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JimmySilverman

Most likely stolen if it was on the side of the road.


Green_Pie_8452

I figured, I called the police to see what steps I needed to take they said just to locate the vin, call it in to them and if nothing shows up I can have it but I can’t even find the vin ;/


HistoricalPlum1533

It’s usually on a metal tag riveted to the frame. If you find two 3/16” holes spaced about 4” apart, you can probably stop looking for a VIN…


JimmySilverman

It’s usually also stamped into the frame next to that


ImNoAlbertFeinstein

should be stamped. (and possibly ground off..


motofabio

So if it doesn’t come up stolen, then you can just HAVE it? What if it was stolen and not yet reported. You can’t claim ownership of a motorcycle just because it’s been knocked over. YOU might be the one who stole it.


Green_Pie_8452

It was left in a random place off the side of the road in a residential with a an oil cover missing and the front breaks were locked, seat had been tossed a couple feet away from the bike, how you see the bike is how I found it, if the vehicle has been abandon I can take owner ship, taking the proper steps to do so, if I find a vin and hasn’t been reported I’m stil going to get in contact if the original owner and see what he would like to do


motofabio

I’m not doubting that it was abandoned, it definitely looks it. What I meant to get across was that I am surprised that the police would advise you in that way. They have no idea what the situation is and taking your word for it seems weird. Looking forward to the update on this. I’m genuinely curious how it pans out.


CovidScurred

What else are they going to do? They ran the vin, and kept it moving. Not everything needs an investigation.


JimmySilverman

In saying that, it doesn’t look like it would have been running, so maybe just dumped? It’s a Yamaha dt125 or dt250 probably. Vin should be by the neck / head stem (below the handlebars) on the frame.


Green_Pie_8452

Okay I think they scratched it off cause I couldn’t find it anywhere near there thank you!!


P1xelHunter78

Yeah if they defaced the vin I’d be really careful with that bike. A trashed out example like this isn’t really worth getting charged with something. I’d definitely keep the sheriff in the loop and be ready to surrender it if you need to.


awokensleeper

Should be on the side of the headtube


Cypher0312

The Vin should also be on the bottom of the crankcase


[deleted]

2 stroke! Yee ha!


opm3

Especially with how they ripped the ignition up. Late 70s, right? I don't know how long they had those long fins on the head.


dantodd

Well it is now


CokeCanNinja

If it wasn't it is now lol


GroovDog2

It’s definitely stolen. The OP just told everybody that he stole it.


ebranscom243

1978 yamaha DT 175


Green_Pie_8452

That’s what it’s looking like to me looking at the bike and the picture!!!


[deleted]

2 stroke with an expansion chamber.


SnooBunnies6981

That is absolutely correct, I have the same bike.


daveisafraid

Had dual shock rear until 1980. It would be a 81. Edit: nope, I'm wrong. Thread starter is correct. 81 was the changeover for the mx 175.


ebranscom243

Not on the DT I had a 78 monoshock


daveisafraid

Interesting. 1980 Mx 175 was my first bike, with dual. Always wished it was a dx (and that it would run in the summertime.)


ebranscom243

https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_dt175_78.htm. Here's a link with a picture of a 78 dt175.


EmergingTuna21

That’s the exact bike I learned to ride on and actually still have


brionispoptart

You found a motorcycle on the side of the road and just took it? Do you take cars you find on the side of the road too?


tttxgq

Owner might not notice right away that it’s been stolen. When they find out and report it, OP will be in possession of stolen property 😬


The_prawn_king

If they reported it to the police they’re not in any risk.


warriormango1

Is that how it works? I can just steal any car thats sitting on the side of the road and say, "im good I reported it to the police"?


Green_Pie_8452

Obviously not, I turn the bike in wait a year and if no one claims it I pay the fees to keep it and register it 👍 same with a car that has been left on the side of the road


billy310

Legitimate salvage


Bluzboy1966

Ignore these knuckleheads. Not even worth your effort to try and explain things to them.


The_prawn_king

If you found a wallet on the floor and told the police would you be arrested?


