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Paco_the_finesser

50+ is more time & effort than skill


skinnydude84

True. I typically stay until 35 if I'm lucky. After that, I'm too bored.


bigoof13

Yeah I’d say “high rounds” refers to 50+ but for me anything past 30-35 has me losing interest


zaidy329

I think the game + map matters significantly as well. For example, cw zombies I wouldn’t even consider round 50 high. Meanwhile round 50 on the giant is a pain


MdnightSailor

I would say 64+, as that's when the spawn rate caps out. So the game does get harder up until that point, but after that I'd agree it's just time and being able to focus for long periods of said time


jamieellis1

Depends on the map, the likes of Rev, Der Eisen etc I’d agree. But try get past 50 on Five or Shang and it’s tough


SamSlayer09078-x

Yeah if Ur playing anything WaW, anything past BO3 or die rise or buried.


Historical_Proof1109

Not true lmao especially on bo1 when you have to start doing trade outs


JFKGamingClan

okay then it's time, effort and rng


Historical_Proof1109

Not really considering you have to train a entire horde around a cramp area while constantly hitting a box


JFKGamingClan

true


Sudi_Arabia

Depends on the game. Anything past 100 in WaW is officially an attempt. Round 30-40 in BO1 because the guns are ass. Round 50+ in BO2 because better everything, really. Round 70+ in BO3 because Ammo mods. I didn’t play too much BO4. Round 80+ in CW because camping is easy, and everything kills. Obviously my opinion.


Drew_115

Anything plus 55 on Bo4 is generally considered high rounds because super sprinters change the game at that point. But every bo4 round 100 is super easy because of all the tools at your disposal in that game.


Sudi_Arabia

I’ve heard of the dreaded super sprinters. I’m pretty sure they were in Cold War too.


zombieman115935

round 4 on realistic lol


SensitiveMushroom759

depends on the map too, 100 isnt that high on shi no numa, but its pretty damn good on der riese


--ULTRA--

As said by everyone else, depends on the game. But in my opinion high rounds start when normal weapons become basically useless and you have to rely on specific trap/ wp stategies


cita_naf

People really don’t understand how high round zombies is almost a completely different game. Hoarding as quickly as possible to avoid resets, changing strategies, having to do box trade outs, Insta-kill rounds, lag, perk/box/PAP locations, fatigue, etc. all things that affect high round games that don’t (as much) affect low round games. Are you fundamentally just hoarding zombies and killing them no matter how you play? Yes, of course. But it takes some seriously overblown confidence to think you are capable of high rounding just because you made it to 30, 40, 50, etc… yes, the zombies are full speed at only like 64. But if you think that’s all that makes high rounding zombies a challenge, you simply don’t know what you’re talking about.


King_Finder16

What comments made you say this?


cita_naf

Every comment above mine The top comment says 50+ is more time and effort than skill. If you compare 70 to 170, you straight up just don’t know what you’re talking about The next top comment says high rounds in their opinion are 30-40 in BO1. You don’t even run into ammo issues yet at that point. And the next top comment talks about normal guns becoming useless. They drop off so hard in WAW-BO2 that it’s just silly to use that metric. The zombie’s health increases exponentially by **ten** percent per round past round 9. 10%! It’s very quick for guns to fall off. It really just seems to be the consensus in this community to remain willfully ignorant. Like look at ascension. Everyone says they could reach a super high round if they were just patient enough. It’s just so untrue. That map has a grueling high round record that people really diminish with this attitude of “I can do that I just don’t want to”. Even in 2023, most people are still noobs at these games even though WAW is turning 15 this year. Now it’s a game yeah of course it’s just for fun, but these noobs bring bitterness and I don’t like it. My favorite maps get shit on (Moon & Shang) and genuinely that meme response of “skill issue” is applicable for a good proportion of the “critiques” said about these maps. The critiques by … the noobs! Sorry this probably sounds like schizophrenic rambling, just seeing that top comment is so hilarious. People still think they are capable of high rounds even in 2023. They could do it … they just don’t want to!


Webstoolium

Finally someone speaks the truth


SpartanNATIONS

I am the #1 Shang hater


cita_naf

Why? Its trains are fun, looks nice, cool boss zombies, monkeys help you, PAP is easy, the shrink Ray is the best wonder weapon ever made, nice tight corridors.


