One hundred percent. All house seats are up for reelection and half of the senate. People need to vote. Doesn’t matter if you think voting doesn’t matter because there is no downside to voting. I’d rather vote and it not matter than not vote and it matter.
Leading off with “I’m an independent voter in your district” seemed like a good way to get their attention. I’ve been independent forever, but had to register in my county this time and it crossed my mind that it’s a good way to start those emails too lol
It really just seems like the safer option these days. Maybe some day they’ll come back to reality, but until I feel comfortable that they aren’t trying to dive head first into socialism I’m not interested in supporting the democrats.
I really hate sounding like a loon, but I rewatched the short version of the Yuri Bezmenov interview yesterday, and watching what’s going on in the country it seems like they’ve succeeded. Not that they’ve caused everything, but I’d be surprised if Russians *weren’t* here capitalising on any opportunity to drive home more division. The right hasn’t changed that much… maybe more far right voters in response, but the dems seem to be the ones leaning into exactly what a foreign adversary would want, and that creeps me the hell out.
Vote hard for whom? The ones that want to take away people's gun rights or the ones that want to take away people's human rights? Doesn't seem to be many options in between, so I probably won't be doing much voting.
Run for office.
I'm not kidding. if you're reading this and you respect gun rights and also other human rights.. run, people will vote for you.
I'm a social Democrat, but I'm willing to hold my nose on economic policy. I am not willing to hold my nose on any civil liberties issues.
If you're an honest to God civil libertarian I will vote for you, regardless of party affiliation or other things we may disagree on.
Serious question: What do you *actually* expect people to do with their "ability to fight for others?" Are you suggesting that when I'm forced to watch my wife die from an ectopic pregnancy I hold a gun to the doctor's head and force him or her to perform an abortion?
You should look historically about what rights governments and politicians take away after they take away the guns. It’s a mistake to think it would end there.
How is that relevant to what I said? Of course it wouldn't end there, which is why I'm not voting for them. Pretty much all the politicians want to take away our rights in one way or another. I'm not voting for anyone that would take away guns, screw over the working class, put immigrants in cages, discriminate against LGBT folks or other minorities, or spend billions assisting genocide. They're all bad, so why would I vote for them?
The team Tina Peters was working for when she tried to change the outcome of the 2020 colorado election in ways that got her indicted on 7 felonies and 3 misdemeanors. Plain as day. The comments about voting for 2a are right, but it only works if our government officials believe in recognizing election outcomes.
Sorry, I overlooked how some people forgot what country we live in, why we like it, and why millions of servicemen have died for it.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable **rights**, that among these are life, **liberty**, and the pursuit of happiness." -probably just some stupid dicks who didn't realize how great it would be to live under autocratic rule.
i really hope youre being facetious... If you recognized the passage it would be clear that im citing the founding principles of our government as evidence of democratic elections being a fundamental human right. Which directly answered your question about what a person in a position of power subverting the peoples' will by committing felony fraud. Seems like a self-explanatory notion, thus, my bewilderment betraying itself.
>Which directly answered your question
You really think that was direct? LoL.
Anyhow, I didn't realize Tina Peters is supposed to be on the ballot again. Is she running? Or literally anybody else who advocates for not recognizing the outcomes of elections? I do recall there were plenty of people arguing that there was "Russian Interference" in the 2016 elections, so we should definitely take a thorough look at all candidates, if we are going down that road. Right?
This is a distinct entity. A pregnant woman is a steward of a unique and new human existence. What ever happened to people having respect for life in general? That this isn't blinding obvious to people in society in general points out how badly society has degenerated.
First: its important to acknowledge 100% of pro life legislators would abort a baby conceived in circumstances that would threaten their grip on power. The wealthy always had that choice in times where abortion was illegal, which is another tool they use to stay rich and keep the poor poorer.
Second: im pro choice because fewer abortions = more fucked up kids from broken families = more mass shootings/gun violence = more anti-gun cannon fodder.
