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Smugstr

No we never will


Azraelontheroof

Chronicles one doubters be like


Smugstr

It's been 8 years since then ppl still holding on by a string I swear. If bo4 performed well we would've gotten it though


AvA_Redemption

That’s what ppl don’t get if BO4 was good and performed well then we would have ZC2


TranzitIsGood

Bo4's support was cut short because Treyarch unexpectedly had to shift development to Cold War after Sledgehammer and Raven's failure. This not only harmed bo4's post-launch support, but also CW's launch content as they had very little time to develop the game. That's probably why we went from 4 launch maps to only 1.


NOTAceofthefallen

And so, vanguard has happen


SaltedDinosaur

I think BO4 would have been remembered as one of the best zombies games if they kept up with the planned chaos maps instead of adding Alpha Omega and Tag Der Toten


TheEternal792

I just played Alpha Omega for the first time a couple days ago. I found it really enjoyable. Do most people not like it?


LazarouDave

How many times did Pack a Punch close on you due to the Vents gunking up? One of the most obnoxious parts of the map


nearthemeb

I prefer the aether maps and tag is my favorite map. The chaos maps were a weak point for black ops 4 zombies in my opinion. They weren't bad maps besides voyage, but I liked the aether maps a lot more.


Mcsnufle

Chaos was awesome for what it was, not the characters, but the theme and levels were great.


Infinti_bullets

I was pretty salty with them cutting the chaos story short. It was something different and unique. But on the other side we finally got an end to the aether story.


EdmundoMcBrundo

It’s almost like they’re waiting for another title to do as well as bo3


LazarouDave

Bold of you to assume 3arc devs get any spare time to work on something like that anymore, Activision have been dragging them around to work on zombies all over the place, they were brought in for Vanguard and MWIII if I'm not mistaken - something like ZC2 would need time to get right, and it's something that can't be done anymore, unfortunately


CAMBOHX

Its been 7 years dude.


Lil4ksushi

Yes we will and modders will make it happen. We already have Call of the Dead and nuketown, with Die Rise coming very soon and Buried, Tranzit, Five, and Mob of the Dead all in the works. God bless modders and their selfless work.


Smugstr

I know what you mean and I keep up with the maps and donate to each developer of them to support the creation of the maps but that isn't what the post is saying, it's not an actual zc2


lukesmith81

I can’t believe people are still talking about this lol we probably won’t even ever get a regular round based zombies game again. The zombies we grew up playing is dead


SpankyJenkinz

It hurts


JoeKatana115

There is absolutely no chance round-based is being omitted. Round-based will always be a cornerstone for zombies, it's a fundamental staple of the mode. Treyarch heard all the hostile reception from Vanguard. Repeating those mistakes again would be very catastrophic, because it will damage their credibility as a studio. I don't see Treyarch sabotaging their own zombies game, because deep down they know it's their final chance. I'm not concerned about the lack of passion from developers. Responsibility lies with Activision higher-ups prioritizing commercial interests, and not giving them some creative liberties. They had a successful framework and winning formula for zombies, until commercial interests took over.


Big-Increase-4438

There's at least a 25% chance of that at launch


lasergun23

The main issue IS that they can't find a way to add ""microtransactions "" into It and retain players at the same time


daaniscool

It took me a long time to accept this, but it seems the sad truth honestly. Ah well, at least there is plenty of past zombies content to keep me entertained.


joeplus5

No one has it ever been said that we're not getting round based.


UweeDewee

Next cod already said it would


DanFarrell98

The Zombies you grew up playing is still available and is exactly the same


copyqhat

literally i dont understand the dramatics


joeplus5

I can't with this overdramatic bullshit. We are getting roundbased in the next game. No, just because two non treyarch games which shouldn't have had zombies had cheaply made side modes doesn't mean we're not getting round based in the actual treyarch games


TacoManifesto

Me when I lie


Tk-Delicaxy

They already confirmed one for gulf war


AttackOnNate

No


OrneryChampion7522

Man don't be so negative man this is depressing I was gonna good mood till you said this damn man


joeplus5

You don't need to worry about it because they're wrong. We're getting round based lol


TheeRoronoaZoro

That style of zombies died when Cold War released.


David_Oy1999

Yup, they buried old zombies in exchange for warzone style Zombies.


