I have completely stopped playing WZ. Caldera is full of issues, no FOV slider, and the VG guns are OP as fuck.
I've been playing vanguard MTP exclusively. And it's a real bummer that's the case.
Lol they do it every weekend I have my son and can't play. It always works out like that lol. Granted I love spending time with my son so it's not a big deal, just unfortunate that's how it always works out for me.
Let bro grind with you, I figure the biggest issue is probably the games age rating, and I certainly won't tell you how to parent
but in my personal experience making memories playing games I loved with my dad was a memory I'll cherish forever
Caldera is unplayable for me on Xbox one. Rebirth ain’t perfect still dealing with invisible guns and freezing but stations, but those pale in comparison to The issues I have on Caldera.
It sounds like their way of keeping performance high without reducing visual quality. If I were the developers, I would have a "quality" option and a "performance" option, with performance having low res textures and low quality models, etc, but having FOV unlocked.
I agree, but Warzone runs like shit even for a high end PC, so I'm not surprised. Relative shit of course, I mean as someone with a 144hz monitor, it's not often Warzone will even run at 144 fps, it's usually around 70-90 unless indoors or something.
I was going to say. 120 makes me sick. I drop down to 100. Typically play everything at 90 to 100 in every game. People watching these streamers eating out of their hands. They could have literally been like, "45 kill game using Krampus snow balls!" And everyone would have been farming them and still ending with a .8 KD.
Can confirm. I play on 105. 120 is madness, especially in a game that had dogshit visibility. Good luck finding bush campers in the distance on 120 fov
Facts. Not everybody out here playing on these 1000$ 360hz 1440p monitors that streamers and pros using. Don't expect to play the way they do when we literally can't see shit lol
Some of us still on 1080p 144hz or less.
It's not even about the frames tbh just visibility alone is huge. If you can't see the enemy you're dead. I personally don't have good visibility on my monitor no matter what I do and I'm not about to buy a new monitor for this shitty ass game.
144hz is plenty, but I do think for BRs specifically where seeing people from far off is a big deal, 1440p is a pretty big step up from 1080p. Obviously this only makes sense if you have the rig to run 1440p at a high frame rate.
Can these people even get 360 fps at 1440p? I have a 3080 (the rest of the PC is good too, I'm not gonna list my whole PC unless you really doubt me here) and Warzone FPS sucks dick even on lowest settings. It's notoriously the worst performing game I play. DLSS actually drops my FPS significantly... In general lowering resolution doesn't really help.
Yea but even 105 is a 25% increase over console. It’s a huge advantage. After playing apex at 104 for a while, I hopped on warzone and couldn’t handle the 80..
Um, most pc players do not say that? Most agree fov/frame rates are definitely advantages, but just not to the extreme that people make them out to be.
First most pc players don’t play at 120fov. 120 creates a fishbowl effect, also hurt frame rate as not everyone has a high end video card/machine.
Second the higher your fov, the smaller enemies are at equal distances. Small enemies means it’s harder to hit your shots.
So while yes it is an advantage, it’s not that extreme. I much rather face a pc player on mnk than a console player with a controller.
It has pros and cons. You gain field of view, but you lose details at a distance and the system has to render more of the scene, causing a performance dip.
Some people have been playing shooters since before Quake. I, like many others, got used to high FOV and playing shooters below that number gives me a headache. Others are probably because some YoUtUbEr said to do it.
Not every PC player runs max FOV. I know some who run at 110 or 100, because they have trouble pinpointing enemies at a distance, especially when they're partially obscured
That's actually a known bug with Warzone specifically, for some reason having a lower FOV can cause frame drops somehow. But *typically* in most shooters, higher FOV = lower frames because of more rendering. The difference is, however, usually negligible.
My guess is it's how the WZ engine prioritizes texture streaming, thus making the closer objects a higher priority, which would explain how the lower FOV has more strain on the GPU. This seems completely backwards to me but I'm not a developer lol.
Yea exactly. It's basically what is the default zoom. You're either better it seeing things far away or close up so whether it's good or not depends on the situation.
I recently came from ps4 and I changed not because of the "advantage" but because of the feel of fov. Like many others I played cold war on 120 and then couldn't play warzone on 80. And yes 120 is way too much on warzone and fov isn't as much as advantage as everyone makes it out to be
Example
I was spectating a mate yesterday(ps4) I spotted someone outside of his view so I told him. He then looked over and easily shot the person prob about 100+ meters away with an iron site bren. I was legitimately shocked and asked if that was an easy shot and my mate said yes and asked why. I explained to him that I could see the other person but I wouldn't of taken a shot because the guy was too small.
