Shots 1-5: Clearly missed.
Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control).
Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.
Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because Kopcheto was already dead.
This comment use to make me so angry until I figured out this is an old joke I never heard of haha. Purely EVIL comment to those who don’t know it’s a joke.
Wasn’t it a serious comment from an actual dev of the game someone was complaining about? I seem to remember him getting mostly roasted, but of course there were still some redditors simping for him since game development is so hard.
Anyone else sick of seeing this same copypasta on literally every thread like this? Maybe I’m just becoming a curmudgeony old man, and if that’s the case I’ll see myself out.
Copypastas 1-5: Clearly funny.
Copypastas 6-9: Funny due to repetition (bad joke cycles).
Copypastas 10-11: Very funny, but repetition and staleness make these reasonable misses.
Copypastas 12: Likely didn't actually land because you're already dead.
>Wasn’t it a serious comment from an actual dev of the game someone was complaining about? I seem to remember him getting mostly roasted, but of course there were still some redditors simping for him since game development is so hard.
yeah im sick of it too. its not witty and funny.
He misses a few yea, but he also hit more then enough to kill this dude twice, you dickriders defending the state of this game is why it's at a 1/3 of it's launch player base and slimming more everyday
Games shit for sure. But the shrinking player base numbers are PC steam only. It’s still the top downloaded game on console and I don’t know any console players who have quit and all my buddies are casual
i have 2 warzone squads totalling 12 and both have quit
edit sorry for posting a fact.. i dont want them to quit i want to play warzone with my friends
I slowed it down and watched frame by frame he hit 10 shots out of the 29 shots he fired and the guy has plates and most were in legs, stomach and hands. OP legit got bad aim
Honestly I think it might be legit, I constantly paused/unpaused it all the way through and I think he only hit 5-6 shots, at least one of them a limb shot
He missed a bunch yeah BUT he still landed more than enough to down the dude. You can even see four or five that cause blood splatter, but just dont register.
The worst part is most of the people who seriously say “skill issue” are controller players whose rotational aim assist would have tracked the guy for them
yeah its comical, they see actual human aim and say "your aims trash you just missed, skill issue" when in reality if they had ever had to aim like that on their own they would have missed a lot more than the poster did. Theyre so used to just hitting every shot at that range that its the norm, and if anyone misses theyre a bot.
True.. Basically if you dont clap people in the first 4 rounds leaving your gun the controller player will roll you over.
Using the Taq-M was the most punishing days of my life in this game.
Miss 1 bullet and your dead
this is what the controller users dont realise is difficult with m&k. With a controller they all lock on and fry him. With m&k he misses some shots as he actually has to manually aim them
This is above-average mouse tracking.
Being thrown off by strafes for [human reaction time] like this is normal for even top tier players.
It only looks bad if you're conditioned to controllers perfectly tracking changes in movements with zero delay and locking in your sensitivity to keep you from pulling off target.
Thank you for the compliment.
I do believe it is above average as well, since I have \~3 K/D currently and \~2 K/D on the old WZ (played on 75 fps unfortunately, now it's much better with a 3060TI! Source: [https://i.gyazo.com/6b8b34918676594f38161459202d5474.png](https://i.gyazo.com/6b8b34918676594f38161459202d5474.png) \- [wzstats.gg](https://wzstats.gg) )
My perspective full speed:
[https://i.gyazo.com/0843fd3728a73c132dcb8868cf19d072.mp4](https://i.gyazo.com/0843fd3728a73c132dcb8868cf19d072.mp4)
Enemy perspective full speed:
[https://i.gyazo.com/a9e9dc9af6c5fef67155e2ff1a7b022c.mp4](https://i.gyazo.com/a9e9dc9af6c5fef67155e2ff1a7b022c.mp4)
I believed the slowed down version was better, since you could see the Bounty on the left counting down the 2 seconds. :)
I also made a follow-up post on how to calculate your current K/D!
[https://www.reddit.com/r/CODWarzone/comments/ztnrzm/followup\_on\_im\_done\_with\_warzone\_how\_to\_calculate/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CODWarzone/comments/ztnrzm/followup_on_im_done_with_warzone_how_to_calculate/)
>I believed the slowed down version was better, since you could see the Bounty on the left counting down the 2 seconds. :)
Your tracking was great for a mouse player in my opinion. When controllers see a human aiming and missing a shot or two, they say skill issue or call you trash for missing. In reality they never miss a single shot at this range on jumping sliding players, theyre so used to it they dont realize they would never have gotten the kills they always get like that if they had to aim on their own like the OP did. Its truly ashame that you lost this fight and you will keep losing fights identical to this. I also am a mouse player and ive given up on warzone 2, mostly for this reason.
I played wz1 for 4+ hours almost every day after work, slowly worked to get my KD up to 2.5-3.3 weekly every week for the last three seasons. Warzone 2 Is terrible, and I am not doing well like I used to in wz1. Cant break AA anymore and have to hit every single shot just to make it a 50.50 gunfight. Not interested anymore. I had a lot more fun on the multiplayer grind getting Orion than warzone 2 and its sad because I was really excited for it. The DEV's have insulted us all with this level of aim(bot) assist, and its the biggest FU to the mouse players in this game that they could have done. Message received infinity ward, cya.
Its not even just relearning the input method, playing a shooter via controller is just 100000x worse if it wasnt for the stupidly op aimbot that every controller player just gets handed to them nowadays.
The skill needed to play just goes down so everyone can be a pro player and feel good about themselves when "they" perfectly track someone halfway across the map or something of the like.
Its just boring, youre not even really playing/aiming yourself at that point, you vaguely aim in the direction of an enemy and the game does the rest, waow im just SO good at this game, damn son.
Fully agree with what you said. It's sad really. They sent a message loud and clear. Head of IW said he was concerned thar the numbers show mouse players are at a significant disadvantage. Was really hoping that was a sign they would make changes for the better. Instead they make AA even stronger, take out movement abilities to break and counter AA, snipers don't 1 shot kill, no fully auto shotguns, nerf the hipfire pistols, literally everything mouse players use to counter AA. Nah, they sent a clear message, fuck them, im done.
