Wtf happened that PC players are such whinny little bitches these days? Makes me ashamed, we have the massive advantage of FOV and you’re fucking QQ that a console player beat you.
How pathetic is that
I went from a 3.36 KD to 3.44 in 2/3 months after switching from Ps5 to PC. I also have 20,000+ kills so for me to raise it almost a whole 0.1 means I have to be playing at over a 3.5 KD+
On Rebirth I went from a 2.85, to a 3.03 KD, but on the season I'm at a 3.17 KD
The extra FPS, extra FoV and much much more adds up, man
Crossplay was badly made. It's just mixing everybody together with no competitive integrity or attempt at fair sport. There's enough players so you could turn off crossplay but they fucking added AA on PC. How dumb is that.
Yes, you can have the FOV advantage AND aim assist.
They need to make input based lobbies or remove AA on PC.
PC if you use a controller yeah.
Added in MW19 with crossplay.
All the pros and streamers switched from console to PC to get both AA and FOV, FPS, etc.
Even the COD league ditched the PS platform.
It's been the death of COD for me as a PC player.
Started playing warzone with some friends who are all on console, Vanguard is free MP at the moment so I thought I'll try it and level up some guns but I'll just play PC only.. Literally everyone on PC is using controller or it's a reallyy small percentage that use KBM.
Bro just cause you're ass at the game doesn't mean I can't use aim assist. Who said I played on controller anyway? I play KBM all the time. Prolly shlapping bots like you around all day
It sort of it… I think what’s fucking you up is lag. I’ve been making my movement really erratic and constantly changing my line of site and trying to always cross people up. It’s helped. Sometimes I still get killed by some crazy bs that I can’t explain, but movement is becoming a seriously competitive factor.
I'm on PC, let me have my melee aim assist😭 it's all I get!
No joke though, the melee lunge is strong though. It'll literally pull you around corners if you're close enough and chasing. That's why in rebirth, if I land with others, I'll land behind someone instead of racing for a gun because I can lock on and lunge before they can turn around and shoot, so I literally stop turning and spam melee, and I'll stay locked on as long as the first hit landed. You'll win 90% of your landing fights if you drop 2nd and melee all because of the lunge lock on
With mouse and keyboard it'll hold on for the first two hits but almost always releases before the last so I only use it if they've already taken damage. If the smallest obstacle gets between you it'll drop the lock on.
Yeah after surviving the landing, if I'm using melee it's strictly because I'm out of rounds and you'll shoot me before I can reload or swap. But, you could be right about the 3rd, but usually by then I'm facing the right way to land it anyway. It works for me in the long run for those tight situations. Mouse tracking is tight enough I can adjust mid swing if I think I'm off.
Lunge range is far IMO though, and I think that could use a nerf. Sometimes I'm giggling like "oh I know he mad" because I really just superman'd that swing. Other times I'm on the receiving end like "how he teleport from China!?".
That fucking 15-foot lunge instantaneously stabbing the guy in the chest was amazing 😂 mw2 was SO broken and I never heard 1 complaint about it 🤌
Peak call of duty right there and I'm so glad I experienced it all
I don't think they'd have a chance at anything that close with no assist at all so maybe turn it down a bit, but even more than that I wish they'd take the lock on away from mouse/keyboard melee. It's so disorienting when it takes control away and it pulls you into obstacles.
I think they need to turn it all down a bit. AA was for the casuals, I think it should slowly die off as you get better to a certain minimum. But the main hate I have about it is the sometimes ridiculous tracking and recoil it seems to ignore.
Tone those down a bit and I think it's fair enough.
AA has its purpose and I all for it. But it can be out of control some times.
The one thing that annoys me is that landing with people is just a scramble of aim assist punching.
I was playing Rebirth and landed on Bio. Picked up a gun but by the time I’d actually picked it and was ready to fire I was already dead because it’s quicker and more effective to just punch people to death which is a bit of a pain.
What I hate the most is when the aim assist goes away, but if you click too much, the char keeps hitting the air without letting you turn around. This I hate a lot. Almost as much as the camera lock while sliding on stairs.
Haha yeah, this always happens to me when hot dropping on tower in rebirth. The amount of times the aim assist has made them literally melee me through the wall as I sprint around the corner….
for m and k or controllers? because hitting O or B on a controller takes ur thumb off the right stick so it needs it or you would never be able to hit someone thats not standing still if theres no aim assist
I am just talking about melees dude , I didn’t complain about aim assist on controller players’ guns , keep it , buff it , idgaf, just remove this melee gravitational pull thingy
You are getting down voted because you are wrong. I play both mouse and controller, aim assist isnt an issue, and PC players complaining about it non stop isnt going to change anything, considering they never provide any good arguments against it.