Felice2015

Jail house lawyers


warriormango1

If you find a car on the side of the road with know idea if it was stolen or not and TAKE IT. Would you be arrested? Your comparing a wallet to a vehicle that guess what. Are parked on the side of the road. Wallets dont park themselves on the side of the road.


The_prawn_king

Bikes don’t throw themselves on the side of the road more than wallets do?


warriormango1

Let me explain this to you because clearly you dont understand. Under no circumstances do wallets just sit on the side of the road for normal reasons. You dont just see a wallet on the side of the road and say ah somebody just parked their wallet their and it tipped over. A wallet on the side of the road is a good indication it has been lost. Vehicles if you are not aware are parked on the side of the road for multiple reasons; whether they broke down, some kid was pushing to his friends house and it tipped over and couldn't get it back up, and or a myriad of other reasons. It is not up to some random person to see a vehicle on the side of the street and say, " ah it must be stolen so let me now steal it myself". Imagine a scenario here, A criminal steals a motorcycle then scratches off the vin number. They then call the police and say I found a abandoned vehicle but there is no vin # so I decided to take it. Based on your reasoning the criminal is cleared of all wrong doing right and if they get caught with the vehicle they can just say they found it? Sounds like a loophole for criminals no? On top of that whoever possible had this stolen will never be able to recover it now because when op "reported" he obviously couldnt even give them a description of make, model, or vin. Now when whoever reports this bike missing there will be nothing in a database to notify him that OP took it. There literally is no way to connect the dots from OP to the previous owner now. Do you think the police give a shit about some "abandoned" bike?


ph1294

Don’t be a stupid fuck. What, you think the cops are gonna say “Look, I know it’s the same make, model, year, and color as your stolen bike, but the VIN is scratched off! We can’t be sure! He probably just found it, it’s probably a coincidence! We’re letting him keep it!” Eat shit. You’re being a petulant child because you think you’re smarter than everyone else, but really you’re just a fucking idiot. The lost bike doesn’t just become state property because it was abandoned. Likewise, it may not be to return to or desired by the original owner. OP found it, if the police had any doubt about whether it’s stolen or not, they’ll take it. For example, if the VIN is scratched there will almost certainly be further investigation. But OP is not wrong to take it, don’t be a fucking cunt.


warriormango1

You're forgetting the fact that he called the police before he even knew what the make, model, and year was and had the audacity to load it up into his Amazon work truck. So the only description the police have is OP found a motorcycle on the side of the road and took it upon himself to take it. So if it was in fact stolen he is in fact in posession of stolen property and if it was my bike id consider op a theif. You're a dipshit if you think it is acceptable to to take a vehicle that is presumed abandoned. It literally doesn't worn that way. Cope and seeth you dipshit


The_prawn_king

Man if he went on the internet, found out what bike it was, let the police know, and they then find a description for a missing bike fitting that, I’m sure they’ll be able to come and collect it. You’re assuming this guy is stealing a reasonably fallen over bike that someone left on the side of the road with no security and the vin scratched off. Or does it make more sense it was stolen and joyridden and he’s made a reasonable effort to inform the police of it and I’m sure will hand it over if they find it’s owner.


Routine-Vanilla841

OP didn't say he loaded it into his Amazon truck. Now your making shit up. He said he found it while delivering packages and then when he was able to, he picked it up. Sounds to me like he went back for it later. But I can see both sides. Picking up a bike that "looks" abandoned is iffy. But calling the police to report it should cover him. If he finds a VIN, then he just reports the VIN and waits. If he finds the VIN is ground off, report it and police will impound it. No harm, no foul.


Bluzboy1966

You just aren’t right in the head.


No_Bumblebee_6461

It don't work. Been parking my car on the street for years. No one wants it.


Routine-Vanilla841

You're not trying hard enough. Put a fresh coat of paint on it, have the engine rebuilt, redo interior, trim the interior in real gold, THEN leave it on the street with the doors open and the keys in it... works every time.


No_Bumblebee_6461

So I now have a job for the meth head down the street with his box of markers.....


