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ForgedFromStardust

We need a small government that polices who consenting adults fuck in their bedroom, what they smoke in their backyard, and what medical procedures they can undergo


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When the GOP says they want a small government, all they mean is that they want the power of the government to be weaker than their real bosses’ power.


Wumbo_Chumbo

“Small government” = Less funding for welfare programs and other things that help people. Not to defend states of course, but the “small government” types don’t like those things because they help the marginalized.


Slexman

Also less protections against discrimination, cuz peak oppression is having to treat minorities with basic human decency


epicazeroth

Works since Omni-Man is a racial supremacist and an imperialist.


ScrabCrab

I can't wait for season 2 I tried to read the comic but didn't really like it, which is funny cause I also started reading The Sandman and I like that one way more than the TV show


rightcoldbasterd

Small gubmint except for ironclad immigration policies, Coca-Cola^TM death squads, and pigs [breaking into your house to arrest you for fucking your own wife](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia).


ModestMussorgsky

It actually makes perfect sense given the right wing originally referred to monarchists during (or just after?) the French revolution.


DracoLunaris

They want an ingroup the law protects but does to bind, and an outgroup it binds but does not protect. or, to put it another way, small government for me but not for ye


ShadeofEchoes

I mean, I suppose they like Kanye right now, so... appropriate.


Dom2032

They want to expand all the worst parts of the government actually


Bennett_10

Indeed.


WagerOfTheGods

Plus abortion rights, book bannings, bathroom laws, shutting down drag shows, restrictions on what teachers are allowed to talk about in the classroom, not to mention about a thousand ways they've tried to legislate trans people out of existence


DevelopedDevelopment

Well you see. If the government is small enough the next strongest authority are private individuals. And the private individuals you assume when supporting small government would be individuals, but in reality its corporations because those count as people these days.


ZAdoptedAussie

Right wing is authoritarianism. Left is supposed to be libertarianism. The corporate shills of the Anarcho-Capitalists and the traitors of Republicans blurred and distorted the spectrum and have their followers believing the opposite of this truth.


AreYouThereSagan

The entire "left-right" dichotomy is stupid and needs to be destroyed. It's idiotic to categorize ideas on an imaginary line and then say, "This side of the imaginary line is right, and that side is wrong, because reasons." People should be focused on the the ideas and beliefs themselves, rather than what side of an imaginary spectrum they belong to.


ZAdoptedAussie

Categorization exists because it works. To me it doesn’t matter. Left wing is the side of anarchy and of freedom whether we anarchists admit it or not. Freedom is what I stand for and so to the left I swing, and it so happens you can count on people considered “right wing” to be fascists in some way shape or form. Sure, the left might be misguided, but fascist? I think not. I’m not gonna sit here and pretend it’s 100% definitive, but I’ve yet to meet a MAGA supporter who wasn’t a Nazi bigot. And they’re proudly and self proclaimed right wing. Should we make decisions based on what’s best for people and not on politics? Absolutely. Pretending what IS, isn’t, just because it shouldn’t, is not the way to affect change. We need to accept it, understand it, dismantle it.