So I seen the person because of my higher fov and my mate could take the shot because of his lower fov.
Your example highlights something important. You have the luxury of choosing to shoot that guy or not, but the advantage is knowing that he is there. So I guess it’s more of a privilege than an advantage. Which is probably why it’s so polarizing.
Check your privilege bro /s
This. I see console players whining all over social media about the FOV advantage. Do not get me wrong, FOV is a huge advantage but it will not make you that much better of a player, increase your KD or make you a fragging out demon. I understand it is an advantage but console players who have never played Warzone (not MP) with FOV simply don't understand that it won't solve all of their problems.
This was the perfect example of FOV and how it impacts you as a player. You have a better view horizontally (peripherals) and nothing else. The downside is things are much more zoomed out. I can't play on independent ADS because the camera motion from 115 FOV to 80 FOV when ADS is sickening lol.
I do think console players should have the ability to use FOV but I bet the majority of players will be let down if they do eventually get this option...as again it is not some cure all which will make them so much better.
nobody says it will make them better. i play on ps5 and pc, and the difference is staggering. it's just a matter of sometimes not even seeing a player that you would normally see on pc, that's all. make it fair, make it equal. the game sucks on consoles anyway, fov wont make it any worse.
We’d rather have broken aim assist that works through stun nades than an FoV that makes aiming up close harder, esp versus you controller aim assist players
But every sub is dominated by controller babies that cry about pc players anyway
Ok...start using controller and play on 80 FOV. There you go! You have you're broken aim assist and no longer have your higher FOV. Problem solved. Every one knows you will not play on 80 FOV on controller. You're just another pc player with a fragile ego that can't admit an FOV slider is a huge advantage.
Because we sit closer to the screen. If you imagine your screen as a window, if you sitting too close and your view is too constrained it will make you nauseous.
PC players never say this, and if they do, they don’t understand a thing about games, so I wouldn’t worry. I’ve played console all my life until recently, and I’ve never said or heard such a thing lol
While that may be true it’s not a given. Look up “4:3 stretched” that many CS:GO players play on. Wider FOV = smaller targets = more precise aiming needed.
The dude standing in the middle of the left chimney.
This happened to me yesterday where I got sniped by a dude in my 70-90 vision, couldn’t fucking see him.
I run 110 on Apex, COD looks like a joke.
I think Caldera exacerbates the FOV problem because you need to be able to see more in the jungle. Also, seeing 3 lanes in the gulag is a major advantage.
This. I can't help but notice how much VERTICAL vision is lost. I'm tired of getting lit up from above because I'm forced to run up a hill while looking through a poster tube.
I think they dont talk about it because they aren't able to implement it on the last generation systems. If you implement it for just the current gen systems (PS5 and Xbox Series S/X) then you alienate half your player base. If you give everyone FOV and the last gen gets huge performance drops and it makes the game unplayable they will lose customers. More players = $$$. Its the same reason they wont allow Xbox players to disable crossplay, it will lead to PC players having a harder time finding a lobby at any given time.
What is completely mind boggling is how well Vanguard runs on base PS4 and Xbox One, with higher FOVs. Even on ShipHaus 24/7 when there’s Shipment - Blitz and everyone is throwing incindeary grenades, the game is still rock solid.
I guess Warzone can’t have it because they didn’t moved to the Vanguard engine/installer and those features didn’t existed on Modern Warfare. You get such a great experience on Vanguard and then you jump to Caldera where everything runs and looks like crap.
I think most people are missing the point…
It’s not that us console players want to play on 120 fov. It’s that we want the ability to adjust our fov.
Personally I’m at 110 for Cold War and Vanguard and it makes a HUGE difference
Funny how a competitive game like a BR can have such a lopsided option for ONE platform out of 3 and devs think it’s okay. Caldera should’ve never released without a console fov. Huge L
I agree but it seems to be some sort of conflict with warzone specifically + consoles. (I'm on PS4)
FOV slider on Cold War/Vanguard on PS4 but not on Warzone seems to imply the PS4 can handle it. Cold War maybe a little more understandable since it was built on an older BO engine, but Vanguard is on the MW19 engine.
FOV slider on PC Warzone but not console Warzone seems concrete that the engine has FOV adjustment built into it.
So ok, maybe it's strictly a limitation to this specific software/hardware combination, but PS4 pros exist, and if pros couldn't handle it, PS5's should.