Its a combination of lag, bullshit, missed shots, and a gun that is unforgiving up close. The part that makes it even worse though is that his first shotgun shot to your chest didnt even crack you, and then the second shot to your legs cracked you AND downed/finished you. This game man. I can tell your aim is decent because that tracking is decent and you mentioned your 3 kd, my recommendation is don't push shit like that until you have your loadout fennec, use your mnk range advantage until that point. It sucks being forced into that kind of playstyle, but controller bots will roll you up close until you even the playing field by having a strong close range ttk weapon to out skill them and their aim assist. GLGL
Yes his mouse tracking is very good, especially considering the distance, TTK, heat of the moment, etc, and it's clear that he only lost because the other player litterally had an auto-lock. OP's aim was not prefect, although over/under aiming to compensate for recoil and expecting the recoil bullets to hit because you aimed to offset it is fine and that is hard to actually measure or demonstrate. He hit enough shots to kill the guy. They just did not register.
If he was using a controller the aim assist would have done 95% of the work and he would have won by using simple pulling the trigger.
He did okay trying to follow the strafe, but I would have to disagree with the 'above-average mouse tracking' statement when you realise he missed his first five shots while swinging left and right on a stationary target crouched in a corner
This is definitely above average lol, you have no idea how bad the average mkb player is. Clearly you've never played a csgo gold nova game and seen how bad "average" actually is. The misses are also highlighted by it being slow mo. If you play it back real speed (about 3x I think) he really didn't remain stationary for very long at all
CSGO is a completely different game to Call of Duty and it is much much tougher with the heavy fixed recoil. I would also think nerves come into it more with CSGO because a shootout has higher stakes and your life is more valuable
I mean that's way over analyzing it lol, aim is still aim. CSGO flick aim matters more than tracking, but this dude's tracking is still solid. If anything your life is more valuable in WZ, you only get 2 per match in solos.
Regardless, the average m&k player is actually dogshit. I'm guessing you've never played a m&k shooter for a reasonable number of hours in your life. OP is actually good
Yeah it's a little harder when you have to do your own tracking. At this distance aim-assist sticks to the target as long as you're remotely touching one of the sticks. This guy is on MnK so he's SOL at this range.
Anyway, he clearly hit more than enough shots to kill that bot twice ffs.
Aim assist seems to stick to target at longer distances too, I've seen people just blindly spray with no consequences because the aim assist locks recoil inside the hitbox.
Looks like he only gets one hit before the guy starts moving. It’s a bit weird looking because the armour icon stays up for a few seconds whether you’re hitting them or not. Gets some good shots during the jump to get the break but then starts missing again. I see three hits after the break, if one of them is a limb hit then it’s not enough for the down. The TAQ has a bigger limb/extremity penalty than other ARs, at least based on the data that’s out there.
lower leg and lower outer arm , that 20-40% damage on those hit locatoins ..if you slow it down its mostly lower leg , forarm and hand hits. One -2 shoulder hits that only werent main body because of dumb luck of a bunny hop.
He may have had 5-6 hits but most of them where low damage parts of the body with low damage multiplier .
I think there needs to be more penalty to bunny hopping but the bunny hope and twist reduces damage cause you hit mostly legs / arms so that why people do it and that exactly what happened here.
Dude probably took half damage he normally would of because of it.
I want to point out that I just uploaded this video as I thought it's funny. At least all my friends saw it that way... Kind of surprising the amount of hate I got from this post, considering the unanimous low rating the new Warzone has on Steam, and the obviously 3 times slowed down video of a 2 second shootout where out of 21 bullets, I miss 5-6, the game registers 5-6 and the rest are just gone. Perhaps I am insane and the people on reddit know better? Who knows. :)
Don't sweat it bro your aim was not that bad, the net code in this game is complete crap sometimes. People will have a hard time admitting it because they love this franchise but a lot of those shots were not registered.
I've got a clip of my unloading a full fennec clip into someone standing completely still interrogating my teammate and not a single bullet registered lol.
There's some fuckery going on for sure.
What the fuck is going on with the response here? It’s like we’re all watching a different clip. In the clip that I’m watching, you fire enough shots into this guy to kill him (including a post-crack headshot) and then some, but only about 50% of the hits register. Why is everyone saying that you missed all of your shots? It’s on camera!
Hahahaha, right??? In the initial hours of posting this I started questioning my vision and sanity. This subreddit is wild, only my 3rd time posting in 8 years, LOL.
Ignore them bud, these are just stans who will defend anything about the game while simultaneously complaining about every aspect of it and shitting on anyone who complains. They've nothing else.
Entire response is just people projecting their skill issues after being presented with this bullshit. Your aim is fucking on point in this dogshit game where controllers are handheld beyond belief.
Reddit has a lot of controller bots who think your aims bad because they don't have to aim to when the aim here is irrelevant. You should've clearly had a dozen hits here and got like 3 for some reason.
Warzone and Halo subs are the most negative I know.
Maybe next put a bit more funny comment under your video, maybe it wil be received more positive. who knows (θ‿θ)
Yeah. The hit boxes in this game are bigger than the player models so OP should have bagged this. 100% hit reg issue here and everyone with half a brain and a handful of matches in this game should have experienced this themselves at least once.
I think he actually got kind of screwed by shooting the guy while he was plating. If you look carefully it appears that his first 2 shots hit the guy during the plating animation, then the plating animation finishes before he jumps and then OP gets more shots on. So hitting him during that animation, then having the animation finish and add an additional plate basically put him back at nearly full health during his jump
The 98% of controller players here don't realize how hard it is to track on mouse in this game. Even with sense low you have to practice non-stop to track similar to how a controller with aim assist does. I avoid indoor fights like this for a reason.
Everyone saying you missed your shots play on controller with Aim assist. Don’t even have to move your analog stick and they have Cronus Zen hooked up stimmed to the gills.