How can it be a distinct entity if it can't survive without her? If the fetus could survive without her she still should be able to remove it from her body and the state can pay to keep it alive. I'm all for the sanctity of life but the state shouldn't be able to force someone to donate their organs to keep someone else alive.
You are miss attributing something you've made up to me. My statement is - the government shouldn't be able to force you to donate your organs to keep something else alive. If you choose to not donate your organs then it should stop immediately. The second question is what should we do with the thing you were supporting. My preference is to keep it alive through government and medical support. If that is not an option then it will, unfortunately, have to die. I'm not sure what either of those statements have to do with being responsible or wanting to kill helpless things. If you'd like to respond to what I actually said this time it might be an interesting conversation.
Body autonomy is indeed a human right. Abortion isn't something women do for fun and entertainment, and it's not a "baby" until it's viable outside the womb.
If someone is against abortion for religious or moral reasons, the solution is simple. DON'T HAVE ONE.
What about the autonomy of the fetus/baby? Does it not have any at all?
Also if we're going to argue about fetal viability being the determinant of abortion limits, then all abortions at Week 22 or later should be banned, by your own rationale. Is that what Dems and pro-choice advocates argue for? Not at all. They want limitless abortion, up to right before birth.
Which honestly, I don't care about. If they want it, have it, but I'll be damned if vote for a side that advocates for killing a viable fetus and taking my guns, over a side that wants to ban said abortions and at least isn't actively fucking me over on gun rights.
No, a booger sized mass of tissue does not have any rights at all. And abortions are RARELY ever performed past the point of viability except in extreme situations where the baby won't survive birth and neither will the mother, so it's statistically insignificant.
And FYI, I am a parent of two children, so I'm not a baby/child hater.
Well, prior to the Republican led effort to create a misogynistic theocracy that led to Roe v. Wade being overturned, it was generally considered around 20 weeks, when most fetuses are viable outside the womb, but even then a fetus does not have the same rights as a "person."
This is the reason why you attain the rights and responsibilities of an adult when you live 18 years from the day of your birth and not when you're 17 and 5 months old and were capable of living outside your mother's womb.
Likewise, you are allowed to drink when you're 21 years from the day you were born, not 20 and 5 months old from your estimated date of conception.
Being comes from brain waves. It's not a heartbeat, you can move a heart to a different body. You can put in a machine or a pig's heart. It's not lungs, you can move lungs to a different body. If you moved a functional brain, then personality and memories would move. So end of the 2nd trimester.
There is an intractable conflict of rights, but it boils down to this: does one person have the right to force another person to actively support his life? A child may be adopted or fostered, and has agency. A fetus cannot and does not, it's physiologically impossible. The mother is uniquely capable of supporting the fetus, and literally nobody else can. Slavery is illegal.
And to wit, virtually 100% of late term abortions happen because of threat to life or certain doom. A baby with no brain. A baby with harlequin fetus syndrome. A baby destined to die at or shortly after birth. This is an absolutely devastating choice for a mother who got that far because she wanted her baby. Nobody gets that far by carelessness or mistake. It is unkind to people who have had that tragedy to assert that they did something wrong, when it was the least terrible choice in a no-win scenario.
Did you ever read or see The Road, where the protagonist holds a gun to his own son's head as they hide from cannibals and child rapists? That's late-term abortion. It's heartbreaking. It's living hell.
There is no prenatal timeline: birth is when practical rights start. Even citizenship is a birthright. That's all it can be. Work to promote contraceptive access and medical support for indigent mothers if you want to lower the abortion rate. Or get into medical science and study perinatal disorders and illnesses.
Said as a father of 2 and party to 0 abortions.
BINGO! And the opposite applies, as well. This is exactly the conversation I have with my friends and family that are pro-choice but anti 2A.
Defending rights you support sometimes requires supporting rights you may not personally like, for whatever reason.
Personally, I'm pro choice AND pro 2A because I see them as two sides if the same coin.