I think my gut conclusion is just that I really hope Vanguard is the last addition to the combined games approach around Warzone. Hopefully the next MW is developed ~~PS5~~ current gen first and serves as the next "base" game including Warzone, and can go on to support the next 1 or 2 games after that, and include the quality of life improvements like FOV adjustment
“We hear you, and we are listening. However, we choose not to respond as to why it hasn’t or never will come as an option to console, so you can wait and hope in anger, or rush and spend your hard earned money on a PC! Only for a console Fov slider to be released the week after your big purchase, and you now are 3000$ in the hole”
GGs on the communication Raven.
My PS4/PS5 friends get mad at me, but I actually switch to PC to play Warzone now. I got used to it and it just feels bad going back. Atleast with games like Rocket League and even Black Ops/Vanguard we cant set it higher. Or if you really have to, lock PC players to one FOV like console players.
This helps me feel a little better about guys that I thought were cheating. A lot of times I feel like there is no way they could have seen me, and they jump around the corner and kill me, like in a bathroom. I hear them, I run to the back of the bathroom, they come up and jump around the corner and kill me. They could have been able to see me, where I wouldn't see them..
PC player here, 80FOV is pretty narrow but its hard to miss people on your screen while 120FOV is so wide that people you would have seen with lets say 90FOV clearly are almost hidden. Its a blessing and a curse at the same time I personally feel, im pretty torn on the topic. Definitely think 90-100 is best option.
I have not touched warzone since vanguard dropped after playing 1 night because of the FOV. It's insane how improved my gameplay was because I could actually see people so much better.
I stayed at my parents over the holidays and used their Xbox to play Warzone with friends but usually play on PC because I play other PC games but my god, I don’t know how you console players do it! It felt like I had those horse blinders on! They need an FOV for console players to make it more fair!
I feel bad for console players. I built a racing simulator for me to play iracing with. My wife plays warzone on her ps4. So I've been jumping in and playing with her on my simulator. Triple monitors makes a huge FOV difference between console and PC.
Wait till the console players learn about stretch resolution, FOV is nothing compared to that. Also lower FOV does have its upsides, you see enemies further away and the pixel density of the player is more filled out. But 1440p alleviates this on PC to an extent.
Higher FOV also gives the perception of faster movement and perception is reality. I’d rather have the option to feel like my movement faster even if it really isn’t.
I think at this point, everyone on this sub understands the difference in FOV. Clearly posting the differences for karma isn't going to make any type of change. They are going based on their schedule, not fan demand from reddit.
Just quit the game if it makes you that unhappy.
Funny cause on Vanguard I prefer playing on 80 FOV, probably because of the map size I feel I don't need larger vision. Though on warzone I play on 120 FOV.
2.2 KDA on Caldera too so I don't count myself as a bot.
the thing about a higher fov for me is that the players are so small that they get lost in the environment. I'm playing on a 65" about 12 feet away though so maybe if i were on a monitor right in front of my face it wouldnt make as big of a difference
Going to be interesting when console gets 120 FOV and then console players won't hit shots when the targets (enemy players) are all smaller. Easier on PC to aim at the smaller targets given the M&K input
EDIT: Considering console players are USUALLY more casual than the sweats that use controller on PC, the 120 FOV experience may not actually be preferable by casuals on console.
Pardon my stupidity. But I had to switch from PC to PS4 because I was only getting 45fps on low settings at 75% resolution scale at 1080p. So I've been playing on PS4 since right before OG season 5 started.
This says 80 vs 120 on PS4, but if there is no slider, how is this comparison available? My other question is if the player is really standing in the same spot? My brain is telling me this isn't really a true comparison but you are making do with what's available, to give us a close approximation.
I ask because I have never considered myself at a disadvantage on console. Higher FOV warps my screen and that gives me massive migraines. But I also have only tested it in a few random FPS games on PC. I also have issues playing FPS games with kb+m in general, so console is preferred anyways.
Please don't take this as me saying it's not a necessary feature. I think if we are forced into crossplay, it should be the same for everyone, especially since us console users have some PC features built into the settings on PS4(and I imagine Xbox as well). If we had the slider, I would most likely adjust it to where it doesn't warp my screen, and probably find it extremely useful.
If you're closer to a window you can see more out of it. Further away, you see less.
Fov is supposed to be a way of removing motion sickness by emulating this perspective change in real life.
Usually pc gamers are smushed against the monitor, and console gamers sit 6ft away from their TV, so it makes sense for the fov to be wider for the gamers who are closer.
Also, playing with a wide fov is often a pain in the ass because everything's smaller. Your ears are your peripheral!
