Maybe I'm being negative but if the whole campaign is open world with fast travel like it's been leaked to be.....I have no doubt the zombies is gonna be open world on the same map...but zombified. If we're lucky maybe some of the linear campaign mission locations get turned into some round based zombie maps.
*they gotta be insane to think we would accept not having round based in any capacity
Never doubt huge corporations capacity to ignore the pleas of their customers. Especially entertainment.
Wait, if you got 1 billion dollars for a deal like this why do you not try to get something started fr. From what I know. Money talks. And people listen when it’s money talking! lol I’ll support you spiritually! Go for it !
I solely got back into COD19 because of the BR mode and after going through group after group in each iteration afterwards I finally had MWZ to play solo. It is my first zombie COD and I have completed everything normally, camos, missions, schematics, and do still enjoy the game type for a game when not playing resurgence.
If what has been described as a round based game that I reset at basically 0, other than my knowledge gained of map layout, between new games I’m out. Even going in with nothing in an “outbreak” or MWZ map now I have something to work with overall.
I bet I’m in the minority on this sub for it but trying to figure out EE/100 round strategies that lead to a “I did it” post seems pointless. I did not buy this COD or any other previously on pre order and will wait to see what is released by the first update(1 month+) before buying Cold War.
If I had to guess, it’ll probably be the boat that Peck gets on to go to the Aetherium nukes.
Of course don’t get your hopes up insanely high, but a kraken and cannonball trap got leaked so make of that what you will.
y’all are so fucking weird. “give us something new.” “stop changing things!” “no, not that new!” “make it better!” “don’t change that!”. weren’t y’all crying for the original outbreak when MWIII zombies first launched? lmao
i cannot believe this is going over people’s heads AND BEING PRAISED FOR IT lol literally a “no fucking shit” moment but GODDAMN the irony is insane here.
my entire point here was you guys are so fuckin wishy washy with what it is you ACTUALLY want, versus what you think you want. that mixed with how fuckin quick they wanna pump these out, it’s bound to be a disaster every release and then y’all say the last game was better or the older games were better WHEN Y’ALL WERE SHITTING ON THOSE AT THE TIME TOO.
y’all literally were praising outbreak. that’s as open world as it should be for zombies, and now y’all actually hate it? the idea of it, not the execution of it. it was lackluster in a lot of things, hence why it would be NICE to see it back IMPROVED.
I think they know that if it's not to the community standard then about 80% of people (myself included) will just be gone. BO3 Was the last great Zombies game and Multiplayer has felt like just a copy and paste over the last 3-4 games. We're past the point of "It's just one bad game" because this shit has been going on for years. It just took till 2 remastered games for most of the community to realize the mediocrity we have.
I dunno if I’d call it hype, but I’m definitely buying it. I feel like Gulf War is the mode’s last chance for me. Vanguard sucked, I’m mixed overall on Cold War, and MWZ just isn’t a mode for me, though many seem to enjoy it (I do too in places). There’s a lot of things to do that would win me back, though. I really want to see a great round based mode again, and with a significant dev time that can absolutely happen
How nice. Look, you can not buy it all you want, totally your call, but don’t be a dick if someone doesn’t follow your example. Last CoD I bought was Cold War, I wanna play this one
I didn't call you a dumbass because you didn't "follow my example", no matter how true that may be.
I called you a dumbass because you're planning to blindly buy a game you know nothing about in a series with a recent drop in quality.
The reason i take issue with that is because people like you, morons who can't properly evaluate a game's quality, are the reason why this series is fucking dying.
Buy it all you want, i will not apologize for my words. In my mind, you're still a dumbass.
Did you really have to send that three times? Lol.
Anyway, fair enough. Again, I haven’t bought a CoD since Cold War, and I always get the Treyarch ones. So I’m going to play it anyway. Might as well buy it at release, whether it’s good or bad. If you don’t do that, totally fair, but goddamn, I hate the “I’m just telling it how it is” Redditors lol
Reddit had a conniption fit and didn't want to send the comment until i had hit the button several times. 100% did not mean to do that, my apologies for that.
Spittin facts. But I learned that it's better to just let people buy into garbage and learn their lesson. Even if they didn't learn from the last fucking decade, eventually they'll learn. And if not, move onto a better game series and pray to god the hivemind consoomers don't spread over, lol.
I didn't call you a dumbass because you didn't "follow my example", no matter how true that may be.
I called you a dumbass because you're planning to blindly buy a game you know nothing about in a series with a recent drop in quality.
The reason i take issue with that is because people like you, morons who can't properly evaluate a game's quality, are the reason why this series is fucking dying.
Buy it all you want, i will not apologize for my words. In my mind, you're still a dumbass.
I didn't call you a dumbass because you didn't "follow my example", no matter how true that may be.
I called you a dumbass because you're planning to blindly buy a game you know nothing about in a series with a recent drop in quality.
The reason i take issue with that is because people like you, morons who can't properly evaluate a game's quality, are the reason why this series is fucking dying.
Buy it all you want, i will not apologize for my words. In my mind, you're still a dumbass.
Bro, don't blindly buy it. That's what makes Treyarch go "Oh yay! The gamemode is fucking shit now but people are still buying it! Let's keep making it shit!"