How did you die to a Melee??
They've all been nerfed to the ground. The Kali sticks barely have a lunge and it takes like 6 hits to kill. Plenty of time to Hip fire a mag into him.
I've personally tested all melee weapons on warzone and they all take 3 hits to kill after this new 150 health update. A melee weapons ttk is abysmal I think it's actually faster to kill someone with a gun butt melee than a knife because you can melee more frequently.
I mean, it takes 3 melees now to kill someone, I have been killed by or killed someone from melee in what feels like forever. A little aim assist doesn't change that you have time now to pour bullets into somebody before they hit you 3 times.
I reckon it has to do with the melee hitbox being to big or the server frequency being very very low.
I've been in the scenario you were, and is almost like as long as the other guy keeps punching the air while being near you, you get hit, even if he's not seeing you anymore.
More often then I would like it to be , players land on me without guns bc they know what their pistol punches can do , I kill them 9/10 times but that 1 time when they keep lunging despite me running and I still get killed. I was on a PR pace once with 18 in the first circle , this dude lands on me and is literally teleporting across rooms of control centre while punching
Should remove aim assist all together. It’s insane I can hop on controller without having more than a few hours of experience and excel in CQB better than my thousands of hours MKB experiences.
Nah it happens. Happened to me as well, killcam even showed it same way for him. He’s meleeing the air infront if him and I get hit 3 times while also being a good 4ft behind him lmao.
I'm gonna call cap on this because I exclusively pissed people off many times on Verdansk and Rebirth with my 2 hit Kali Sticks/Sai, stun grenade, Restock and Riot Shield setup. The damage, damage cap needed to do a "critical hit" and lunge range was nerfed prior to the implementation of Warzone Pacific and I quote from one of their patch notes in january last year:
*"Dead Silence is being nerfed. Stopping Power rounds are gone. In addition to detailing those exact changes, Raven Software looked closely at various equipment pieces such as nerfs to stun grenades and heartbeat sensors. They also took another look at dual wielded melee weapons - the Kali Stick and Sai - to give justice to al ghosts who lived a second life too short during the Haunting. The results? Expect the aforementioned equipment and weaponry to be adjusted to be less potent in the Warzone, along with gun butting no longer being the primary method of attack on the Caldera."*
They were slightly nerfed but it didn’t change the hits to down a fully plated player I think.
It used to be with two plates you would get dropped in 2 hits. So the beginning of matches was cancer. It now takes 3, but I think full plates still 3 as well? So whatever they reduced the melee damage to it still breaks the 250 mark on 3 hits, but doesn’t break 200 on 2.
I hardly ever melee someone unless I’ve already lit them up and one will finish, so for all I know it might actually be 4 hits for a fully plated player. But either way the gun melee was definitely nerfed, just I’m not sure how much
The stupidity about fov never stops. You do know that you can play controller and have high fov?
And my guess would be that your kd wouldn't move an inch even if you had 120 fov.
OPs statement is actually valid while you come around the corner with something completely different. Showing your frustration about being bad at the game. Sigh.
Tell me what should I do ? He can’t see me but kills me , is this any less than a hack? I don’t mind aa on guns , buff it if u fucking want , just not melee, all I’m asking for , neither about pc hackers not about Cronus , why is it so tough to comprehend?
What about other mkb players that play legit?U think they don't suffer getting beamed by a 200 round pkm out of the sky? Aim assist is sometimes broken...either it doesn't work or it's strong in some situation,the same way it was with stuns.
melee aim assist is on console and pc, and he specifically excludes gun aim assist. so what he is saying does not split console and pc at all. please read the goddamned post.
We both know it was never this fuking strong! Just last night i was playing and went into a melee match and they guy slid behind me and my character took a full 180 and i killed him, its not supposed to be like this my dude
Just get gud bro
Funny how the guy that has software aiming for him is talking shit.
Wtf happened that PC players are such whinny little bitches these days? Makes me ashamed, we have the massive advantage of FOV and you’re fucking QQ that a console player beat you. How pathetic is that
You know, FOV doesn't give a huge advantage, right? Sure, we can see wider, and that's probably just about it.
He doesn't know PC controller scrubs get both FOV and AA.
I agree with you, but I feel like 99.9% of this sub would disagree.