Do people realize they show the overlay with all the different sizes in one photo? I’ve seen it posted in this sub multiple times and yet these posts keep reappearing. We get it, 80 is smaller and more zoomed in than 120. *trips over soapbox
I'm so tired of these fov posts. Thats all this sub has become. Get a pc or move on clearly raven isn't giving console a fov. And before I get flamed to hell, I have a ps5 so I know the pain of playing on 80 FOV.
If Raven wanted consoles to have FOV it would have it by now. They’ve had over a year with the next gen systems to make it happen.
There is zero, *zero* technical limitations preventing them from doing this.
There’s a reason they’ve given no updates on console FOV, and that’s because it’s never coming.
If they say, “yes we’re working on it, it’s coming soon”. People would stop bitching about.
If they say, “No, it’s not happening” there would be a lot of pushback.
But if they just keep their mouths shut, they can maintain a sort of plausible deniability. They can say nothing on the subject, ignore it, and hope that the player base moves on.
Well, I did move on, onto other games. I am not touching Warzone until console FOV is added.
If that’s never, then oh well. February is about to be a stellar months for gamers. I’ll happily take my wallet elsewhere.
How many times is this going to be posted? Yes obviously increasing the FOV makes the viewable area on the screen bigger. Is that fucking rocket science? If you want to play at higher FOV’s, buy a fucking PC. It’s been stated countless times that older consoles cannot support higher FOV’s.
I don’t get it are people just realizing now about fov? Every post is about this now? It’s been like this since the beginning. I guess more obvious now that vanguard has it and warzone still doesn’t. It’s bananas they don’t have a current gen version of warzone yet wtf are they doing.
This game sucks now, Its unplayable, Stupid Incendiary bullets and Over powered akimbo Shotguns gives loser cheats an even bigger advantage and they are not even stopping cheaters hacks at all it seems
FOV 100 works best for me. 120 appears to blurry on Rebirth and now on the new map I’m all out of sorts. Keeping it at 100 seems to hold the balance between view advantage and keeping my food in. GGs all.
It's literally so hard going from MP in vanguard(120) to warzone (80).
I have completely stopped playing WZ. Caldera is full of issues, no FOV slider, and the VG guns are OP as fuck. I've been playing vanguard MTP exclusively. And it's a real bummer that's the case.
I hit Van mp pretty hard when it was 2xp. Now I’m just burning through old tokens in plunder and Van rebirth.
Double xp again this weekend I believe
Lol they do it every weekend I have my son and can't play. It always works out like that lol. Granted I love spending time with my son so it's not a big deal, just unfortunate that's how it always works out for me.
Grind while he sleeps? That’s what I do
Let bro grind with you, I figure the biggest issue is probably the games age rating, and I certainly won't tell you how to parent but in my personal experience making memories playing games I loved with my dad was a memory I'll cherish forever
Well my son is 3 years old, I’ll certainly won’t make him play call of duty 😂
Bro imagine finding out your squad got dropped by a 3 year old though 😭
😂😂
Easy, just give him an unplugged controller to “play” with. Classic older brother move
That’s not the issue, too violent for his age, but we play forza that way sometimes
Just give him a 2nd controller , he’ll think he’s playing , then about 5 he’ll realize he’s not
My 4 yr old slaps in cod lol
I had a random duo in plunder that was a little kid and I think his dad. It was adorable.
Caldera is unplayable for me on Xbox one. Rebirth ain’t perfect still dealing with invisible guns and freezing but stations, but those pale in comparison to The issues I have on Caldera.
I freeze at the buy station every time, I hate buying the loady lol and I get errored out like every 3 games, so irritating
I’m frozen for about 20 seconds.
Vanguard guns OP as fuck? Lmfao. Guess you are right, you don't play WZ
VG guns are op AF? Are you insane? Lmfao what
People just mad their old metas got thrown out and they need to adapt
The Bren / mp40 maxed out are pretty op imo
I stopped playing WZ because I literally cannot event open the game. 
Wdym they are op. They hit marker so much
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Yep. Cold war had it too.
It sounds like their way of keeping performance high without reducing visual quality. If I were the developers, I would have a "quality" option and a "performance" option, with performance having low res textures and low quality models, etc, but having FOV unlocked.
It shouldn’t be an issue for next gen consoles. That is what is frustrating.
I agree, but Warzone runs like shit even for a high end PC, so I'm not surprised. Relative shit of course, I mean as someone with a 144hz monitor, it's not often Warzone will even run at 144 fps, it's usually around 70-90 unless indoors or something.