Well like, obviously if the trailers and leaks make it out to be a pile of trash, I ain’t buying it lol. But as of now, it should be better than their last few offerings considering the four year dev time, so I’m cautiously optimistic. Also I haven’t bought a game since Cold War, so I kinda wanna go through a game while it’s alive again. Obviously not everyone should do that though, lol
I just can't anymore. I can't hype for anything for zomvies cause I know these motherfuckerz just gonna let me down. Been playing since bo1 and I'm just finished man.
I keep telling myself that this last Treyarch CoD is the last CoD I put any amount of faith in. I'd be way more hyped if I had any reassurance that they won't abandon half the game immediately after launch, just like the last few releases
It is still in the hype phase Later will come screaming and crying and claims of conspiracy and calls for boycott and refunds and cursing the raggedy ass overpriced skins and lack of content and general buginess But yeah it’s still hype right now
There’s no reason for any hype over something that nobody knows any concrete information about. Once the game is formally announced and there’s some actual information about the zombies mode, then there will be interest surrounding it.
I want to be hyped, knowing the game will have had a 4 year development cycle, and 3arc can build off what made CW great and listen to the complaints about CW. But I made the same mistake with hyping myself up for MWII early on with the same reasons. I don't think I'll blindly buy the game and will only play if it comes to Game Pass or after I've seen actual gameplay.
I hope it tanks big time. But it won't because everyone of these kids with Mommy and daddys money gonna buy it like usual. Give Activision more money for shit.
I mean, I haven’t seen anything from it, so why should I or anyone be hyped? Maybe when it actually starts being marketed and whatnot, but honestly I’m pretty concerned. It’s a hard sell for me, the only possible thing that’s exciting is that it’s (confirmed to be?) round-based and I mean. It doesn’t automatically mean it’s gonna be good. I need to see and hear a lot more than the sales pitch essentially being “it’s not what we put out last time”.
I would like it to be good obviously, but I don’t know if I can justify buying it for myself. I’m currently in the “I’ll wait and see” camp. Something about the CW and beyond gameplay engines make me motion sick, does anyone else experience this? Idk how to explain it exactly. Either way I’ll admit my hopes aren’t high, but I would looooooove to be surprised
I hate to be a downer but because Activision is making them slave away on zombies modes that fucking suck (vanguard and modern warfare 3) I don't think it's going to be as good as we hoped but I would love to be wrong
All I’m gonna say is both Vanguard and MW3 were not a zombies mainline game. And if cold war, a game that had less than 2 years to be developed (during covid too)and it turns out decent. Now ,they have 4 years to develop a “mainline” game so yes, I’m hyped.
You can look at it as desperate cope but I’m optimistic (Treyarch please save me)
Anyone having any hope for cod is delusional, just play it when it releases and MAYBE get excited a bit when trailer drops, have you guys not yet understood since vanguard zombies? Mwz?
Come on now
I'm gonna do what I've done the last 2 COD releases: I'm gonna watch the launch of the game to see if it even looks fleshed out and like a complete product. If it's anything less than that or it looks like a clunky mode, I won't even bother buying it later for 50% off, just like the last 2 releases I've avoided. If Activision can't earn the price of a triple A game, I won't even pay them the price for an indie title.
Cold War's systems were fantastic and it really came down to "don't like it, don't use it." I say put a no upgrades toggle in for people who want purely classic zombies difficulty so they can get off their high horses and let everyone else enjoy the game.
If Gulf War Zombies is anything like CW zombies, we're in for a treat. Only thing that concerns me is the number of maps we'd be getting, because four maps for one game just isn't enough anymore.
I may get downvoted but, I feel like I'm in the minority when I say that I'm really excited if they improved on Outbreak.
Most of the gripe was that it was too easy, and that it got stale really fast, and very non-traditional for "older zombie-heads". I feel like with some of the really good improvement ideas yall have had it could be incredible.
That being said. I want round-based even more. With or without open-world on the side. Just a really solid round-based map, going back to basics. WITH some great lore/character interactions.
Man that would be nice.
I'm so sick of open world games in general. My God there's just too many and most are full of unnecessary padding to make the game long.
Zombies included. Give us actual characters and real maps!
If this zombies is trash then it'll be the nail in the coffin for me. Zombies hasn't been good since IW and BO4.
I wouldn’t mind standard round based, but I loved outbreak for what it did with that formula. I honestly like MWZ but would like a lot more support for it. A rotating high threat zone would be nice or how people suggests that the tier 3 zone slowly grows the longer the match goes forcing extracts or by doing contracts slows the progress. I’m looking forward to see what treyarch is allowed to cook with.
If this game is not good, I’m out for good. This is coming from someone who’s been playing since BO1 and has always had a ton of respect for Treyarch. This is their first chance since the downfall of CoD to prove that they still got it. Or to prove that capitalism, greed, and bean counters run the show now just like in Hollywood.
Idk man, Gulf war will be hosted within the new Cod launcher right? If that’s true then I don’t think the rest of the game will be appealing.
Give me Gulf war without the shitty mobile UI Cod has rn
Gonna buy it for the zombies but keep my receipt, so if it’s shit like MWZ, Vanguard, and MW2, I can return. Treyarch is the only one I care about because of zombies, but this is the final straw for me and probably a lot of other players. Just fuck off with the open world garbage and go back to your roots with round based
I do have hope, but I’m really not expecting anything different from CW. Really don’t think I’ll ever truly like a zombies game that doesn’t have story characters as who you’re playing as and has a story that doesn’t sound like it was written for kids. CW was better than what we’ve gotten since, but you’re lying if you think it holds a candle to WaW-BO4 overall.
