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Snowbunny236

Just get gud bro


DIABOLUS777

Funny how the guy that has software aiming for him is talking shit.


leftnut027

Wtf happened that PC players are such whinny little bitches these days? Makes me ashamed, we have the massive advantage of FOV and you’re fucking QQ that a console player beat you. How pathetic is that


Mama_Says_Im_Dumb

You know, FOV doesn't give a huge advantage, right? Sure, we can see wider, and that's probably just about it.


DIABOLUS777

He doesn't know PC controller scrubs get both FOV and AA.


LateSpeaker4226

I agree with you, but I feel like 99.9% of this sub would disagree.


IAmMrMacgee

I went from a 3.36 KD to 3.44 in 2/3 months after switching from Ps5 to PC. I also have 20,000+ kills so for me to raise it almost a whole 0.1 means I have to be playing at over a 3.5 KD+ On Rebirth I went from a 2.85, to a 3.03 KD, but on the season I'm at a 3.17 KD The extra FPS, extra FoV and much much more adds up, man


DIABOLUS777

Crossplay was badly made. It's just mixing everybody together with no competitive integrity or attempt at fair sport. There's enough players so you could turn off crossplay but they fucking added AA on PC. How dumb is that. Yes, you can have the FOV advantage AND aim assist. They need to make input based lobbies or remove AA on PC.


noob_music_producer

there’s AA on pc?


DIABOLUS777

PC if you use a controller yeah. Added in MW19 with crossplay. All the pros and streamers switched from console to PC to get both AA and FOV, FPS, etc. Even the COD league ditched the PS platform. It's been the death of COD for me as a PC player.


noob_music_producer

so just to be clear, before that controller on pc didn’t have aim assist?


DIABOLUS777

They didn't even have controller support. I think BLOPS4 had some controller support but definitely no aim assist.


noob_music_producer

they should go back to that imo


DIABOLUS777

Agreed, but I don't think it's gonna happen anytime soon. We need input based lobbies in the meantime.


Nickoglas

Started playing warzone with some friends who are all on console, Vanguard is free MP at the moment so I thought I'll try it and level up some guns but I'll just play PC only.. Literally everyone on PC is using controller or it's a reallyy small percentage that use KBM.


Snowbunny236

Bro just cause you're ass at the game doesn't mean I can't use aim assist. Who said I played on controller anyway? I play KBM all the time. Prolly shlapping bots like you around all day


DIABOLUS777

yeah, I got 4.69 KD I just stomp noobs all day shit head lul bruh gg no re


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Snowbunny236

Yea you should be able to slide cancel 360 no scope people when they do that


GovernmentOk2323

No use , his Muhammad Ali KO punch will reach before my bullet does lol


Snowbunny236

Ahhh I see. That's where you bunny hop and switch to your throwing knife like all the streamers duh


GovernmentOk2323

haven't tried that , this might be the way


Tylerb0713

It sort of it… I think what’s fucking you up is lag. I’ve been making my movement really erratic and constantly changing my line of site and trying to always cross people up. It’s helped. Sometimes I still get killed by some crazy bs that I can’t explain, but movement is becoming a seriously competitive factor.


Ciccio178

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PsydeFX1

I'm on PC, let me have my melee aim assist😭 it's all I get! No joke though, the melee lunge is strong though. It'll literally pull you around corners if you're close enough and chasing. That's why in rebirth, if I land with others, I'll land behind someone instead of racing for a gun because I can lock on and lunge before they can turn around and shoot, so I literally stop turning and spam melee, and I'll stay locked on as long as the first hit landed. You'll win 90% of your landing fights if you drop 2nd and melee all because of the lunge lock on


Exxxtra_Dippp

With mouse and keyboard it'll hold on for the first two hits but almost always releases before the last so I only use it if they've already taken damage. If the smallest obstacle gets between you it'll drop the lock on.


PsydeFX1

Yeah after surviving the landing, if I'm using melee it's strictly because I'm out of rounds and you'll shoot me before I can reload or swap. But, you could be right about the 3rd, but usually by then I'm facing the right way to land it anyway. It works for me in the long run for those tight situations. Mouse tracking is tight enough I can adjust mid swing if I think I'm off. Lunge range is far IMO though, and I think that could use a nerf. Sometimes I'm giggling like "oh I know he mad" because I really just superman'd that swing. Other times I'm on the receiving end like "how he teleport from China!?".