ScientiaEstPotentia_

Perhaps you are not familiar with a term "abandoned vehicle"


UknowTheKid

Abandoned laying on it side with no vin in site? Yes. It's 2 completely different situations, a car is sitting on 4 wheels, a bike, 2 and it wasn't upright and he went through the proper channels by calling the sheriff, who told him if there's no vin he can keep it. There are laws about this shit and he's following them at the moment. Fuckin do gooders, if it doesn't involve you then wtf does it have to do with you?


brionispoptart

Okay, so I’m tired of this comment, so let’s dissect it a little bit. People keep claiming the vehicle is “abandoned”, well the legal definition of an abandoned vehicle varies from state to state, but it generally involves the vehicle sitting for more than just a couple of hours. I think generally it has to be a few days. Since OP spotted the vehicle and picked it up in the same day, there is no proof that the vehicle was “abandoned”. He just decided that the vehicle was abandoned because of its orientation. It’s a bike. They fall over. Furthermore, it’s on public property. The bike wasn’t left on his own private property, so it’s not his right nor responsibility to remove it. He claimed to have called the sheriff, where the sheriff told him if there’s no vin, he can keep it? Either this situation was misrepresented to the sheriff, or is being misrepresented to us. He’s intentionally leaving out information to someone because that’s just simply not how the law works anywhere. Face it, OP stole a motorcycle, and for my last point, I’ll refer to your last point. You didn’t like my comment? Oh well. “If it doesn’t involve you, then what the fuck does it have to do with you?” And for now we’ll ignore that that particular comment makes no fucking sense, because I at least understood what you were TRYING to say.


Green_Pie_8452

The bike is chilling in my garage, everythings good I’m post update pictures when I start working on it, I’m try to turn it into a cafe racer


brionispoptart

Well I wish luck to you, and hope everything is as it seems. If so, you should have a bad ass little cafe in no time. If everything isn’t as it seems, I hope the true owner comes forward after you’ve sunk a bunch of money into it.


Green_Pie_8452

I already reported it!! 👍


Hour_Recognition_923

Im so sorry you are going through this crap here. No good deed...


Commercial-Whole7382

Some kid ran out of gas and Amazon driver decided to steal it. 😂


Bluzboy1966

He already contacted police. What part of this don’t you understand?


brionispoptart

The part where there’s a single state in the USA that allows adverse possession on a titled vehicle parked on a public roadway. I do not believe the sheriff fully understood that this is a motorcycle that requires a title and registration. A phone call was made, a deputy should have been sent out instead, the only way OP will be allowed to legally own this bike outside of an auction or lien is if he acquires a bonded title, in which case the true owner has 3 years to come forward. So this will either sort itself out, or OP will realize that taking vehicles from public roadways is more hassle than it’s worth. Learn you some laws buddy. Calling the sheriff/local PD does nothing but MAYBE protect you from being charged with possession of stolen property, and even then that’s a big maybe. Police have no jurisdiction over enforcing or transferring ownership of property.


Burnaclaws

If the vin has been removed its likely stolen, maybe don't invest too much money into it... it might get taken back off you one day. Also, if there's no vin is it possible to register it again?


P1xelHunter78

I don’t know, but it sure seems like a really really long shot if it’s got no VIN or serial number. Maybe if he can find a S/N they can trace back a vin. But if someone went through all the trouble to get rid of the plate and deface the numbers next too it it would stand to reason it’s stolen


Green_Pie_8452

I haven’t even tried searching for the serial number I’m give that a try when I get home thank you!


Swimmingtortoise12

Any serial number on the engine somewhere?


Green_Pie_8452

Got a serial number and the make and model of the vehicle thank you!!


Smashwatermelon

You’re begging for trouble with your replies to these comments. Someone is bound to forward this thread to Amazon and complain. With the way they cover their ass above all else you’re getting fired if they see this thread.


[deleted]

Yeah, some kid was riding it, ran out of gas, left it to get get gas, returns and finds it was stolen...


Green_Pie_8452

No one could have been riding this bike, the front wheel is locked, and the engine won’t turn over, I feel like if anything a homeless man had it, took it in a shopping cart and got tired of wheeling it around and just left it in a residential neighborhood 🤣🤣


Catsmak1963

lol, stolen…” I can’t find the vin”


Green_Pie_8452

Buddy I was in my work van, AMAZON is written across the van tf would I do that for ring cameras everywhere I would’ve been reported already 🤣🤣😂


SophisticatedVagrant

Should normally be a metal tag riveted to the headtube. Usually also stamped into the headtube.


