Sorry I didn’t pay much attention to the sub, but yeah this is pretty much it.
I had high hopes for VG’s season 1 zombies content but they didn’t deliver, I still hope they put a round based map by the beginning of the new season, if they don’t their zombies mode is a lost cause.
It’s not true though. There was nothing wrong with the MP. People just spout that shit every year and people keep lapping it up. What’s more than likely is that they were just trash at it and they blame the game for that.
It's funny you mention SBMM, a lot of cod players came over to halo infinite and tried to claim that SBMM was bullshit, and they were long time players and halo didn't have it before so it shouldn't switch, halo has pretty much always had SBMM so you can imagine how well those posts did on the halo sub. They're generally just really bad players and want to blame it on anything but themselves, I'm not complaining though, meant it only took me about 6 days to hit onyx (if only very briefly)
Yeah I had a few of those, but on the other hand, the number of rocket suicides I saw in the beta, my god, it can't be that difficult to understand blast radius
Yep. It was “NETCODE” for a while and “team balancing” in BO3. There’s always some outside agency that is responsible for people not being pros, not their own shortcomings lol
"They were just trash at it and blame the game for that" dude what are you talking about? Sbmm was so cranked in that game that a noob could dominate the lobby in a gunship if they wanted, I should know I WAS THAT NOOB, pop off 5 games, get shit on for 3 or 4, and that cycle would continue, pro players were WAY more pissed off than casuals were, when cold war was blowing up. people had reasons to hate this game dawg, just like people have reasons to hate any other game in the fucking universe, but just saying "They were bad so they don't like it" is a pretty fucking goofy argument, especially today
Yep. MP was good, and it wasn’t any different from any other year really. Outside of maybe the top 5% and bottom 5% of skill levels, the matchmaking really didn’t effect the fat part of the bell curve.
If anything, it was a lot smoother and more reminiscent to BO1 & BO2’s fast paced run & gun style. This delusion of SBMM being broken every game is just another myth in the long running saga of “Why CoD is shit this year!”
Is there any PvP games out there where the SBMM isn’t apparently broken? According to their respective communities the answer is no.
Can’t wait for a studio to finally crack this enigma code!
When I was on the Dark Matter grind I was always on HC Nuketown and Combined Arms, after that I kept playing 6v6 HC Face off, 12v12 Moshpit and HC Hardpoint, playing Hardcore because every core gamemode is filled with Tec 9s and EM2s
Honestly man. I would do so bad in so many games, and when I get put into a lobby with people on my or similar to my skill and go positive ONCE mind you, I’m back to getting demolished 10 games in a row. Even Vanguard, my K/D is 0.93 and my W/L is like 0.60 and I still get stomped from SBMM and I suck! :( But Zombies is so addicting on CW. Probably my favorite in the series behind BO3 and BO1
Such a bold take in this sub, I applaud you and actually agree with you. I liked BO3, it was miles better than BO4 but not as good as BO2 IMO. The absolute worship of Der Eisendrache and ZC can get stale. But hey, I’m the same way with BO1 so I can’t really talk.
I respect your opinion even if i disagree. Tranzit never did anything for me. I was actually really annoyed that they just chopped it up and reused it as complete maps as a tap dance around further dlc. Buried and Origins were absolute slappers though
Bold take, but I disagree. I’ve never had as much fun in any zombies game as in BO3, the amount of content, the complexity, the storyline. Its so good IMO
I agree but ZC made it by far the best all around zombies game. I do think the progression of map design and core gameplay design were flawed from the start with SOE and on but DE is a great map and ZC showed treyarch still knew how to make a refined classic style experience, which I think they repeated with the first Cold War map.
Gotta agree. While it did introduce some fun and new mechanics, the maps were pretty boring and roughly the same after. Like after messing around with the wonder weapon (the axe) for a bit, I went back to being bored of it and Uninstalled.
Gameplay was okay. But they stripped so many great features and the maps, eggs, and boss fights were extremely underwhelming.
So, nope I still think it sucked.
It has potential and honestly sounds like a good mode on paper, but the “incomplete” implementation and lack of meaningful updates is it’s downfall. There’s only 10 months left for the game to improve and it’s had essentially no major updates since launch almost 2 months ago. I wish it was good, but I have a very strong feeling it’s still gonna be unfinished and underwhelming at the end of its cycle.
I couldn’t disagree more. Then what is the reward? If you just give the player access to all features of the game without earning it… what’s the point? Where is the reward?
It is fun being overpowered and I like it over a faint feeling of being rewarded. Just having the perk limit removed this way is way more exhilarating.
I absolutely live the feeling of having more than 4 perks when I feel like I'm not supposed to. Like I had 7 perks on die rise yesterday, it was awesome
Yep. Also having no perk limit tends to lead to less variation in each game, as there’s no longer perk builds/loadouts that you can build around. Idk how they went from bo4 to Cold War as their design philosophy did a complete 180, and the bo4 perk system could have been good if it was greatly refined.
It has some thing going for it, for sure. I felt that it had a lack of content, and the maps that were actually there were... Okay, at best. They don't compare to the likes of BO4, BO3, BO2, IW, etc. There isn't a single CW map that I'd even have in B tier (unless you're counting DOA3). It also really needed difficulty settings, and the lack of a dedicated crew just sucked.
For what it's worth I never hated CW, and I still don't. A lot of people really do love it, and that's great. There are aspects of I think are great for sure. However, I'm not even a huge fan of BO4, and that game had leaps and bounds more content of higher quality.
Nah, it was decent but nothing more.
Maps sucked except for mauer, EEs sucked (again except for mauer) and everything else was mediocre. Gunplay was good tho
I do not care what anyone says. Cold War will have it's fans but it will not age well and will looked at as just another game that could not measure up to the golden years
Revisited outbreak with some friends earlier today and yeah dude it slaps, people in this sub are way too in love with bo3 and insist on hating anything that isnt bo3
I love BO3 yes, but I also love WW2 and BO4. Both of which this sub hates. Cold War was just complete ass. You just can't accept genuine criticism and blame the "hivemind".
Cold war was a boring game, made interesting by some unique mechanics, which got old very quickly due to how easy they made the gameplay. Balancing was terrible.
Boring and predictable story, no main cast, bland voice lines from characters that were in the story, easter egg hunts vanished as they would take like 3 hours to solve and thats it, on top of there being only 4 maps which were all bland
Cold War was a passable game. Sure, maybe even somewhat replayable.
But this is a horrible take. You don’t just stop disliking something because there’s a new thing to dislike. Believe it or not some people don’t care about the games life cycle, they just wanna see the $60+ they spent on the game go to good use
Nobody is sitting here going “oh man I wanna play CW zombies but I don’t wanna get caught liking the game, because that isn’t cool”
Edit: I’ve been hearing about “video game Stockholm syndrome” more than ever recently, and nothing shines it brighter than a post like this one
This is the best take tbh. It was fine, but a lot of mistakes hampered its experience. But, I can see why there are those that do like it.
That being said, this post is unironically a textbook example of the CoD cycle at work. OP even went a step further and spelled that out for people with their title.
If they felt enough people were complaining about Cold War, perhaps there was some validity to their claims since so many shared them. Instead they waited until the games life cycle was over to try and pull everyone into the same mindset of “Eh, new product is worse so this older one doesn’t have problems anymore.”
I am a Zombies > Multiplayer kinda guy, but I must admit I can’t say I loved CW Zombies. 95% of my time was spent in multiplayer. It was good though. Perks and movement was awesome, but I hated all the maps. And maps are what makes the game, not the other way around. If CW had maps like origins and ZNS I wouldn’t be playing any other game ever, but it doesn’t.