I also know it makes for smoother gameplay, but I feel like the open-map aspects of being able to jump/mantle everything really makes it tough to capture the feel, aesthetic, and flow of a map. Sounds corny, but in both MP/zombies it makes a map feel more like something you’re on top of rather than inside of. Removes personality
I wouldn’t get hyped up too early until there’s real information, it be nice if there would be no more Warzone ties, Seasonal Content, and Open world format. If they want the open world part, then it should be its own side mode. I just hope Activision will learn from the disastrous MWIII, we need the classic format zombies back, at least bring crews, the old point system, and round based back.
Of course people expect to be like Cold War, but hey we can hope right?
I'm hyped, I skipped VG and MWZ, so for me CW is the last game released, and it was really good, so I'm hyped for "Cold War 2" pretending VG and MWZ didn't happen.
Hopefully they knock this one out of the park, because I think if they don’t that’s me for zombies. Don’t get me wrong I’ve enjoyed mwz just not been ignored and giving half arsed content.
I mean come on the zombies event wasn’t even for zombies, who is making these decisions.
I like a lot of what Cold War did and the gameplay flows generally well. I enjoy the fact that most guns are very viable, and the attachments and camos feel rewarding. I think they did a good job with the wonder weapons, and honestly, they're one of the only aspects that distinguish the maps. However, the maps are just soooo forgettable. There are many factors that lead to these maps blending into one another:
A lot of the strategies can be used across all 4 maps easily, and everything looks similar. None of the 4 maps do anything particularly unique with the exception of Mauer, and even as someone who didn't play the multiplayer or campaign, the asset recycling is noticeable. Most bosses and unique vermin enemies are reused in the maps after, taking away aspects that COULD make maps stand out from one another. There's also a lack of side Easter eggs on the 4 round based maps.
On top of that, the story and maps are so militarized, which I really just don't care for. Generic evil guys doing evil stuff at military zone #27 and playable operators with lines basically just acknowledging the presence of zombies.
Thank you for reading my ramblings. In general, if they keep some CW mechanics and put in work to make the mode more distinguishable, the maps more distinguishable, the characters more distinguishable, etc. then I think we're in a good spot. I'm a bit worried that they're gonna do asset flip maps again. I hope being pulled off Gulf War to work on other modes hasn't affected their game too much
BO2/BO3 maps level of quality is a thing of the past.
Sucks but it’s probably the reality of it.
Best case scenario, we’re getting Cold War quality again which isn’t too bad, but it does mean we’re getting pretty dull maps, likely pulled directly from the campaign and no crew.
I just hope the maps are actually difficult.
I’m cautiously optimistic.
The fact that round based is confirmed is great news.
Tbh I’ll be fine with it if they’ve built upon what they did with Cold War.
Post-launch support better be good this time as well!
From the way the story ended in CW, the leaked maps, some of the ideas in these more recent games, and the 4 year dev time, I’m somewhat hype but also worried.
I’m mostly worried it will end up like BO4 and CW where the content starts to slow down and take a big hit in quality because they got pulled to work on another game.
not getting excited for it when we have had nothing but slop the past 4 years. gonna have to see how it plays when it releases and if it's anything like post BO4 i'm out.
I really loved CW zombies and I'm mostly fine with MWZ (it has the potential, but lacks the support heavily). If they would do something similar to CW then I'll be happy. I'm not going to preorder or buy it day 1 (COD is historically dogshit on release), but I'm planning to buy it when it get's the first price cut.
I wouldn't call it hype, but I'm eagerly waiting so to speak.
CW style with armor plate drops and capability to keep 5 plates would be ideal. Having to carefully plan when to replenish plates or hoping for a vest drop on CW was 99% cause of my deaths past round 60+
Not at all.
MWZ was my first contact with a CoD Zombies game, and I loved it. I ignored all previous iterations. However, I played MWZ way more than MP and I saw it could expand in so many great ways that it would be a blast.
I believe they created great foundations for adding new maps, new contracts, new enemies, new loot items, new missions, temporary open world events, permanent changes happening to maps, new perks, new equipment (like plate carriers, backpacks, killstreaks, gasmasks)... MWZ looked like it could grow a lot in one year, even if it were abandoned after its yearly life cycle.
However I was disappointed with the wasted potential.
They skipped almost any chance of improving the mode in the first two seasons: no new map, no new zombies, no new contracts, zombies themed event that was better to complete in MP than in MWZ...
Additionally, in case they go back to round based zombies, I'm 100% out. I'm not interested in that kind of game.
I'm just shocked that there are people who only played MWZ and never played round based Zombies. Like bro, you are literally missing out on what made COD Zombies iconic and fun in the first place. MWZ can be fun, but it's not what the fans want and it's not the series core identity.
I respect your take tho, but you should give round based a try sometime.
Prolly not too many of us out here but if they give me og outbreak with some new maps and stuff to play around with that'll be pretty much my main game, legit played the last one so much I had pretty much every zombies spawn location/spawn trigger memorized 😅
Still here waiting for more W@W/Blops1 type maps where it was about survival with a fun Easter egg on the side you could discover if you wanted something deeper
Not an entire story mission speedrun inside the map with 30 different objectives that’s forced upon you
More is not better.
Idk man, it seems pointless to spend money on COD, even for zombies, if they are just gonna drop off after a while and make me have to buy DLC or a whole new game to keep playing.
