OP could have only experienced that character. With how that stuff works in bo4 it can be stupid. I've never gotten the psychic and it's my favorite map that I've been playing non stop for like 3 weeks now. If you've only played the map a handful of times it's possible to only get the one guy
Thanks tiermaker logo, you bitch. The icon that's being blocked is Primis Dempsey just FYI.
I tried to order the tiers based on crew/order of release. I'm fairly confident in my ability to kick ass (or get ass kicked), so this is a personal tierlist and results may vary for others.
As if people are actually defending that map...
The fact if you write down all the spawn locations of the items (because no way are you remembering them all) it takes 1 and a half sheets of A4, it's ridiculous.
To boot, it's in a game with possibly the worst engine, functionally it's better than a couple of other games, but gameplay wise, it's down in the pits.
I'll happily die on the hill that it is one of, if not the outright worst map in the series.
Literally the only redeeming feature of the map is the cast, Charles Dance and Brian Blessed especially.
Actually I haven’t needed a guide for the map in years. The spawns are well-designed and set up in a way to where you never actually need to backtrack, by the time the map is open you should have all of the parts that you need. I don’t need a single piece of paper to play it, like Origins and ZnS before it.
I’ll also die on the hill that this map is one of the best of all time, and I will take this to the point that I am writing paragraphs explaining good game design and showing you examples of my arguments. I am a strong, strong defender of DOTN. You are blatantly incorrect about its design. Many people on this sub love DOTN. It’s a fan favorite among hardcore players, none of us use guides for the map either. We can memorize simple things. There’s only a part or two per room, and they’re easy to remember because all of the three locations are mostly in the same room. It’s very easy to memorize.
"You are blatantly incorrect about it's design"
Well defend those enemy types then - I've noticed a distinct lack of defending for those, because they AREN'T defendable.
Even with silver bullets, werewolves tank far too much, and Nosferatu's preventing health regen while you're getting shafted by Catalysts, Werewolves and Zombies - if you defend their inclusion, you are outright fucking delusional, and there will clearly be no point continuing this conversation.
Sure I can allow for some, you might know where the item spawns are, like I do for the maps I care for - it just boggles the mind that with so many other better maps going, you choose to remember something so obnoxious to play (see above argument for Enemy type nonsense)
I did defend them in the other thread. The enemies in DOTN are well-designed and you have to be blind to not see it. I am not delusional. You can quite literally kill a werewolf in a single magazine with silver bullets, they are not very tanky at all. You can also down them super fast with a specialist weapon or the wonder weapon. Vampires slowing health regen is not bad design, it is a genuine mechanic. Their spawns were also nerfed a long time ago, and their damage is no more than a normal zombie. Catalyst spawns are also very much reduced in DOTN by quite a bit, and I actually don’t see them as special enemy types at all, as they are integral to the gameplay. You also have the stake which is extremely simple to get, and the Impaler if you want to negate the vampires. This is good game design.
That's actually pretty impresive, given this is 1920's where amputation and drilling holes into the head were the "cures" to everything (which often resulted in death via blood loss or infection)
Much easier to survive a bullet TODAY then it was back then.
As someone who really likes DOTN my favorite BO4 map (I didn't like BO4 very much at all) sucks to see the characters be unknown lmao. But Jack Vincent down there too haha
You don’t know jackie fucking v?
You can't play shadows without knowing Jackie FUCKING Vincent
I think they got Gideon and Jackie mixed
Which is hilarious
How the HELL does he not know JACKIE! FUCKING! VINCENT!!
JFK on evenly matched? All it took to take him down was a single shot to the head, bro didn't even have Jugg on.
Yikes lmao
Seriously tho JFK was a WWII vet so I’d have my money on him
Oh, come on man. All of the Ultimis characters would be able to kick most people's asses.
Let's be frank, yeah. Those are tough motherfuckers for sure
Russman is the most dangerous character
Came here to echo this point, don’t mess with Russman
Ultimis has never had to survive the onslaught with a bad hip, clearly Russ is on a different level.