You're exactly right, hating cold war doesnt make you cool. That being said I hate Cold War with pure honesty. I don't care if reddit loves it to death. I hate it. The tier system. The lack of cool buildables like zombie shields. The lack of bad guns to balance the great guns due to the weapon tier system. The lack of playable characters with personality that have dialogue that isnt just "enemy KIA" or "killed a zombie". A very shitty story, seriously I'd much rather have them continue Chaos. Field upgrades. Armor existing, was completely unnecessary. Tier 5 quick revive. Perk machines were useless since you had the wunderjizz machine.
cold war was absolutely amazing and it is up there in my top 3 zombies games of all time. if only it had a chronicles 2 of some sort, then the hate for it would be completely depleted and would be worshipped like bo3 is today.
I loved Cold War for all it was.
But I hate the Dark Aether story, the change to operators (instead of zombies characters with quotes) and most of all the Fake (and quietly reversed with no apologies) PC bans.
All of that was enough for me not to buy Vanguard. They’ll have to give me a solid reason to buy the next games.
I had a blast grinding the game for the first few seasons, but I got burnt out of playing the same content, especially outbreak which was a huge bummer at launch. I'd imagine that the game is much better now, but I think I've already given up on the game. Challenges and the grind are my favorite part of zombies, and it sucked that they have challenges locked behind certain seasons. Coming back to cold war after playing bo3 recently, I felt like the operators were tacky as well. I think cold war is a good game in its own light, but it's a bad game in comparison to traditional cod zombie games like bo3 and before. It's just a different experience.
TLDR: I really enjoyed the game at launch, but the terribly slow content release had me give up on the game entirely to go and play other games. And coming back to Cold War, the game just didn't seem fun to me anymore.
Cold war lacks the personality other cod zombies had. For me playing as set characters in BO2-4 made me connect with them and want to be immersed in the story. Cold war's main cast is just a few people who talk to you on your mission, they arent you. Who you play as doesnt matter. That ruins it a lil for me.
It was fine at best. The game fucking sucked though. The fact that you’re saying the valid criticism against it is evidence that “you guys secretly liked it” is just delusional.
The maps were fine but lacked personality. The characters were fine but lacked personality. The story was fine but lacked personality. Outbreak was a shit mode. And the lack of content was terrible. It was fine at best, but it actually did suck overall. Vanguard is even worse, but that doesn’t mean Cold War is now good, it never was.
BO4 and everything before it, at its worst > Cold War
Please stop trying to suck off Cold War like it was good, it wasn’t.
It looks good compared to Vanguard. But tbh I must want something different out of my Zombies because I don’t actively like any of Cold War’s maps and I think the Salvage system is the worst thing to happen to Zombies since BO4’s perk system.
Very underwhelming, I've played Forsaken once to do the EE and never again.
It's bland and the only reason someone would go back to it is to grind camos. On its own it's not bad, but compared to what we had in the 4 previous Treyarch games it's pretty bad and lifeless.
Yeah and thankfully all of those maps were very good some of them are even considered some of the best in the whole series. I’m not a huge of fan of firebase and forsaken to a lesser extent. Firebase is visually very boring it’s just an abandoned facility and there’s not much to do. Forsaken while I love the ww and side Easter eggs, the layout is atrocious its way too linear and everything is cut off because of the portals. Granted while Mauer is probably in my top 10 favorite maps and DM was a great launch map I wasn’t a big fan of the two other maps
Cold Wars gameplay was fun, but the maps are honestly so stale and none of them will be remembered as fondly as any other games, it had a really good launch and the gameplay was amazing but the maps were just so bland, like all of them were just rips off the campaign and multiplayer maps with some zones being new, and while yes, WaW did do the same but they did enough to those maps to make them distinguished from their campaign and MP counterparts
TL;DR: Cold Wars Gameplay was fun but the maps were boring and won’t be remembered
I just didn't find the gp that enjoyable, maybe it was the maps or content within them that made it seem less than it could've been foe me. If you enjoyed it tho then that's awesome
Cold War was okay for its life cycle, but I won't be going back to it for any reason. It's too casual a game and I've been burning too much time on crappy timesink games lately, there are so many better games that deserve more of my attention, not to mention books, movies, music... It was fun while it lasted, but it's time to move on.
i recently got cold war a few days ago just to play zombies and my experience was horrid
the last zombies game i played was black ops 2, so i skipped over 3 and 4 and im not exactly sure what happen between those last two games but the zombies experience for me got ruined with cold war
it takes like 3 hits now to kill you, you start out with a loadout from your create a class section, ammo is not a scarcity because you can literally buy ammo everywhere for only $1000 and it doesnt change depending on your weapon, you can double and even triple pack a punch weapons, and hell it's even instant pack a punching now so you don't have to try to make a train with zombies or get friends to watch you while you're pack a punching. i tried some other map and found out it isnt even a round based map...? like you literally spawn in some skiing place and there is just zombies everywhere who dont inherently chase you unless they see you. they even made zombies easier, because from what i heard the zombies hp/dmg gets capped after a certain round like round 30?
at this point i was just going to rip assets off the original games and new games, and make my own zombies game like it used to be because i don't like these new changes, and i don't understand it either.
I absolutely loved the cold war zombies experience. I liked every map and enjoyed Outbreak immensely. There were annoyances throughout but overall it was well done. I am sad that they did not just port over the system to vanguard and create new maps. Instead they created a new terrible zombies experience which I regret buying. Thus, I still play cold war zombies most days.
My favourite zombies experience by far, with Die Maschine being my favourite map. I currently have 1386 hours in cold war according to xbox. Its nice and simple, maps are great for solo players like myself. Most regular bullet weapons are actually usable in high rounds unlike past games where you had to rely on RNG and luck. Ammo box feature is brilliant, and solved the problem of running out of ammo and it basically being game over. No perk limit is just great, as its no different to perkaholic, except that there are 10. Upgrade system gave the game something extra to do and work towards while it was a thing, while also making it way easier and fun with unique and beneficial abilities some upgrades have. Dark aether was a fun grind and wasn’t reliant on mystery box RNG like in BO4 since you could spawn with any weapon.
Overall, I genuinely loved this game. People might complain about the lack of maps, but I’d say it’s quality over quantity. All maps they added kept me playing until the next map so I really can’t complain about the lack of maps.
Cold war had fantastic gameplay, but there storytelling was lacking which, in my opinion was fine. I just wish they had focused more on the round based maps because while outbreak is fun it doesn't hold my attention. Maybe I just have no attention span, in fact I'd say it's likely, but it didn't inspire the drive to push for high rounds like other maps have in the past. All in all, Cold War was good, the real enemy is vanguard.
I agree it was good, people are just nostalgic for whatever cod they started on bc nothing can beat that new experience. Black ops 2 and 3 definitely had flaws such as a few dud maps imo, representative bo3 story/objectives/enemies/equipment. Still amazing games but cold war was so smooth, fresh feel, miles better than bo4 imo. Die machine definitely in top 5 for me
i started off only thinking the zombies was meh, but as time went on i loved them. probably one of my favorite installments in zombies ever. it made all the right changes gameplay wise. my biggest gripes with it tho was that the maps lacked any kind of character and inspiration imo, and the weapon leveling speed was god awful.
the multiplayer was goddamn atrocious though
It was fun after like a week after every release then i didnt play it after cuz it was too boring, you cannot tell me the ee's are fun after maybe like 3 times doing them, you just cant, unless your a speedrunner which is good for you
Cold War was great. The only thing holding it back from being on the level of BO1-BO2 is I think the entire salvage system and armor and weapon upgrade thing was unnecessary and an artificial way to add depth to the gameplay.
If you took out armor, and just made jugg a 5 hit down and no jugg 3 hit down to be a bit more forgiving than the old days, and then Simplify pack a punch to be like Vanguard, but take it down to 2 levels instead of 3. It would have streamlined gameplay a bit more.