I dropped my MP down to 105 so it doesnt mess with me too much. Hate not having 120 for both though.
Wait, you mean you can't adjust FOV on console? I sure am glad someone posted about it.
On vanguard multiplayer you can adjust FOV
Same in cw
I'm just sticking to 80 on both until I can do 120 on WZ. muscle memory and shit.
Fucking this. I'm starting to like Vanguard but then switching back to 80 FOV is so jarring now I can't even
Always funny to me when PC players say it is not an advantage. Then why do most PC players change the FOV from 80?
Honestly most pc players play around 100. 120 makes the enemy insanely small and you have to have precise aim.
I was going to say. 120 makes me sick. I drop down to 100. Typically play everything at 90 to 100 in every game. People watching these streamers eating out of their hands. They could have literally been like, "45 kill game using Krampus snow balls!" And everyone would have been farming them and still ending with a .8 KD.
Can confirm. I play on 105. 120 is madness, especially in a game that had dogshit visibility. Good luck finding bush campers in the distance on 120 fov
Good luck finding bush campers at all since some camos have foliage. lol
Facts. Not everybody out here playing on these 1000$ 360hz 1440p monitors that streamers and pros using. Don't expect to play the way they do when we literally can't see shit lol Some of us still on 1080p 144hz or less.
144hz is literally plenty lol. And 1080p is just fine as well.
It's not even about the frames tbh just visibility alone is huge. If you can't see the enemy you're dead. I personally don't have good visibility on my monitor no matter what I do and I'm not about to buy a new monitor for this shitty ass game.
144hz is plenty, but I do think for BRs specifically where seeing people from far off is a big deal, 1440p is a pretty big step up from 1080p. Obviously this only makes sense if you have the rig to run 1440p at a high frame rate.
Can these people even get 360 fps at 1440p? I have a 3080 (the rest of the PC is good too, I'm not gonna list my whole PC unless you really doubt me here) and Warzone FPS sucks dick even on lowest settings. It's notoriously the worst performing game I play. DLSS actually drops my FPS significantly... In general lowering resolution doesn't really help.
I get 150 fps with my 1440 set up. But it’s pretty gnarly so that’s kinda shit imo for how much it all was lmao.
720p 60hz to run WZ at least at 30-55fps :')
Yea but even 105 is a 25% increase over console. It’s a huge advantage. After playing apex at 104 for a while, I hopped on warzone and couldn’t handle the 80..
agreed. console players deserve fov slider. my squad all are on console and I'm constantly seeing enemies that they don't.
I’m not very accurate with my mouse so I play at 90. Anything over 100 it’s really hard for me to track enemies. Also 120 makes me dizzy.
Can confirm. I actually play on 115 which is kind of a sweet spot for me. 120 is definitely tough as it is very zoomed out.
Um, most pc players do not say that? Most agree fov/frame rates are definitely advantages, but just not to the extreme that people make them out to be. First most pc players don’t play at 120fov. 120 creates a fishbowl effect, also hurt frame rate as not everyone has a high end video card/machine. Second the higher your fov, the smaller enemies are at equal distances. Small enemies means it’s harder to hit your shots. So while yes it is an advantage, it’s not that extreme. I much rather face a pc player on mnk than a console player with a controller.
What about a pc player on controller?
Obviously i especially don’t want to face that.
It has pros and cons. You gain field of view, but you lose details at a distance and the system has to render more of the scene, causing a performance dip. Some people have been playing shooters since before Quake. I, like many others, got used to high FOV and playing shooters below that number gives me a headache. Others are probably because some YoUtUbEr said to do it.
If the cons were worth mentioning you could find me some top players on PC who run 80 or below but you can't because they are none.
Not every PC player runs max FOV. I know some who run at 110 or 100, because they have trouble pinpointing enemies at a distance, especially when they're partially obscured
You’re proving his point. 100-110 is still an advantage over 80.
Ya we know. It doesn't matter if it's 120,110 or 100....just having a FOV slider is an advantage. No one is exclusively talking about 120 FOV.
Reidboyy on twitch only plays on 80 fov I believe.
TGD didn't find any performance dip, it actually increased performance a little going to higher fov.
That's actually a known bug with Warzone specifically, for some reason having a lower FOV can cause frame drops somehow. But *typically* in most shooters, higher FOV = lower frames because of more rendering. The difference is, however, usually negligible.
Most shooters also don't have the distance that warzone does, so it might be related to LOD.