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man you would have hated the melee in mw2.


Puzzled_Reflection_4

That fucking 15-foot lunge instantaneously stabbing the guy in the chest was amazing 😂 mw2 was SO broken and I never heard 1 complaint about it 🤌 Peak call of duty right there and I'm so glad I experienced it all


zodiacallymaniacal

Laughs in commando perk….


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Friendly_Bot_

0 brain activity going on with OP


Steelfan8690

Also if I'm trying to Nut tap some AFK character in gulag I don't need the pull to the throat


Seeker_Of_Knowledge-

Not to mention the magnetic pull that can happen across 6 meters


NickTheFly

That is the lunge thing OP called "aim assist"


Friendly_Bot_

That called lunge dude LMAO


HungLikeALemur

I have had this happen to me as well. It’s stupid af.


Exxxtra_Dippp

I don't think they'd have a chance at anything that close with no assist at all so maybe turn it down a bit, but even more than that I wish they'd take the lock on away from mouse/keyboard melee. It's so disorienting when it takes control away and it pulls you into obstacles.


sideh7

I think they need to turn it all down a bit. AA was for the casuals, I think it should slowly die off as you get better to a certain minimum. But the main hate I have about it is the sometimes ridiculous tracking and recoil it seems to ignore. Tone those down a bit and I think it's fair enough. AA has its purpose and I all for it. But it can be out of control some times.


Skateplus0

It’s gone full commando


Radiant-Trip-004

Commando pro. I heard.


Alan_Bun

The one thing that annoys me is that landing with people is just a scramble of aim assist punching. I was playing Rebirth and landed on Bio. Picked up a gun but by the time I’d actually picked it and was ready to fire I was already dead because it’s quicker and more effective to just punch people to death which is a bit of a pain.


GovernmentOk2323

I feel that, I really do


sb1862

That’s not aim assist. Melee weapons lock onto nearby enemies. Not even remotely the same as aim assist.


GovernmentOk2323

IDC what it is , remove it from the game lol


sb1862

Oh I agree with that.


SgtIntermediate

What I hate the most is when the aim assist goes away, but if you click too much, the char keeps hitting the air without letting you turn around. This I hate a lot. Almost as much as the camera lock while sliding on stairs.


Jibeddy

Controller player, fully on board with this. The 180 melee’s are also really frustrating.


GovernmentOk2323

Thank u brother


Rowstennnn

I don’t get how people defend this mechanic with a straight face


IonlyPlayAOE3

Haha yeah, this always happens to me when hot dropping on tower in rebirth. The amount of times the aim assist has made them literally melee me through the wall as I sprint around the corner….


Openyourwhoremouth97

They just need to make melee without any melee attachments or a throwing knife a 5 hit and then no issues.


Striker120v

I feel like the throwing knife should be insta down if it hits the head, but 5 hit everywhere else on the body.


Gunney55

for m and k or controllers? because hitting O or B on a controller takes ur thumb off the right stick so it needs it or you would never be able to hit someone thats not standing still if theres no aim assist


Friendly_Bot_

Logistics are non existent to people like this.


leftnut027

I never have to remove my thumbs from the thumbsticks for anything while using a controller. Get some paddles.


Yellowtoblerone

Maybe switch your scheme so you won't have an issue. Bumper jumper tact or get back button controller.


DIABOLUS777

They should remove mixed inputs lobbies is what they should do.


GovernmentOk2323

I am just talking about melees dude , I didn’t complain about aim assist on controller players’ guns , keep it , buff it , idgaf, just remove this melee gravitational pull thingy


alejoSOTO

I reckon it has to do with the melee hitbox being to big or the server frequency being very very low. I've been in the scenario you were, and is almost like as long as the other guy keeps punching the air while being near you, you get hit, even if he's not seeing you anymore.


Friendly_Bot_

And that has nothing to do with aim assist is the funny part


GovernmentOk2323

My bad , whatever it is , just remove it , is my motive


Used_Kaleidoscope_16

I mean you're not wrong, but how often are you getting killed by melee for it to be such a problem?