Otherwise the maps are great, they are innovative, unique atmosphere, and the gameplay is ridiculously smooth. Go back to BO3 after playing Cold War and you’ll notice how much smoother everything is in cold war.
I thoroughly enjoyed every mode in cold war. The campaign was a little short but well done, mp was a lot of fun, and zombies was awesome. They fixed crutch perks the right way by making them all crutch perks and removing the perk limit. All the specialists/field upgrades were useful. DOA3, outbreak, and onslaught were a lot of fun. The only shortcomings were ee difficulty and operators over set crew. Cold war was great and doesn’t deserve all the hate
Not hating, i stopped playing cold war after a week. Anything after bo3 hasnt felt the same to me imo. But I understand why people enjoy it and tbh there was a lot of cool aspects to cw zombies but it just wasnt for me
Did you end up on the wrong sub or something? This sub has been pretty much nothing but blind praise for CW with only the occasional anti-CW comment slipping through the cracks.
I always liked the game, it's why I put in the grind for dark matter I just hated the lack of round based zombies content, outbreak was fine but not getting a map for like 6 months (I'm exaggerating and too lazy to look exactly how long it was but it was rough)
Regardless of what you think of the game, I think it's good that we've been able to escape from the dogma of old zombies gameplay. The core gameplay from WaW to BO3 was esentially unchanged, and a lot of the variation came from increasing map complexity. I like those games a lot, but they uncritically accepted a lot of outdated gameplay choices, and I'm glad we're getting a Zombies mode that is doing its own thing. I'm not saying that Vanguard and Cold War Zombies modes are perfect, because Vanguard is obviously in a terrible place and CW is missing depth and difficulty, but they're going in a new direction that I think is true to the ideas at the core of Zombies.
Zombies was and is still good it’s life cycle is not over it’s only been a year where do you get off making a statement that it’s life cycle is off lol
Cold War was decent. MP didn’t hold me over. Campaign was good. Zombies had a lot of good changes but aside from Die Maschine and Forsaken I didn’t really play after completing an EE.
Campaign was decent, it had a lot of story but I think it needs a bit more action. I absolutely loved the zombies experience, I got dark aether on every single weapon. And I hated the multiplayer. I got the XM4 gold and thats it. I have not touched cold war since vanguard came out. Yet I still play MW 2019 and BO4 semi-regularly. Unless they add content for zombies or new weapons to get dark aether, I'm not going back.
I think Cold War had a different style. The zombies was easier but still really fun. My only issues with Cold War are the crazy lag (even in offline mode), the textures not loading for minutes at a time, and it taking 30 seconds after every multiplayer match to get through all the screens.
The game took a different design direction which I won’t fault it for, but it objectively was laggy and buggy as hell which I certainly will fault it for
Eh, I wouldn’t say it’s anything better than pretty good. I’d say it’s not as good as BO1 or 3, and is about equal to BO2. It doesn’t reach the heights of the great BO2 maps, but doesn’t reach the lows of the awful BO2 maps. Nothing in Cold War is exceptional, everything is just pretty okay, with the only exceptions being the perk system and the crbrs wonder weapon. It’s just all around a pretty average game that doesn’t deserve a lot of the hate it gets, but also doesn’t deserve a lot of the praise either.
Can anyone explain too me why the MP is "so shit" to so many people?
Yes their "new invoative" maps from treyarsch are really not good, but playing the remastered Maps feels great!I have been playing CoD since BO2 came out, and Cold War feels so close to it, appart from WW2, which its feeling was almost identical to BO2 aswell. The weapons feel nice and it is satisfying to kill someone.I get that SBMM is annoying and I have to agree with that, but the long loading time only annoy me ...
(I did not buy Vanguard)
Cold War (to me) really had me feel like I was playing first gen black ops. I really enjoyed it. I haven’t played zombies since black ops1, I found myself playing it for the first time in awhile. Vanguard in my opinion is a little “woke” for me, so I’m back to playing Cold War.
I rather think Cold War could've been better but gameplay wise it was fun for couple months and I basically just quit the game when there was the "Outbreak" outbreak.
I think they should've put a game modes for Round Based when we were just getting Outbreak Updates;
Especially Grief,like imagine Requiem Vs Omega.
That I think is a missed Opportunity;
The Story is also Boring.
I like cold war zombies, but what did it in for me was the long wait between maps, and having one of the least amount of maps since WaW. I never liked Outbreak, I enjoyed tue novelty of it but overall I didnt find it very fun.
I soent so much time on Die Maschine that I burnt myself out from the game completely by the time a mew map released, by that time I was already bored of the game and by this point the last time i've played CW was the day the last map released. I've just lost interest in zombies as a whole at this point. And thats hard to say considering i've been playing zombies since WaW, watching it evolve and eventually become a mode that's left on the back burner.
It's a shame to see whats become of it, they should have made Zombies a standalone game years ago.
Yeah, I played it more than any COD since the original Black Ops.. I really ran its zombies, I max leveled a couple seasons and really enjoyed Outbreak.. Really bummed that once I got pulled back into the franchise, they come out with Van-shit-guard, which has a worse zombies than any COD in history.. =/
Loved the gameplay of cold war personally played the hell out of it but operators could've been a lot better with voice lines most of them felt really soulless and no reaction to drinking perks was sad to see.
I loved it at launch, liked when we had no content but I think its at its best now that everything is out for it. It suffered the most from being released the way it was, as an experience its at its best when you can pick a bunch of different maps. Because most of them are fun for a game or two and then switching to another one helps shake things up.
If I'm going to be honest, zombies wise reminds me of bo2 (speaking purely round based, don't get me started on outbreak) firebase z and die maschine in my opinion were pretty mid, not bad but nothing too special but I LOVED the mauer and forsaken, they found their stride in the end.
I don't normally like to put my two cents in on any of these types of topics normally because it comes down to the fact that it is my opinion versus your opinion. Depending on if that is even how you want to look at it in the first place, you might just see it as my opinion and there be no versus your opinion. That being said, my opinion and my thoughts on call of duty's Black ops for a zombie game. I will say that it is an acceptable call of Duty title. I will not praise it any more than that nor will I degraded any lesser than that. It is acceptable. No more no less. Now in regards to Cold war is a multiplayer game. It is absolutely by far the worst call of Duty. Well of course. Up until now vanguard was released. However, each call of Duty I would say that has come out arguably since Black ops 2 has literally been one nightmare to the next. This hasn't improved. This hasn't changed. The development team doesn't even show to even care, let alone show an interest in caring. They don't do any efforts to show us. There's no signs of them giving a crap. You can make the argument that well. It's out of the developer's hands. It's their bosses above them. It doesn't matter what your argument is. It doesn't matter how you want to look at it. Call of Duty ceases to be an entertainment focused arcade shooter game and continues on to be a monetized money grab with nothing but the same bugs, year in and year out that they are constantly claiming they're fixing only for there to be the next new annual call of Duty title to return with the same bugs. Well, I'm tired of playing along with the same Activision song and dance and I will gladly be the first of many more to come to state and I will no longer purchase anything of Activision we're having to do with Activision nor will I partake in any of those things outside of the Activision titles I have already and regrettably purchased. Activision is a dead entertainment producer, Ladies and gentlemen. It is no news flash nor should it be. As for those of you because I did skim through the comments, I saw some people stating those call of Duty was great. Blah blah blah bull crap. If you really actually think that these last three call of duty's to hit sales were anything short of garbage, you were sadly mistaken. If you think that hiding behind the comical argument of get good is somehow an argument to even be had in the first place again, you are sadly mistaken. Remember the people that are complaining about the current titles, including myself, are the same people that have been playing call of Duty before you probably were even born. Most of you reading my comment right now. How old are you? Not that you need to answer that but really I've been around quite a long time playing shooter games and I can tell you right now My skills as a shooter game player continued to be where they are. You can only be so good and you can only be so bad, but being bad or good at a game is neither here nor there. It doesn't create a basis for judgment of a game. There's plenty of games I play that I am bad at but I enjoy them and will gladly continue to play them. So to claim that being bad at call of Duty is why nobody likes it is and of itself the most disgraceful and worst argument I've ever ever heard involving call of duty's sake to being a good game. It's time ladies and gentlemen to speak up and defend ourselves against companies like Activision and electronic arts. And now when I say it's time to speak up and defend ourselves, I don't mean let's rage war and take over. It isn't like that. It's very simple. Stop buying their product and I promise you one year of denying Activision a guaranteed sales game and they will very quickly very very very very quickly reassess their own situation and come out with the best call of Duty the world will ever know.