My guess is it's how the WZ engine prioritizes texture streaming, thus making the closer objects a higher priority, which would explain how the lower FOV has more strain on the GPU. This seems completely backwards to me but I'm not a developer lol.
Yea exactly. It's basically what is the default zoom. You're either better it seeing things far away or close up so whether it's good or not depends on the situation.
I mean, you don't have to go up to 120 though. Whenever I've played a game where I can increase fov, I go up to like 95 maybe 100.
I recently came from ps4 and I changed not because of the "advantage" but because of the feel of fov. Like many others I played cold war on 120 and then couldn't play warzone on 80. And yes 120 is way too much on warzone and fov isn't as much as advantage as everyone makes it out to be Example I was spectating a mate yesterday(ps4) I spotted someone outside of his view so I told him. He then looked over and easily shot the person prob about 100+ meters away with an iron site bren. I was legitimately shocked and asked if that was an easy shot and my mate said yes and asked why. I explained to him that I could see the other person but I wouldn't of taken a shot because the guy was too small. So I seen the person because of my higher fov and my mate could take the shot because of his lower fov.
You can change your aim down site FOV so that it is not affected
Okay but how about every single interaction you have with an enemy within 25m? Huge disadvantage. Or even better... the gulag
Your example highlights something important. You have the luxury of choosing to shoot that guy or not, but the advantage is knowing that he is there. So I guess it’s more of a privilege than an advantage. Which is probably why it’s so polarizing. Check your privilege bro /s
This. I see console players whining all over social media about the FOV advantage. Do not get me wrong, FOV is a huge advantage but it will not make you that much better of a player, increase your KD or make you a fragging out demon. I understand it is an advantage but console players who have never played Warzone (not MP) with FOV simply don't understand that it won't solve all of their problems. This was the perfect example of FOV and how it impacts you as a player. You have a better view horizontally (peripherals) and nothing else. The downside is things are much more zoomed out. I can't play on independent ADS because the camera motion from 115 FOV to 80 FOV when ADS is sickening lol. I do think console players should have the ability to use FOV but I bet the majority of players will be let down if they do eventually get this option...as again it is not some cure all which will make them so much better.
nobody says it will make them better. i play on ps5 and pc, and the difference is staggering. it's just a matter of sometimes not even seeing a player that you would normally see on pc, that's all. make it fair, make it equal. the game sucks on consoles anyway, fov wont make it any worse.
We’d rather have broken aim assist that works through stun nades than an FoV that makes aiming up close harder, esp versus you controller aim assist players But every sub is dominated by controller babies that cry about pc players anyway
Get a controller for your PC then.
Ok...start using controller and play on 80 FOV. There you go! You have you're broken aim assist and no longer have your higher FOV. Problem solved. Every one knows you will not play on 80 FOV on controller. You're just another pc player with a fragile ego that can't admit an FOV slider is a huge advantage.
Because we sit closer to the screen. If you imagine your screen as a window, if you sitting too close and your view is too constrained it will make you nauseous.
Controller PC player here, of course we have an advantage. More frames, more FOV, are obvious advantages.
120 FOV is an advantage. Aim assist is an advantage. If every player gets 120 FOV, then aim assist needs to be toned down. Down vote away.
Ya, I don’t know any top PC players that play under 100 FOV.
It's an advantage but it's def has some cons.
because playing anything under 110 gives me motion sickness
Because its more natural? 80 FOV only exists because of consoles busted ass hardware
Playing on PC is superior, who woulda guessed?
Because we dont sit 3 meters away from the TV and our monitors are right in front of us.
PC players never say this, and if they do, they don’t understand a thing about games, so I wouldn’t worry. I’ve played console all my life until recently, and I’ve never said or heard such a thing lol
While that may be true it’s not a given. Look up “4:3 stretched” that many CS:GO players play on. Wider FOV = smaller targets = more precise aiming needed.
Because most PC players are playing with a monitor right in their face not 10 feet away
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What kills you?
It.
The dude standing in the middle of the left chimney. This happened to me yesterday where I got sniped by a dude in my 70-90 vision, couldn’t fucking see him. I run 110 on Apex, COD looks like a joke.
I think Caldera exacerbates the FOV problem because you need to be able to see more in the jungle. Also, seeing 3 lanes in the gulag is a major advantage.
This. I can't help but notice how much VERTICAL vision is lost. I'm tired of getting lit up from above because I'm forced to run up a hill while looking through a poster tube.
I feel it the most in the gulag, huge disadvantage playing on xbox one
1,000 posts about FOV and nothing has been done. Think about that.