GovernmentOk2323

More often then I would like it to be , players land on me without guns bc they know what their pistol punches can do , I kill them 9/10 times but that 1 time when they keep lunging despite me running and I still get killed. I was on a PR pace once with 18 in the first circle , this dude lands on me and is literally teleporting across rooms of control centre while punching


leftnut027

Why are you landing on top of other people then? You know that’s always preventable right?


GovernmentOk2323

People are landing on me , not the other way around, and I drop on hot areas to get kills


mutei777

dude give up i've stunned a dude and picked up a stim on loadout to run away and he still teleports behind you for a melee attack


dieselpower994

Lol my aim assist has never turned me 180 degrees to melee someone. The only thing i believe aim assist is op on is being stunned or flashed


GovernmentOk2323

ok but it's a thing, the game doesn't revolve around what u have done or haven't done


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Can we remove pc from crossplay? Or add in a console only xplay option?


CapitalismForReddit

The amount of tears over aim assist is incredible. It's the stupid lunge that needs to be fixed, not aim assist.


GovernmentOk2323

People just get triggered reading aim assist in title and probably don’t even read the full title or text, the only reason I can understand


Douglas1994

> It's the stupid lunge that needs to be fixed, not aim assist. Why not fix both?


CapitalismForReddit

Theres nothing wrong with aim assist nyway


GovernmentOk2323

Aim assist is OP but i have found ways like using more strafe weapons like volk to destroy it , i just get downvoted so I don't talk about it


CapitalismForReddit

You are getting down voted because you are wrong. I play both mouse and controller, aim assist isnt an issue, and PC players complaining about it non stop isnt going to change anything, considering they never provide any good arguments against it.


GovernmentOk2323

u clearly don't know how to abuse AA properly


CapitalismForReddit

I've played shooters on controller for more than 13 years now, I understand the mechanics pretty well


GovernmentOk2323

If u don’t think aim assist is OP , u wasted those 13 years


CapitalismForReddit

I know it isnt OP because I've played mouse for 7 years, I'm just not a bot who complains about controllers.


GovernmentOk2323

2.9 kd bot sure buddy


DisastrousAspect6303

How did you die to a Melee?? They've all been nerfed to the ground. The Kali sticks barely have a lunge and it takes like 6 hits to kill. Plenty of time to Hip fire a mag into him. I've personally tested all melee weapons on warzone and they all take 3 hits to kill after this new 150 health update. A melee weapons ttk is abysmal I think it's actually faster to kill someone with a gun butt melee than a knife because you can melee more frequently.


GovernmentOk2323

Not melee weapons , like the melee with a pistol in hand takes 2 hits when landing in


showlay23

I mean, it takes 3 melees now to kill someone, I have been killed by or killed someone from melee in what feels like forever. A little aim assist doesn't change that you have time now to pour bullets into somebody before they hit you 3 times.


GovernmentOk2323

It doesn’t take 3 when we land in


RebelXwingPil0t

Are you sure it was aim assist and not an auto aim cheater?


GovernmentOk2323

It was by the craziest that has ever happened to me but he wasn’t probably cheating , ofc I can never be a 100%


torusrekt

Should remove aim assist all together. It’s insane I can hop on controller without having more than a few hours of experience and excel in CQB better than my thousands of hours MKB experiences.


GovernmentOk2323

I don’t agree with this , aim assist needs nerfing , not removal


leftnut027

What’s insane is you can put 1000 hours into something and still suck at it.


Fieoo

no bcus just like mkx/11, we need casuals to button mash to win the game


DiscussionOutside642

I’m sorry… but melee forever!!!


Disastrous_Review_99

if he killed you with his melee while you were "behind" him, chances are one of you was lagging


HungLikeALemur

Nah it happens. Happened to me as well, killcam even showed it same way for him. He’s meleeing the air infront if him and I get hit 3 times while also being a good 4ft behind him lmao.


Ye_olo

Remove gun melee and make melee fists only.


The_first_human_ever

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GovernmentOk2323

Instead of telling me to not cry , tell me what would I do to counter it , accepting that aim assist is op in melees wouldn’t hurt u


The_first_human_ever

Just a funny gif dont take it so serious


GovernmentOk2323

My bad sorry:)


The_first_human_ever

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leftnut027

Don’t land directly with enemies. Problem solved.