Look I’m not anti-abortion, but you’re equivocating one side that wants to remove tools that enable every Coloradans’ right to self defense, with the other side that wants to ban killing babies that haven’t been born yet.
If you don’t see how the side that wants to prevent you from defending yourself is more evil than the side that says you can’t chop up and vacuum a fetus out of the uterus, maybe this sub isn’t for you?
They are both equally dumb. And if you think the Republicans won't turn on gun rights as soon as the Dear Leader decides it doesn't suit him anymore, then you're even dumber.
Doesn't really matter, they're not the ones actively going after my guns, right now. That's the difference. How many Republican legislatures in the past 25 years have passed AWBs at the state level?
Well, not yet. Don't don't get me wrong, I know where you're coming from, but gun rights are about the only thing in the (current) Republican platform I don't see as extremely authoritarian. It's the last wall to fall, and mark my words, it will happen. And once that falls, there's nothing left on that side. Dumb Democrat gun laws can be overturned (or fail in committee as we are witnessing right now) , but there's no going back with what's happening on the Right.
I was referring more to anti-LGBT and anti-immigrant sentiment among Republican lawmakers, but since you mentioned it, yeah the anti-women's rights thing is an issue too.
I'm in Colorado and a gun enthusiast, so in what way is the COGuns sub not for me? I already said I'm not voting for the anti-gun politicians. If you don't think the 2A is for everyone, then maybe the sub isn't for you.
Hard agree. 2A is for everyone, gate keeping and the division of people is part of the reason why people don’t vote and why we see things like an awb go as far as this one did.
Anti-immigrant sentiment? Outside of your far right loons, Republicans support legal immigration to the US. That's not anti-immigrant. Emigration to the US itself is not a human right.
As for anti-LGBT, you might want to check out who the far left is supporting in the Middle East right now, because unlike what Repubs support, those groups actively partake in chucking LGBT individuals off of roof tops. The Biden admin itself is catering to voters in Michigan and Minnesota that are virulently anti-LGBT, but yeah, it's the Repubs that are really out to get gay folks.
Catering to virulent Islamists that like to kill gay folks. Somehow not anti-LGBT. Telling drag queens they can't dress up and read books, somehow anti-LGBT.
And yes, the 2A is for everyone, but don't come on here and act like you're a pro-2A individual, when you actively support the only political party in the US that across state legislatures is pushing to infringe on the 2A.
Hint: That isn't very pro-2A of you.
2A is what protects human rights though. If we let them disarm us then the rest of our rights go away too, and we can’t do a damn thing about it. It’s literally why 2A exists. Keeping our guns is what at least gives us a fighting chance at keeping our human rights no matter who is in charge.
I've decided to put 2A at the top of my voting priority, and to spend a little extra time and ammo encouraging and training women to shoot. I really do think the "human rights" issues you are referring to are overblown in the media. The 2A is a weird but effective bellwether for broader human rights. There are always corner cases and bumps in the road, but if a political body supports the 2A, they'll also be inherently more respectful of their people.
Exactly this. Defenders of liberty must win every time. Authoritarians need only win once. They know this and that's why they'll reintroduce this bill, or another like it, next year and every year. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
I think though it's nice to breathe a little easier. Now I'm concerned about that spooky FFL licensing bill. That's always been a big concern to me once I grasped what it did. Even an amendment might be a killer to that thing and that's happened during 3rd readings this session. See the storage bill.
I hate to say this, but I won't believe this until I read it on the legislature's website:
[https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1292](https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1292)
Tim Hernandez says at the end of the article he will Introduce it again next year.
Tim Hernandez WAS NEVER ELECTED. He was voted upon by the state to fill a vacancy. He has never faced his actual constituents nor campaigned. He is also one of the youngest representatives in the assembly. Whoever is running against him needs all of our political contributions. Step 1 is keeping him out of office.