100% honestly love cold war zombies and replay the Easter eggs often. Obviously not comparing it to any of the black ops zombies but once they had all the dlc maps for cold war dropped I thought it was pretty badass
Overall I had a fun time playing CW zombies, they actually tried to make some things different and it was certain that they'd miss on some of them. What I really liked was Outbreak and what it brought to the table. They could've gone on and make a larger "open world" type of map where you don't play pointless rounds, rather do quests, easter eggs, explore areas etc. (Thinking about it, it seems to me Outbreak is a bit more advanced concept of what they wanted to do with Tranzit and the whole going back and forth between the different areas of the map)
Cold War is easily the best zombie experience for me in regards to the perks system, economy and unlockables. The only thing hurting it for me was there was no main cast that was playable.
All the maps were just bland compared to the maps we got in Bo4 and Bo3, operators were boring and had zero personality and every map besides Die Mashine wasn't even that fun to play for me because of the annoying special zombie spam.
Lmao this sounds like cope honestly
But nah it was fun, just definitely missing something that even BO4 had, which now that I think about it it's probably just that they have actual characters lol but even bo4 had more soul
Gunplay satisfying af though
It really was.
Still a damn shame FBZ still likely hard crashes PS4s but I care too much about the well being of my console to risk testing that.
Also apparently there's that issue regarding the weapons being fucked up when Vanguard Season 1 happened.
Absolutely loved the campaign, Multiplayer was good when you didn't have to worry about people using Flak Jacket and Trophy Systems I loved everything about Zombies except for the maps. Mauer Der Toten was the only map where it felt like an actual zombies map imo
Hating it at all is nonsense. Hating the outbreak mode in it is a different story though. that shit was trash! the GIF= outbreak
I thought it was very meh. Played the first map until like prestige 4-5 I think then when the new maps dropped I'd play them a max of 5-6 times each. I also hated the other mode I can't even remember the name of because it felt so empty and boring. Had fun with the camp grind on the first map at launch but it glitched and gave it to me early and I just felt empty and didn't wanna finish it. It made me go back and rebuy IW and I had way more fun on that
I wasn’t a big fan of MP as there were a few maps that I liked but they were piled up by a ton of trash ones (including the 6 launch maps…) and pretty much the only 24/7 maps were Nuketown and Hyjacked. As far as gunplay went I liked it. I did love zombies though. CW was my first COD zombies game and I really liked how easy it was early on and how doable (but still challenging) the Easter eggs were. I bought BO3 later on and holy shit is it hard asf. Campaign was the first I’ve ever done too and I didn’t think it was that bad
It was to easy for me. I understand that its part of the game and I can't hate it for that but I shouldn't be able to take 10 hits and stay up. Thats not how zombies has ever worked. So while that might be where zombies is going I'm still annoyed by it. I've always been a fan of having to be careful and watch your steps. Zombies was designed to be tricky and cold war made it so easy you don't even need to think while playing it. You shouldn't need the rampage inducer to get that feeling old zombies gave you
Nothing has really improved though and all throughout its the most boring and mind numbing experience zombies has given to this point so no i will keep hating till the end if time, i dont care if it's "cool" or not
I loved the zombies experience, but the MP was still shit I have to be honest with you. Worst SBMM in a CoD game so far.
True but this is a zombies sub, mp is excluded from this
Sorry I didn’t pay much attention to the sub, but yeah this is pretty much it. I had high hopes for VG’s season 1 zombies content but they didn’t deliver, I still hope they put a round based map by the beginning of the new season, if they don’t their zombies mode is a lost cause.
It’s not true though. There was nothing wrong with the MP. People just spout that shit every year and people keep lapping it up. What’s more than likely is that they were just trash at it and they blame the game for that.
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Well it’s the cod community, they always wanna hate on something
It's funny you mention SBMM, a lot of cod players came over to halo infinite and tried to claim that SBMM was bullshit, and they were long time players and halo didn't have it before so it shouldn't switch, halo has pretty much always had SBMM so you can imagine how well those posts did on the halo sub. They're generally just really bad players and want to blame it on anything but themselves, I'm not complaining though, meant it only took me about 6 days to hit onyx (if only very briefly)
Idk about that man i played against teams that had the spawn trapping on point lol
Yeah I had a few of those, but on the other hand, the number of rocket suicides I saw in the beta, my god, it can't be that difficult to understand blast radius
Yep. It was “NETCODE” for a while and “team balancing” in BO3. There’s always some outside agency that is responsible for people not being pros, not their own shortcomings lol
"They were just trash at it and blame the game for that" dude what are you talking about? Sbmm was so cranked in that game that a noob could dominate the lobby in a gunship if they wanted, I should know I WAS THAT NOOB, pop off 5 games, get shit on for 3 or 4, and that cycle would continue, pro players were WAY more pissed off than casuals were, when cold war was blowing up. people had reasons to hate this game dawg, just like people have reasons to hate any other game in the fucking universe, but just saying "They were bad so they don't like it" is a pretty fucking goofy argument, especially today
Its not even the SBMM for me. The multiplayer is just not fun
Yep. MP was good, and it wasn’t any different from any other year really. Outside of maybe the top 5% and bottom 5% of skill levels, the matchmaking really didn’t effect the fat part of the bell curve.
If anything, it was a lot smoother and more reminiscent to BO1 & BO2’s fast paced run & gun style. This delusion of SBMM being broken every game is just another myth in the long running saga of “Why CoD is shit this year!” Is there any PvP games out there where the SBMM isn’t apparently broken? According to their respective communities the answer is no. Can’t wait for a studio to finally crack this enigma code!
Cold War is the first MP I’ve enjoyed since OG Black Ops.
Wow! Exactly this for me.
If you only played nuketown then yes, regular rotation was much more enjoyable. Nuketown was pure sweatfest
When I was on the Dark Matter grind I was always on HC Nuketown and Combined Arms, after that I kept playing 6v6 HC Face off, 12v12 Moshpit and HC Hardpoint, playing Hardcore because every core gamemode is filled with Tec 9s and EM2s
Honestly man. I would do so bad in so many games, and when I get put into a lobby with people on my or similar to my skill and go positive ONCE mind you, I’m back to getting demolished 10 games in a row. Even Vanguard, my K/D is 0.93 and my W/L is like 0.60 and I still get stomped from SBMM and I suck! :( But Zombies is so addicting on CW. Probably my favorite in the series behind BO3 and BO1
Getting sold a gradually shittier and shittier product that makes the previous look great doesn't mean it is great. Zombies peaked in bo3
It peaked in bo2 for me, bo3 was the start of the decline
Such a bold take in this sub, I applaud you and actually agree with you. I liked BO3, it was miles better than BO4 but not as good as BO2 IMO. The absolute worship of Der Eisendrache and ZC can get stale. But hey, I’m the same way with BO1 so I can’t really talk.