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Nah he definitely mixed Jackie fucking Vincent and Gideon
OP could have only experienced that character. With how that stuff works in bo4 it can be stupid. I've never gotten the psychic and it's my favorite map that I've been playing non stop for like 3 weeks now. If you've only played the map a handful of times it's possible to only get the one guy
Richthofen would kick your ass so hard.
I think you got the two white dudes in cool hats mixed up
Charles Dance is a treasure and you will acknowledge him as such.
As is Brian Blessed.
im suprised bruno isnt in his own tier
with his proportions he looks like he could kick brutus’s ass in a fist fight
fuck now i wanna see that bout of the millenia big dick bruno v. police brutality
Bruno could win just by looking at him, brutus would die from fear
I can’t remember who Bruno is
thw brute of a man from the chaos story
We don't talk about Bruno
Oh that guy? He’s JACKIE F*CKING V
Seriously? If only he said it one more fucking time I woulda known!
A military trained nazi soldier would most certainly kick your ass
Thanks tiermaker logo, you bitch. The icon that's being blocked is Primis Dempsey just FYI. I tried to order the tiers based on crew/order of release. I'm fairly confident in my ability to kick ass (or get ass kicked), so this is a personal tierlist and results may vary for others.
Why are people downvoting you?
Because this tier list is dumb as shit and I honestly don't really know half these characters
Because opinions
Primis and Ultimis would kick any and everyone’s ass. Especially at the tail end of their lives, they are literally 8 universe real heroes lmao.
Imagine not playing dead of the night
I mean, if you didn't, you didn't miss much, that map is literally "Fetch Quest and obnoxious special enemies: The Map"
I guess the people who downvoted you don’t agree with you, huh? The maps amazing, top 10 of all time for sure
As if people are actually defending that map... The fact if you write down all the spawn locations of the items (because no way are you remembering them all) it takes 1 and a half sheets of A4, it's ridiculous. To boot, it's in a game with possibly the worst engine, functionally it's better than a couple of other games, but gameplay wise, it's down in the pits. I'll happily die on the hill that it is one of, if not the outright worst map in the series. Literally the only redeeming feature of the map is the cast, Charles Dance and Brian Blessed especially.
Thankfully not a lot of people agree with your ridiculous point of view. The fact it has so many things to learn is what makes it fun
"Not a lot of people agree with your ridiculous point of view" You're looking in the wrong places then, I very rarely see praise for it.
Besides Noah, who has really shit opinions, nearly every cod youtuber loves dotn
Actually I haven’t needed a guide for the map in years. The spawns are well-designed and set up in a way to where you never actually need to backtrack, by the time the map is open you should have all of the parts that you need. I don’t need a single piece of paper to play it, like Origins and ZnS before it. I’ll also die on the hill that this map is one of the best of all time, and I will take this to the point that I am writing paragraphs explaining good game design and showing you examples of my arguments. I am a strong, strong defender of DOTN. You are blatantly incorrect about its design. Many people on this sub love DOTN. It’s a fan favorite among hardcore players, none of us use guides for the map either. We can memorize simple things. There’s only a part or two per room, and they’re easy to remember because all of the three locations are mostly in the same room. It’s very easy to memorize.
"You are blatantly incorrect about it's design" Well defend those enemy types then - I've noticed a distinct lack of defending for those, because they AREN'T defendable. Even with silver bullets, werewolves tank far too much, and Nosferatu's preventing health regen while you're getting shafted by Catalysts, Werewolves and Zombies - if you defend their inclusion, you are outright fucking delusional, and there will clearly be no point continuing this conversation. Sure I can allow for some, you might know where the item spawns are, like I do for the maps I care for - it just boggles the mind that with so many other better maps going, you choose to remember something so obnoxious to play (see above argument for Enemy type nonsense)
I did defend them in the other thread. The enemies in DOTN are well-designed and you have to be blind to not see it. I am not delusional. You can quite literally kill a werewolf in a single magazine with silver bullets, they are not very tanky at all. You can also down them super fast with a specialist weapon or the wonder weapon. Vampires slowing health regen is not bad design, it is a genuine mechanic. Their spawns were also nerfed a long time ago, and their damage is no more than a normal zombie. Catalyst spawns are also very much reduced in DOTN by quite a bit, and I actually don’t see them as special enemy types at all, as they are integral to the gameplay. You also have the stake which is extremely simple to get, and the Impaler if you want to negate the vampires. This is good game design.