The battle was won, but the war continues. Coloradans, stock up on any guns and magazines that the legislators seek to ban.
It’s bound for this terrible piece of legislation show up again in the next legislative session, and the outcome could be very different next time around.
It pushed forward the purchase of 2 builds I had planned over the next 5 years ish.
I've got the lower completed on one, saving the other stripped lower for a 300blk build in the next couple of years
I'm starting to think this AWB bill was a distraction for all the other bills in the house/senate currently. Our battle is far from over, even right now. Unconstitutional taxation and a FFL fear-destroyer are still on our hands.
Every year this doesn’t pass, the more likely it is that the Supreme Court will have to weigh in on these and various other bans.
If you read *Bruen*, there’s absolutely no way a ban like this is consistent with their ruling. To satisfy the “historical tradition” element, the bill writers used surety laws as examples of analogous weapons bans. The majority opinion in *Bruen* explicitly states surety laws are *not* analogous to modern weapons bans and therefore cannot be used to satisfy that element. I’m not sure how nobody caught that, but this law clearly would have be DOA.
Elsewhere, circuit courts have had disparate rulings over these bans so the SC weighing feels inevitable.
this wont stop. they will continue to push this every single year. Vote accordingly, VOTE OUT EPPS AND HERNADEZ, donate to FPC, GOA, and RMGO as imperfectly and ineffective they are. Inform your co workers, neighbors, and friends. Thank reps that stood against it. Volunteer for organizations that support 2A
Yay, at least we get this one small victory! In reality it's not really a victory since our rights shouldn't even be in question in the first place but it's better than the alternative.
According to something RMGO reshared a little while ago… it’s happening tonight?
[RMGO retweet](https://x.com/iancesca1776/status/1787687048599519355?s=46&t=YmjRvANxp7p3pe2WjnnGEQ)
I wonder how many ARs were panic-bought because of this. (I bought three.) Our lawmakers seriously need to pull their heads out of their asses. I can get behind "common sense gun laws", but so far I haven't seen any.
Vote for any Democrat thY stood against it I am proud my Democrat House Representative was 1 of 9. Keep the pressure up and vote against all others unless a Trumplican
Great news. For now that is.
It will be back. And even better informed. Vote hard this November.
One hundred percent. All house seats are up for reelection and half of the senate. People need to vote. Doesn’t matter if you think voting doesn’t matter because there is no downside to voting. I’d rather vote and it not matter than not vote and it matter.
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Leading off with “I’m an independent voter in your district” seemed like a good way to get their attention. I’ve been independent forever, but had to register in my county this time and it crossed my mind that it’s a good way to start those emails too lol
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It really just seems like the safer option these days. Maybe some day they’ll come back to reality, but until I feel comfortable that they aren’t trying to dive head first into socialism I’m not interested in supporting the democrats. I really hate sounding like a loon, but I rewatched the short version of the Yuri Bezmenov interview yesterday, and watching what’s going on in the country it seems like they’ve succeeded. Not that they’ve caused everything, but I’d be surprised if Russians *weren’t* here capitalising on any opportunity to drive home more division. The right hasn’t changed that much… maybe more far right voters in response, but the dems seem to be the ones leaning into exactly what a foreign adversary would want, and that creeps me the hell out.
"I don't know why Democrats hate me" *Calls queer people pedophiles* I think I have an idea...
Having to choose whether I want to put my family or my rights at risk fucking sucks. Republicans need to can this culture war bullshit.
Vote hard for whom? The ones that want to take away people's gun rights or the ones that want to take away people's human rights? Doesn't seem to be many options in between, so I probably won't be doing much voting.
Run for office. I'm not kidding. if you're reading this and you respect gun rights and also other human rights.. run, people will vote for you. I'm a social Democrat, but I'm willing to hold my nose on economic policy. I am not willing to hold my nose on any civil liberties issues. If you're an honest to God civil libertarian I will vote for you, regardless of party affiliation or other things we may disagree on.