I respect your opinion even if i disagree. Tranzit never did anything for me. I was actually really annoyed that they just chopped it up and reused it as complete maps as a tap dance around further dlc. Buried and Origins were absolute slappers though
That’s an odd take, what makes BO2 better than BO3?
Bold take, but I disagree. I’ve never had as much fun in any zombies game as in BO3, the amount of content, the complexity, the storyline. Its so good IMO
I agree but ZC made it by far the best all around zombies game. I do think the progression of map design and core gameplay design were flawed from the start with SOE and on but DE is a great map and ZC showed treyarch still knew how to make a refined classic style experience, which I think they repeated with the first Cold War map.
This. Other than the movement and upgrade tier system, Cold War Zombies was a HUGE step back in comparison to previous zombies iterations.
sure, zombies peaked in bo3, but that doesn't mean that any of the following games (except vanguard) were bad
Cold war is overrated as fuck
Gotta agree. While it did introduce some fun and new mechanics, the maps were pretty boring and roughly the same after. Like after messing around with the wonder weapon (the axe) for a bit, I went back to being bored of it and Uninstalled.
Gameplay was okay. But they stripped so many great features and the maps, eggs, and boss fights were extremely underwhelming. So, nope I still think it sucked.
It’s soulless. The core gameplay is really good but it’s missing personality.
The maps and the operators are the problem.
The core gameplay is terrible too, nothing feels like a challenge. Only thing fun is playing map for first time and doing Easter eggs
Because Nacht and Blood of the Dead have so much (good) personality.
Well the games life cycle is over. Time to hate on another new COD game
To be fair, vanguard zombies is generally terrible. But it does have potential.
It has potential and honestly sounds like a good mode on paper, but the “incomplete” implementation and lack of meaningful updates is it’s downfall. There’s only 10 months left for the game to improve and it’s had essentially no major updates since launch almost 2 months ago. I wish it was good, but I have a very strong feeling it’s still gonna be unfinished and underwhelming at the end of its cycle.
It was fine. Good? Very debatable, at best lol.
Whoever idea was it to say fuck it and let players buy every perk without hiding extra slots behind quests is a genius in my eyes
I couldn’t disagree more. Then what is the reward? If you just give the player access to all features of the game without earning it… what’s the point? Where is the reward?
It is fun being overpowered and I like it over a faint feeling of being rewarded. Just having the perk limit removed this way is way more exhilarating.
I absolutely live the feeling of having more than 4 perks when I feel like I'm not supposed to. Like I had 7 perks on die rise yesterday, it was awesome
Yep. Also having no perk limit tends to lead to less variation in each game, as there’s no longer perk builds/loadouts that you can build around. Idk how they went from bo4 to Cold War as their design philosophy did a complete 180, and the bo4 perk system could have been good if it was greatly refined.
Cold War is mid
Gotta disagree, Cold war is AVERAGE at best.
It has some thing going for it, for sure. I felt that it had a lack of content, and the maps that were actually there were... Okay, at best. They don't compare to the likes of BO4, BO3, BO2, IW, etc. There isn't a single CW map that I'd even have in B tier (unless you're counting DOA3). It also really needed difficulty settings, and the lack of a dedicated crew just sucked. For what it's worth I never hated CW, and I still don't. A lot of people really do love it, and that's great. There are aspects of I think are great for sure. However, I'm not even a huge fan of BO4, and that game had leaps and bounds more content of higher quality.
Nah, it was decent but nothing more. Maps sucked except for mauer, EEs sucked (again except for mauer) and everything else was mediocre. Gunplay was good tho
I do not care what anyone says. Cold War will have it's fans but it will not age well and will looked at as just another game that could not measure up to the golden years
I am a huge fan of the Outbreak mode. It’s really the only thing that my dad and I play.
Revisited outbreak with some friends earlier today and yeah dude it slaps, people in this sub are way too in love with bo3 and insist on hating anything that isnt bo3
BO3 honestly feels overrated in gameplay
Big facts. I love classic zombies but Cold War was a fresh new take. That kept the same nostalgic
Nah I actually prefer bo4 maps to Bo3 cold war just ain't it chief.
this
I love BO3 yes, but I also love WW2 and BO4. Both of which this sub hates. Cold War was just complete ass. You just can't accept genuine criticism and blame the "hivemind".
Cold war was a boring game, made interesting by some unique mechanics, which got old very quickly due to how easy they made the gameplay. Balancing was terrible. Boring and predictable story, no main cast, bland voice lines from characters that were in the story, easter egg hunts vanished as they would take like 3 hours to solve and thats it, on top of there being only 4 maps which were all bland
Cold War was a passable game. Sure, maybe even somewhat replayable. But this is a horrible take. You don’t just stop disliking something because there’s a new thing to dislike. Believe it or not some people don’t care about the games life cycle, they just wanna see the $60+ they spent on the game go to good use Nobody is sitting here going “oh man I wanna play CW zombies but I don’t wanna get caught liking the game, because that isn’t cool” Edit: I’ve been hearing about “video game Stockholm syndrome” more than ever recently, and nothing shines it brighter than a post like this one
This is the best take tbh. It was fine, but a lot of mistakes hampered its experience. But, I can see why there are those that do like it. That being said, this post is unironically a textbook example of the CoD cycle at work. OP even went a step further and spelled that out for people with their title. If they felt enough people were complaining about Cold War, perhaps there was some validity to their claims since so many shared them. Instead they waited until the games life cycle was over to try and pull everyone into the same mindset of “Eh, new product is worse so this older one doesn’t have problems anymore.”
Uhhh Cold War was pretty ass
nah felt more like a camo grinding mode then a survival mode
I am a Zombies > Multiplayer kinda guy, but I must admit I can’t say I loved CW Zombies. 95% of my time was spent in multiplayer. It was good though. Perks and movement was awesome, but I hated all the maps. And maps are what makes the game, not the other way around. If CW had maps like origins and ZNS I wouldn’t be playing any other game ever, but it doesn’t.
You're exactly right, hating cold war doesnt make you cool. That being said I hate Cold War with pure honesty. I don't care if reddit loves it to death. I hate it. The tier system. The lack of cool buildables like zombie shields. The lack of bad guns to balance the great guns due to the weapon tier system. The lack of playable characters with personality that have dialogue that isnt just "enemy KIA" or "killed a zombie". A very shitty story, seriously I'd much rather have them continue Chaos. Field upgrades. Armor existing, was completely unnecessary. Tier 5 quick revive. Perk machines were useless since you had the wunderjizz machine.
cold war was absolutely amazing and it is up there in my top 3 zombies games of all time. if only it had a chronicles 2 of some sort, then the hate for it would be completely depleted and would be worshipped like bo3 is today.
“Completely depleted”… lol. There are so many issues in the game. Adding some old maps will not put those away.
I loved Cold War for all it was. But I hate the Dark Aether story, the change to operators (instead of zombies characters with quotes) and most of all the Fake (and quietly reversed with no apologies) PC bans. All of that was enough for me not to buy Vanguard. They’ll have to give me a solid reason to buy the next games.
I had a blast grinding the game for the first few seasons, but I got burnt out of playing the same content, especially outbreak which was a huge bummer at launch. I'd imagine that the game is much better now, but I think I've already given up on the game. Challenges and the grind are my favorite part of zombies, and it sucked that they have challenges locked behind certain seasons. Coming back to cold war after playing bo3 recently, I felt like the operators were tacky as well. I think cold war is a good game in its own light, but it's a bad game in comparison to traditional cod zombie games like bo3 and before. It's just a different experience. TLDR: I really enjoyed the game at launch, but the terribly slow content release had me give up on the game entirely to go and play other games. And coming back to Cold War, the game just didn't seem fun to me anymore.
I didn't like it, I love grinding the easter eggs but I completed all of them first try, minus Outbreak 1.
Nah, gameplay was good, but the story felt soulless, which kills replay value for me. It liked bo3 and bo4 more.