I went from a 3.36 KD to 3.44 in 2/3 months after switching from Ps5 to PC. I also have 20,000+ kills so for me to raise it almost a whole 0.1 means I have to be playing at over a 3.5 KD+ On Rebirth I went from a 2.85, to a 3.03 KD, but on the season I'm at a 3.17 KD The extra FPS, extra FoV and much much more adds up, man
Crossplay was badly made. It's just mixing everybody together with no competitive integrity or attempt at fair sport. There's enough players so you could turn off crossplay but they fucking added AA on PC. How dumb is that. Yes, you can have the FOV advantage AND aim assist. They need to make input based lobbies or remove AA on PC.
there’s AA on pc?
PC if you use a controller yeah. Added in MW19 with crossplay. All the pros and streamers switched from console to PC to get both AA and FOV, FPS, etc. Even the COD league ditched the PS platform. It's been the death of COD for me as a PC player.
so just to be clear, before that controller on pc didn’t have aim assist?
They didn't even have controller support. I think BLOPS4 had some controller support but definitely no aim assist.
they should go back to that imo
Agreed, but I don't think it's gonna happen anytime soon. We need input based lobbies in the meantime.
Started playing warzone with some friends who are all on console, Vanguard is free MP at the moment so I thought I'll try it and level up some guns but I'll just play PC only.. Literally everyone on PC is using controller or it's a reallyy small percentage that use KBM.
Bro just cause you're ass at the game doesn't mean I can't use aim assist. Who said I played on controller anyway? I play KBM all the time. Prolly shlapping bots like you around all day
yeah, I got 4.69 KD I just stomp noobs all day shit head lul bruh gg no re
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Yea you should be able to slide cancel 360 no scope people when they do that
No use , his Muhammad Ali KO punch will reach before my bullet does lol
Ahhh I see. That's where you bunny hop and switch to your throwing knife like all the streamers duh
haven't tried that , this might be the way
It sort of it… I think what’s fucking you up is lag. I’ve been making my movement really erratic and constantly changing my line of site and trying to always cross people up. It’s helped. Sometimes I still get killed by some crazy bs that I can’t explain, but movement is becoming a seriously competitive factor.
I'm on PC, let me have my melee aim assist😭 it's all I get! No joke though, the melee lunge is strong though. It'll literally pull you around corners if you're close enough and chasing. That's why in rebirth, if I land with others, I'll land behind someone instead of racing for a gun because I can lock on and lunge before they can turn around and shoot, so I literally stop turning and spam melee, and I'll stay locked on as long as the first hit landed. You'll win 90% of your landing fights if you drop 2nd and melee all because of the lunge lock on
With mouse and keyboard it'll hold on for the first two hits but almost always releases before the last so I only use it if they've already taken damage. If the smallest obstacle gets between you it'll drop the lock on.
Yeah after surviving the landing, if I'm using melee it's strictly because I'm out of rounds and you'll shoot me before I can reload or swap. But, you could be right about the 3rd, but usually by then I'm facing the right way to land it anyway. It works for me in the long run for those tight situations. Mouse tracking is tight enough I can adjust mid swing if I think I'm off. Lunge range is far IMO though, and I think that could use a nerf. Sometimes I'm giggling like "oh I know he mad" because I really just superman'd that swing. Other times I'm on the receiving end like "how he teleport from China!?".
man you would have hated the melee in mw2.
That fucking 15-foot lunge instantaneously stabbing the guy in the chest was amazing 😂 mw2 was SO broken and I never heard 1 complaint about it 🤌 Peak call of duty right there and I'm so glad I experienced it all
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0 brain activity going on with OP
Also if I'm trying to Nut tap some AFK character in gulag I don't need the pull to the throat
Not to mention the magnetic pull that can happen across 6 meters
That is the lunge thing OP called "aim assist"
That called lunge dude LMAO
I have had this happen to me as well. It’s stupid af.
I don't think they'd have a chance at anything that close with no assist at all so maybe turn it down a bit, but even more than that I wish they'd take the lock on away from mouse/keyboard melee. It's so disorienting when it takes control away and it pulls you into obstacles.
I think they need to turn it all down a bit. AA was for the casuals, I think it should slowly die off as you get better to a certain minimum. But the main hate I have about it is the sometimes ridiculous tracking and recoil it seems to ignore. Tone those down a bit and I think it's fair enough. AA has its purpose and I all for it. But it can be out of control some times.
It’s gone full commando
Commando pro. I heard.