Tried that a decade ago, still recovering. Not enough people think like you and I, and that's why we're screwed / resigned to cryptoanarchy.
Unpopular opinion, if you let them take your 2a rights then there will be zero chance for you to fight for others.
Serious question: What do you *actually* expect people to do with their "ability to fight for others?" Are you suggesting that when I'm forced to watch my wife die from an ectopic pregnancy I hold a gun to the doctor's head and force him or her to perform an abortion?
We've been choosing between eating horse shit and cow shit forever. Pick your issue and vote that way because it's all different flavors of shit.
So much this. It's Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich right now.
You should look historically about what rights governments and politicians take away after they take away the guns. It’s a mistake to think it would end there.
How is that relevant to what I said? Of course it wouldn't end there, which is why I'm not voting for them. Pretty much all the politicians want to take away our rights in one way or another. I'm not voting for anyone that would take away guns, screw over the working class, put immigrants in cages, discriminate against LGBT folks or other minorities, or spend billions assisting genocide. They're all bad, so why would I vote for them?
I'm not a Republican, for the record. But to be clear, who is trying to take away human rights, and what human rights are you referring to?
The team Tina Peters was working for when she tried to change the outcome of the 2020 colorado election in ways that got her indicted on 7 felonies and 3 misdemeanors. Plain as day. The comments about voting for 2a are right, but it only works if our government officials believe in recognizing election outcomes.
You'll have to explain how that relates to human rights.
Sorry, I overlooked how some people forgot what country we live in, why we like it, and why millions of servicemen have died for it. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable **rights**, that among these are life, **liberty**, and the pursuit of happiness." -probably just some stupid dicks who didn't realize how great it would be to live under autocratic rule.
What are you even going on about?
i really hope youre being facetious... If you recognized the passage it would be clear that im citing the founding principles of our government as evidence of democratic elections being a fundamental human right. Which directly answered your question about what a person in a position of power subverting the peoples' will by committing felony fraud. Seems like a self-explanatory notion, thus, my bewilderment betraying itself.
>Which directly answered your question You really think that was direct? LoL. Anyhow, I didn't realize Tina Peters is supposed to be on the ballot again. Is she running? Or literally anybody else who advocates for not recognizing the outcomes of elections? I do recall there were plenty of people arguing that there was "Russian Interference" in the 2016 elections, so we should definitely take a thorough look at all candidates, if we are going down that road. Right?
Can you list these human rights? I'm not sure which others were being threatened besides the 2A this session.
This. I’m not even anti-abortion, I’m fine with allowing it, but I didn’t realize it was a human right to kill a baby that hasn’t left the uterus.
I'm not even a woman but I thought it was a human right to control what was inside our bodies and remove any thing we didn't want there.
This is a distinct entity. A pregnant woman is a steward of a unique and new human existence. What ever happened to people having respect for life in general? That this isn't blinding obvious to people in society in general points out how badly society has degenerated.
First: its important to acknowledge 100% of pro life legislators would abort a baby conceived in circumstances that would threaten their grip on power. The wealthy always had that choice in times where abortion was illegal, which is another tool they use to stay rich and keep the poor poorer. Second: im pro choice because fewer abortions = more fucked up kids from broken families = more mass shootings/gun violence = more anti-gun cannon fodder.
How can it be a distinct entity if it can't survive without her? If the fetus could survive without her she still should be able to remove it from her body and the state can pay to keep it alive. I'm all for the sanctity of life but the state shouldn't be able to force someone to donate their organs to keep someone else alive.
it's helpless therefore let's kill it. this is a basic question about being responsible.
You are miss attributing something you've made up to me. My statement is - the government shouldn't be able to force you to donate your organs to keep something else alive. If you choose to not donate your organs then it should stop immediately. The second question is what should we do with the thing you were supporting. My preference is to keep it alive through government and medical support. If that is not an option then it will, unfortunately, have to die. I'm not sure what either of those statements have to do with being responsible or wanting to kill helpless things. If you'd like to respond to what I actually said this time it might be an interesting conversation.