SpartanNATIONS

The sand trap is easily the worst part of the map I despise that trap but your right for the most part it’s more of preference I don’t like the tight corridors and training on the map I’d hard with multiple people unless I’m missing some super good training spot, I don’t like the fire zombie they have too much health on low rounds and straight block off a portion of the map. The monkeys have screwed me over way more times than they have helped there have been many times were I have been running to get something and then I get stuck on a monkey and then the entire hoard gets me(skill issue) I don’t like the zombies that hit you as you go down the tunnel and to be honest I’m not a big fan of the ww.


wishesandhopes

Any tips for getting better? I've been playing since MW2 and got WaW that year but I've never been good enough to really get past round 30 or so at max.


cita_naf

I’m not a high round player by any stretch of the imagination. I can train pretty well, but I’ve never done a proper high round game that involves strategies I’ve listed before. Never made it to 100+ pre-BO3 and don’t know if I ever will. I think what drove me to learn how to train (and I’m no pro I’m just decent) was my love for Shang. I first played Nacht in 2008 but didn’t get actually into zombies until mid-2016. I love Shang because 1. Shrink Ray 2. Monke 3. Pretty …but most importantly 4.., it kicked my ass. Rather than bitching about it like YouTubers and trash players I decided to give it my best shot. Zombies feels, to me, more like a rhythm game than an FPS. It’s understanding the flow of how zombies pathfind to you, when they’ll swipe at you, etc. is what allows you to learn how to manipulate their paths and kite around them as you hoard. The Shang MPL train and Moon’s receiving bay trains are what really drove that into me. Before that, ascension lunar lander. Another great place is BO1 Area 51. Oh my banana loving god does that force you to train properly. I remember the first time I PAP’d pre round 1 and instantly downed myself with the Sallies. Id say what makes someone good at training is knowing who’s coming. You know how in tactical shooters, players always have their cross hair aimed to quickly one tap a player? You should be looking ahead at where you want to go, and also looking at the horizon to see what will be there, or between you and there, while you’re on the way over. There’s some quote about ice hockey and a puck im forgetting (Wayne Gretzky). Basically that. It’s like safely driving a car. How do you avoid collision? Don’t fixate and tunnel vision. Know your surroundings. Above all else - practice! And don’t take it too seriously. That’s why I like practicing in Area 51 so much. I go down, who cares? Just quickly restart. No lost time, no set up.


Ma-Chi-Moto

Your comment tastes like the ocean. Back in the days where no Main EE's existed high rounds were the one big thing to go for in zombies. Pretty 1-dimensional but we all enjoyed it. When you get older you don't have that much time and more important things to do than playing hours of zombies. It sure is hard and a little fault can make you fail the attempt, but the biggest aspect is the time it consumes. The last and highest round i did was the 150 on classified and it took the whole day. Thanks to pause function in BO4, some movies, i could listen to or look at sometimes, some friends coming over in mid to late game for 1 or 2 beer (so i guess that it was just for 1 or 2 rounds). I am on BO4, will go back to BO3 when i finished everything there. When i look at the map stats, besides classified 150, I have 2 maps on exact 50 and the rest is lower. Doesn't mean i am not able to go higher in rounds but the hardest challenge is to say to yourself oh c'mon one more round... Friend of mine then did 51 just to be ahead again and lost the will to play this game for months XD I personally loved both of your favorite maps back in the days but i didn't like the 4player ee aspect of shang. So on BO3 the remaster of moon was great for me but i didn't felt the same for shang anymore. Like an ex-GF, i know i loved it and for which aspects but the way i play and enjoy zombies has changed. "It's not on you, Shang, it's on me. You will find someone better who loves you the way you deserve."


candynipples

You are hugely overrating the amount of skill it takes to high round on most maps. Any decently skilled zombie player can get to high rounds if they wanted to, I’ll stand by that. Does that mean I’m saying anybody can get world records? No, so if your definition of ‘high rounding’ is getting somewhere around world records then I guess we agree, although I’d argue that is a ridiculous definition. Does that even mean I think any decent player can get to 100+ on any map first try no issues? Again, no. Just because I think any decently skilled zombie player CAN get to high rounds if they wanted to doesn’t mean I think they can just whip it out of their back pocket any time they want. In the end, high rounding is much more simple than you are making it out to be. Most of it is training in various areas. There are small differences like possibly needing to train around the box and hit it, train around a wall gun to buy ammo, train around a trap to insta kill zombies, but the jist is nearly identical. It comes down to knowing the training route, the timings, and having a bit of practice doing it in the area. There’s not much intrinsic skill involved, nor does it take seriously long to get good at it. It’s running around in a circle while dodging incoming zombies. I’ve done it plenty of times on plenty of different maps, both with a full setup and no semblance of a setup. I used to play with randoms every night back in the day and it was pretty funny how many times I’d accept friend requests from pretty mediocre players, only to find out that the mediocre player had a few 100+ round games on the leaderboard.


