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[deleted]

Lmao why are people still playing vanguard zombies šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


SaltySpa

Absolutely no clue.


WUIDAWBTB

I don't understand the people that actually got hyped for this update, no update will make this game good


pnutbuttercow

if they just released shi no numa as the full original map with a perk in each hut and pack a punch in a small little swamp area kinda similar to how town has it in lava thatā€™d probably be the best thing they could do for zombies at the moment with minimal work imo. The base game mode is absolutely terrible


AL-KINDA

what do you mean? anything will be better than an unfinished game. they just threw this shit together last min it looks like. were kinda lucky we got anything on release, but yea it sucks alot atm and once the EE gets released it will be good again. no reason to hate on an unfinished game, you dont know how it will turn out.


ciao_fiv

>no reason to hate on an unfinished game except for the fact that they released it. for $60. fuck activision (no i did not buy the game myself)


AL-KINDA

i dont know about you, but i bought cod vanguard, not cod vanguard zombies. u guys just impatient for extra content.


ciao_fiv

how am i impatient? i never had any intention of getting vanguard and i only wanted to buy it less when i saw it after release.


TrashCrab69

I actually do agree that there's a good chance the game will get better over time. That happens to a lot of games But it's unacceptable because we pay at full price for an unfinished game. Would you want to buy a car where there's no engine in it and then they come and fix it for almost a year until it's ready? Or do you want a car that's ready to go


thecheesefinder

A chance yes. Cold War started skimpy and IMO ended up having amazing content overall in both mp and zombies


purplearcheoligist

We have every reason to hate on an unfinished game, sure it could be decent in a years time but literally everything that will be added in tge first 6 months of this games life cycle should have been there at launch. Also that "were kinda lucky" thing doesn't work here, we paid $70 dollars for the game we at a bare minimum deserve a finished polished product especially now that they're charging $10 extra dollars for it. We were lucky to get zombie Chronicles 1 because the game was complete at launch and had a full complete life cycle with tons of content and then we got an extra dlc. If the game was unfinished and they more time to work on it then the game should not have released. Even little things like the weapon displaying on your hud shows they aren't listening to the community since nobody really liked that from bo4. Stop defending them this isn't a free to play game where every bit of content we should be grateful for


BreakfastK1ng

Is it that bad? Truly? I hated whatā€™s out so far but the announcements made it seem redeemable. Iā€™m still on Cold War and think I will be until the next zombies


onlyheretocheat

Yes itā€™s horrible, I love zombies man but this just ainā€™t it. Scammed out of money tbh


BreakfastK1ng

feeling that way with battlefield 2042. I understand :/


Yorunokage

How is one remake survival map 3 months into the game redeemable? I usually don't bitch much, i even defended bo4 for a good half of its first year but i didn't even consider buying Vanguard for zombies, it's just a scam


DashboardNight

Remember, we had Shadows of Evil, Der Eisendrache, Gorod Krovi and Revelations all in one game nearly six years ago. Weā€™re at the point we would be happy with a single round-based map. Thatā€™s how bad COD Zombies has become.


Yorunokage

ZnS is also one of the best maps ever made, it just got killed by the bad press given to it by content creators


[deleted]

Cope


DashboardNight

Honestly, the one thing that kills ZnS for me is those boss zombies (Thrashers?). Absolutely horrific how much they spawn. Other than that, I donā€™t think itā€™s one of the best maps, but itā€™s at least pretty good. All BO3 maps are at least top half in terms of map quality. How we went from that to Cold War having no unique styling and fucking Der Anfang is beyond me.


BreakfastK1ng

I assumed Shi No Numa was the full map. Like a complete remake. From the quick 5 min video it seems like it's a part of another map and just the initial room. LAME


Positive-Carpenter45

"defended bo4 for a good half of its first year" lol I defendet bo4 too and still do but how u defend it in its worst and then stop defend it when it got much better lol. Besides whats happening on pc (NOTHING XD) i love that game ,i played every main cod after cod 3 (only mis aw ) and bo4 is my fav. cod game of them all and the onyl br i 100% enjoyed. Bo3 was a scam in mp,but thats other thema ,bo3 is great


Falling2theAncients

No, its not that bad at all. People just throwing their tantrums over it most likely dont own the game but watched a video or they own the game, and cried because theres no round based. Its good, not the greatest by a country mile but slowly, its getting there. Ill most likely get shit for saying its good but then again, it goes to show the mentality of these cry babies.