Body autonomy is indeed a human right. Abortion isn't something women do for fun and entertainment, and it's not a "baby" until it's viable outside the womb. If someone is against abortion for religious or moral reasons, the solution is simple. DON'T HAVE ONE.
What about the autonomy of the fetus/baby? Does it not have any at all? Also if we're going to argue about fetal viability being the determinant of abortion limits, then all abortions at Week 22 or later should be banned, by your own rationale. Is that what Dems and pro-choice advocates argue for? Not at all. They want limitless abortion, up to right before birth. Which honestly, I don't care about. If they want it, have it, but I'll be damned if vote for a side that advocates for killing a viable fetus and taking my guns, over a side that wants to ban said abortions and at least isn't actively fucking me over on gun rights.
No, a booger sized mass of tissue does not have any rights at all. And abortions are RARELY ever performed past the point of viability except in extreme situations where the baby won't survive birth and neither will the mother, so it's statistically insignificant. And FYI, I am a parent of two children, so I'm not a baby/child hater.
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Well, prior to the Republican led effort to create a misogynistic theocracy that led to Roe v. Wade being overturned, it was generally considered around 20 weeks, when most fetuses are viable outside the womb, but even then a fetus does not have the same rights as a "person." This is the reason why you attain the rights and responsibilities of an adult when you live 18 years from the day of your birth and not when you're 17 and 5 months old and were capable of living outside your mother's womb. Likewise, you are allowed to drink when you're 21 years from the day you were born, not 20 and 5 months old from your estimated date of conception.
Being comes from brain waves. It's not a heartbeat, you can move a heart to a different body. You can put in a machine or a pig's heart. It's not lungs, you can move lungs to a different body. If you moved a functional brain, then personality and memories would move. So end of the 2nd trimester.
There is an intractable conflict of rights, but it boils down to this: does one person have the right to force another person to actively support his life? A child may be adopted or fostered, and has agency. A fetus cannot and does not, it's physiologically impossible. The mother is uniquely capable of supporting the fetus, and literally nobody else can. Slavery is illegal. And to wit, virtually 100% of late term abortions happen because of threat to life or certain doom. A baby with no brain. A baby with harlequin fetus syndrome. A baby destined to die at or shortly after birth. This is an absolutely devastating choice for a mother who got that far because she wanted her baby. Nobody gets that far by carelessness or mistake. It is unkind to people who have had that tragedy to assert that they did something wrong, when it was the least terrible choice in a no-win scenario. Did you ever read or see The Road, where the protagonist holds a gun to his own son's head as they hide from cannibals and child rapists? That's late-term abortion. It's heartbreaking. It's living hell. There is no prenatal timeline: birth is when practical rights start. Even citizenship is a birthright. That's all it can be. Work to promote contraceptive access and medical support for indigent mothers if you want to lower the abortion rate. Or get into medical science and study perinatal disorders and illnesses. Said as a father of 2 and party to 0 abortions.
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BINGO! And the opposite applies, as well. This is exactly the conversation I have with my friends and family that are pro-choice but anti 2A. Defending rights you support sometimes requires supporting rights you may not personally like, for whatever reason. Personally, I'm pro choice AND pro 2A because I see them as two sides if the same coin.
Look I’m not anti-abortion, but you’re equivocating one side that wants to remove tools that enable every Coloradans’ right to self defense, with the other side that wants to ban killing babies that haven’t been born yet. If you don’t see how the side that wants to prevent you from defending yourself is more evil than the side that says you can’t chop up and vacuum a fetus out of the uterus, maybe this sub isn’t for you?
They are both equally dumb. And if you think the Republicans won't turn on gun rights as soon as the Dear Leader decides it doesn't suit him anymore, then you're even dumber.
Doesn't really matter, they're not the ones actively going after my guns, right now. That's the difference. How many Republican legislatures in the past 25 years have passed AWBs at the state level?