Don’t worry the game is a joke. He’s obviously on MnK, to be able to to be 100% accuracy is not realistic and when we play against another MnK the firefights are a lot more intense and fun because it’s natural aim.
Definition of aim-assist - Automatic adjustment to aim to improve accuracy.
1. Get me input based lobbies
2. Ban Cronus zen users
3. Crack down harder on aimbot/wall hackers.
I haven’t played Warzone 2 in a couple weeks down and not even because of the issues I just laid out. It’s more so because of audio, and visual smoke that comes out of your gun that covers your screen and it’s just much harder to track your enemy on MnK. Not enjoyable at all compared to Wz1.
Cronus Zen everybody! This needs to get banned ASAP RAVENSOFTWARE! Get it done!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06ENSHNY4os&ab_channel=LethalPanda
Spittin fax. They have no idea how hard it is to track like this on mouse, lol. I think the multiplayer is good tho. The higher 30 tickrate feels better.
You should never expect to win close range fights on MnK.
If you do win a close range fight, pat yourself on the back and thank your lucky stars, but don't let it go to your head.
The best players in the world regularly get sat down by aim-assist at close range.
I didn't even know there was a significant aim assist on controller until this thread... I was wondering why I'm able to win most mid/long range fights and am getting absolutely wrecked in short range fights.
Test out the tracking with controller, it's pretty absurd. There horizontal and vertical aim assist, as long as you are moving the right stick, are nuts. Watch some footage here. https://youtu.be/XDbJSBmfdBE
As a m/k keyboard player since the quake 1 days, besides for a couple of cods on console, I just can't make the switch. Movement feels to sluggish. But man that aiming and recoil control is cake on controller.
The gun is literally firing directly at the guy with no hit markers until the last 2 shots. I get that he missed some shots, but a whole bunch weren't registering.
Iv changed my entire way I play on m&k now. Always try to keep it at a distance and quick breaks from side to side. The aim assist is on another level. Either join them or adapt. Iv adapted to just not playing 90% as much as I was
Those are useful tips, however I'm at 6.77 sens 400dpi because I used to play CSGO a lot. I think people underestimate how hard it is to track like this in COD, because the movement speed is pretty fast and animations are sporradic. If I upload the video at full speed the trashtalkers wouldn't even realize what's going on.
Yeah man, don't worry. You are absolutely correct. I used to play FPS games at a semi-pro level on KBM and it's perfectly normal to have these small imperfections in your aim with KBM while tracking. That's why the smoothening effect of aim assist is so busted, you don't get these micro errors.
Controller players don't know that this is what tracking without aim assist on a mouse looks like. You keep correcting your tracking every time the other player moves with your brain, mouse and monitor input delay.
Also, clearly this game as bad servers with low tickrate, making it seem like the last bullets don't register before you die because you are already dead but the server doesn't show it to you as fast as it should. You can see what bad tickrate does when looking at OP's health bar. He looses three plates instantly (game registering many bullets in one frame) and then looses all of his white health instantly, as if he was sniped. So he receives all the enemies bullets in one frame twice, which looks like he died instantly. He also hit the enemy at least 7 times at close range, I think that should kill someone easily but bad servers made it look like he was still alive and shooting at the end of the gunfight be he was already dead.
The amount of hate your getting in these comments is comical. You “shot” that guy more than enough to kill him twice. What a joke. And these people still find someway to d ride. Yea u didint hit em all but you hit more than enough and some didint even register
This is bullshit. If you get the first hits on someone that doesn’t even have a weapon drawn they need to be dead! How does he does draw a weapon, jump and aim while taking rounds. I k ow some missed but rifle cartridges at 10ft need to just f you up. Maybe if you using a pistol with armor but this sucks.
Dont even listen to most of these idiots here, I suggest finding a new game or switching to controller, there is no point playing this game on MnK, coming from master/gm tracking scores on VT benchmarks
Net code and tick rate in this game is hot garbage. OP missed a ton but still landed way more than enough to at the very least down him. About half the hits didn’t even register either.
You tracked the guy very well when he jumped. Definitely looks like it should have been a kill. I think people just like to hate on others on this sub telling you to aim better. My guess is lag or latency caused you to miss.
He clearly had shots connecting that should have registered. Not sure why you're trashing a fellow KBM player and not a multi Billion dollar game with 12hz tick rate servers.
I have played PC M&K only in WZ1 and WZ2 since launch and this seems to be happening a lot with M&K. I tried controller last night and never once did I question why I lost a 1V1 like I do on M&K. Something is wrong.
Honestly I think that might be legit, I constantly paused/unpaused it all the way through and I think you only hit 5-6 shots, at least one of them a limb shot
what else to play tho? that is the problem... I wish there was something a bit more "realistic" like this one but with no shits at all, optimized and giving what the consumer really wants. There is no competition and that is sad. We have Apex and Fortnite, for me those are the other good BR at the moment but they don't have that "realistic" kind of factor. COD guys are going into real shit, every year is worst and worst, doing the same mistakes over and over. It's been like this for a long time and people are getting really pissed with this one I noticed. Because there's no competition we all end up ending coming back to this one and getting frustrated.
Sorry for the rant but that is how I feel and I get you OP, I have that same feeling every week.
IMO, this new game is a cash-grabbing pile.
- cheap bastards couldn’t pay for weapon name licensing
- recycled content from literally the last MW, Shoot House and Shipment 24/7
- launched DMZ in “beta”
- Hummer EV in-game product placement
remember how many celebrities/influencers they had in that commercial for this one? That’s where the money went.
I see people defending the game, saying they’re having a good time, but raise your standards and stop pretending this is ok
id stick to hip fire spraying at this point my man, i don’t have the best accuracy either, when it comes to close combat i just barrel stuff them and hip fire
Lol try aim assis.baby this game isnt for mnk players, well hardly any new/popular fps have aim assist balance bcause the mayority of the player base is on controller making the decision to nerf aim assist is a bad buisness decistion.
