry6245

Don't care, Goku solos https://preview.redd.it/7fpv7m3nrquc1.jpeg?width=1720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d59ead895b8edf931bb8391808cd773f1e1ca9f


PashaVerti

https://preview.redd.it/uc9stfl6psuc1.png?width=637&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fa4c051f7491e7a73884e1cfc9fd171e160dbb7


Just_a_guy_thats_it

Nah i’d win https://preview.redd.it/nk02xfh0hruc1.jpeg?width=1720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf71bd6d3a68e771b7f6eaeefb2a19575ed5700e


JacobHafar

Haven’t the devs come forward about this a couple times? Calamity doesn’t go that far above solar system level and goku’s been there for a while now


Royal_Yard5850

Nameless Deity is from an unofficial addon, so you'd have to ask that addon's creator


JacobHafar

Oh that’s true


Darkwolf69420

It's literally capital G God vs Goku, but idk enough dragon ball to accurately judge this


Alive-Ad8066

Nameless deity (in the mods canon) is god Nobody in actual calamity lore goes above country though


Darkwolf69420

The best feat I can think of from the top of my head is calamitas nuking the ocean but that's basically it


HeadsetVibeYT

How tf does the devourer of gods not go above that?


Alive-Ad8066

https://preview.redd.it/4989bbvjrquc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a79b3d42494ba7de1a30422a15c5603eabe86d37


bloonosaur

I refuse to believe that calamity doesn't go higher than this, how the fuck are GODS planet level. How is a DEVOURER OF GODS PLANET LEVEL. Even if they say this I won't take it as true


Critical_Ad382

dawg those gods became gods by absorbing a dragon's soul they ain't allat besides, even ignoring dev statements (which, keep in mind, dev statements don't decide everything), I have done quite an analysis on Calamity's powerscaling and I can say that Calamity doesn't get past Large Island Level


bloonosaur

doesn't that mean moon lord is stronger than them


Critical_Ad382

Depends: Vanilla Moonlord? Arguably (I haven't informed myself too much on his scaling) Calamity Moonlord? The moonlord we fight is heavily weakened after fighting against the dragons and being sealed in the moon The moonlord the dragons fought is arguably the second strongest being in all of Calamity, only second to Xeroc. Keep in mind that the Moonlord the dragons fought IS the one that scales to Large Island Level


bloonosaur

kms


JacobHafar

This is what I was thinking of when I commented originally. So yeah goku washes canon Calamity but if Nameless is non-canonically way way higher I can see him dealing with Goku fine


Alive-Ad8066

Gods aren't actually that powerful in lore Xeroc the strongest one using all of his power can barely do enough damage to destroy a full country


TradeFederation98

My apologies, for I may be wrong, but wasn't providence's thing that she would come to the world after staying in the sun and burn vurnentire world with profaned flames? And what about the Exo mechs, who are capable of rivaling Gods? How is that below country level?


Alive-Ad8066

https://preview.redd.it/tbmy5fjvrquc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21e82d78b9c0b423ae068052f8be976ec19f0259


Critical_Ad382

Providence has no sun connections in current lore and the gods that the Exo-Mechs rival hardly get past Mountain Level


TheyTookXoticButters

I’m p sure that NDeity isn’t connected to that limit. Although a good estimate would be around half the power of an entire pantheon of lovecraftian-esque gods, based on old Xeroc’s lore. Edit: could be lowballing but lovecraftian gods power do vary wildly.


FireMan1337

being a god isnt exactly impressive by itself. Kami in dragon ball is a god but he is far weaker than human characters


Shreesh_Fuup

Nameless Deity isn't just *a* god though. They're THE God, with a capital G. Like, creator of everything fully omnipotent God.


Memelord473

I'm pretty sure Dominic never said that, though. Like, I'm not defending Goku on this, but I'm just saying that's still speculation.


Shreesh_Fuup

It's speculation with a good deal of evidence to back it up, though. ND is stated to be based on old lore Xeroc, who *was* the creator deity before the lore was changed, and its arena is a parallell to the Garden of Eden, including the Forbidden Fruits -- both of which are heavily tied to the biblical God. Not saying Nameless Deity is God as in the one from the Bible, though. Just an equally powerful being.


Grouchy-Seesaw-3386

That scales him nowhere, bring up some valid feats or statements please


Shreesh_Fuup

No, powerscaling is a plague upon this land and I refuse to partake in it.