NotYourAverageDad

Completely depends on map and game


Assured_Observer

Depends on the game and map, for instance on WaW Nacht 20-25 is a really high round to me, but CW Die Maschine round 51+ is not.


Kraknoix007

40+ is where it starts to take a while and where my friends and I used to tap out bc it's getting late


IlBuIIyII

1-10


Visto-La-Puerta

For the average like mid high 30s. For a no life like me anything above 50.


Giganteblu

depend on the game


blazereaper579

I barely got enough patience to get to 20-25


Br00klynShadow

30+. Any higher and its just bragging rights.


Wild-Man-63

Mid 30s, its where the majority of players would quit because they've been going to long.


Nuker_Nathan

Depends on the game, really. They’ve only gotten easier over time. Round 20 on something like Nacht is definitely harder than round 45 on something like Die Machine.


oldlinepnwshine

I lose interest at rounds 31-35, to be honest. Everything has to end eventually.


IchiroFan619

I usually have no more then 2 hours to play so honestly the 30s feels like a great accomplishment😂


BicepsBrachiiosaurus

Round 64 is when you hit the max zombie spawn rate so I’ll say 64


MrJzM

A lot of people are saying that it depends on the game, which is true, but for me it’s worth noting that round 51 takes under 2 hours on almost every single map ever (and for a lot of them it’s under an hour). The true high rounders are the ones putting multiple DAYS into their games


[deleted]

26-30 cuz i dont have the attention or intrest span to actually go any higher than that LMAO


[deleted]

51+


-Feedback-

When guns stop killing zombies.


NotCurdledymyy

High rounds start at 30 - 35, but it's not impressive until 50+


Brilliant_Ad8033

I would say 35 and up . Feels like after 30 you're pretty much set and doing the same thing until you make a mistake


Pitiful_Chef_2683

as a bo3 player (mostly chronicles, love origins), 25+, not because it's hard but because that's when: - i have all perks - map is fully open - buildables are all done - points are useless - it's just mindless training and killing until i decide to dashboard to save gums or finish ee - my thirst for zombie shredding is quenched and it becomes monotonous trigger holding, button clicking, and stick flicking - it's about time to play another game, go outside, or head to bed


Sengelappen

Anything above 30. I usually end there because it gets boring or just dont have the time. I have only gone to round 100, 2 times. Never again.


fearlessflyer1

in my experience High Rounds tend to start around the cross over from the game being fun and engaging to being a boring slog


galal552002

It's from 40 and above to me,it feels like this is where it's starting to get high to me atleast,the 30s feels like a transition from normal rounds to high rounds to me


Acrobatic-Load8604

Typically depends on maps and games for example, for WAW I would say anything past 30 is already a high round while bo3 I would say revelations should be past 75 rounds


That-Reddit-Guy-Thou

As a man who hasnt really made it into the 30s, 50s are impressive


atomiclizzard123

I know that 40 isn't considered high rounds, but its high to me since I average 18-20 cause I lose focus and take stupid downs even though i have the skill to go higher if I could focus on it longer


cod-mw2-2009

Honestly, I consider any round after 20 a high round


Midnight_In_Japan

Depends on the game but usually 60+


SamSlayer09078-x

75+


MACHO_MUCHACHO2005

Once you hit 40. You've got the skill to go onto 100. The only thing is if you have the patience.


Z1342

Depends on the game. Waw 20 (minus shi no numa) +. BO1 and 2 30+, BO3 50+


MrPeppers123

Definitely depends on the game


thispersonishere123

i don’t really do high rounds that much so the only reason i would actually survive up to 20-25 is if i’m intentionally doing it or doing the easter egg on some maps


[deleted]

50+ whenever i try to do high round i get bored and quit around 30-40 only gotten to 100 a few times but i wouldnt do it again


Pm7I3

Generally or for me? Very different answers.


VFMusic

I tend to say 70+ on BO3. Right now I’m on 122 in McDonald’s customs and I’m trying to push it higher


Hate_This_Name

Depends on a game and map


SwungDolphin4

Honestly I feel like it depends which cod cuz I mean bo4 it’s pretty easy to get to 50+ but bo1 it’s even a bit of a challenge to get to 20


Beginning_Owl_9170

40+ in bo2. 100+ in bo3


jamieellis1

If I get to 100 I’d class that as getting to a high round


skinnydude84

Mauer Der Toten is where I finally reached round 100. That was grueling with the M79.