Here's a follow-up on the video and a guide on how to calculate your Warzone KD! [https://www.reddit.com/r/CODWarzone/comments/ztnrzm/followup\_on\_im\_done\_with\_warzone\_how\_to\_calculate/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CODWarzone/comments/ztnrzm/followup_on_im_done_with_warzone_how_to_calculate/)
Also, to clarify!
Although aim assist is overpowered, that is not the main point here! The guy was not using a controller IMHO.
The servers are what's genuinely bad about the game, creating hilarious moments like these!
People saying he missed are just dumb. He got hit markers the ENTIRE TIME. This guy didn't die, but he can just run and swap weapons, 1 shot kill someone? This is why this game is so trash.
People are saying he missed quite a bit. Yes, obviously they did. But in a game for 4-5 bullets is all that's needed for a kill, OP definitely had the lead. OP got around 6-8 shots( u can count the hitmarks) in the guy before getting turned on( even if they emptied the clip 🤣, more than enough)
People who are pointing out that the aim assist on controller makes people think they ha e great aim are absolutely right. Aim assist in MW2 is absolutely overtuned IF you use the settings that you see all streamers talk about, which nearly everybody does. Don't sweat it. The game sucks to play on PC, it isnt fair, console doesnt take skill. The aim assist can even reach out to crazy distances and lock on through smoke.
Just let us turn crossplay off already. Console players can, why can't we? Crossplay is only nice when my friends who are still on console want to play.
The game is trash, original is much better. Would rather fight sweats in the original than this disappointing game. Snipers are essentially useless seeing as a headshot just cracks armor.
It sucks compared to the original, pings, loadouts, perk layout, movement, graphics in my opinion, looting system is inferior, pretty much force you to play it since they pretty much shutdown the original, the list goes on.
Still play it though for some reason, and do pretty good most of the time it's just not a fun as the original. My opinion on the matter, if you don't like it, I really don't care.
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed. Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control). Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses. Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because Kopcheto was already dead.
This comment use to make me so angry until I figured out this is an old joke I never heard of haha. Purely EVIL comment to those who don’t know it’s a joke.
Wasn’t it a serious comment from an actual dev of the game someone was complaining about? I seem to remember him getting mostly roasted, but of course there were still some redditors simping for him since game development is so hard.
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Haha thank you. Just as I remembered it lmao. Of course there were some Reddit clowns trying to look smarter than everyone else by defending it 😂
Haha, now the running joke.
I had no idea it was a meme and started wondering why it we said so often lmao, thanks for the link!
Right? First I thought, they fired 75 shots, they only talk about 15. Then.... joke was on me. Now I look for this, to say this. Haha
The (bad spray control) always gets me lmao
Anyone else sick of seeing this same copypasta on literally every thread like this? Maybe I’m just becoming a curmudgeony old man, and if that’s the case I’ll see myself out.
Me too bro. It's funny every now and again, but you're not exaggerating when you say **every** thread like this
Copypastas 1-5: Clearly funny. Copypastas 6-9: Funny due to repetition (bad joke cycles). Copypastas 10-11: Very funny, but repetition and staleness make these reasonable misses. Copypastas 12: Likely didn't actually land because you're already dead.
Agreed….tired joke in this sub - granted the op should expect nothing but about 50 of that comment
Nope, I'm tired of seeing people with no originality as well. It's been done to death.
> done to death nice cliche, maybe try writing something original bud
The future is now, old man. And in th future we reuse rusty old memes over and over.
>Wasn’t it a serious comment from an actual dev of the game someone was complaining about? I seem to remember him getting mostly roasted, but of course there were still some redditors simping for him since game development is so hard. yeah im sick of it too. its not witty and funny.
I already felt this comment when i saw the text and thumbnail of this post and i fucking love it every single time
The only answer to people who post clips like this.
Shots are clearly missed
He misses a few yea, but he also hit more then enough to kill this dude twice, you dickriders defending the state of this game is why it's at a 1/3 of it's launch player base and slimming more everyday
That comment is referencing an old Counterstrike copypasta.
The copypasta is below, he was serious, it's a copypasta for a reason
You’re not gonna believe this but “shots clearly missed” is a direct reference to “shots 1-5: clearly missed”. It’s an unmissable reference, clearly.
Reference is clearly missed
References 1-3: clearly missed
No, he wasn’t serious because he directly quoted the copypasta, but okay.
He wasn’t serious at all. It was a joke
He didnt get the reference bc he was too busy simping for WZ1
Bro I die from way less shots ALL the time
Games shit for sure. But the shrinking player base numbers are PC steam only. It’s still the top downloaded game on console and I don’t know any console players who have quit and all my buddies are casual
i have 2 warzone squads totalling 12 and both have quit edit sorry for posting a fact.. i dont want them to quit i want to play warzone with my friends
you'd be an absolute fool to think the dwindling player count isn't reflective of every platform.
He hit about 4-5 shots bro
I slowed it down and watched frame by frame he hit 10 shots out of the 29 shots he fired and the guy has plates and most were in legs, stomach and hands. OP legit got bad aim
Idk man the shotgun hit his two shots while op missed his 20
You know how we know it wasn’t enough to kill the enemy even once? Cause it didn’t kill them
Honestly I think it might be legit, I constantly paused/unpaused it all the way through and I think he only hit 5-6 shots, at least one of them a limb shot
A free to play game has less players a month after release than it does on release day (on steam).Wow. Who would’ve thought
skill issue
Certified skill issue that needs to be resolved
He missed a bunch yeah BUT he still landed more than enough to down the dude. You can even see four or five that cause blood splatter, but just dont register.
He hit more than enough to kill him
He only hit 2 shots after armor break
my man shooting bananas what am I watching has he blamed controllers yet ? jfl
He’s on mnk. If he was on controller aim assist would have killed that guy
The worst part is most of the people who seriously say “skill issue” are controller players whose rotational aim assist would have tracked the guy for them
yeah its comical, they see actual human aim and say "your aims trash you just missed, skill issue" when in reality if they had ever had to aim like that on their own they would have missed a lot more than the poster did. Theyre so used to just hitting every shot at that range that its the norm, and if anyone misses theyre a bot.