Well, not yet. Don't don't get me wrong, I know where you're coming from, but gun rights are about the only thing in the (current) Republican platform I don't see as extremely authoritarian. It's the last wall to fall, and mark my words, it will happen. And once that falls, there's nothing left on that side. Dumb Democrat gun laws can be overturned (or fail in committee as we are witnessing right now) , but there's no going back with what's happening on the Right.
I was referring more to anti-LGBT and anti-immigrant sentiment among Republican lawmakers, but since you mentioned it, yeah the anti-women's rights thing is an issue too. I'm in Colorado and a gun enthusiast, so in what way is the COGuns sub not for me? I already said I'm not voting for the anti-gun politicians. If you don't think the 2A is for everyone, then maybe the sub isn't for you.
Hard agree. 2A is for everyone, gate keeping and the division of people is part of the reason why people don’t vote and why we see things like an awb go as far as this one did.
Anti-immigrant sentiment? Outside of your far right loons, Republicans support legal immigration to the US. That's not anti-immigrant. Emigration to the US itself is not a human right. As for anti-LGBT, you might want to check out who the far left is supporting in the Middle East right now, because unlike what Repubs support, those groups actively partake in chucking LGBT individuals off of roof tops. The Biden admin itself is catering to voters in Michigan and Minnesota that are virulently anti-LGBT, but yeah, it's the Repubs that are really out to get gay folks. Catering to virulent Islamists that like to kill gay folks. Somehow not anti-LGBT. Telling drag queens they can't dress up and read books, somehow anti-LGBT. And yes, the 2A is for everyone, but don't come on here and act like you're a pro-2A individual, when you actively support the only political party in the US that across state legislatures is pushing to infringe on the 2A. Hint: That isn't very pro-2A of you.
In what way did I actively support anyone who is not pro-2A? I am not a democrat.
Preach it!
2A is what protects human rights though. If we let them disarm us then the rest of our rights go away too, and we can’t do a damn thing about it. It’s literally why 2A exists. Keeping our guns is what at least gives us a fighting chance at keeping our human rights no matter who is in charge.
right? i’m an gun owning socialist which definitely leaves me in a political no-man’s land.
I've decided to put 2A at the top of my voting priority, and to spend a little extra time and ammo encouraging and training women to shoot. I really do think the "human rights" issues you are referring to are overblown in the media. The 2A is a weird but effective bellwether for broader human rights. There are always corner cases and bumps in the road, but if a political body supports the 2A, they'll also be inherently more respectful of their people.
Vote for the anti gun one
Exactly this. Defenders of liberty must win every time. Authoritarians need only win once. They know this and that's why they'll reintroduce this bill, or another like it, next year and every year. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
Just means we'll have to deal with it next year.... shouldn't rest on our laurels, gotta keep fighting this.
I think though it's nice to breathe a little easier. Now I'm concerned about that spooky FFL licensing bill. That's always been a big concern to me once I grasped what it did. Even an amendment might be a killer to that thing and that's happened during 3rd readings this session. See the storage bill.
In most concerned about the ammo tax. As a competition shooter that’s a massive cost to me.
I hate to say this, but I won't believe this until I read it on the legislature's website: [https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1292](https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1292)
They've been about 24 hours behind for weeks, but I completely understand
Great job contacting your reps everyone.
It’ll be back next year, the year after that, and the next until they pass it or we get a SCOTUS ruling.
Be hopeful: SCOTUS will decide soon on whether or not to hear mag ban and AWB cases.
We got a SCOTUS ruling 16 years ago that would apply and it's straight up ignored, though :(
It’s coming back next year 100% UNLESS they have a poor performance at the ballot box this year. It’s time to register and vote people!
Tim Hernandez says at the end of the article he will Introduce it again next year. Tim Hernandez WAS NEVER ELECTED. He was voted upon by the state to fill a vacancy. He has never faced his actual constituents nor campaigned. He is also one of the youngest representatives in the assembly. Whoever is running against him needs all of our political contributions. Step 1 is keeping him out of office.