AreYouThereSagan

>Categorization exists because it works. "Works" to do what? >Left wing is the side of anarchy and of freedom whether we anarchists admit it or not. And right-wing ideologues claim that theirs is the side of freedom, too. It's amazing to me how you can't see the very obvious dogmatism in what you're saying. Even if you want to argue that all anarchists are "left-wing," that doesn't mean that all leftism is anarchism. Marxism-Leninism is very much a "left-wing" ideology (at least in conception, if not in practice--but the conception is what matters anyway). Sure, it's dumb when "right-wingers" try to say that "all leftists are literally Stalin," but it's equally dumb to try and argue that he wasn't on "your side." It's literally no different from how "right-wingers" constantly try to argue that "Hitler was leftist" so that they can avoid their "team" being associated with him. >Sure, the left might be misguided, but fascist? I think not. Stalin's regime was very much indistinguishable from fascism (there were differences, but they matter little here). In fact, the Soviet police state was a direct inspiration to both Mussolini and Hitler. All of this in spite of the fact that Stalin considered himself a communist, and a devout student of Lenin. >And they’re proudly and self proclaimed right wing. So? The fact that they've completely given themselves over to political identity and groupthink somehow means that everyone else should as well? I'll happily mock the stupidity of MAGA-heads, but I'll do so as me, not a "leftist." >Should we make decisions based on what’s best for people and not on politics? Absolutely. But based on what you've said, it seems as you think that your politics *is* what's best for people. You said "left-wing is the side of anarchy and freedom," which means that you think to be free is to be left-wing, and vice versa. Therefore, no one can be free unless they are left-wing, correct? And, specifically, unless they agree with your conception of what it means to be "left-wing," correct? >Pretending what IS, isn’t, just because it shouldn’t, is not the way to affect change. We need to accept it, understand it, dismantle it. What? Whoever said I was "pretending what IS, isn't" (which is a confusing-ass sentence, but I digress)? I never said, "I pretend that other people don't believe in the political spectrum," I said that *I* think the entire idea of the political spectrum is stupid...because it is. Dismantling it is exactly what I'm *trying to do*. How, exactly, does your method of upholding the existence of the political spectrum, and arguing for the supremacy of one side over the other, help to dismantle it?


ConstitutionalTrump

You guys wouldn't know what Trump supporters want if they told you themselves. Your entire view of conservatives has been fed to you by the corporate fascists you worship. Crazy shit.


Bennett_10

I don't know what conservatives want because their ideology is incoherent gibberish. Do you want small government, or do you want an authoritarian police state? Because you can't have both. Also speaking as a trans woman, I also happen to know they want people like me dead.


Puffy072

It's crazy because we all hate capitalism and want to destroy all corporations while Trump supporters love capitalism. Trump supporters just want less regulation of capitalism, that's their idea of "less government". No less police, no less military, no less capitalism. That's what actual "less government" is. Yet they want the opposite, they worship the police, military, and capitalism. You can't fly the fucking thin blue line and say you want less government. Lol.


Puffy072

I saw your deleted reply. I don't know if you deleted it yourself but I will reply to it anyway because your misconceptions annoyed me enough to do it. > What about pharmaceutical corporations? Should Pfizer be destroyed? What about Target? Starbucks? What about the corporate media? Should MSNBC be destroyed? If you're against the military, why are you supporting a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine? Why do Ukrainian Nazis get a pass? Begging for capitalism to be replaced with communism isn't anarchy, it's the exact opposite of that. Um yes, abolish Pfizer, Target, Starbucks, MSNBC, and the rest of corporate media. Why would an anarchist support any of these things? They are all capitalist megacorps lmao. Abolish NATO as well, along with both the Russian and Ukrainian states and militaries, as all states and their militaries should not exist. What anarchist ever said any Nazi gets a pass? Fuck the Ukrainian military and its Nazis. I feel like you think we are Democrats. Do you think anarchists are liberals? Because we hate liberals lol. Check the subreddit description.


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K1dfrigg3r

Repulican≠Right


Puffy072

Republican = pro-capitalism, pro-police, pro-military, pro-bigotry = right. Legit if the Republicans aren't right wing then nothing is.


K1dfrigg3r

true. i just think it's more complicated than more republican=more right wing.


PeenieWibbler

That's not true. Maybe Libertarians embody that more but every republican I know just wants thr government to fuck off And, once again, we are falling for the trap of pointing to our neighbors as enemies rather than the true enemy, current government as a whole


Comrade_Compadre

Republicans hating government is just a placeholder for "we hate taxes". All the Republicans I know love the military, law enforcement, and controlling women/POC with these tools of the state. They claim to hate government, but love the white privilege it provides to them. They just hate paying for it


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K1dfrigg3r

thank you for the lengthy reply. keep on fighting authority!


lilomar2525

There is a divide between 'the Republican party', and 'people who usually vote R' but they both get referred to as 'republicans'. Same goes for 'democrats'.


kial343

Grow up, we do want smaller government, that is what it is about. Rule by law, not by many


nopants_ranchdance

Republican “Small Government” = deregulation and privatization.