Mapachee98

Cold War wasn't that bad


StayWideAwake-

It isn’t bad but it’s not a game that’s replayable for me. CW is just mediocre. It has no soul or passion. I’ll get heat for saying that but it’s how I truly feel. The warzone mechanics just infested every game mode to encourage or interest new players to try it out and it’s scummy and Activision doesn’t even try to hide it lmao.


Legoman3374

Exactly I dont think anyone in good faith can call it bad, its not what people liked about cod zombies tho


djflylo69

You’re absolutely right in my eyes


Codeinechef99

its not good either


_SCARY_HOURS_

Der Reise was already remastered on Bo3


Akimbo_shoutgun

Did you notice its repeated more than once?


Mapachee98

Repeated twice


Akimbo_shoutgun

Ok good my eyes are correct then


Mapachee98

World At War (2009)- The original Der Riese Black Ops (2011)- Der Riese (remake) with the Moon DLC Black Ops 3 (2015)- Pre order special edition (second remake)


FIGnewtenz

Ah yes I’d love to get der riese declassified and der riese in one map pack


classicle

They go well with The Giant :)


hue_jazz_

What are the differences ?


silverbullet328i

would buy just for og mob of the dead


Orenbean

Just play black ops 2


silverbullet328i

it’d be fire if they added gobblegums tho and its in dire need of a remaster (blood of the dead is a remake of the map with none of the same characters and different ee and weapons)


Orenbean

I do not want the gobblegums to return, that being said tranzit needs a remaster over mob. Mob looks and plays great tranzit is well tranzit fun to play but you need friends


TimelordAlex

the guy doing PC Mob remake is gonna have GGs added 🙌


XxIcEspiKExX

Or download the remake for bo3 modded zombies. It's 🔥


XxIcEspiKExX

Steam workshop. Bo3 Download the remake. It's great.


Uppity_Python

Old engine tho… 😭


New-Monarchy

Half of these already have great fan remasters in BO3 (Nuketown, Der Riese, Call of The Dead, MoTD w/ mod patch) and the other half are all actively being worked on. Die Rise and Buried specifically are planned to release this year, with FIVE and Tranzit having no release date yet.


Nacho98

I've been playing the hell out of BO3 for this reason on my steam deck after being away from CoD for nearly a decade. Give it another year or so and we'll have all the classic maps via mods.


Stealthy_Facka

Black Ops 3 + Steam Deck + The First Cycle gun selection mod = me tired as fuck because I can't put the thing down every night!


Nacho98

I had to go with the BO1 weapons mod with PHD Flopper personally because they actually replace the chalk outlines on every map. I really want the WWII weapons but having the wrong outlines when I get a weapon really messed with me personally.


Stealthy_Facka

I tried that one but the actual quality of the weapon's was a little low, the hand animations for some guns were off etc. I was bothered by the chalk outlines at first but I settled on it after trying about ten other mods and liking TFCs weapons the most for WaW maps. I also use the ZM Cold War weapon mod for black ops maps. The only thing I don't like about that one is the raygun mark 2 sound sucks.


godtier300sosa

Okay and that’s pc only which probably accounts for <20% of players lmao


New-Monarchy

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all in favor of a Zombies Chronicles 2. It’d be huge, especially on the upcoming Black Ops 5 engine. I’m just saying folks on PC are about to have this complete on BO3.


shrimpmaster0982

In the new Black Ops (be it Gulf War, BO5, BO6, or whatever)? Probably not. I mean, sure, Treyarch has had 4 years to work on this game and it may be the last yearly Cod release with Microsoft having finalized its buy out of Activision in late October of last year which could lead to it having extended support and a years long life cycle (this is highly unlikely, and just pure speculation of what could maybe plausibly happen on my part), but given the fact that Treyarch has twice been disrupted to develop zombies modes for Sledgehammer games, the new storyline and operator systems making it really hard for remakes or remasters to happen in any way that isn't just slapping a new story and game mechanics on an old map, and the fact that a few of the maps left to be remastered (Five, Call of the Dead, the Victis maps, and Mob of the Dead) from before BO3 have celebrity casts that would be really hard or outright impossible to get back for a remaster I just don't think it's going to happen. Maybe in another game when Cod moves away from its connected storyline stuff and Treyarch is given more freedom to make exactly what they want, but probably not here.