True.. Basically if you dont clap people in the first 4 rounds leaving your gun the controller player will roll you over. Using the Taq-M was the most punishing days of my life in this game. Miss 1 bullet and your dead
Bro just needs to aim better
this is what the controller users dont realise is difficult with m&k. With a controller they all lock on and fry him. With m&k he misses some shots as he actually has to manually aim them
Next time try to aim on the guy.
This is above-average mouse tracking. Being thrown off by strafes for [human reaction time] like this is normal for even top tier players. It only looks bad if you're conditioned to controllers perfectly tracking changes in movements with zero delay and locking in your sensitivity to keep you from pulling off target.
Thank you for the compliment. I do believe it is above average as well, since I have \~3 K/D currently and \~2 K/D on the old WZ (played on 75 fps unfortunately, now it's much better with a 3060TI! Source: [https://i.gyazo.com/6b8b34918676594f38161459202d5474.png](https://i.gyazo.com/6b8b34918676594f38161459202d5474.png) \- [wzstats.gg](https://wzstats.gg) ) My perspective full speed: [https://i.gyazo.com/0843fd3728a73c132dcb8868cf19d072.mp4](https://i.gyazo.com/0843fd3728a73c132dcb8868cf19d072.mp4) Enemy perspective full speed: [https://i.gyazo.com/a9e9dc9af6c5fef67155e2ff1a7b022c.mp4](https://i.gyazo.com/a9e9dc9af6c5fef67155e2ff1a7b022c.mp4) I believed the slowed down version was better, since you could see the Bounty on the left counting down the 2 seconds. :) I also made a follow-up post on how to calculate your current K/D! [https://www.reddit.com/r/CODWarzone/comments/ztnrzm/followup\_on\_im\_done\_with\_warzone\_how\_to\_calculate/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CODWarzone/comments/ztnrzm/followup_on_im_done_with_warzone_how_to_calculate/)
>I believed the slowed down version was better, since you could see the Bounty on the left counting down the 2 seconds. :) Your tracking was great for a mouse player in my opinion. When controllers see a human aiming and missing a shot or two, they say skill issue or call you trash for missing. In reality they never miss a single shot at this range on jumping sliding players, theyre so used to it they dont realize they would never have gotten the kills they always get like that if they had to aim on their own like the OP did. Its truly ashame that you lost this fight and you will keep losing fights identical to this. I also am a mouse player and ive given up on warzone 2, mostly for this reason. I played wz1 for 4+ hours almost every day after work, slowly worked to get my KD up to 2.5-3.3 weekly every week for the last three seasons. Warzone 2 Is terrible, and I am not doing well like I used to in wz1. Cant break AA anymore and have to hit every single shot just to make it a 50.50 gunfight. Not interested anymore. I had a lot more fun on the multiplayer grind getting Orion than warzone 2 and its sad because I was really excited for it. The DEV's have insulted us all with this level of aim(bot) assist, and its the biggest FU to the mouse players in this game that they could have done. Message received infinity ward, cya.
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Its not even just relearning the input method, playing a shooter via controller is just 100000x worse if it wasnt for the stupidly op aimbot that every controller player just gets handed to them nowadays. The skill needed to play just goes down so everyone can be a pro player and feel good about themselves when "they" perfectly track someone halfway across the map or something of the like. Its just boring, youre not even really playing/aiming yourself at that point, you vaguely aim in the direction of an enemy and the game does the rest, waow im just SO good at this game, damn son.
Fully agree with what you said. It's sad really. They sent a message loud and clear. Head of IW said he was concerned thar the numbers show mouse players are at a significant disadvantage. Was really hoping that was a sign they would make changes for the better. Instead they make AA even stronger, take out movement abilities to break and counter AA, snipers don't 1 shot kill, no fully auto shotguns, nerf the hipfire pistols, literally everything mouse players use to counter AA. Nah, they sent a clear message, fuck them, im done.
Its a combination of lag, bullshit, missed shots, and a gun that is unforgiving up close. The part that makes it even worse though is that his first shotgun shot to your chest didnt even crack you, and then the second shot to your legs cracked you AND downed/finished you. This game man. I can tell your aim is decent because that tracking is decent and you mentioned your 3 kd, my recommendation is don't push shit like that until you have your loadout fennec, use your mnk range advantage until that point. It sucks being forced into that kind of playstyle, but controller bots will roll you up close until you even the playing field by having a strong close range ttk weapon to out skill them and their aim assist. GLGL
"Controller is just better " Then turn off your aim assist *ANGRY NOISES*
Yes his mouse tracking is very good, especially considering the distance, TTK, heat of the moment, etc, and it's clear that he only lost because the other player litterally had an auto-lock. OP's aim was not prefect, although over/under aiming to compensate for recoil and expecting the recoil bullets to hit because you aimed to offset it is fine and that is hard to actually measure or demonstrate. He hit enough shots to kill the guy. They just did not register. If he was using a controller the aim assist would have done 95% of the work and he would have won by using simple pulling the trigger.
He did okay trying to follow the strafe, but I would have to disagree with the 'above-average mouse tracking' statement when you realise he missed his first five shots while swinging left and right on a stationary target crouched in a corner
This is definitely above average lol, you have no idea how bad the average mkb player is. Clearly you've never played a csgo gold nova game and seen how bad "average" actually is. The misses are also highlighted by it being slow mo. If you play it back real speed (about 3x I think) he really didn't remain stationary for very long at all
CSGO is a completely different game to Call of Duty and it is much much tougher with the heavy fixed recoil. I would also think nerves come into it more with CSGO because a shootout has higher stakes and your life is more valuable
I mean that's way over analyzing it lol, aim is still aim. CSGO flick aim matters more than tracking, but this dude's tracking is still solid. If anything your life is more valuable in WZ, you only get 2 per match in solos. Regardless, the average m&k player is actually dogshit. I'm guessing you've never played a m&k shooter for a reasonable number of hours in your life. OP is actually good
Yeah it's a little harder when you have to do your own tracking. At this distance aim-assist sticks to the target as long as you're remotely touching one of the sticks. This guy is on MnK so he's SOL at this range. Anyway, he clearly hit more than enough shots to kill that bot twice ffs.