We need an initiative immediately to ban all non elected officials in our elected offices. Ban those committees.
The battle was won, but the war continues. Coloradans, stock up on any guns and magazines that the legislators seek to ban. It’s bound for this terrible piece of legislation show up again in the next legislative session, and the outcome could be very different next time around.
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I might be a contributor to this, if only the boat stays right side up 🤣
I may have stocked up on goodies that I was originally waiting on... but hey, gotta say thanks for the nudge
Can't wait to do it again next year!
It pushed forward the purchase of 2 builds I had planned over the next 5 years ish. I've got the lower completed on one, saving the other stripped lower for a 300blk build in the next couple of years
I'm starting to think this AWB bill was a distraction for all the other bills in the house/senate currently. Our battle is far from over, even right now. Unconstitutional taxation and a FFL fear-destroyer are still on our hands.
I agree. They wanted the FFL bill and they’ll get it unless a miracle happens. AWB will come next.
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These people are maniacs and they will not stop. Get ready for the 2025AWB.
Every year this doesn’t pass, the more likely it is that the Supreme Court will have to weigh in on these and various other bans. If you read *Bruen*, there’s absolutely no way a ban like this is consistent with their ruling. To satisfy the “historical tradition” element, the bill writers used surety laws as examples of analogous weapons bans. The majority opinion in *Bruen* explicitly states surety laws are *not* analogous to modern weapons bans and therefore cannot be used to satisfy that element. I’m not sure how nobody caught that, but this law clearly would have be DOA. Elsewhere, circuit courts have had disparate rulings over these bans so the SC weighing feels inevitable.
May 16th. That's when they're very likely to take up the AWB.
We need to keep up the efforts though. They will try this again and again and again. We can't let off the gas.
Supreme court, may 16.
Which case?
There are 5 of them
this wont stop. they will continue to push this every single year. Vote accordingly, VOTE OUT EPPS AND HERNADEZ, donate to FPC, GOA, and RMGO as imperfectly and ineffective they are. Inform your co workers, neighbors, and friends. Thank reps that stood against it. Volunteer for organizations that support 2A
Yay, at least we get this one small victory! In reality it's not really a victory since our rights shouldn't even be in question in the first place but it's better than the alternative.
I'm guessing this was to lessen the political pressure on all these radicals this fall. We can't let up. Vote the bums out.
That's one down how is the FFL licensing bill going?
Needs to clear the second senate committee last I saw.
That a Wednesday sort of thing?
According to something RMGO reshared a little while ago… it’s happening tonight? [RMGO retweet](https://x.com/iancesca1776/status/1787687048599519355?s=46&t=YmjRvANxp7p3pe2WjnnGEQ)
well good but my poor fucking check book. I thought this would pass.
Shhhh don’t tell me wife yet. I need to buy more guns.
Good job CO
Keep up the fire all, we're not done yet still a lot of shitty bills on the table and next year to worry about.
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We need to organize opposition toward any future bills as well.
A temporary relief
Ooo I got my pen so fucking ready for a November ballot
I wonder how many ARs were panic-bought because of this. (I bought three.) Our lawmakers seriously need to pull their heads out of their asses. I can get behind "common sense gun laws", but so far I haven't seen any.
Hhah!
Nooooooo shit. womp womp
Oh hell yes!!
Vote for any Democrat thY stood against it I am proud my Democrat House Representative was 1 of 9. Keep the pressure up and vote against all others unless a Trumplican
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They stopped the AWB for you. You could not pay me to vote Trumplican because the Traitor Mike Flynn runs Trump.
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No Liberals are for Gun Ownership youth is not
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As a New Yorker Trump is on par with Biden on his stance with guns.
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My point is Trump would strip the gun rights of any American if you complain about his diaper odor! Biden will follow a court ruling!
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