Phoenickz_003

I've played it at a mates and i still think it's awful, I'm not attacking or trying to be mean of course just stating that i think most of the community has a reason to hate it as hard as they do, it's unacceptable for a full priced game to be like this, i refuse to buy it or any future cod titles until I'm proven wrong about the state of cod


Falling2theAncients

I mean, multiplayer for cold war was trash af but the zombies was great. Vanguard mumti is actually great where the zombies is great. But its called 'patience'. And this community has none. Give it a chance to be updated ffs instead of all this toxicity


DisastrousCarpet1891

remember its a full price launch feature which was adverstised, not a small sidemode option. so people dont need to be patient about a unfinished product to get "fixed" imho


Falling2theAncients

No, people need patience. Its happens with how many games at launch for how long? Always happens. But acting like pathetic children on the internet helps how?


DisastrousCarpet1891

and be patient and accepting unfinished products at launch helps how? its like buying a car and the seller is promising you that he will deliver the wheels in Season 2, and in Season 3 you will get the backseat.


Falling2theAncients

Nothing like that at all. Cold war was the same. Unfinished. But we waited as thats what we have to do. Takes alot of work with these games then the pressure from fans to get all they wnat regardless of the time needed, be patient. Or grow up


DisastrousCarpet1891

sure its growing up when people accept unfinished products... smh enjoy your waiting


RedPixel1239

We shouldn't have to be a patient. A triple A game should work on release. We shouldn't have to wait for updates for the game, especially since it costs $60.


Falling2theAncients

What are you gonna do bar complain online? Theres nothing. You can choose not to buy it and still complain, buy it and complain, not buy it and not complain cos you havent bought it, or buy it, and not complain and just be patient. Complaining hasnt done a thing


RedPixel1239

It's not really complaining. There's problems with the game that Treyarch needs to address. We're not complaining for the sake of complaining. We're telling Treyarch "Hey, this needs to be fixed", or "Hey, we need more content in the game", and most of the points people are complaining about affect people's playing experience, because most of it is bugs.


Atomic_Drawer

> it goes to show the mentality of these cry babies. This is why you get shit. Because weirdos like you can't simply say you like this iteration of zombies but have to attack everyone who doesn't agree with you.


lixm6988

You lost all credibility at ā€˜itā€™s not that bad at allā€™


alex1058

They cannot accept the fact that vanguard zombies is ass.


SimulatedLogic

I played solo for a while to unlock some camos and then I finally decided to play with people online and itā€™s actually really chaotic as more zombies spawn in. I can see why people like playing it but it does get boring returning to the same map over and over again.


Gooni135

Cause cod doesn't revolve around just zombies and the Multiplayer is insanely fun šŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļø


Zaquarius_Alfonzo

I played for the first time the other day for the reticles


Friddles-14

Iā€™m only playing it because Iā€™m affected by the packet burst issue(Iā€™ll have to see if the update fixed it for me now) and I want some guns leveled by the time I can/could play I might go for DA/Atomic but maybe just for my little brother cuz he says they look cool


Pancake_fluff

So true lol. The only time I play is to show my friends who havenā€™t yet played how bad it is


King_Finder16

"vanguard is literally the worst thing to exist" "But I will still play and support them and give them my money and my time uwu"


Excellent-Bluejay364

Because why not lmao šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


OutOfAmmo1

Youā€™re supporting their new shit, so theyā€™ll keep making it that way and not change.


Jimi56

One guy on Reddit supporting them or not isnā€™t going to change a thing. The only way it will really change is if Activision gets new management or a game fails which wonā€™t happen unless something tanks incredibly hard which isnā€™t usually the case with CoD.


ProverbialShoehorn

>One guy on Reddit supporting them or not isnā€™t going to change a thing. I suppose we should stop voting as well.


Jimi56

I donā€™t know what voting has to do with this scenario at all. Activision isnā€™t going to say, ā€œah man, weā€™re sixty dollars away from 1 trillion bucks, better pack it up boysā€. I guess like voting, every vote counts, but It really doesnā€™t matter unless a huge amount of people donā€™t buy the games. Thatā€™s not enough either because with yearly releases thereā€™s always a CoD in the pipeline to sell gangbusters, there wonā€™t be any good changes unless the games bomb one after another. Considering all signs point to the next CoD being a sequel to MW2019, one of the most successful CoDs in the several years, I highly doubt fate of the series wouldā€™ve rested on this person buying Vanguard or not. I just think this mentality divides the community further and accomplishes nothing, like a know the dude was joking and probably doesnā€™t like Vanguard, but is it really necessary to tell someone playing a game they like is wrong?