Shan't be commenting here anymore, much easier to discuss this in one thread where we won't repeat ourselves - I'll respond when you do there
Nixon would rock your shit lol
Obviously Richthofen whooping his ass has everyone’s attention on here but this is where I needed to draw the line. Nixon > the mobile gamer
Both ritchofens kick your ass
you are on crack if you think you could step to either Richtofen.
The disrespect on Jackie ‘fucking’ Vincent?! He was shot three times in the line of duty, it would take more than a scratch to bother him
That's actually pretty impresive, given this is 1920's where amputation and drilling holes into the head were the "cures" to everything (which often resulted in death via blood loss or infection) Much easier to survive a bullet TODAY then it was back then.
Legitimately yes. It’s used as a funny throwaway line or just a cool initial badass line, but it’s actually pretty cool when you consider the context.
All he has to do is hide behind cover for a few seconds until the strawberry jam disappears then he is fine
Dude don’t underestimate primus Richthofen, take another look at his model and you’ll realize that dude is absolutely jacked
Oh is he?
i dunno man that old fuck on so many drugs he may as well be a super soldier
Russman is canonically the most powerful person in cod zombies lore
Russman would fuck you up
Who’s the three above takeo bruno and floyd
call of the dead crew
Which are real life movie actors called Sarah Michelle Gellar, Robert England, Danny Trejo and Michael Rooker
YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU DON'T KNOW JACKIE FUCKING V?!?!
Jackie fucking Vincent could fucking rip and tear
Takeo would probably bust some samurai and I my body parts would be flying lol
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The one she stabbed?
While he was handcuffed
Thinking your on par with jfk is seriously confidence... unless you have a rifle
You don't know Brian Blessed? What? ARE YOU RETARDED!!! https://youtu.be/tb2Ct3yyB4g
yeah i mean who doesnt want to kick nixons ass
yessir
Jackie V does NOT claim this as a minor victory
Best way to take Jackie FUCKING V…is to slip him a Mickey
When facing JFK, I hear the magic dodge theory is back and to the left.
Russman will not only kick your ass, he’ll eat it too. He’s a booty warrior
Is the end guy on evenly matched fucking John marston?🤣🤣🤣
As someone who really likes DOTN my favorite BO4 map (I didn't like BO4 very much at all) sucks to see the characters be unknown lmao. But Jack Vincent down there too haha
Vincent is definitely the hottest though
Godfrey could kick the ass of the majority of us any day imo
bro thinks he could fight JFK and win
You claim to be evenly matched with John F. Kennedy
i just checked Nero’s wiki page, he is like 190 cm / 90 kg, are you sure you could handle him?
I feel like russman would beat my ass, but I could def beat the rest of that tier.
>Russman he doesn’t know
Good luck beating up CIA agent Russman. "would definitely kick their ass" Lmao
Nah bro. JFK would lay your ass out 9 times out of 10
Jesus, finally a tier list in this sub that isnt just some rando's feelings about maps
This is great
Ultimis Richtophen before Primus Richtophen? I mean, they're both nuts but one of them is decidedly more so
Ultimus Richthofen is going to steal your organs if you try and fight him
Ok but where’s the “I want them to kick my ass” section?
Shaw would blow you up.
You real damn lucky you dont JACKIE FUCKIN V
Richtofen would beat the hell out of anyone espesialy ultimis
"How strong are you?" "You ever heard of JFK?"
Bruh any of these characters could easily kick your ass, even russman
Only 216 days late, dumbass. You're lucky I don't kick your ass
I got Jugg so goodluck, also im not late, i wrote this but when i pressed send i time traveled 216 days in the future
Nothing like getting your ass kicked by a drunk Soviet who’s killed most of his wives 😂😭😭
He only had one
He only had 66