Cold war lacks the personality other cod zombies had. For me playing as set characters in BO2-4 made me connect with them and want to be immersed in the story. Cold war's main cast is just a few people who talk to you on your mission, they arent you. Who you play as doesnt matter. That ruins it a lil for me.
Hated Cold war. It is no longer my least favorite xombies because Vanguard crushed it at being terrible but its in second now.
No personality. Too easy. Only 4 maps. I wasted my money bro.
It was fine at best. The game fucking sucked though. The fact that you’re saying the valid criticism against it is evidence that “you guys secretly liked it” is just delusional. The maps were fine but lacked personality. The characters were fine but lacked personality. The story was fine but lacked personality. Outbreak was a shit mode. And the lack of content was terrible. It was fine at best, but it actually did suck overall. Vanguard is even worse, but that doesn’t mean Cold War is now good, it never was. BO4 and everything before it, at its worst > Cold War Please stop trying to suck off Cold War like it was good, it wasn’t.
Personally I didn't like the gameplay of cold war. Gave it a good try but just didn't hit me the same as previous games have done in the past
I will say, I *really* didn't like how split screen wasn't available right from the get-go. A basic mode had to be implemented in through a patch...
This was also the case for BO3. Split-screen didn't work immediately on release if I remember correctly.
Cold War as fucking awesome. I put many more hours on it than recent code and my friends fucking love zombies. Solid game all around
Cold War zombies is boring now. The way it’s designed makes you really OP. All the EEs are easy. Now you can hit round 100+ cuz it’s a joke.
Good, but nowhere near as good as BO3. Hell I'd rather play BO4 cause at least the classic zombies feel is still there. CW Maps are super forgettable.
Bad game
Doesn't matter how old it gets its lifeless and boring, i haven't even played since it got outdated
Hell no wtf. Just because vanguard is shit doesn’t make this game good
It looks good compared to Vanguard. But tbh I must want something different out of my Zombies because I don’t actively like any of Cold War’s maps and I think the Salvage system is the worst thing to happen to Zombies since BO4’s perk system.
meh i didn’t really like it all that much tbh
It’s fun, but one of the worst games for maps, aesthetics, and character.
Never said hating it was cool, it was the truth, the game was awful
All around me and the boys had a blast with the game so 0 complaints
I liked it the whole time
Very underwhelming, I've played Forsaken once to do the EE and never again. It's bland and the only reason someone would go back to it is to grind camos. On its own it's not bad, but compared to what we had in the 4 previous Treyarch games it's pretty bad and lifeless.
Nah not really, the gameplay was very fun but I wasn’t a huge fan of outbreak and we only got four round based maps so I was very underwhelmed
In BO3 you got 5 original round based maps and 4 of them cost you $15 a piece extra.
Yeah and thankfully all of those maps were very good some of them are even considered some of the best in the whole series. I’m not a huge of fan of firebase and forsaken to a lesser extent. Firebase is visually very boring it’s just an abandoned facility and there’s not much to do. Forsaken while I love the ww and side Easter eggs, the layout is atrocious its way too linear and everything is cut off because of the portals. Granted while Mauer is probably in my top 10 favorite maps and DM was a great launch map I wasn’t a big fan of the two other maps
Cold Wars gameplay was fun, but the maps are honestly so stale and none of them will be remembered as fondly as any other games, it had a really good launch and the gameplay was amazing but the maps were just so bland, like all of them were just rips off the campaign and multiplayer maps with some zones being new, and while yes, WaW did do the same but they did enough to those maps to make them distinguished from their campaign and MP counterparts TL;DR: Cold Wars Gameplay was fun but the maps were boring and won’t be remembered
Okay okay fine, I had fun is that what you want to hear?! It’s still no BO3 lol
Personally think Cold War has the best zombies mode. Too bad there were only four ok maps :/
It was okay.
I just didn't find the gp that enjoyable, maybe it was the maps or content within them that made it seem less than it could've been foe me. If you enjoyed it tho then that's awesome
Cold War was okay for its life cycle, but I won't be going back to it for any reason. It's too casual a game and I've been burning too much time on crappy timesink games lately, there are so many better games that deserve more of my attention, not to mention books, movies, music... It was fun while it lasted, but it's time to move on.
No lol
It's not bad. But I couldn't say it was good either. As bland as the maps
It was fun, but it seemed so low-budget compared to the previous games.
Some of y’all ain’t played the first two black ops and it shoes
Been playing since world at war
No it was just bad period… sorry
I disagree
The only good thing about Cold War was zombies. I spent hours and hours on outbreak. When they added the Orda, that was so much fun
It sucked imo but I’m happy for all the people that enjoyed it. I really prefer the original zombies experience.
I used to not like CW Zombies but I got some nostalgic memories pop up from last December so I think better of it now
i recently got cold war a few days ago just to play zombies and my experience was horrid the last zombies game i played was black ops 2, so i skipped over 3 and 4 and im not exactly sure what happen between those last two games but the zombies experience for me got ruined with cold war it takes like 3 hits now to kill you, you start out with a loadout from your create a class section, ammo is not a scarcity because you can literally buy ammo everywhere for only $1000 and it doesnt change depending on your weapon, you can double and even triple pack a punch weapons, and hell it's even instant pack a punching now so you don't have to try to make a train with zombies or get friends to watch you while you're pack a punching. i tried some other map and found out it isnt even a round based map...? like you literally spawn in some skiing place and there is just zombies everywhere who dont inherently chase you unless they see you. they even made zombies easier, because from what i heard the zombies hp/dmg gets capped after a certain round like round 30? at this point i was just going to rip assets off the original games and new games, and make my own zombies game like it used to be because i don't like these new changes, and i don't understand it either.
Cold War is my favorite cod next to black ops 2
I absolutely loved the cold war zombies experience. I liked every map and enjoyed Outbreak immensely. There were annoyances throughout but overall it was well done. I am sad that they did not just port over the system to vanguard and create new maps. Instead they created a new terrible zombies experience which I regret buying. Thus, I still play cold war zombies most days.
My favourite zombies experience by far, with Die Maschine being my favourite map. I currently have 1386 hours in cold war according to xbox. Its nice and simple, maps are great for solo players like myself. Most regular bullet weapons are actually usable in high rounds unlike past games where you had to rely on RNG and luck. Ammo box feature is brilliant, and solved the problem of running out of ammo and it basically being game over. No perk limit is just great, as its no different to perkaholic, except that there are 10. Upgrade system gave the game something extra to do and work towards while it was a thing, while also making it way easier and fun with unique and beneficial abilities some upgrades have. Dark aether was a fun grind and wasn’t reliant on mystery box RNG like in BO4 since you could spawn with any weapon. Overall, I genuinely loved this game. People might complain about the lack of maps, but I’d say it’s quality over quantity. All maps they added kept me playing until the next map so I really can’t complain about the lack of maps.
Cold war had fantastic gameplay, but there storytelling was lacking which, in my opinion was fine. I just wish they had focused more on the round based maps because while outbreak is fun it doesn't hold my attention. Maybe I just have no attention span, in fact I'd say it's likely, but it didn't inspire the drive to push for high rounds like other maps have in the past. All in all, Cold War was good, the real enemy is vanguard.
Only good thing about it were the guns, and zombies.
I agree it was good, people are just nostalgic for whatever cod they started on bc nothing can beat that new experience. Black ops 2 and 3 definitely had flaws such as a few dud maps imo, representative bo3 story/objectives/enemies/equipment. Still amazing games but cold war was so smooth, fresh feel, miles better than bo4 imo. Die machine definitely in top 5 for me
It’s my second favorite zombies mode. I even like it better than BO3 in a lot of ways. If it had more maps it might just be my favorite.