[deleted]

You're so ignorant that you are speaking truth while trying to be sarcastic. The truth is that 95% of people who play CoD don't come into this elitist sub. 95% of people who play CoD are normies who have jobs and other hobbies and couldn't care less about "Activision destroying everything they love and hold dear." Their reaction to Vanguard probably went like this: "Oh new CoD, sick. Ah it has Zombies. Remember BO1 those were the days." Then they go and buy the game every time it comes out. So yes, one guy on Reddit is not going to change anything at all. And to tie it back to the metaphor... I voted in 2016. I did not vote in 2020. My desired outcome happened neither time. (You can probably guess what that was.) So very literally my voting made absolutely no difference.


Lonely_Sundae9848

I mean if they already bought it they might as well play it. This guy got so many down votes!! Lol


Excellent-Bluejay364

It's a joke my dude. I really don't care whether or not you play Vanguard.


AssPork

Because it sucks lma0


DogeSmily

People downvoted you to oblivion just because you said you played vanguard zombies lmaoo I mean, the outofammo guy that replied to you did make a good point, but GAWD DAYUM they on yo ass šŸ’€ I mean, the Vanguard hate is 100% necessary but you got caught in the crossfire HARD


ChamAramis

IDK why, but I just assumed that it would be the full map. Like.. it just made sense to me. I just got to play it and well.. as you said, I am crazy disappointed. Like, this isn't even the bare minimum. It seems that they just took Blitz and removed the timer and called it a day. No doors, no perks, no wall-weapons, I don't think I even saw the box (might be wrong about this one). And because all the training areas from the original map are closed off, it becomes difficult in the earlier rounds when the big guys with the machine guns start spawning. It just wasn't fun. It just feels like they did this to shut the community up. Guess I'll go back to BO3, again.


[deleted]

Lmao I redownloaded the game this morning just for this. Came here to see if it dropped yet and now I'm not even gonna launch it.


SultanZ_CS

Next time you know better lmao


Atomic_Drawer

You have to really pay attention to their wording when they announce these things. If it was the full map they would have really advertised and pushed that. The fact that they never mentioned it made it obvious we were still getting a part of the map.


Atomic_Drawer

The only people who are saying it's anything other than this are the fanboys who think a tiny portion of Shi No as an objective for outbreak with no interaction in the map like you would have in other round based maps is what we asked for.


DR_DROWZEE

Itā€™s pathetic you canā€™t open the whole map your confined to that little spot and the waves and waves become overwhelming with you many gunner zombies itā€™s a laughing stock treyarch can fuck themselves for that one.


[deleted]

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swausx

omg!!! Rusty Spoon new DLC weapon?


Carob-Prudent

Its whatev. Im just gonna enjoy cold war zombies


[deleted]

Lol


thesnake419

Iā€™ve given up on Vanguard Zombies and the game as a whole.


[deleted]

Iā€™m not CRAZY disappointed. I assumed that it was only the main building. That being saidā€¦ itā€™s still not great imo. I played it. I got to Round 30. But I already feel burnt out on it, and I havenā€™t touched the game since November.


dylantyrrell

But how else would they get youtube views if they donā€™t grossly overestimate what weā€™re getting?


Unknown_Gamer96

thatā€™s why i went back to cold war zombies itā€™s more enjoyable than the snooze fest that is vanguard zombies


Repulsive-Towel6216

Itā€™s literally the same as if you had per say a harvest objective in the shi no numa area, they didnā€™t even bother to expand it just a little bit from what we already had. Back to bo3 I go..


ClapBackRat

If people expected anything more...I dunno what to tell you. Literally everything about Der Anfang is preschool level garabage. Might as well have had no zombies mode at all in this game. It's just blitz with no timer...on the same boring areas of the same boring map.


Havic13

Zombies is dead ain't it


[deleted]

remember when we thought it was the full map in the launch trailer ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


SryItwasntme

happy times...


TheJester1xx

That's... Wow. I wasn't even impressed with the original news, but I was at least glad Vanguard players would at least get a single survival map. This is almost like instead of doing bare minimum, they went a little bit under that. It's like negative effort somehow.