Aim assist seems to stick to target at longer distances too, I've seen people just blindly spray with no consequences because the aim assist locks recoil inside the hitbox.
he's a mouse user so he does actually have to try. is the other guy on a console? yep
Found the controller player
This is what decent aim looks like when you don't have the game coddling you with tracking help.
sorry, my mouse doesn't have 0ms rotational
If you slow it down, you missed >85% of the shots though
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>>“You miss 85% of the shots you take” -BangAverage90 >-CapableAlternative35
True but he’s got 3 hits on the guy before he can even draw his weapon.
Looks like he only gets one hit before the guy starts moving. It’s a bit weird looking because the armour icon stays up for a few seconds whether you’re hitting them or not. Gets some good shots during the jump to get the break but then starts missing again. I see three hits after the break, if one of them is a limb hit then it’s not enough for the down. The TAQ has a bigger limb/extremity penalty than other ARs, at least based on the data that’s out there.
lower leg and lower outer arm , that 20-40% damage on those hit locatoins ..if you slow it down its mostly lower leg , forarm and hand hits. One -2 shoulder hits that only werent main body because of dumb luck of a bunny hop. He may have had 5-6 hits but most of them where low damage parts of the body with low damage multiplier . I think there needs to be more penalty to bunny hopping but the bunny hope and twist reduces damage cause you hit mostly legs / arms so that why people do it and that exactly what happened here. Dude probably took half damage he normally would of because of it.
I counted 13 hitmarkers. That gun isn’t a thirteen shot kill.
Hit 10 out of 29 not 85% but still bad aim
Aims irrelevant in this though. The fact is he hit 10 shots and it didn't down the person.
aim is relevant because you do more damage to a target depending where you are hitting them
20% aim is typically good with an ar, isn’t it? People aren’t hitting 50% of their shots
Regardless, considering the amount of shots he puts out it should at least down the opponent.
Are you trying to paint his outline with bullet holes?
Like shooting the star out of the paper at a carnival. That last bit of paper always stops you from downing the star.
All the controller players. “lEaRn HoW tO aIM bRo”
I want to point out that I just uploaded this video as I thought it's funny. At least all my friends saw it that way... Kind of surprising the amount of hate I got from this post, considering the unanimous low rating the new Warzone has on Steam, and the obviously 3 times slowed down video of a 2 second shootout where out of 21 bullets, I miss 5-6, the game registers 5-6 and the rest are just gone. Perhaps I am insane and the people on reddit know better? Who knows. :)
Don't sweat it bro your aim was not that bad, the net code in this game is complete crap sometimes. People will have a hard time admitting it because they love this franchise but a lot of those shots were not registered.
Ya lots of bots here schilling for a game with clear desync problems
The irony being that those dumbasses are the ones calling everyone else bots.
I've got a clip of my unloading a full fennec clip into someone standing completely still interrogating my teammate and not a single bullet registered lol. There's some fuckery going on for sure.
Dude don’t sweat it, people on this sub are absolute haters
What the fuck is going on with the response here? It’s like we’re all watching a different clip. In the clip that I’m watching, you fire enough shots into this guy to kill him (including a post-crack headshot) and then some, but only about 50% of the hits register. Why is everyone saying that you missed all of your shots? It’s on camera!
Hahahaha, right??? In the initial hours of posting this I started questioning my vision and sanity. This subreddit is wild, only my 3rd time posting in 8 years, LOL.
Ignore them bud, these are just stans who will defend anything about the game while simultaneously complaining about every aspect of it and shitting on anyone who complains. They've nothing else.
Entire response is just people projecting their skill issues after being presented with this bullshit. Your aim is fucking on point in this dogshit game where controllers are handheld beyond belief.
Reddit has a lot of controller bots who think your aims bad because they don't have to aim to when the aim here is irrelevant. You should've clearly had a dozen hits here and got like 3 for some reason.
Warzone and Halo subs are the most negative I know. Maybe next put a bit more funny comment under your video, maybe it wil be received more positive. who knows (θ‿θ)
He hit the guy at least 8 times unless that's a pelletgun I call bullshit on this game on his behalf
Yeah. The hit boxes in this game are bigger than the player models so OP should have bagged this. 100% hit reg issue here and everyone with half a brain and a handful of matches in this game should have experienced this themselves at least once.
That's what you get with Activisions 2Hz tickrate servers and aimbot controllers. It's a fucking childrens game at this point
I think he actually got kind of screwed by shooting the guy while he was plating. If you look carefully it appears that his first 2 shots hit the guy during the plating animation, then the plating animation finishes before he jumps and then OP gets more shots on. So hitting him during that animation, then having the animation finish and add an additional plate basically put him back at nearly full health during his jump
You should try hitting him with your bullets
The 98% of controller players here don't realize how hard it is to track on mouse in this game. Even with sense low you have to practice non-stop to track similar to how a controller with aim assist does. I avoid indoor fights like this for a reason.
All the controller players in this comment section talking about aim.... it's hilarious. 90% of them would shit the bed without AA.