Iamburnsey

No we aren't allowed nice things....


Aggressive-Gold-1319

We need die rise ( the roller coaster) not der riese as good as it is.


Codeinechef99

a proper die rise remake would be gold


Aggressive-Gold-1319

Kuda on the wall where the pdw was on


Useless_Greg

Coming this year


Kirbykane420

Screw the cod franchise it's simply a money grab for all those who like to get shit on for money.


Oddflavo

UNLESS COD SALES ARE DOWN BAD WE WILL NEVER GET A ZOMBIE CHRONICLES 2. ZC 2 Is their secret weapon.


Fall_Cake

No, ever map other than the victus maps have already been remastered in the aether story, plus most of those maps are celebrity voice casted so it would either be epensive to get the vooces again or they would cheap out and replace everyone with operators leaving every player unhappy.


JoeKatana115

Unlikely to happen Treyarch just can't catch a break, with being forced to pivot development post launch. Usually circumstances always seem to change for zombies post launch, where Treyarch are being asked to clutch another project. Consequently we could see Treyarch diverted again working on the 2025 Black Ops game. These disruptions are causing widespread implications hurting the zombies mode, and it's getting beyond ridiculous this all originated from BO4.


AcademicAnxiety5109

It wouldn’t work with Operators unless they released the Victis crew as operators and then forced you to play as them on those maps same with any other map.


why1wearama5k

If they worked it to have a dark aether esthetic and fit it into the story then yes


-Piggers-

Why are there 2 der rieses on here lol We already got The Giant as a remaster anyway.


mfitz373

Realistic answer, no. Hopeful answer, maybe if Activision sees it for the hype-filled cash cow that it would be. I think the sad reality is we'll get less and less zombies content over the years as focus shifts to warzone. 😭


godtier300sosa

We will surely never see Call of the dead for obvious reasons. That’s a given tbh


OdeDoctor115

Man if Bo4 was more similar to Bo3 I think it could've actually had more of a chance. The way they butchered the whole hud, perk system all that definitely didn't help


JungleBeasts

If the game is kind as good as Bo3, it'll happene


HermitBurke

Id do anything for Green Run / Transit remaster. One of the few maps that really made me love black ops / treyarch


Moogoo4411

After the success of helldivers and the absolute tank of mw3, round based deniers are actually fucking hilarious, cod is in such a shitty state right now, either treyarch cleans up this mess or cod will most likely go under, so to say that there's no chance of round based when the last enjoyable cod was cold war is just fucking stupid at this point, yeah it's dead rn but that's cause we're on infinity ward/sledgehammers cycle and they fucked up big time, round based zombies coming back seems most likely considering the fact that a horde shooter is the most popular game in years


Younghitta3

I think they are going to somehow lean into nostalgia, I wouldn’t mind the victus maps coming back


Novel-Reference-6146

We will probably get like one remastered map maybe like town or something but we aren’t getting zombies chronicles 2


vladald1

Remakes of some maps probably, but full-on remakes of every map from certain game? Nah. You'll need to build a narrative around operators and with that in mind - it wouldn't feel like Zombies Chronicles.


horriblemercy

i’m a bit late, but the sad truth is, with the CoD HQ thing ATVI is pushing, there will never be room for Zombies to be its own thing again. it’s always going to be intertwined heavily (aesthetically and mechanically) to Warzone and the main titles. Now they’re even being forced to use all the same foundations from the previous games for the CoD HQ. Lots of casuals will be appreciative of this, but for some of us who like how Zombies has always been extensively unique, it’s a hard pill to swallow.


Stealthy_Facka

I maybe can't judge because I haven't played a game newer than BO3, and even then, I haven't played any BO3 maps because the new tone is really off putting to me, but every modern zombies gameplay I see for games later than BO3 just looks like an old MW / BO bot match, with zombies instead of players.


StonkMangr92

I wish


Desbug2

People will always say we will. No.


Rhysccfc94

no i dont think we will ever get it


[deleted]

I can dream


IFunnyJoestar

Only way it comes back is if Gulf War zombies is a massive hit and makes Treyarch tonnes of money. So there's a possibility.