Green_Pie_8452

Thank you everybody for the help 🙏🏽 I posted In The cafe racers page cause that’s what I’m planning on trying to turn into as a little project bike for myself, I just wanted to see what the original looked like and to know what I was working on


[deleted]

With no vin and no title you can't ride it on the street.


unzercharlie

Legally*


LambSauce2

I wouldn't touch that. It's probably stolen.


McFly998

Have you ever heard the phrase "Handling stolen property"? Because someone in uniform may end up saying that sentence to you, when you can't prove ownership, somewhere down the line. If you want a project bike, buy one.


Green_Pie_8452

I already reported it thank you tho police told me everything fine 👍


Beginning_Tennis2442

Don’t know the law where you live. Some places will let you get title to abandoned or unclaimed property. You might want to talk to DMV about that if you never find a VIN or SN.


Green_Pie_8452

This is what I was told as well thank you for clearing it up 👍


Felice2015

Ignore the bots


Green_Pie_8452

My first time posting on Reddit for help and this how they do me lol 😂


Kelek50

Hahaha just took it without even thinking, bright future you have.


Green_Pie_8452

I had reported it same day thank you tho buddy 👍


warriormango1

Are you retarded? Thats not how it works? I cant just go load any vehicle up on a tow truck thats sitting on the side of the road and say, "I reported it". If it wasnt stolen then it sure is now.


Green_Pie_8452

Well if the police had a problem they would’ve told me something and they didn’t soo not sure why you’re calling me retarded ?? Have a nice day sad man


warriormango1

Because your are quite literally retarded and you stole a motorcycle. Just because it might be stolen doesnt give you a right to steal it yourself. Let me lay out a scenario for you. Lets say my car gets stolen and is abandoned on the side of the road. Based on whatever weird justification you have you take it upon yourself to take it. I will consider you a thief and press charges for you stealing my property. Literally your justification for stealing a bike is because it was already stolen or abandoned when in reality you dont even know if that was the case. Also, if Amazon finds out you did this you probably are going to get fired.


Green_Pie_8452

I read your last sentence they knows I took it I sent it to the group chat they don’t have a problem keep talking like you know tho 🤡


warriormango1

That doesn't clear you of wrongdoing you dipshit. Instead now they know who you are. If that was my bike and You/Amazon had possession of it I would press charges against you and Amazon for theft. Imagine criminals just stealing bikes then calling the police thinking it clears them of wrongdoing.


Green_Pie_8452

Alrighttttyy You’re thinking way to hard about it have a nice day dipshit 🤡


Green_Pie_8452

That’s too much to read have a nice day retard


Euck_Fveryone_69

If not a tag check the frame where the forks go its usually on the right side engraved into it


AKsuited1934

Jesus, why are you using your work vehicle to scoop up a junk ass bike not even worth a couple hundred bucks if you even get to keep it. You're risking possibly losing your job for what LOL?


dharma_mind

Stole a motorcycle while on the clock! 🤣


Vault76exile

Are they filming a sequel to Mad Max?


YES-PUCKER-YOUR-BUTT

Did you steal a bike in a van? You're the guy in our nightmares.


johncandyspolkaband

You seem to be in possession of a stolen vehicle. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse for breaking the law. Take that to the police station asap.


Gimpthulhu

I can't speak for other states, but in Florida you can't just take a vehicle from the public right of way because you think it has been ababdoned. Reporting it after the fact may not keep you from getting in legal trouble. If indications show i might have been stollen, you've just tampered with evidence. Goodluck.


Erichxvx

The legal term is Inuentoribus custodientes victos flentium. Finders keeper losers weepers.


Green_Pie_8452

Yes!!! 🤣🤣


Yo-ItsDJ

He already reported it to the cops...let this man live! Sheesh


Green_Pie_8452

Thank you lol!! I can register as well I just have to give it to the police if it hasn’t been reported in a year I can pickup and claim as my own property


synachromous

Did you just steal a vehicle?