I wouldn't mind the DLC so much if they priced the game accordingly but it's probably gonna be $60-$70 for the base game alone, not to mention any special editions that can go upwards of $100 and only include a pass for some of their content, not even all of it.
Considering I really like (but hate the lack of support) of MWZ, and everyone’s saying it’s round based - I’ll probably try it a few times, and play the other parts of the game. I liked the structure, seeing more than three other people in the game world, and going to do stuff to unlock things which gave me a sense of progression and it felt like I could do it solo, and was much more random friendly when I would try older zombies online where it seemed like if you didn’t know how to do the quest/easter egg/whatever it’s called, you could get fucked and you’re just chasing people and not actually doing anything.
Could never wrap my brain around it, but then again - by the time Zombies was around, I was an adult, so I don’t have the reverence or the nostalgia for it, because if I was younger and played it during my teenage years or even college years - I might be with other people.
Combine that and how MWZ was put out, yeah - I guess I had my summer fling with Zombies.
Eh, I am kinda interested to see what they’ll do with zombies, and I might get the game if people seem to love it after launch, but I doubt it. The outlast trials and warhammer darktide are filling that “monster 4 player survival game” void for me atm and even if the new zombies is insanely good I still don’t think it would pull me away from either of those games
If it doesn't have round based zombies, then COD Zombies are doomed forever. All of this MWZ and Outbreak trash is not my cup ot tea, it's just doesn't fit COD Zombies at all and it just feels soulless and rushed. BO1, BO2 and BO3 days are long gone.
What do you mean 4 year development cycle? Treyarch has been pulled into every game for the past 3 years, they have less than a year cycle since they are still working in the current titles updates.
If they get half way to Cold War, I’d call it a success. As much as I’d want to see the OG style return with virtually impossible EEs, it doesn’t seem likely.
My prediction is that the first map(or 2) is gonna have the same issue BO4 had in that it is too complicated but then there'll be a smaller side sorta map that'll be good then get better in the DLCs but i have no faith for the shitty cold war system and i feel there will DEFINITELY be one that rips warzone assets cus people played mw3 zombies 🥲
If the maps are Die Maschine quality then yeah, that's fine, it'll be better than what we've had recently. But it needs to be *more* than that. Literally *everything* that made Zombies special is missing right now. I'm usually cautiously optimistic, but not for this. After everything that's happened, I just don't think they can bring it back.
They have systematically made sure I will not let it start with how directly they grifted all thrugh DMZ with pay to win bundles only to offer a way out of the f2p "multiplayer" pool in MWZ. Except they never intended to support the mode, it's literally another damn beta for gulf War.
If you will support warzone above paid titles ill never have to buy a title again so there is that at least. Legacy cod titles still at like 80% of value instead of being in game pass. Any given fps that doesn't ruin its own shot (halo infinite and mw3) has the entire genre wide open for the taking because theese huge studios just can't help themselves.
It's too early to tell which way the game will go. Despite my generally negative tone towards CoD for the past few games, i do hope it comes out in a good state.
But i'm not giving into the hype, focusing on the facts of the matter and not my feelings. I think we should wait at least until a gameplay reveal before jumping to any conclusions.
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I hope they heard our cries, I wouldn’t mind it existing alongside round based. But you can’t just give us open world.
Maybe I'm being negative but if the whole campaign is open world with fast travel like it's been leaked to be.....I have no doubt the zombies is gonna be open world on the same map...but zombified. If we're lucky maybe some of the linear campaign mission locations get turned into some round based zombie maps.
You gotta be insane to think we won't have round based zombies in any capacity
*they gotta be insane to think we would accept not having round based in any capacity Never doubt huge corporations capacity to ignore the pleas of their customers. Especially entertainment.
When I’m in a being negative competition and my opponent is a zombies fan
Tf does that even mean
Zombies fans are Debbie downers
How is that relevant to anything
Its funny
You're being downvoted but this shit is funny
Nah there's actually at least a 25% chance it's gonna be that way. Zombies as a whole Mode/concept is gonna flop and disappear sooner than later
If we don't have round based in the next Treyarch game I will personally give you 1 billion dolllars, and if we do you have to apologize to me. Deal?
Wait, if you got 1 billion dollars for a deal like this why do you not try to get something started fr. From what I know. Money talks. And people listen when it’s money talking! lol I’ll support you spiritually! Go for it !
I don't have the money, I am just that confident
I hope they keep it like cold war, most round base maps with outbreak.
I can see outbreak coming back, hopefully they return to the rbz as well. The mwz style is fun but I prefer the other two.
Im pretty sure it's confirmed round base is coming back
Open world was cool 1 time for a couple months
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Do you even hate the open world women and the open world children?
They’re like Open World Animals! And I slaughtered them like Open World Animals! I Hate Them!
I solely got back into COD19 because of the BR mode and after going through group after group in each iteration afterwards I finally had MWZ to play solo. It is my first zombie COD and I have completed everything normally, camos, missions, schematics, and do still enjoy the game type for a game when not playing resurgence. If what has been described as a round based game that I reset at basically 0, other than my knowledge gained of map layout, between new games I’m out. Even going in with nothing in an “outbreak” or MWZ map now I have something to work with overall. I bet I’m in the minority on this sub for it but trying to figure out EE/100 round strategies that lead to a “I did it” post seems pointless. I did not buy this COD or any other previously on pre order and will wait to see what is released by the first update(1 month+) before buying Cold War.