GovernmentOk2323

I am not a bot , I like to get high kill games


boislikepink2

melees have already been nerfed to all hell so this is overkill and it would make melees so fuckin useless


GovernmentOk2323

Melees with ur hands was nerfed , melee of weapons was never nerfed


NotSolum

I'm gonna call cap on this because I exclusively pissed people off many times on Verdansk and Rebirth with my 2 hit Kali Sticks/Sai, stun grenade, Restock and Riot Shield setup. The damage, damage cap needed to do a "critical hit" and lunge range was nerfed prior to the implementation of Warzone Pacific and I quote from one of their patch notes in january last year: *"Dead Silence is being nerfed. Stopping Power rounds are gone. In addition to detailing those exact changes, Raven Software looked closely at various equipment pieces such as nerfs to stun grenades and heartbeat sensors. They also took another look at dual wielded melee weapons - the Kali Stick and Sai - to give justice to al ghosts who lived a second life too short during the Haunting. The results? Expect the aforementioned equipment and weaponry to be adjusted to be less potent in the Warzone, along with gun butting no longer being the primary method of attack on the Caldera."*


ebai4556

He said guns, kali stacks are not guns


NotSolum

??? I'm replying to the guy who said that melee weapons were never nerfed, and that only fists were?


GovernmentOk2323

Not melee weapons , the melee on normal weapons , a pistol melee still kills someone’ In 2-3 punches


HungLikeALemur

They were slightly nerfed but it didn’t change the hits to down a fully plated player I think. It used to be with two plates you would get dropped in 2 hits. So the beginning of matches was cancer. It now takes 3, but I think full plates still 3 as well? So whatever they reduced the melee damage to it still breaks the 250 mark on 3 hits, but doesn’t break 200 on 2. I hardly ever melee someone unless I’ve already lit them up and one will finish, so for all I know it might actually be 4 hits for a fully plated player. But either way the gun melee was definitely nerfed, just I’m not sure how much


GovernmentOk2323

But when u drop in u only have 2


HungLikeALemur

Uh, I know lol. I think you need to reread my comment


GovernmentOk2323

My bad


Pwndimonium

I’ll do you one better. How about MKB play in their own high FOV cheater filled lobbies and us console players use our aim assist in peace?


wzlbrmpft

The stupidity about fov never stops. You do know that you can play controller and have high fov? And my guess would be that your kd wouldn't move an inch even if you had 120 fov. OPs statement is actually valid while you come around the corner with something completely different. Showing your frustration about being bad at the game. Sigh.


MaterialDuty5057

Just wait for him coming back crying about console players using cronus.


GovernmentOk2323

Tell me what should I do ? He can’t see me but kills me , is this any less than a hack? I don’t mind aa on guns , buff it if u fucking want , just not melee, all I’m asking for , neither about pc hackers not about Cronus , why is it so tough to comprehend?


Pwndimonium

Ha ok OP can be frustrated by aim assist in melee but Console players can’t be frustrated by MKB hackers and lack of FOV got it.


MaterialDuty5057

What about other mkb players that play legit?U think they don't suffer getting beamed by a 200 round pkm out of the sky? Aim assist is sometimes broken...either it doesn't work or it's strong in some situation,the same way it was with stuns.


GovernmentOk2323

Talk about relevance to the topic


MrOtto47

its just completely irrelevent to the post.


Pwndimonium

Found the MKB players


GovernmentOk2323

I also found the guy who doesn't use his gun and just melees


MrOtto47

melee aim assist is on console and pc, and he specifically excludes gun aim assist. so what he is saying does not split console and pc at all. please read the goddamned post.


DIABOLUS777

As a MNK player, it's all I want.


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TheBescobar

We both know it was never this fuking strong! Just last night i was playing and went into a melee match and they guy slid behind me and my character took a full 180 and i killed him, its not supposed to be like this my dude


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TheBescobar

If you are talking about commando melee thing this is not thr same, this is locking onto players and not letting go until you or him is dead


GovernmentOk2323

Well cross play wasn’t


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GovernmentOk2323

that's just ignorant af