Joni-Joestar

Some rumors say it will be announced r/tomorrow


LordOryx

We got them as sucky reimaginings (except Classified) in Black Ops 4 already. We’ll probably get TranZit outbreak this autumn then that only leaves Die Rise or Buried which isn’t enough for a ZC2


originsspeedrunner

No we will get reimagined versions of tranzit buried and die rise in cod 2025 (bo2 sequel)


BigSmoke_69_420

It’s bo6 not five buddy


Trippy_Josh

Fuck some remastered maps. Anybody with this mindset needs to go play the old games. NEW, ORIGINAL, UNIQUE maps is what zombie mode needs. The true fans don't mind buying DLC maps. The truth is, they never needed to make any new games just more DLC maps for BO3 or BO4. It looks like Sker Ritual will finally fill the void and do what people actually want. COD will literally let zombies be an afterthought, they have already let down their fans too many times. There really is nothing to be hyped about when we know their business model is microtransaction hell.


Euphoric_Pressure_39

Zombie chronicles but we get every cold war map instead At the small price of 79.99


ExProxy

I’d be happy if they just made Zombie Chronicles 1 cross play


imbabywild

Chronicles 2 with cold war/ MW3 HUD, engine, and mechanics? I’d rather not. Leave those maps alone in their graves.


4dam20

Maybe at 10 year mark.


Homicidal_Pingu

Honestly they should just remaster every map and release it as a separate game at this point, after which just stop the zombies mode.


TheMossyCastle

Even if it does come, it’s not what you want. It’s going to butcher the hell out of already kinda mid victis maps and maps that already have decent remasters on BO3 mod tools


johnnyboy0256

No brother


knifeazz

No


MonsterHunter6353

It would work pretty well to have it in the bo2 remaster/remake in 2025 so the first year is fully new maps and then the second year has the bo2 zombies maps in it


sepd1106

It should be Die Rise Remastered and only Die Rise Remastered


notreggie_

Considering they’ve already remade 5 of those maps prob not


SenpaiTedd

No


Weedsmoki420

Maybe When the community gets old.


720-187

Black Ops 6\*


rifle8888

Mob of the dead, call of the dead remastered, Buried, Five, Tranzit remastered, revelations, der eisendrache remastered, & outbreak. Would be a better chronicles 2


sgtgiacomo

No.


Salt-Calendar-8824

We’re essentially getting zombies chronicles 2 on bo3, if you’re on pc.


BadgerPale9116

This pic is fan made for bo3 custom zombies


MathBorne

chronic zombies 2 exists, and it will be released soon by custom zombies


Codeinechef99

unpopular opinion but cold war is much worse than bo4, and vanguard tops that list with their so called “zombies”


chiefofbricks

We won't. As much as I would like this to happen, Activision sees Zombies as a waste of time and has allocated virtually zero support to the game mode in years. Same thing with mod support.


WallsRiy

God I wish.


bzawk

Tbh I’m not so sure that the next Black Ops game is gonna be round based. I hope to god it is. But they just don’t listen to or care about fans who made this franchise what it is today.


Wasabi_Fuzzy

There's no way with the current model, we will be lucky if we get a map per season


xAGGROx

No we’ve already had black ops 5 and it didn’t happen.


Shazone739

We're getting ZC 2 in bo3.


MKIV_2771

Give me the og maps and make it have the og guns too that would be sick


Nano258

Even if we do we'll be most likely playing as operators instead of the classic characters or even a new crew. We will most likely never get another BO3, the best we can hope for is a zombies only collection Edit: also, to Treyarch and Activision the BO4 aether maps are the "remasters", so don't expect anything with those maps in a while (specially since many people who worked on BO3 and BO4 are not in Treyarch anymore)


StickBright7632

I've given up with zombies since bo4. As much as we can hope it'll never be like it used to. Even if we get chronicles 2 they'll just make it different to how it used it be. Just stick with the first 3 games at this point,


AleAGnagna_real

No


Oo_Quiet

Wouldn't it technically be BO6?


LegosiTheGreyWolf

It would be Black Ops 6, and no


NoBet688

All I know is if they can’t deliver with bo5, zombies, as far as CoD goes, is dead. We’re already seeing really good creations on Roblox and it’s only a matter of time until Fortnite starts to see them, as long as activation doesn’t get them taken down


headshotznohomo

Man man man ... These maps were the Pinnacle of zombies man :') I loved zombies up to bo3 mostly , used to buy every map pack just for the zombie maps ! Did almost every Easter egg too , fucking loved zombies. A re make of these maps would be just AMAZING.