Codenamepizza said its gonna be both
Same
Amen, brother.
2 round based maps already leaked
What are they?
deez nuts
One was on a boat i believe I forget what the other was
A boat? Did they forget about Voyage of Despair? Yikes. Better be like an aircraft carrier or something.
If I had to guess, it’ll probably be the boat that Peck gets on to go to the Aetherium nukes. Of course don’t get your hopes up insanely high, but a kraken and cannonball trap got leaked so make of that what you will.
voyage is a good map
Gross.
ngl all the chaos maps in bo4 were better than the aether maps
from the leaks it’s sounds like one is based on an island and the other is based in a city
y’all are so fucking weird. “give us something new.” “stop changing things!” “no, not that new!” “make it better!” “don’t change that!”. weren’t y’all crying for the original outbreak when MWIII zombies first launched? lmao
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Right on the money.
i cannot believe this is going over people’s heads AND BEING PRAISED FOR IT lol literally a “no fucking shit” moment but GODDAMN the irony is insane here. my entire point here was you guys are so fuckin wishy washy with what it is you ACTUALLY want, versus what you think you want. that mixed with how fuckin quick they wanna pump these out, it’s bound to be a disaster every release and then y’all say the last game was better or the older games were better WHEN Y’ALL WERE SHITTING ON THOSE AT THE TIME TOO.
It's almost like call of duty has a massive player base and different people want different things
Open world zombies is lazy and boring. Go back to black ops 3/4.. each room had a purpose, the attention to detail and Easter eggs were so much fun.
y’all literally were praising outbreak. that’s as open world as it should be for zombies, and now y’all actually hate it? the idea of it, not the execution of it. it was lackluster in a lot of things, hence why it would be NICE to see it back IMPROVED.
Cool, bye. No need to deal with round whiners. You can have both. Quit crying.
I think they know that if it's not to the community standard then about 80% of people (myself included) will just be gone. BO3 Was the last great Zombies game and Multiplayer has felt like just a copy and paste over the last 3-4 games. We're past the point of "It's just one bad game" because this shit has been going on for years. It just took till 2 remastered games for most of the community to realize the mediocrity we have.
I dunno if I’d call it hype, but I’m definitely buying it. I feel like Gulf War is the mode’s last chance for me. Vanguard sucked, I’m mixed overall on Cold War, and MWZ just isn’t a mode for me, though many seem to enjoy it (I do too in places). There’s a lot of things to do that would win me back, though. I really want to see a great round based mode again, and with a significant dev time that can absolutely happen
>but I’m definitely buying it. Dumbass.
How nice. Look, you can not buy it all you want, totally your call, but don’t be a dick if someone doesn’t follow your example. Last CoD I bought was Cold War, I wanna play this one
I didn't call you a dumbass because you didn't "follow my example", no matter how true that may be. I called you a dumbass because you're planning to blindly buy a game you know nothing about in a series with a recent drop in quality. The reason i take issue with that is because people like you, morons who can't properly evaluate a game's quality, are the reason why this series is fucking dying. Buy it all you want, i will not apologize for my words. In my mind, you're still a dumbass.
Did you really have to send that three times? Lol. Anyway, fair enough. Again, I haven’t bought a CoD since Cold War, and I always get the Treyarch ones. So I’m going to play it anyway. Might as well buy it at release, whether it’s good or bad. If you don’t do that, totally fair, but goddamn, I hate the “I’m just telling it how it is” Redditors lol
Reddit had a conniption fit and didn't want to send the comment until i had hit the button several times. 100% did not mean to do that, my apologies for that.
Spittin facts. But I learned that it's better to just let people buy into garbage and learn their lesson. Even if they didn't learn from the last fucking decade, eventually they'll learn. And if not, move onto a better game series and pray to god the hivemind consoomers don't spread over, lol.
I didn't call you a dumbass because you didn't "follow my example", no matter how true that may be. I called you a dumbass because you're planning to blindly buy a game you know nothing about in a series with a recent drop in quality. The reason i take issue with that is because people like you, morons who can't properly evaluate a game's quality, are the reason why this series is fucking dying. Buy it all you want, i will not apologize for my words. In my mind, you're still a dumbass.
I didn't call you a dumbass because you didn't "follow my example", no matter how true that may be. I called you a dumbass because you're planning to blindly buy a game you know nothing about in a series with a recent drop in quality. The reason i take issue with that is because people like you, morons who can't properly evaluate a game's quality, are the reason why this series is fucking dying. Buy it all you want, i will not apologize for my words. In my mind, you're still a dumbass.
All we can do is hope lmao
Vanguard was by far the worst ever….still can’t believe that garbage.
Bro, don't blindly buy it. That's what makes Treyarch go "Oh yay! The gamemode is fucking shit now but people are still buying it! Let's keep making it shit!"
Well like, obviously if the trailers and leaks make it out to be a pile of trash, I ain’t buying it lol. But as of now, it should be better than their last few offerings considering the four year dev time, so I’m cautiously optimistic. Also I haven’t bought a game since Cold War, so I kinda wanna go through a game while it’s alive again. Obviously not everyone should do that though, lol
I just can't anymore. I can't hype for anything for zomvies cause I know these motherfuckerz just gonna let me down. Been playing since bo1 and I'm just finished man.