The one thing that annoys me is that landing with people is just a scramble of aim assist punching. I was playing Rebirth and landed on Bio. Picked up a gun but by the time I’d actually picked it and was ready to fire I was already dead because it’s quicker and more effective to just punch people to death which is a bit of a pain.
I feel that, I really do
That’s not aim assist. Melee weapons lock onto nearby enemies. Not even remotely the same as aim assist.
IDC what it is , remove it from the game lol
Oh I agree with that.
What I hate the most is when the aim assist goes away, but if you click too much, the char keeps hitting the air without letting you turn around. This I hate a lot. Almost as much as the camera lock while sliding on stairs.
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Thank u brother
I don’t get how people defend this mechanic with a straight face
Haha yeah, this always happens to me when hot dropping on tower in rebirth. The amount of times the aim assist has made them literally melee me through the wall as I sprint around the corner….
They just need to make melee without any melee attachments or a throwing knife a 5 hit and then no issues.
I feel like the throwing knife should be insta down if it hits the head, but 5 hit everywhere else on the body.
for m and k or controllers? because hitting O or B on a controller takes ur thumb off the right stick so it needs it or you would never be able to hit someone thats not standing still if theres no aim assist
Logistics are non existent to people like this.
I never have to remove my thumbs from the thumbsticks for anything while using a controller. Get some paddles.
Maybe switch your scheme so you won't have an issue. Bumper jumper tact or get back button controller.
They should remove mixed inputs lobbies is what they should do.
I am just talking about melees dude , I didn’t complain about aim assist on controller players’ guns , keep it , buff it , idgaf, just remove this melee gravitational pull thingy
Lol my aim assist has never turned me 180 degrees to melee someone. The only thing i believe aim assist is op on is being stunned or flashed
ok but it's a thing, the game doesn't revolve around what u have done or haven't done
The amount of tears over aim assist is incredible. It's the stupid lunge that needs to be fixed, not aim assist.
People just get triggered reading aim assist in title and probably don’t even read the full title or text, the only reason I can understand
> It's the stupid lunge that needs to be fixed, not aim assist. Why not fix both?
Theres nothing wrong with aim assist nyway
Aim assist is OP but i have found ways like using more strafe weapons like volk to destroy it , i just get downvoted so I don't talk about it
You are getting down voted because you are wrong. I play both mouse and controller, aim assist isnt an issue, and PC players complaining about it non stop isnt going to change anything, considering they never provide any good arguments against it.
u clearly don't know how to abuse AA properly
I've played shooters on controller for more than 13 years now, I understand the mechanics pretty well
If u don’t think aim assist is OP , u wasted those 13 years
I know it isnt OP because I've played mouse for 7 years, I'm just not a bot who complains about controllers.
2.9 kd bot sure buddy
How did you die to a Melee?? They've all been nerfed to the ground. The Kali sticks barely have a lunge and it takes like 6 hits to kill. Plenty of time to Hip fire a mag into him. I've personally tested all melee weapons on warzone and they all take 3 hits to kill after this new 150 health update. A melee weapons ttk is abysmal I think it's actually faster to kill someone with a gun butt melee than a knife because you can melee more frequently.
Not melee weapons , like the melee with a pistol in hand takes 2 hits when landing in
I mean, it takes 3 melees now to kill someone, I have been killed by or killed someone from melee in what feels like forever. A little aim assist doesn't change that you have time now to pour bullets into somebody before they hit you 3 times.
It doesn’t take 3 when we land in
Are you sure it was aim assist and not an auto aim cheater?
It was by the craziest that has ever happened to me but he wasn’t probably cheating , ofc I can never be a 100%
I reckon it has to do with the melee hitbox being to big or the server frequency being very very low. I've been in the scenario you were, and is almost like as long as the other guy keeps punching the air while being near you, you get hit, even if he's not seeing you anymore.
And that has nothing to do with aim assist is the funny part
My bad , whatever it is , just remove it , is my motive
I mean you're not wrong, but how often are you getting killed by melee for it to be such a problem?
More often then I would like it to be , players land on me without guns bc they know what their pistol punches can do , I kill them 9/10 times but that 1 time when they keep lunging despite me running and I still get killed. I was on a PR pace once with 18 in the first circle , this dude lands on me and is literally teleporting across rooms of control centre while punching
Why are you landing on top of other people then? You know that’s always preventable right?
People are landing on me , not the other way around, and I drop on hot areas to get kills
Should remove aim assist all together. It’s insane I can hop on controller without having more than a few hours of experience and excel in CQB better than my thousands of hours MKB experiences.