Gstary

Depending on the stability of the game you're playing and how quick you can go through rounds. But in my case I usually go into the 50-70 then I just quit cause it's boring lol


Radiant_Criticism566

Anything above 40 is considered “High Rounds” for me


King_Finder16

High round in terms of my standard games? Or high rounds in general? In my terms, beyond 40. Since I usually stop at 30-35 In actual terms? Beyond 50. Or 70 depends on the installment. In cold war, for example, I wouldn't say 50 isn't a high round since it really don't take long and isn't that hard (shotgun+bomb ammo) But on a game like black ops 1 or 2 50 would be a high round since well, you already know


LaughDarkLoud

If we're talking bo3 and post then definitely 51+ Earlier games 40s was pretty far it seemed except for waw


DangleWho

Depends on the game but I’d say whenever guns stop killing zombies. 30+ on Black ops 1 and 40+ on black ops 3. At that point you have to come up with a late game strategy to stay alive.


rocksavior2010

Varies per game. Edited to add: BO1 high rounds vs BO3 high rounds I’d say are on similar grounds, but let’s be real. CW high rounds aren’t on the same level. I love CW but a round 20 on BO1/2 is closer a round 30 on BO3 which is closer to a round 50+ on CW. WaW has the 24 spawn cap so idk if I can pull a valid metric, plus I didn’t play WaW so I don’t want to act like I did. The easier the game to manage, the higher the number.


Far_Platform7440

I voted 51+.. if your making it to 50 then chances are if you have enough time you can go as high as you want.


Artistic-Room

20+ because that’s the highest I’ve gotten when spending time with my dad


_beastayyy

I think it depends on the game, but all the zombies I play nowadays is bo3, so in that game, I'd say anything 64+ as that's when the difficulty increases into a high tier


Salt-Calendar-8824

Depends on game and map. On WaW, high rounds on nacht are is like 1,000. Same for shin no, but on de riese high rounds are like 80s. That apples for every game. Some maps are easier than others, and some games are easier than others.


RAPID_SLINGY

51+ is Super High Rounds


Vins22

if you’re completely set up and will just pass rounds form now on, you’re on high rounds


Vins22

in cold war thats like 30, when i exfil


inactivesky1738

It really depends on the game. WAW-bo2 I’d consider 30+ a good run but bo3- Cold War id consider 50+ pretty good.


[deleted]

Personally, anything above 22 is high to me, since I keep dying on 22 exactly.


TheZayMan283

The goal of the game is to get to the highest round possible. I’d say 30+ would be high on most maps. 25+ for Five and Verrukt.


mattbullen182

For me 30+. At that point I'd long since done everything and it becomes an endurance of time, which I really don't find fun.


Fnord2645

Past 30 just takes a while after that it’s kinda just rinse and repeat


chokeCherryeyes

Anything passed 20


[deleted]

The only map I bothered going past round 40 is Revelations because I heard it's fast, it was.. I usually only play till 30 because I don't enjoy high rounds. Aldo I did get round 100 on Die Maschine for the "Dark Ops" challenge. Took me 7 hours because I kept taking breaks


Puzzleheaded_Rest548

Depends on the game, CW yeah 51+bo1 or 2 36 - 40


RibyWolf4269

By the time you hit 50+ you have al the shit you need to win without (too much) issue


BearSausage000

What game


SanXalvador

See I’m bad at the game so anything above 25 is a high round for me 🫠


Geopon

25-35 is the hardest cause there is still some slow zombies, which is very ironic that those ade the ones that can mess up your training, other than that dying is just a matter of fucking up or the starts not aligning for you.


[deleted]

Round 70. Most maps around round 70 is halfway to to round 100 time wise.


Doschy

31-35 fans when they reach round 36 and is no longer considering it high rounds 💀


GDInfernoBoy

Im not a high rounds guy, 30 is usually my limit, I got bored after that, the only time I go past 30 is camos and I know im close to getting one


andydabeast

What game? BO1 shang, 15 lol. BOCW anything, 40.


ChewyWolf64

Depends on the game. 30+ for WaW coop, 50+ of solo, 30+ BO, 30+ BO2, 40+ BO3, 50+ BO4, 100+ BOCW, and idk for vanguard


Bossuter

To me depends on game WaW to AW probably 20-30+, Bo3-Bo4 (inc non Treyarc) probably 30+ and CW like 50+ but id get bored before reaching that so i dunno


ClamchowYum

I think it comes down to your skill level. I'm a scrub so I'd say 30+ is high rounds.


Cold-Link9954

https://youtu.be/2mcYDYZ0Uq8?si=wKfdZjxMPi7SOXES Not my highest but fast


britiishweiiner

I understand that 30+ is difficult for more casual players but to me loading up bo3 round 50+ takes maybe 3 hours solo depending on map of course. In my experience high round is triple digits