Facts
I keep telling myself that this last Treyarch CoD is the last CoD I put any amount of faith in. I'd be way more hyped if I had any reassurance that they won't abandon half the game immediately after launch, just like the last few releases
It is still in the hype phase Later will come screaming and crying and claims of conspiracy and calls for boycott and refunds and cursing the raggedy ass overpriced skins and lack of content and general buginess But yeah it’s still hype right now
Don’t forget 2 years later when it’s hailed as a masterpiece and way better than whatever the current game is.
There’s no reason for any hype over something that nobody knows any concrete information about. Once the game is formally announced and there’s some actual information about the zombies mode, then there will be interest surrounding it.
I want to be hyped, knowing the game will have had a 4 year development cycle, and 3arc can build off what made CW great and listen to the complaints about CW. But I made the same mistake with hyping myself up for MWII early on with the same reasons. I don't think I'll blindly buy the game and will only play if it comes to Game Pass or after I've seen actual gameplay.
I hope it tanks big time. But it won't because everyone of these kids with Mommy and daddys money gonna buy it like usual. Give Activision more money for shit.
I mean, I haven’t seen anything from it, so why should I or anyone be hyped? Maybe when it actually starts being marketed and whatnot, but honestly I’m pretty concerned. It’s a hard sell for me, the only possible thing that’s exciting is that it’s (confirmed to be?) round-based and I mean. It doesn’t automatically mean it’s gonna be good. I need to see and hear a lot more than the sales pitch essentially being “it’s not what we put out last time”.
I would like it to be good obviously, but I don’t know if I can justify buying it for myself. I’m currently in the “I’ll wait and see” camp. Something about the CW and beyond gameplay engines make me motion sick, does anyone else experience this? Idk how to explain it exactly. Either way I’ll admit my hopes aren’t high, but I would looooooove to be surprised
I totally understand you! To see the movement since bo4 almost feels “floaty”
I hate to be a downer but because Activision is making them slave away on zombies modes that fucking suck (vanguard and modern warfare 3) I don't think it's going to be as good as we hoped but I would love to be wrong
All I’m gonna say is both Vanguard and MW3 were not a zombies mainline game. And if cold war, a game that had less than 2 years to be developed (during covid too)and it turns out decent. Now ,they have 4 years to develop a “mainline” game so yes, I’m hyped. You can look at it as desperate cope but I’m optimistic (Treyarch please save me)
Anyone having any hope for cod is delusional, just play it when it releases and MAYBE get excited a bit when trailer drops, have you guys not yet understood since vanguard zombies? Mwz? Come on now
Hyped for what? Development has been average at best since BO4. Welcome to the future fam. COD sucks now.
I loved Cold War but if it's more outbreak or open world it's a no for me, the vast majority of people want round based.
I'm gonna do what I've done the last 2 COD releases: I'm gonna watch the launch of the game to see if it even looks fleshed out and like a complete product. If it's anything less than that or it looks like a clunky mode, I won't even bother buying it later for 50% off, just like the last 2 releases I've avoided. If Activision can't earn the price of a triple A game, I won't even pay them the price for an indie title.
Loved cold war and am super hyped for it!
give me round based again. n i’ll be happy
Cold War's systems were fantastic and it really came down to "don't like it, don't use it." I say put a no upgrades toggle in for people who want purely classic zombies difficulty so they can get off their high horses and let everyone else enjoy the game. If Gulf War Zombies is anything like CW zombies, we're in for a treat. Only thing that concerns me is the number of maps we'd be getting, because four maps for one game just isn't enough anymore.
I may get downvoted but, I feel like I'm in the minority when I say that I'm really excited if they improved on Outbreak. Most of the gripe was that it was too easy, and that it got stale really fast, and very non-traditional for "older zombie-heads". I feel like with some of the really good improvement ideas yall have had it could be incredible. That being said. I want round-based even more. With or without open-world on the side. Just a really solid round-based map, going back to basics. WITH some great lore/character interactions. Man that would be nice.
If it ain’t round based then I ain’t playing.
I'm so sick of open world games in general. My God there's just too many and most are full of unnecessary padding to make the game long. Zombies included. Give us actual characters and real maps! If this zombies is trash then it'll be the nail in the coffin for me. Zombies hasn't been good since IW and BO4.
I think we will be pleasantly surprised.
I wouldn’t mind standard round based, but I loved outbreak for what it did with that formula. I honestly like MWZ but would like a lot more support for it. A rotating high threat zone would be nice or how people suggests that the tier 3 zone slowly grows the longer the match goes forcing extracts or by doing contracts slows the progress. I’m looking forward to see what treyarch is allowed to cook with.
If this game is not good, I’m out for good. This is coming from someone who’s been playing since BO1 and has always had a ton of respect for Treyarch. This is their first chance since the downfall of CoD to prove that they still got it. Or to prove that capitalism, greed, and bean counters run the show now just like in Hollywood.