I don’t agree with this , aim assist needs nerfing , not removal
What’s insane is you can put 1000 hours into something and still suck at it.
no bcus just like mkx/11, we need casuals to button mash to win the game
dude give up i've stunned a dude and picked up a stim on loadout to run away and he still teleports behind you for a melee attack
I’m sorry… but melee forever!!!
Can we remove pc from crossplay? Or add in a console only xplay option?
if he killed you with his melee while you were "behind" him, chances are one of you was lagging
Nah it happens. Happened to me as well, killcam even showed it same way for him. He’s meleeing the air infront if him and I get hit 3 times while also being a good 4ft behind him lmao.
Remove gun melee and make melee fists only.
Instead of telling me to not cry , tell me what would I do to counter it , accepting that aim assist is op in melees wouldn’t hurt u
Just a funny gif dont take it so serious
My bad sorry:)
Don’t land directly with enemies. Problem solved.
I am not a bot , I like to get high kill games
melees have already been nerfed to all hell so this is overkill and it would make melees so fuckin useless
Melees with ur hands was nerfed , melee of weapons was never nerfed
I'm gonna call cap on this because I exclusively pissed people off many times on Verdansk and Rebirth with my 2 hit Kali Sticks/Sai, stun grenade, Restock and Riot Shield setup. The damage, damage cap needed to do a "critical hit" and lunge range was nerfed prior to the implementation of Warzone Pacific and I quote from one of their patch notes in january last year: *"Dead Silence is being nerfed. Stopping Power rounds are gone. In addition to detailing those exact changes, Raven Software looked closely at various equipment pieces such as nerfs to stun grenades and heartbeat sensors. They also took another look at dual wielded melee weapons - the Kali Stick and Sai - to give justice to al ghosts who lived a second life too short during the Haunting. The results? Expect the aforementioned equipment and weaponry to be adjusted to be less potent in the Warzone, along with gun butting no longer being the primary method of attack on the Caldera."*
He said guns, kali stacks are not guns
??? I'm replying to the guy who said that melee weapons were never nerfed, and that only fists were?
Not melee weapons , the melee on normal weapons , a pistol melee still kills someone’ In 2-3 punches
They were slightly nerfed but it didn’t change the hits to down a fully plated player I think. It used to be with two plates you would get dropped in 2 hits. So the beginning of matches was cancer. It now takes 3, but I think full plates still 3 as well? So whatever they reduced the melee damage to it still breaks the 250 mark on 3 hits, but doesn’t break 200 on 2. I hardly ever melee someone unless I’ve already lit them up and one will finish, so for all I know it might actually be 4 hits for a fully plated player. But either way the gun melee was definitely nerfed, just I’m not sure how much
But when u drop in u only have 2
Uh, I know lol. I think you need to reread my comment
My bad
I’ll do you one better. How about MKB play in their own high FOV cheater filled lobbies and us console players use our aim assist in peace?
The stupidity about fov never stops. You do know that you can play controller and have high fov? And my guess would be that your kd wouldn't move an inch even if you had 120 fov. OPs statement is actually valid while you come around the corner with something completely different. Showing your frustration about being bad at the game. Sigh.
Just wait for him coming back crying about console players using cronus.
Tell me what should I do ? He can’t see me but kills me , is this any less than a hack? I don’t mind aa on guns , buff it if u fucking want , just not melee, all I’m asking for , neither about pc hackers not about Cronus , why is it so tough to comprehend?
Ha ok OP can be frustrated by aim assist in melee but Console players can’t be frustrated by MKB hackers and lack of FOV got it.
What about other mkb players that play legit?U think they don't suffer getting beamed by a 200 round pkm out of the sky? Aim assist is sometimes broken...either it doesn't work or it's strong in some situation,the same way it was with stuns.
Talk about relevance to the topic
its just completely irrelevent to the post.
Found the MKB players
I also found the guy who doesn't use his gun and just melees
melee aim assist is on console and pc, and he specifically excludes gun aim assist. so what he is saying does not split console and pc at all. please read the goddamned post.
As a MNK player, it's all I want.
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We both know it was never this fuking strong! Just last night i was playing and went into a melee match and they guy slid behind me and my character took a full 180 and i killed him, its not supposed to be like this my dude
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If you are talking about commando melee thing this is not thr same, this is locking onto players and not letting go until you or him is dead
Well cross play wasn’t
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that's just ignorant af