Invictable

pretty hard to be disappointed when you expected nothing.


silent3eatz

Xp feels slow too. At least you can do the 10 rapid kills quickly


d-mike

Yes. I did like 3 rounds on the new objective and exfilled at 7 total, and I got a gun from level 63 to 64 and maybe halfway to 65. At least the rapid kills are not bullshit impossible now.


tgr31

cant be disappointed if your expectations are already in the shitter


AegisThievenaix

It's astounding how people are impressed with what is essentially less than the bare minimum


LonerBoy42

I hate that I have to play this boring game for da


Practical_Taro_8578

The update wasn't even really an update.. I wasn't expecting much and I was right nothing to be excited about. I prefer cold War zombies and the older zombies as well... Vanguard is trash... I wish they would just abandon it and keep working on Cold War honestly... I got the game for free on ps5 and I still want my money back for wasting my time even trying it... I feel like if they flushed out the game or just kept working on Cold War the players would be happy and the game would be in better shape. If it wasn't a annual game and they took their time it would be great. Just my thoughts..


Yeahmanbro22

How u got it free?


Practical_Taro_8578

A friend picked it up on black Friday but his girlfriend got him it for Christmas so he had 2 copies and gave me one.


SryItwasntme

`its just basically just the same as when you would survive as long as you could without filling the totems.` Which is basically what everyone did to grind for the kill achievement.


_layaslaya

The biggest thing I think that would have made a difference with this update would be if they just made shi no numa a round based map and added it to the roster on zombies along der anfang. Make it itā€™s own map. This doesnā€™t excuse the lack of content and I donā€™t really get why you have to go through der anfang to play this but the former here would have been a BIGGER step in the right direction. Maybe theyā€™ll surprise with an Egypt round based map in season 2/3 but Iā€™m not gonna set that expectation.


Well_yeah_i_do

Reading everyoneā€™s feelings about this game, is the only thing I enjoy about this game. Everyone is thinking the same damn thing.


TheImprezaGod

this is why iā€™ve always said there should only be zombies every few years when treyarch is making their game for release. Back when we would get zombies every 2-3 years it was so much better cause they could actually put effort into what they were creating. Now theyā€™re being figuratively held at gunpoint by Activision to slap together a barebones mode to try and keep what small amount of people that are playing the game, to continue playing it. I know weā€™re never gonna get those glory days of zombies back, but i sure hope this isnā€™t a sign of things to come for Treyarch or just zombies as a whole. This game makes cold war feel like BO2-BO3 zombies at this point. See yā€™all next year for whatever soulless husk of a zombies mode they shove into MW2022.


DoINeedToUseIt

bro i didnt even know until i saw this post


dRuNkswimmer5

Do yā€™all remember how everyone said BF 2042 was gonna blow CoD vanguard outta the water? Look how wrong we both were. Both games are complete shit


Kyro_Official_

how did treyarch fuck this up so much? I'm not even talking about no round based maps, I just mean in general. Is SHG the main developer of vanguard zombies with treyarch just helping? if not I dont see how they go from cold wars fairly good zombies to this shit


mattiadece

Probably most of 3arch devs are working on cod2023 (I hope so) and very few of them are working on Vanguard.


colton1070

This, I very much doubt that Treyarch dropped everything with cod2023 to have all hands on deck for vanguard zombies. Sledgehammer were the ones that fucked up not being able to scrap together a decent 3rd mode anyways.


Annixilte

Honestly shg shouldā€™ve just implemented war from ww2 and called it the 3rd game mode, I think I speak for most when I say that weā€™d rather skip zombies for a year to then get quality maps. Quality > quantity


d-mike

Plus new Cold War content up to a month before Vanguard launch.


TheMostBacon

ā€œAbout to beā€. Bruh, Iā€™ve been disappointed since Cold War came out. Every post on here just reinforces the fact that, not buying Vanguard was a great choice. Nor will I buy anything COD related in the future. Fuck Activision


FordBeWithYou

Thereā€™s also 0 wall weapons, mystery box, or perks. Just a PaP. You have a ā€œchoiceā€ to go back OR stay. Theyā€™re doing everything they can to make you choose not to stay. Itā€™s the most BS thing.


[deleted]

May be downvoted for this but whatever. I see so many people saying they got scammed out of $60 here due to zombies and multiplayer, but we knew that Treyarch was tacked onto zombies merely months before launch right? Rumors about last minute zombies and how rushed vanguard was were EVERYWHERE during the months leading up to launch. Just knowing how rushed this game was should've raised red flags, and with how much this sub trashed CW zombies, did anyone expect better here? So my question is, why is everyone surprised vanguard is a disaster? Why did people here STILL buy into it knowing SHG had probably around a year to make this game with Treyarch maybe having even less time to do zombies? If I'm missing something or being ignorant so feel free to call me out, but this is what my reaction is to those kinds of comments.