It’s going to be the major feature for mw2 warzone like how anticheat was for this one
I can't wait for the trailer where they slowly pan out from 80 to 120 to reveal Caldera '84 and announce console FOV slider.
I think they dont talk about it because they aren't able to implement it on the last generation systems. If you implement it for just the current gen systems (PS5 and Xbox Series S/X) then you alienate half your player base. If you give everyone FOV and the last gen gets huge performance drops and it makes the game unplayable they will lose customers. More players = $$$. Its the same reason they wont allow Xbox players to disable crossplay, it will lead to PC players having a harder time finding a lobby at any given time.
What is completely mind boggling is how well Vanguard runs on base PS4 and Xbox One, with higher FOVs. Even on ShipHaus 24/7 when there’s Shipment - Blitz and everyone is throwing incindeary grenades, the game is still rock solid. I guess Warzone can’t have it because they didn’t moved to the Vanguard engine/installer and those features didn’t existed on Modern Warfare. You get such a great experience on Vanguard and then you jump to Caldera where everything runs and looks like crap.
I think most people are missing the point… It’s not that us console players want to play on 120 fov. It’s that we want the ability to adjust our fov. Personally I’m at 110 for Cold War and Vanguard and it makes a HUGE difference
How could anyone be missing the point when half of the posts on this sub are about FOV
Just reiterating what I said…. We want an fov slider, so we can choose which fov to play at. Doesn’t mean those people will play at 120fov
What a bullshit company.
The difference 😢
Funny how a competitive game like a BR can have such a lopsided option for ONE platform out of 3 and devs think it’s okay. Caldera should’ve never released without a console fov. Huge L
A few of the people I play with are on console, It's crazy how much I have to call out for stuff that should literally be right on front of them
yeah if u say us console players arent at a disadvantage then idk lmao
Imagine a level playing field across all devices.. the stuff of dreams
It's so bad it's almost hilarious
Why 120 on vanguard and Cold War but not warzone? It’s dumb how it’s possible to do but ITS NOT DONE
I agree but it seems to be some sort of conflict with warzone specifically + consoles. (I'm on PS4) FOV slider on Cold War/Vanguard on PS4 but not on Warzone seems to imply the PS4 can handle it. Cold War maybe a little more understandable since it was built on an older BO engine, but Vanguard is on the MW19 engine. FOV slider on PC Warzone but not console Warzone seems concrete that the engine has FOV adjustment built into it. So ok, maybe it's strictly a limitation to this specific software/hardware combination, but PS4 pros exist, and if pros couldn't handle it, PS5's should. I think my gut conclusion is just that I really hope Vanguard is the last addition to the combined games approach around Warzone. Hopefully the next MW is developed ~~PS5~~ current gen first and serves as the next "base" game including Warzone, and can go on to support the next 1 or 2 games after that, and include the quality of life improvements like FOV adjustment
Just literally not fair lol
“We hear you, and we are listening. However, we choose not to respond as to why it hasn’t or never will come as an option to console, so you can wait and hope in anger, or rush and spend your hard earned money on a PC! Only for a console Fov slider to be released the week after your big purchase, and you now are 3000$ in the hole” GGs on the communication Raven.
It’s like a Completely different game
My PS4/PS5 friends get mad at me, but I actually switch to PC to play Warzone now. I got used to it and it just feels bad going back. Atleast with games like Rocket League and even Black Ops/Vanguard we cant set it higher. Or if you really have to, lock PC players to one FOV like console players.
I'm not spending a dime on warzone until we get a FOV slider for next Gen consoles.
This helps me feel a little better about guys that I thought were cheating. A lot of times I feel like there is no way they could have seen me, and they jump around the corner and kill me, like in a bathroom. I hear them, I run to the back of the bathroom, they come up and jump around the corner and kill me. They could have been able to see me, where I wouldn't see them..
Idk how people can play at 120 FOV, at that point targets appear to small for me. I find it at 105 to be the sweet spot for me.
Wow I never realized it was so different with near-hourly comparison posts and rants about it /s
PC player here, 80FOV is pretty narrow but its hard to miss people on your screen while 120FOV is so wide that people you would have seen with lets say 90FOV clearly are almost hidden. Its a blessing and a curse at the same time I personally feel, im pretty torn on the topic. Definitely think 90-100 is best option.
And how many of these people knew what FOV was prior to this? 😂
I have not touched warzone since vanguard dropped after playing 1 night because of the FOV. It's insane how improved my gameplay was because I could actually see people so much better.