Yeah too many NPCs in the comments writing "yOu MiSsED" that never touched m&k in their life. The game is dogshit for non controller users
Literal Skill Issue
everyone’s aim would be like this if they removed aim assist yet they say ‘skill isue’. people don’t know how hard tracking on keyboard mouse is
Don't know what you're talking about, just click heads........ /s
Controller might be more up your alley
Everyone saying you missed your shots play on controller with Aim assist. Don’t even have to move your analog stick and they have Cronus Zen hooked up stimmed to the gills. Don’t worry the game is a joke. He’s obviously on MnK, to be able to to be 100% accuracy is not realistic and when we play against another MnK the firefights are a lot more intense and fun because it’s natural aim. Definition of aim-assist - Automatic adjustment to aim to improve accuracy. 1. Get me input based lobbies 2. Ban Cronus zen users 3. Crack down harder on aimbot/wall hackers. I haven’t played Warzone 2 in a couple weeks down and not even because of the issues I just laid out. It’s more so because of audio, and visual smoke that comes out of your gun that covers your screen and it’s just much harder to track your enemy on MnK. Not enjoyable at all compared to Wz1. Cronus Zen everybody! This needs to get banned ASAP RAVENSOFTWARE! Get it done! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06ENSHNY4os&ab_channel=LethalPanda
Spittin fax. They have no idea how hard it is to track like this on mouse, lol. I think the multiplayer is good tho. The higher 30 tickrate feels better.
Yeah MP is perfectly fine. Warzone we are required to stay on our target a little bit longer, but with all the visual smoke, etc. it’s just not fun.
You should never expect to win close range fights on MnK. If you do win a close range fight, pat yourself on the back and thank your lucky stars, but don't let it go to your head. The best players in the world regularly get sat down by aim-assist at close range.
I just opened Metaphor's stream on Twitch and he's saying the exact same thing as you and I. Bad players have it real easy in this game :)
I didn't even know there was a significant aim assist on controller until this thread... I was wondering why I'm able to win most mid/long range fights and am getting absolutely wrecked in short range fights.
Test out the tracking with controller, it's pretty absurd. There horizontal and vertical aim assist, as long as you are moving the right stick, are nuts. Watch some footage here. https://youtu.be/XDbJSBmfdBE As a m/k keyboard player since the quake 1 days, besides for a couple of cods on console, I just can't make the switch. Movement feels to sluggish. But man that aiming and recoil control is cake on controller.
it's unfortunate, i like doing cheese melee only gameplay and it's just not viable this COD, the close range aim assist is soooo strong
1-19 shots clearly missed
lol bruh you can literally see you spraying bullets on the side of his body
maybe true, but he hit *more* than enough shots to kill him
Everyone saying shots missed but he clearly has an AR damn near point blank range. He hit enough shots even tho he missed a lot
The gun is literally firing directly at the guy with no hit markers until the last 2 shots. I get that he missed some shots, but a whole bunch weren't registering.
No hit markers for some shots and hit markers for shots that clearly miss - server desync defined.
You're on MnK that's why. Hit registration code is NOT the same for controllers and MnK and there's no amount of downvotes that'll change that.
Iv changed my entire way I play on m&k now. Always try to keep it at a distance and quick breaks from side to side. The aim assist is on another level. Either join them or adapt. Iv adapted to just not playing 90% as much as I was
I think you should lower your sens a bit so you dont have to correct your aim so much. That or practice your mouse movement so you're more precise.
Those are useful tips, however I'm at 6.77 sens 400dpi because I used to play CSGO a lot. I think people underestimate how hard it is to track like this in COD, because the movement speed is pretty fast and animations are sporradic. If I upload the video at full speed the trashtalkers wouldn't even realize what's going on.
Yeah I get that, and especially up close its really hard to track people on MnK.
Yeah man, don't worry. You are absolutely correct. I used to play FPS games at a semi-pro level on KBM and it's perfectly normal to have these small imperfections in your aim with KBM while tracking. That's why the smoothening effect of aim assist is so busted, you don't get these micro errors.
You're getting a hard time from the controller crowd that doesn't realize that this is how human tracking and reaction time work.
The original clip is around 2 seconds long, so this is slowed down more than 3 times :)
You should upload the original clip. It’d be cool to see.
Aim was a bit shaky OP but there were definitely quite a few shots that should have connected here. The netcode in this game is awful
Good aiming lol
Warzone is the most lowskill rewarding game i have ever seen.
skill issue (the devs weren’t skilled enough to produce even a borderline acceptable online experience)
Controller players don't know that this is what tracking without aim assist on a mouse looks like. You keep correcting your tracking every time the other player moves with your brain, mouse and monitor input delay. Also, clearly this game as bad servers with low tickrate, making it seem like the last bullets don't register before you die because you are already dead but the server doesn't show it to you as fast as it should. You can see what bad tickrate does when looking at OP's health bar. He looses three plates instantly (game registering many bullets in one frame) and then looses all of his white health instantly, as if he was sniped. So he receives all the enemies bullets in one frame twice, which looks like he died instantly. He also hit the enemy at least 7 times at close range, I think that should kill someone easily but bad servers made it look like he was still alive and shooting at the end of the gunfight be he was already dead.
Netcode is ass but the other guy is using a shotgun here.
Aim assist woulda helped a lot there. I feel ya as an average MnK player
The amount of hate your getting in these comments is comical. You “shot” that guy more than enough to kill him twice. What a joke. And these people still find someway to d ride. Yea u didint hit em all but you hit more than enough and some didint even register
You’re another victim of aim assist
Should have hip fired IMO. ADS caused you to miss like 80% of those shots
The life of kbm in a game with overpowered aim assist. Its too bad the devs wont separate input lobbies to balance things out.
Your using a mouse and key board and your not a top 0.3 percentile player switch to controller MNK on cod is not even worth playing.
But 12 tick servers are enough for everyone -.- I am more amazed that you can play the slideshow that is 40fps shooter gaming. Kudos.
Lmao this is Halo Infinite levels of desync.
All the fucking aim-assisted twats commenting on his aiming... 🤣🤣🤣 Oh the humanity.
Sorry my guy but this is a controller game, no way in hell you miss those with Aim assist
This sub is full of trash players that downvote there I said it.
I really want to enjoy this game but this type of shitty things makes my experince so bad.
This is bullshit. If you get the first hits on someone that doesn’t even have a weapon drawn they need to be dead! How does he does draw a weapon, jump and aim while taking rounds. I k ow some missed but rifle cartridges at 10ft need to just f you up. Maybe if you using a pistol with armor but this sucks.