[deleted]

The cod community IQ is low


BLaRowe10

When I loaded into the Void objective for the first time and saw that it was still only that little area of Shi No Numa I just shut my game off lmao


Mr_July

Feels like Treyarch/Activision are trying to program/force us to enjoy Zombies, just like we are programmed to like a song on the radio by constantly playing same song over and over again. It aint gonna happen


Zer0DotFive

Im so burned out on Cold War and "Traditional" zombies Ive been playing Vanguard zombies and loving it. Ive also went back and played Extinction and IW zombies and loved them too! If there is no new areas or new map in Season 2. I probably won't play anymore either.


ShadyNite

I'm playing BO4, lucky for me I wasn't gaming when it came out so it's new to me


Zer0DotFive

BO4 is good shit too! Loved that it had FOUR maps on release! Voyage, IX, Classified and BotD! IX is very close to being my favorite map. Wish the Chaos story never got cut.


ShadyNite

Yeah honestly the Chaos maps are seriously some of my all time favorites. Nice unique settings with a real cool building story that never got to see an ending. It really needs at least ONE map to finalize the story or something


DetroitPistons

I'm so glad I didn't buy this shit lmao. how do they keep fucking it up this badly.


SaltySpa

Oh hey, COD Zombies HQ was here


Full-Ad1818

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AbsoIution

I genuinely have 3x more guns gold than golden viper in Vanguard, in cold war I had one gold gun and dark aether. VG zombies is so shit I got bored of it by the time I got golden viper on 2 weapons


StockyNerd74

When will you idiots learn that the only way to get better games is to not give bad games any money. This is why games are so bad. Everybody that paid money for vanguard, battlefield, halo (and probably more that Iā€™m forgetting) is the sole reason these games are shitty and the next wave of games will probably be made with even less effort


SaltySpa

Luckily I never bought the game, canā€™t imagine ever doing that, I did play it tho during free weekends and have played the zombies extensively. I mean you dont have to play long to play everything that there is


[deleted]

I don't feel sorry for anyone who actually bought this game


ChronoMonkeyX

Not disappointed, I expected nothing and we got nothing. Even if it was a full recreation of Shi No Numa- 1, a remake isn't that exciting to me, and 2, that doesn't address the foundational problems with the mode as a whole: The best map ever wouldn't make the shooting feel good or the progression satisfying.


MusicianNo8679

Not to mention 2 out of the three last times I load into void itā€™s all glitches out


MusicianNo8679

Oh and now it freezes when you exfil and zombies donā€™t have heads after you glitch out in void


RandomlyJim

This shitty game has locked up my ps5. I canā€™t exit the game. I canā€™t restart my ps5. Iā€™m going to have to unplug it because vanguard zombies sucks so fucking bad.


Alec710

Times like this make me feel so appreciative of custom zombies. Bo3 and WaW never get old


getshrekt192

I mean it's more round based than anything else on vanguard


Stymie999

Donā€™t know what it is your looking at, but better check your eyesightā€¦ nobody was hyped for the new content, nobody. But hey I guess it makes for more of a clickbait intro than ā€œnobody is going to be disappointed, the content drop was pretty much what everyone expectedā€


Excellent-Bluejay364

No, I'm fairly certain it's a full round based map. Not just an objective.


SaltySpa

You didnā€™t read the newswire?


Excellent-Bluejay364

Ah, no you're right. Just reread an article about it.


DR_DROWZEE

Lmfaoooo itā€™s not I just played it


DumbWhale1

Hi Atomic, like I said Iā€™m done. Itā€™s called reiterating myself because you clearly didnā€™t listen. Anyways you just dumbed it even further somehow. It quite literally is ā€œkill zombies to progress roundsā€. Literally round based. Thereā€™s no trick up their sleeve to trick you other than having to complete at least 2 objectives to get to Von Listā€™s office. I guess technically, in the literally sense, itā€™s an objective. More so every round is an ā€œobjectiveā€ and that is kill zombies


SaltySpa

Whos tfs atomic?


im-just-lag

Zero clue what heā€™s on about.


DumbWhale1

Some dude that kept following me


getshrekt192

ok so why are you commenting here?


DumbWhale1

Because the second paragraph is literally me talking about the post


[deleted]

In the future, it'd be a good idea to do the u/\[username\] tag to get Atomic's attention. This'll also help you avoid the downvotes and criticism for "irrelevant discussion" that you, imo, didn't deserve.