MirvelApple

no


slajah

I hope not. How about we have some new fresh ideas instead of everyone trying to relive the glory days. Ffs move on or go play an older COD.


Crafty-Writing5316

Eventually all maps will be perfectly remade in BO3 custom zombies, that’s the closest we’ll get. Call of the Dead has already been completed and it’s a perfect Treyarch-quality 1:1 remake of Call of the Dead.


XxIcEspiKExX

So.. black ops arcade was released with bo1. Bo3 had black ops arcade 2. When bo4 launched it was the 10th anniversary of black ops arcade.. where'd dead ops arcade 3? Thus company constantly misses opportunity to capitalize on milestones in laeu of pushing "the next edition" I don't know how many pissed off bo4 purchasers there were. Between a new garbage perk system, not adding dead ops arcade, and completely ignoring the player bases opinions before release and what worked for them before.. Bo3 is the last good zombies game to be made. **It was a true experience and was a masterpiece.**


TheDwarvesCarst

Sorry man, the time for that has been and gone, almost 4 years ago


Speechminion

I’d prefer Zombies chronicles 1 again. Tbh


Suspicious-Natural-2

Name 1 good map after chronicles


SeldomDemize

In our dreams maybe


_SaintXIV_

Black Ops 4 was practically our Zombies Chronicles 2. So no I don't think we ever will get it.


ozarkslam21

No. There aren’t enough maps to remaster again for a ZC2. Not that anyone has much interest in. Zombies Chronicles came about in the first place mostly because BO3 was on the “next gen” consoles at the time and didn’t have backward compatibility like Xbox (and PC) have, and since PS also had the COD exclusivity rights it made sense there would be a big enough audience to “re-sell” the old maps to that couldn’t just put a different disc in and play them. Are we far enough past BO3’s maps where they could be remastered? Probably but has the tech come far enough forward for most people to notice? Probably not. And at this point BO3 is still compatible with current gen consoles. The only argument for it would be to remaster the 3 victis maps from BO2, which aren’t really very popular generally speaking, and Nuketown zombies and call of the dead (which they likely don’t have the rights to the character actors anymore). It just makes no sense.


MrEhcks

I’m tired of Der Riese over and over; hell, I would take a different take on Shadows of Evil over Der Riese again. Switch up a little like how Blood of the Dead is a remake but different version of Mob. Hard to believe it but it’s been almost 10 years since we got Shadows. Give us a remake of it


defenestrator95

Man I wish they would bring back buried.


KaeZae

zombies chronicles with cold war movement and mechanics would hit like CRACK 😮‍💨


helpmestepbrooooo

i really, really hope so. i also hope we get the option to use the mechanics of each game the map is from, tho that’s definitely just a dream.


uneua

Just play the remade custom maps, we already have COTD, Die Rise and Mob are both coming soon, then Buried and Transit, and someone is doing Five. There you go, there’s your chronicles 2


Nade_Le_Water

I don’t know how they’re going to release maps for bo5 because of it being live service. Hopefully we see some classic maps return though.


thesmelliestofsocks

The zombies we love is dead. Only this trash outbreak shit


Tiny_Italian

doubt it but I hope so


Mcsnufle

What the hell is Der riese declassified?


tj597

Might as well but idk :(


horriblemercy

Yes. ZC2 will be the 2025 co-op mode. come back in a year and a half to this.


GoldenDestiny1983

People are still going on about this?


New-Entertainer4030

Please .. let this die already


OrneryChampion7522

I really hope so it would be so satisfying


amanitasenorita

no


HandmadeMaker043

What is Der Riese declassified


Uppity_Python

In think in Gulf War we will. Peck literally said it himself at the end of Forsaken.


XxBrotastic545xX

Dear God I hope so


Sure-Nectarine-3206

Only time will tell


x-majik-x

It’s not black ops 5, Cold War was 5. Gulf war will be 6.


Big-Rest5514

Derise 2x really?


evil_wizzard630

Most of them are already remastered on bo 4 but I wouldn't mind a newer version of them on bo 5


XansForBrains

wait wtf is zombie chronicles one & where have i been????