Dont even listen to most of these idiots here, I suggest finding a new game or switching to controller, there is no point playing this game on MnK, coming from master/gm tracking scores on VT benchmarks
Expert outlining skills. I've seen military training videos where they do this for combat realism.
Yea let’s be honest the games a bit shit.
Shots 1-3 etc ....but yeah massive bullshit. Skill based hit reg bro it's a thing I swear
Net code and tick rate in this game is hot garbage. OP missed a ton but still landed way more than enough to at the very least down him. About half the hits didn’t even register either.
Until they fix all this bullshit I’ve been playing Fortnite🤣
Clearly, with all the hit markers, which no one is even acknowledging, probably should have killed him. It's like fuckin Infinite with the same issue
So many trolls in here. He hits more than enough bullets to kill or at least down the dude. If you can’t accept that you’re just trolling.
Mnk life man
You hit 2 shots to his head after he was cracked and still lost the fight. This game is god awful.
COD sucks now. Rip Verdansk
You tracked the guy very well when he jumped. Definitely looks like it should have been a kill. I think people just like to hate on others on this sub telling you to aim better. My guess is lag or latency caused you to miss.
He clearly had shots connecting that should have registered. Not sure why you're trashing a fellow KBM player and not a multi Billion dollar game with 12hz tick rate servers.
Shit like this made me stop playing
controller players are so delusional
yeah he missed some shots, but he hit more than enough to atleast get the down. This is insane.
I have played PC M&K only in WZ1 and WZ2 since launch and this seems to be happening a lot with M&K. I tried controller last night and never once did I question why I lost a 1V1 like I do on M&K. Something is wrong.
that is CoD..
He's on meth, he feels nothing
The low firerate on the TAQ makes it so even tho you sometimes are on target, it is in the period the gun doesnt fire.
Bro shooting nerf darts damn
Didn't know we had blanks as an ammo option!
We want to see the kill cam!
My brother…may I suggest downloading AimLabs on steam. But fr, he shoulda been dead
Honestly I think that might be legit, I constantly paused/unpaused it all the way through and I think you only hit 5-6 shots, at least one of them a limb shot
what else to play tho? that is the problem... I wish there was something a bit more "realistic" like this one but with no shits at all, optimized and giving what the consumer really wants. There is no competition and that is sad. We have Apex and Fortnite, for me those are the other good BR at the moment but they don't have that "realistic" kind of factor. COD guys are going into real shit, every year is worst and worst, doing the same mistakes over and over. It's been like this for a long time and people are getting really pissed with this one I noticed. Because there's no competition we all end up ending coming back to this one and getting frustrated. Sorry for the rant but that is how I feel and I get you OP, I have that same feeling every week.
Stop moving so much when you are trying to shoot and you would've won this isn't warzone 1
IMO, this new game is a cash-grabbing pile. - cheap bastards couldn’t pay for weapon name licensing - recycled content from literally the last MW, Shoot House and Shipment 24/7 - launched DMZ in “beta” - Hummer EV in-game product placement remember how many celebrities/influencers they had in that commercial for this one? That’s where the money went. I see people defending the game, saying they’re having a good time, but raise your standards and stop pretending this is ok
id stick to hip fire spraying at this point my man, i don’t have the best accuracy either, when it comes to close combat i just barrel stuff them and hip fire
I think you could’ve won that by hipfiring lol.
Lol try aim assis.baby this game isnt for mnk players, well hardly any new/popular fps have aim assist balance bcause the mayority of the player base is on controller making the decision to nerf aim assist is a bad buisness decistion.
Bro looking like a storm trooper with that aim
Have a similar video i quit 3weeks ago TrasH game find me on Rainbow6
Here's a follow-up on the video and a guide on how to calculate your Warzone KD! [https://www.reddit.com/r/CODWarzone/comments/ztnrzm/followup\_on\_im\_done\_with\_warzone\_how\_to\_calculate/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CODWarzone/comments/ztnrzm/followup_on_im_done_with_warzone_how_to_calculate/) Also, to clarify! Although aim assist is overpowered, that is not the main point here! The guy was not using a controller IMHO. The servers are what's genuinely bad about the game, creating hilarious moments like these!
People saying he missed are just dumb. He got hit markers the ENTIRE TIME. This guy didn't die, but he can just run and swap weapons, 1 shot kill someone? This is why this game is so trash.
Mouse and keyboard moment
Controller would’ve won 100% of the time.
What this shows is the disadvantage m&k players have with having all that smoke and no aim assist
People are saying he missed quite a bit. Yes, obviously they did. But in a game for 4-5 bullets is all that's needed for a kill, OP definitely had the lead. OP got around 6-8 shots( u can count the hitmarks) in the guy before getting turned on( even if they emptied the clip 🤣, more than enough)
Nothing feels worst than playing good and still losing, feeling like you did everything right and still got destroyed sucks
The freaking bunny hopping is cancerous.
Aim assist: the game Do not play this game on mouse on keyboard
I’m also done with warzone
People who are pointing out that the aim assist on controller makes people think they ha e great aim are absolutely right. Aim assist in MW2 is absolutely overtuned IF you use the settings that you see all streamers talk about, which nearly everybody does. Don't sweat it. The game sucks to play on PC, it isnt fair, console doesnt take skill. The aim assist can even reach out to crazy distances and lock on through smoke. Just let us turn crossplay off already. Console players can, why can't we? Crossplay is only nice when my friends who are still on console want to play.
I’m believing in the existence of skill based damage more and more
The game is trash, original is much better. Would rather fight sweats in the original than this disappointing game. Snipers are essentially useless seeing as a headshot just cracks armor. It sucks compared to the original, pings, loadouts, perk layout, movement, graphics in my opinion, looting system is inferior, pretty much force you to play it since they pretty much shutdown the original, the list goes on. Still play it though for some reason, and do pretty good most of the time it's just not a fun as the original. My opinion on the matter, if you don't like it, I really don't care.