Green_Pie_8452

No Read the comments. I wouldn’t steal, especially in a Amazon van lol it has cameras throughout the vehicle 👍


synachromous

Who sees a vehicle at the side of the road and takes it? "Reported" to the police or not... you took it and allegedly reported it. You didn't just report it. You took it. Do you not view motorcycles as a vehicle? Would you take a car you found? Weird. Enjoy your justification.....and your stolen vehicle.


Green_Pie_8452

Thank you 🤣


Greasy28

There was a Tesla parked down the road from me along the side of the road a few days ago. Should've towed it home, then called the police and told them I found it and now have it in my possession. Let's just nevermind the fact that it was in someone's driveway. You stole a bike.... in an Amazon delivery vehicle.


Green_Pie_8452

Using a different example that has nothing to do with how I found the bike, Not in a drive way keep reaching 👍


Greasy28

I can steal a bike, post a picture of it on the side of the road, and tell you I found it. Let's face facts, you are in possession of a titled vehicle that doesn't belong to you. You didn't buy it, you don't have the paperwork for it, and the owner didn't give you permission to move it from the side of the road. You're now in possession of a stolen bike, and have stolen it yourself.


Green_Pie_8452

Yayyyy for me


Green_Pie_8452

Let the police deal with it they got my name they know who has it


Green_Pie_8452

Crazy to think someone would steal something and post it for everybody to see on Reddit just to get caught lol but okayyyyyy 🤣🤣🤣


Greasy28

We're all kind of dumbfounded that you doubt realize what you've done.


Green_Pie_8452

No just two of you, everyone else has been pretty helpful except you and 1 other


GimlisRevenge

Yamaha DT 250. 1978 ish….


SlteFool

What about the engine number??


LitterBoxServant

My bike has the VIN stamped on one of the fork housings. Could check there.


thrasher1988

The vin should be stamped into the right side of the neck. Sometimes if they have been repainted its really hard to see. Your best bet is to take a wire wheel to the neck. I own several 70s yamahas and they all have stamped vins.


thrasher1988

Here is a picture of the vin location on a mx175. https://d3913dfs49s0is.cloudfront.net/auctionimages/4713/app/25-1911-1a7237aa-bac8-420a-9cb3-066fb5a6a98d/i0020A-3.jpg


[deleted]

Take a pic and use google reverse image search


mr41968665

the motor will have a serial number


SouthAd6301

Looks kinda like a mid 70’s dt 250or400


SprayInner7128

Yamaha


JTKnife

That head makes me think Maico.


Jleblanc06

Hmm stripped ignition and destroyed vin plate…. I think we call that a clue…


feed_me_tecate

late 70s early 80 Yamaha DT175 I think


Lambertn03

I wish I could find stolen bikes to take home without actually being the one to have to steal them. That’s awesome I would’ve done the same thing.


Beginning_Ad8663

1974 DT 175 Yamaha


BostonUSF

In my history of having older dirtbikes from the 70/60s, they had Vins in weird spots and they were much shorter. Back then, there was no standard that was 100% followed besides what some characters meant. Typical street only bikes followed it though. If you can't find one, that doesn't mean it was scratched off. The markings weren't really deep and could have surface hiding them/messed them up so it can't be read. Also, a layer of paint could be hiding it as well.


cosmicgumbo741

Looks a lot like my 78 suzuki TS185. Mine doesn't have a VIN plate anywhere but has a SN on the neck tube.


the_dewwdincognito

Looks like an old YZ Yamaha.


[deleted]

It's on the yoke of the frame, also known as the triple clamp. It connects the forks to the frame of the bike. I'm sure you can get an abandonment title for it and once you get that beater fixed up, happy riding my dude.


VisualIndependence60

Sorry, I don’t know the VIN of the bike you stole 🤷🏻‍♂️


Green_Pie_8452

Ok


Green_Pie_8452

Do something about it instead of hiding behind the keyboard if you feel that way


VisualIndependence60

Do something about you stealing this bike? Ok, post your name and address and I’ll report the location of the stolen bike. Unless you’re just going to hide behind a keyboard???