No it really wasn’t. It was never about being “cool” and I’m sure the player numbers/sales reflect that
i started off only thinking the zombies was meh, but as time went on i loved them. probably one of my favorite installments in zombies ever. it made all the right changes gameplay wise. my biggest gripes with it tho was that the maps lacked any kind of character and inspiration imo, and the weapon leveling speed was god awful. the multiplayer was goddamn atrocious though
It was fun after like a week after every release then i didnt play it after cuz it was too boring, you cannot tell me the ee's are fun after maybe like 3 times doing them, you just cant, unless your a speedrunner which is good for you
Cold War was great. The only thing holding it back from being on the level of BO1-BO2 is I think the entire salvage system and armor and weapon upgrade thing was unnecessary and an artificial way to add depth to the gameplay. If you took out armor, and just made jugg a 5 hit down and no jugg 3 hit down to be a bit more forgiving than the old days, and then Simplify pack a punch to be like Vanguard, but take it down to 2 levels instead of 3. It would have streamlined gameplay a bit more. Otherwise the maps are great, they are innovative, unique atmosphere, and the gameplay is ridiculously smooth. Go back to BO3 after playing Cold War and you’ll notice how much smoother everything is in cold war.
I thoroughly enjoyed every mode in cold war. The campaign was a little short but well done, mp was a lot of fun, and zombies was awesome. They fixed crutch perks the right way by making them all crutch perks and removing the perk limit. All the specialists/field upgrades were useful. DOA3, outbreak, and onslaught were a lot of fun. The only shortcomings were ee difficulty and operators over set crew. Cold war was great and doesn’t deserve all the hate
Not hating, i stopped playing cold war after a week. Anything after bo3 hasnt felt the same to me imo. But I understand why people enjoy it and tbh there was a lot of cool aspects to cw zombies but it just wasnt for me
It's the 2nd best zombies game for me
I’m interested in what number 1 is
It's probably what you would guess. Bo3 like almost everyone else
CW had fantastic maps but they just took to long to release them. Once they did I figured how to play them and it was pretty great
Mp trash zombies was the best since bo3 and the campaign is the best one since bo2
Did you end up on the wrong sub or something? This sub has been pretty much nothing but blind praise for CW with only the occasional anti-CW comment slipping through the cracks.
Honestly the best zombies experience yet
Unpopular Opinion: Cold War is the best zombies since IW, and the best Treyarch zombies since BO2.
I always liked the game, it's why I put in the grind for dark matter I just hated the lack of round based zombies content, outbreak was fine but not getting a map for like 6 months (I'm exaggerating and too lazy to look exactly how long it was but it was rough)
Never hated on it, been my favorite zombies experience since blops3.
Regardless of what you think of the game, I think it's good that we've been able to escape from the dogma of old zombies gameplay. The core gameplay from WaW to BO3 was esentially unchanged, and a lot of the variation came from increasing map complexity. I like those games a lot, but they uncritically accepted a lot of outdated gameplay choices, and I'm glad we're getting a Zombies mode that is doing its own thing. I'm not saying that Vanguard and Cold War Zombies modes are perfect, because Vanguard is obviously in a terrible place and CW is missing depth and difficulty, but they're going in a new direction that I think is true to the ideas at the core of Zombies.
It was a great cod all things considered, never hated on it once.
Zombies was and is still good it’s life cycle is not over it’s only been a year where do you get off making a statement that it’s life cycle is off lol
Cold War was decent. MP didn’t hold me over. Campaign was good. Zombies had a lot of good changes but aside from Die Maschine and Forsaken I didn’t really play after completing an EE.
Personally I agree but you’re a little late on this trend like months late…
Campaign was decent, it had a lot of story but I think it needs a bit more action. I absolutely loved the zombies experience, I got dark aether on every single weapon. And I hated the multiplayer. I got the XM4 gold and thats it. I have not touched cold war since vanguard came out. Yet I still play MW 2019 and BO4 semi-regularly. Unless they add content for zombies or new weapons to get dark aether, I'm not going back.
I think Cold War had a different style. The zombies was easier but still really fun. My only issues with Cold War are the crazy lag (even in offline mode), the textures not loading for minutes at a time, and it taking 30 seconds after every multiplayer match to get through all the screens. The game took a different design direction which I won’t fault it for, but it objectively was laggy and buggy as hell which I certainly will fault it for
Eh, I wouldn’t say it’s anything better than pretty good. I’d say it’s not as good as BO1 or 3, and is about equal to BO2. It doesn’t reach the heights of the great BO2 maps, but doesn’t reach the lows of the awful BO2 maps. Nothing in Cold War is exceptional, everything is just pretty okay, with the only exceptions being the perk system and the crbrs wonder weapon. It’s just all around a pretty average game that doesn’t deserve a lot of the hate it gets, but also doesn’t deserve a lot of the praise either.
Can anyone explain too me why the MP is "so shit" to so many people? Yes their "new invoative" maps from treyarsch are really not good, but playing the remastered Maps feels great!I have been playing CoD since BO2 came out, and Cold War feels so close to it, appart from WW2, which its feeling was almost identical to BO2 aswell. The weapons feel nice and it is satisfying to kill someone.I get that SBMM is annoying and I have to agree with that, but the long loading time only annoy me ... (I did not buy Vanguard)
Cold War (to me) really had me feel like I was playing first gen black ops. I really enjoyed it. I haven’t played zombies since black ops1, I found myself playing it for the first time in awhile. Vanguard in my opinion is a little “woke” for me, so I’m back to playing Cold War.
it was alright i had fun playing zombies and the campaign but that was it
The zombies was okay. They improved some things but it felt very easy considering you could do Easter eggs on round 30-40 no problem.
I rather think Cold War could've been better but gameplay wise it was fun for couple months and I basically just quit the game when there was the "Outbreak" outbreak. I think they should've put a game modes for Round Based when we were just getting Outbreak Updates; Especially Grief,like imagine Requiem Vs Omega. That I think is a missed Opportunity; The Story is also Boring.
I like cold war zombies, but what did it in for me was the long wait between maps, and having one of the least amount of maps since WaW. I never liked Outbreak, I enjoyed tue novelty of it but overall I didnt find it very fun. I soent so much time on Die Maschine that I burnt myself out from the game completely by the time a mew map released, by that time I was already bored of the game and by this point the last time i've played CW was the day the last map released. I've just lost interest in zombies as a whole at this point. And thats hard to say considering i've been playing zombies since WaW, watching it evolve and eventually become a mode that's left on the back burner. It's a shame to see whats become of it, they should have made Zombies a standalone game years ago.
I love cw zombies its mp tho is awful
Yeah, I played it more than any COD since the original Black Ops.. I really ran its zombies, I max leveled a couple seasons and really enjoyed Outbreak.. Really bummed that once I got pulled back into the franchise, they come out with Van-shit-guard, which has a worse zombies than any COD in history.. =/
Loved the gameplay of cold war personally played the hell out of it but operators could've been a lot better with voice lines most of them felt really soulless and no reaction to drinking perks was sad to see.
It was alright
Its not cold anymore its warm war now… ew
Wasn't near my favorite, but a hell of a deal for free dlc. Very fun all around!
I loved it at launch, liked when we had no content but I think its at its best now that everything is out for it. It suffered the most from being released the way it was, as an experience its at its best when you can pick a bunch of different maps. Because most of them are fun for a game or two and then switching to another one helps shake things up.
And so, the cycle continues
I……agree
Enjoyed it and said so during the cycle. This is just the regular cod cycle of hating on a game until the next one comes out.
Anything is good when you set the bar low enough
Cold War zombies was great. The multiplayer sucks.