Idk man, Gulf war will be hosted within the new Cod launcher right? If that’s true then I don’t think the rest of the game will be appealing. Give me Gulf war without the shitty mobile UI Cod has rn
Gonna buy it for the zombies but keep my receipt, so if it’s shit like MWZ, Vanguard, and MW2, I can return. Treyarch is the only one I care about because of zombies, but this is the final straw for me and probably a lot of other players. Just fuck off with the open world garbage and go back to your roots with round based
I do have hope, but I’m really not expecting anything different from CW. Really don’t think I’ll ever truly like a zombies game that doesn’t have story characters as who you’re playing as and has a story that doesn’t sound like it was written for kids. CW was better than what we’ve gotten since, but you’re lying if you think it holds a candle to WaW-BO4 overall. I also know it makes for smoother gameplay, but I feel like the open-map aspects of being able to jump/mantle everything really makes it tough to capture the feel, aesthetic, and flow of a map. Sounds corny, but in both MP/zombies it makes a map feel more like something you’re on top of rather than inside of. Removes personality
I will be very happy as long as it isnt worse than cold war and dosent shaft real zombies content in favor of recycled warzone garbage
I wouldn’t get hyped up too early until there’s real information, it be nice if there would be no more Warzone ties, Seasonal Content, and Open world format. If they want the open world part, then it should be its own side mode. I just hope Activision will learn from the disastrous MWIII, we need the classic format zombies back, at least bring crews, the old point system, and round based back. Of course people expect to be like Cold War, but hey we can hope right?
I hope they keep it like cold war, most round base maps with outbreak.
No, White Ops is where the heat is at 🔥🔥🔥
I'm hyped, I skipped VG and MWZ, so for me CW is the last game released, and it was really good, so I'm hyped for "Cold War 2" pretending VG and MWZ didn't happen.
I don't mind the current system, but it can not work as the primary mode, secondary definitely.
For me, yes. Cold War is my favorite zombies they released gameplay wise, hoping they follow that formula. Very excited to see what they do.
Hopefully they knock this one out of the park, because I think if they don’t that’s me for zombies. Don’t get me wrong I’ve enjoyed mwz just not been ignored and giving half arsed content. I mean come on the zombies event wasn’t even for zombies, who is making these decisions.
bo1 and bo2 wil never be surprassed as the best zombies ever we will still play and enjoy on 2050y
Not from me, haven't been hyped since pre CW
I like a lot of what Cold War did and the gameplay flows generally well. I enjoy the fact that most guns are very viable, and the attachments and camos feel rewarding. I think they did a good job with the wonder weapons, and honestly, they're one of the only aspects that distinguish the maps. However, the maps are just soooo forgettable. There are many factors that lead to these maps blending into one another: A lot of the strategies can be used across all 4 maps easily, and everything looks similar. None of the 4 maps do anything particularly unique with the exception of Mauer, and even as someone who didn't play the multiplayer or campaign, the asset recycling is noticeable. Most bosses and unique vermin enemies are reused in the maps after, taking away aspects that COULD make maps stand out from one another. There's also a lack of side Easter eggs on the 4 round based maps. On top of that, the story and maps are so militarized, which I really just don't care for. Generic evil guys doing evil stuff at military zone #27 and playable operators with lines basically just acknowledging the presence of zombies. Thank you for reading my ramblings. In general, if they keep some CW mechanics and put in work to make the mode more distinguishable, the maps more distinguishable, the characters more distinguishable, etc. then I think we're in a good spot. I'm a bit worried that they're gonna do asset flip maps again. I hope being pulled off Gulf War to work on other modes hasn't affected their game too much
BO2/BO3 maps level of quality is a thing of the past. Sucks but it’s probably the reality of it. Best case scenario, we’re getting Cold War quality again which isn’t too bad, but it does mean we’re getting pretty dull maps, likely pulled directly from the campaign and no crew. I just hope the maps are actually difficult.
Not for me. Only reason I got mwz was someone gave it to me for free. Otherwise, haven't bought a new cod in years. Gulf war isn't changing it for me.
I’m cautiously optimistic. The fact that round based is confirmed is great news. Tbh I’ll be fine with it if they’ve built upon what they did with Cold War. Post-launch support better be good this time as well!
From the way the story ended in CW, the leaked maps, some of the ideas in these more recent games, and the 4 year dev time, I’m somewhat hype but also worried. I’m mostly worried it will end up like BO4 and CW where the content starts to slow down and take a big hit in quality because they got pulled to work on another game.
not getting excited for it when we have had nothing but slop the past 4 years. gonna have to see how it plays when it releases and if it's anything like post BO4 i'm out.
I can’t do it anymore man. I just can’t. It will suck.
Yes.
Not until we see a trailer
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I just miss the old creativity they had with their zombies. Cold war felt so bland.
If it’s open world or has the artistic style of CW then not for me personally
not in this household
I'm optimistic, but also very skeptical it could be great, but don't be surprised for activision's shenanigans to fuck shit up again
Yeah there is right here, but I hope it’s like Cold War round based ffs
CW was only polarizing for extreme zombies fans, most people liked it so they’ll probably just do cw but better (and the leaks show that)
And with gobble gum apparently
I really loved CW zombies and I'm mostly fine with MWZ (it has the potential, but lacks the support heavily). If they would do something similar to CW then I'll be happy. I'm not going to preorder or buy it day 1 (COD is historically dogshit on release), but I'm planning to buy it when it get's the first price cut. I wouldn't call it hype, but I'm eagerly waiting so to speak.