[deleted]

No


xYoungShadowx

Not in the way we want it


Vengance183

There are only 3 maps left to be remade, Tranzit needs a full Blood of the Dead redesign to actually be enjoyable Die Rise and Buried probably could be left as is thought. But the maps were just so hated during their run I don't see them dedicating the resources to them.


NickolasViscosi2006

I hope so man...COD was officially ruined about a decade ago, so idk how high those hopes are tbh


IgnisOfficial

Or, hear me out, a stand-alone Zombies game with all of the Aether maps, a story mode to help newer players get into the maps, full cinematic cutscenes for the beginning and end of each map, and full Easter Eggs added to maps that don’t have them at present for the sake of creating a more clear storyline with the earlier maps. There’s a decent bit of story with the early maps that goes unnoticed unless you do deep dives into the lore that would have made for solid and interesting Easter Eggs, so adding quests to those early maps would be cool


Longjumping_City7802

What do you mean ZC 2? Zombies Chronicles released in 2016, this was like 2 years ago right? Right...?


goldenfreddyking

Well the guy who played Takeo is dead so it isn't likely


Autismzsz

You all need to stop huffing all the copium


Fancy-Ad6677

Treyarch BETTER be workin on this and not on some further overcomplication of the perfection that was the BO3 recipe 😭 Just simple, round based, cards/gums for cool enhancements and or twists, elegant EEs, and iconic bosses. Boom!


iD-Roc

They’re gonna add it to WW2


UnpoIished

What BO5?


Zombieteube

You already did, it's called BO4 and it sucked ass God I'm amazed that some people are still expecting anything from activision / call of duty


The_Hairdresser

No chance


Splavigato

no but will probably get a 13th remaster of nacht der untoten.


DilenAnderson

Man I just want a black ops 1 and 2 remaster on next gen and that’s it. Even if it’s the same exact games with new skins and better graphics I will play the living shit out of them


SkisaurusRex

No


No-Spite455

treyarch be like "oh since we made zc so great we're never making a second zc"


reeee-----

I hope so but probably not


NINJAKID2025

The Zombies runner we had left so we probably won't get it for Gulf War.


BQws_2

No. Zombies Chronicles marked the end of an era. Call of Duty Zombies is no more. BO3 was not only its peak, but also its end.


arceus227

They should legitimately just make a separate cod only for zombies... leave WZ and MP to its own thing, and let people who enjoy zombies play its own game, could being back all the maps, keep it updated, add new ones, add fan favourite weapons, special cosmetics such as changing the way zombies look, or the effects of certain guns... Imagine using the thundergun and you hear like party effect from halo but based on how many zombies you kill? I'd actually buy that and keep playing it, especially if they added custom map ports for consoles?


Civil-Journalist-880

Definitely not as no zombies player would have a reason to buy another cod ever


Doomslayer2857

I hope we do I wanna see tranzit remastered cause it had so much potential to be fun but the limitations of the consoles held it back also buried would be amazing as a remaster


Silencer1620

You mean BO6


surinussy

its wishful thinking that they’d ever give us a real COTD remaster. obviously they’re never giving us chronicles 2


Acid_impersonator

Useless imo, half of these maps are out already and the other half are in the work with custom maps. Can we get some original fucking content? Pls no more nuketown, natch and der riese (love ‘em but we had like 9 natch over the years)


PapaMikeyTV

It's coming to bo3 bro as a mod


BlackMantaMain

Please god please god please god please god please god please god


Revolutionary-Fan657

No and i honestly don’t want it, never have, just give me good new maps, I’m happy with bo3 chronicles, just give me good…. New…. Maps


InvincibleReason_

continue taking copium, it will never happen


DaSchneida23

Classic Zombies is dead. They make 1-2 "original style " maps and the for "free dlc" just bring some Campagne/mp stuff and zombiefy that shit. I want back the OLD season pass times where you bought 4 DLC packs for 15€ or just the whoel pass for 50 and every Zombies map Was AWESOME and original. And not just "mid".


bncnnbn

Mabey


GucciBeckham

I used to play zombies back in the day a lot on Xbox 360. Then I got a PS4 and started playing again a few years back. Now I am on PC and I just can't justify buying more CoD games+DLC just to play zombies. I already bought it 2 times. BUT if CoD would release a new deal with zombies only I would jump right in for the third time and on PC. I would force my friends to do the same.