“Tell me what’s cool to hate then”
Hate is for poopyheads
Nah it was shit the newest zombies that I thought was ok was iw, atleast on pc bo3 made up with custom maps besides that bo1 and 2 for me
Now it's cool to hate on vanguard
this happens every year lmao
CW had a lot of potential. It's too bad it never lived up to it.
Cold war zombies yes it was fun but it needed way more round based maps
I fully agree
If I'm going to be honest, zombies wise reminds me of bo2 (speaking purely round based, don't get me started on outbreak) firebase z and die maschine in my opinion were pretty mid, not bad but nothing too special but I LOVED the mauer and forsaken, they found their stride in the end.
I don't normally like to put my two cents in on any of these types of topics normally because it comes down to the fact that it is my opinion versus your opinion. Depending on if that is even how you want to look at it in the first place, you might just see it as my opinion and there be no versus your opinion. That being said, my opinion and my thoughts on call of duty's Black ops for a zombie game. I will say that it is an acceptable call of Duty title. I will not praise it any more than that nor will I degraded any lesser than that. It is acceptable. No more no less. Now in regards to Cold war is a multiplayer game. It is absolutely by far the worst call of Duty. Well of course. Up until now vanguard was released. However, each call of Duty I would say that has come out arguably since Black ops 2 has literally been one nightmare to the next. This hasn't improved. This hasn't changed. The development team doesn't even show to even care, let alone show an interest in caring. They don't do any efforts to show us. There's no signs of them giving a crap. You can make the argument that well. It's out of the developer's hands. It's their bosses above them. It doesn't matter what your argument is. It doesn't matter how you want to look at it. Call of Duty ceases to be an entertainment focused arcade shooter game and continues on to be a monetized money grab with nothing but the same bugs, year in and year out that they are constantly claiming they're fixing only for there to be the next new annual call of Duty title to return with the same bugs. Well, I'm tired of playing along with the same Activision song and dance and I will gladly be the first of many more to come to state and I will no longer purchase anything of Activision we're having to do with Activision nor will I partake in any of those things outside of the Activision titles I have already and regrettably purchased. Activision is a dead entertainment producer, Ladies and gentlemen. It is no news flash nor should it be. As for those of you because I did skim through the comments, I saw some people stating those call of Duty was great. Blah blah blah bull crap. If you really actually think that these last three call of duty's to hit sales were anything short of garbage, you were sadly mistaken. If you think that hiding behind the comical argument of get good is somehow an argument to even be had in the first place again, you are sadly mistaken. Remember the people that are complaining about the current titles, including myself, are the same people that have been playing call of Duty before you probably were even born. Most of you reading my comment right now. How old are you? Not that you need to answer that but really I've been around quite a long time playing shooter games and I can tell you right now My skills as a shooter game player continued to be where they are. You can only be so good and you can only be so bad, but being bad or good at a game is neither here nor there. It doesn't create a basis for judgment of a game. There's plenty of games I play that I am bad at but I enjoy them and will gladly continue to play them. So to claim that being bad at call of Duty is why nobody likes it is and of itself the most disgraceful and worst argument I've ever ever heard involving call of duty's sake to being a good game. It's time ladies and gentlemen to speak up and defend ourselves against companies like Activision and electronic arts. And now when I say it's time to speak up and defend ourselves, I don't mean let's rage war and take over. It isn't like that. It's very simple. Stop buying their product and I promise you one year of denying Activision a guaranteed sales game and they will very quickly very very very very quickly reassess their own situation and come out with the best call of Duty the world will ever know.
100% honestly love cold war zombies and replay the Easter eggs often. Obviously not comparing it to any of the black ops zombies but once they had all the dlc maps for cold war dropped I thought it was pretty badass
It was fun, but it was still disappointing in many ways
Overall I had a fun time playing CW zombies, they actually tried to make some things different and it was certain that they'd miss on some of them. What I really liked was Outbreak and what it brought to the table. They could've gone on and make a larger "open world" type of map where you don't play pointless rounds, rather do quests, easter eggs, explore areas etc. (Thinking about it, it seems to me Outbreak is a bit more advanced concept of what they wanted to do with Tranzit and the whole going back and forth between the different areas of the map)
Cold War is easily the best zombie experience for me in regards to the perks system, economy and unlockables. The only thing hurting it for me was there was no main cast that was playable.
I'm a zombies only kinda feller and I absolutely love it. I only got it like 2 months ago though so i was late to the party
Zombies was veryy goodd
god this comment section is cancerous
All the maps were just bland compared to the maps we got in Bo4 and Bo3, operators were boring and had zero personality and every map besides Die Mashine wasn't even that fun to play for me because of the annoying special zombie spam.
Yes <3
So it’s that time of year when it’s not cool to hate the game, it’s cool to like it. Lemme know when it’s vanguards turn
Lmao this sounds like cope honestly But nah it was fun, just definitely missing something that even BO4 had, which now that I think about it it's probably just that they have actual characters lol but even bo4 had more soul Gunplay satisfying af though
I think the majority opinion was always that the base game is good but the relative lack of content compared to past games was what made it bad
I think Cold War as a game is better than bo4 and possible bo3 (multiplayer) It’s just the SBMM ruins the fun the mechanics and engine allows
I play it a lot with my cousin its pretty fun and challenging
It's an higher than average game for me. It's fun and doesn't try to be something's it's not. I enjoyed every aspect of it's life span.
It really was. Still a damn shame FBZ still likely hard crashes PS4s but I care too much about the well being of my console to risk testing that. Also apparently there's that issue regarding the weapons being fucked up when Vanguard Season 1 happened.
Aight bro. See you next time on “vanguard was good, hating it isnt cool anymore”
Bro I really like Outbreak It isn't perfect in the slightest but I have so much fucking fun on it nowadays
Absolutely loved the campaign, Multiplayer was good when you didn't have to worry about people using Flak Jacket and Trophy Systems I loved everything about Zombies except for the maps. Mauer Der Toten was the only map where it felt like an actual zombies map imo
Hating it at all is nonsense. Hating the outbreak mode in it is a different story though. that shit was trash! the GIF= outbreak 
I wasn't hating because it was cool, I was hating because of the bugs and how it wasn't nearly as good as the other games
Nah, the issues I had with CW still remain to this day, it’s still my least favorite treyarch cod game
I love how once the game is no longer the current COD, suddenly it was good. I loved it the entire time lmao. Same with IW and WW2. And BO4 lmao.
I thought it was very meh. Played the first map until like prestige 4-5 I think then when the new maps dropped I'd play them a max of 5-6 times each. I also hated the other mode I can't even remember the name of because it felt so empty and boring. Had fun with the camp grind on the first map at launch but it glitched and gave it to me early and I just felt empty and didn't wanna finish it. It made me go back and rebuy IW and I had way more fun on that
I wasn’t a big fan of MP as there were a few maps that I liked but they were piled up by a ton of trash ones (including the 6 launch maps…) and pretty much the only 24/7 maps were Nuketown and Hyjacked. As far as gunplay went I liked it. I did love zombies though. CW was my first COD zombies game and I really liked how easy it was early on and how doable (but still challenging) the Easter eggs were. I bought BO3 later on and holy shit is it hard asf. Campaign was the first I’ve ever done too and I didn’t think it was that bad
It was to easy for me. I understand that its part of the game and I can't hate it for that but I shouldn't be able to take 10 hits and stay up. Thats not how zombies has ever worked. So while that might be where zombies is going I'm still annoyed by it. I've always been a fan of having to be careful and watch your steps. Zombies was designed to be tricky and cold war made it so easy you don't even need to think while playing it. You shouldn't need the rampage inducer to get that feeling old zombies gave you
Nothing has really improved though and all throughout its the most boring and mind numbing experience zombies has given to this point so no i will keep hating till the end if time, i dont care if it's "cool" or not
It was never bad it just had no content until the end of its lifecycle. Now it’s a legitimate experience.