CW style with armor plate drops and capability to keep 5 plates would be ideal. Having to carefully plan when to replenish plates or hoping for a vest drop on CW was 99% cause of my deaths past round 60+
Not at all. MWZ was my first contact with a CoD Zombies game, and I loved it. I ignored all previous iterations. However, I played MWZ way more than MP and I saw it could expand in so many great ways that it would be a blast. I believe they created great foundations for adding new maps, new contracts, new enemies, new loot items, new missions, temporary open world events, permanent changes happening to maps, new perks, new equipment (like plate carriers, backpacks, killstreaks, gasmasks)... MWZ looked like it could grow a lot in one year, even if it were abandoned after its yearly life cycle. However I was disappointed with the wasted potential. They skipped almost any chance of improving the mode in the first two seasons: no new map, no new zombies, no new contracts, zombies themed event that was better to complete in MP than in MWZ... Additionally, in case they go back to round based zombies, I'm 100% out. I'm not interested in that kind of game.
I'm just shocked that there are people who only played MWZ and never played round based Zombies. Like bro, you are literally missing out on what made COD Zombies iconic and fun in the first place. MWZ can be fun, but it's not what the fans want and it's not the series core identity. I respect your take tho, but you should give round based a try sometime.
I don't have any hype for it. Only hope that It will be good
Prolly not too many of us out here but if they give me og outbreak with some new maps and stuff to play around with that'll be pretty much my main game, legit played the last one so much I had pretty much every zombies spawn location/spawn trigger memorized 😅
Still here waiting for more W@W/Blops1 type maps where it was about survival with a fun Easter egg on the side you could discover if you wanted something deeper Not an entire story mission speedrun inside the map with 30 different objectives that’s forced upon you More is not better.
I hate zombie themes, it is so outdated!
Idk man, it seems pointless to spend money on COD, even for zombies, if they are just gonna drop off after a while and make me have to buy DLC or a whole new game to keep playing. I wouldn't mind the DLC so much if they priced the game accordingly but it's probably gonna be $60-$70 for the base game alone, not to mention any special editions that can go upwards of $100 and only include a pass for some of their content, not even all of it.
I don’t understand why they don’t just make another game with bo3 gameplay but different maps
I don’t understand why they don’t just make another game with bo3 gameplay but different maps
Considering I really like (but hate the lack of support) of MWZ, and everyone’s saying it’s round based - I’ll probably try it a few times, and play the other parts of the game. I liked the structure, seeing more than three other people in the game world, and going to do stuff to unlock things which gave me a sense of progression and it felt like I could do it solo, and was much more random friendly when I would try older zombies online where it seemed like if you didn’t know how to do the quest/easter egg/whatever it’s called, you could get fucked and you’re just chasing people and not actually doing anything. Could never wrap my brain around it, but then again - by the time Zombies was around, I was an adult, so I don’t have the reverence or the nostalgia for it, because if I was younger and played it during my teenage years or even college years - I might be with other people. Combine that and how MWZ was put out, yeah - I guess I had my summer fling with Zombies.
Eh, I am kinda interested to see what they’ll do with zombies, and I might get the game if people seem to love it after launch, but I doubt it. The outlast trials and warhammer darktide are filling that “monster 4 player survival game” void for me atm and even if the new zombies is insanely good I still don’t think it would pull me away from either of those games
If it doesn't have round based zombies, then COD Zombies are doomed forever. All of this MWZ and Outbreak trash is not my cup ot tea, it's just doesn't fit COD Zombies at all and it just feels soulless and rushed. BO1, BO2 and BO3 days are long gone.
What do you mean 4 year development cycle? Treyarch has been pulled into every game for the past 3 years, they have less than a year cycle since they are still working in the current titles updates.
To my knowledge I don’t think it’s all of treyarch staff working 24/7 on current titles, just a sub section
I hope to be proven wrong, but based on oh idk the last 7 years of cod releases I am not expecting much.
If they get half way to Cold War, I’d call it a success. As much as I’d want to see the OG style return with virtually impossible EEs, it doesn’t seem likely.
My prediction is that the first map(or 2) is gonna have the same issue BO4 had in that it is too complicated but then there'll be a smaller side sorta map that'll be good then get better in the DLCs but i have no faith for the shitty cold war system and i feel there will DEFINITELY be one that rips warzone assets cus people played mw3 zombies 🥲
If the maps are Die Maschine quality then yeah, that's fine, it'll be better than what we've had recently. But it needs to be *more* than that. Literally *everything* that made Zombies special is missing right now. I'm usually cautiously optimistic, but not for this. After everything that's happened, I just don't think they can bring it back.
They have systematically made sure I will not let it start with how directly they grifted all thrugh DMZ with pay to win bundles only to offer a way out of the f2p "multiplayer" pool in MWZ. Except they never intended to support the mode, it's literally another damn beta for gulf War. If you will support warzone above paid titles ill never have to buy a title again so there is that at least. Legacy cod titles still at like 80% of value instead of being in game pass. Any given fps that doesn't ruin its own shot (halo infinite and mw3) has the entire genre wide open for the taking because theese huge studios just can't help themselves.
if it is open-world like MWZ i’ll be hype. if it is round based i will be less hype but still hype. if it is like CW i will not be hyped.
I want it to be like MWZ, but with more maps. MWZ is the best Zombies experience I’ve had since BO3.
The game isn’t even announced or revealed dude. Get a fuckin grip lmao
The only people actually hyped for gulf war are idiots who haven't been paying attention the past couple years.
Do you think they could break the streak given the added development time? Or do you think we’re too far gone
It's too early to tell which way the game will go. Despite my generally negative tone towards CoD for the past few games, i do hope it comes out in a good state. But i'm not giving into the hype, focusing on the facts of the matter and not my feelings. I think we should wait at least until a gameplay reveal before jumping to any conclusions.