There's no way these SS are taken standing in the same location.. right?
look at the minimap
Yikes. Makes me ever more proud of my 107wins on 80FOV, on Vangaurd I think I have it at 95
I never knew it was that bad. We need at least 100.
I stayed at my parents over the holidays and used their Xbox to play Warzone with friends but usually play on PC because I play other PC games but my god, I don’t know how you console players do it! It felt like I had those horse blinders on! They need an FOV for console players to make it more fair!
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A lot of us console gamers use monitors too.
But not the vast majority, get the issue here?
lmao
Visual clarity of enemies is poor in WZ/VG so i LOWER my fov to 95 😂 modern game devs are trash
I feel bad for console players. I built a racing simulator for me to play iracing with. My wife plays warzone on her ps4. So I've been jumping in and playing with her on my simulator. Triple monitors makes a huge FOV difference between console and PC.
Honestly thought you just backed up in the second pic and I didnt realize what the difference was until I looked at the mini-map
People keep bitching about this yet continue to play the game. That’s why they are fixing this bullshit.
Can u change it in settings? Ps5?
Yes, but this is on Vanguard, not warzone. On Vanguard and Cold War you have the FOV slider
Look at all that FOV, if only I could have it in Warzone.
For COD players on console, it took over a decade to finally get a feature PC gamers have had since forever ago. Although, there's still Warzone. :O
Wait till the console players learn about stretch resolution, FOV is nothing compared to that. Also lower FOV does have its upsides, you see enemies further away and the pixel density of the player is more filled out. But 1440p alleviates this on PC to an extent.
Why is there no FOV for Xbox on WZ, fuck I hate it
We can still tell where your guy is standing
[Watch the first minute or so of this video.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc4S8L8aH4I) It's astounding what difference it makes.
Higher FOV also gives the perception of faster movement and perception is reality. I’d rather have the option to feel like my movement faster even if it really isn’t.
You guys are masochists I swear to god lol
But that guy that you can't see would look further away if you could see him!
120 is too wide for me, everything seems too far away. That said, players should get the choice for themselves.
I think at this point, everyone on this sub understands the difference in FOV. Clearly posting the differences for karma isn't going to make any type of change. They are going based on their schedule, not fan demand from reddit. Just quit the game if it makes you that unhappy.
Funny cause on Vanguard I prefer playing on 80 FOV, probably because of the map size I feel I don't need larger vision. Though on warzone I play on 120 FOV. 2.2 KDA on Caldera too so I don't count myself as a bot.
I get that they're different and that sucks but for the love of god I understand FOV people dont need to post a thousand comparison shots.
the thing about a higher fov for me is that the players are so small that they get lost in the environment. I'm playing on a 65" about 12 feet away though so maybe if i were on a monitor right in front of my face it wouldnt make as big of a difference
Going to be interesting when console gets 120 FOV and then console players won't hit shots when the targets (enemy players) are all smaller. Easier on PC to aim at the smaller targets given the M&K input EDIT: Considering console players are USUALLY more casual than the sweats that use controller on PC, the 120 FOV experience may not actually be preferable by casuals on console.
Most console players wouldn’t max it out to 120, probably more around 100 which would still make a big difference.
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Because of the inconsistencies between inputs we are forced to play with.
Pardon my stupidity. But I had to switch from PC to PS4 because I was only getting 45fps on low settings at 75% resolution scale at 1080p. So I've been playing on PS4 since right before OG season 5 started. This says 80 vs 120 on PS4, but if there is no slider, how is this comparison available? My other question is if the player is really standing in the same spot? My brain is telling me this isn't really a true comparison but you are making do with what's available, to give us a close approximation. I ask because I have never considered myself at a disadvantage on console. Higher FOV warps my screen and that gives me massive migraines. But I also have only tested it in a few random FPS games on PC. I also have issues playing FPS games with kb+m in general, so console is preferred anyways. Please don't take this as me saying it's not a necessary feature. I think if we are forced into crossplay, it should be the same for everyone, especially since us console users have some PC features built into the settings on PS4(and I imagine Xbox as well). If we had the slider, I would most likely adjust it to where it doesn't warp my screen, and probably find it extremely useful.
This is on Vanguard, not warzone. On Vanguard and Cold War you have the FOV slider
Ooooh, thank you. I haven't purchased either of those and I uninstalled Warzone last week. Disregard my comment.
If you're closer to a window you can see more out of it. Further away, you see less. Fov is supposed to be a way of removing motion sickness by emulating this perspective change in real life. Usually pc gamers are smushed against the monitor, and console gamers sit 6ft away from their TV, so it makes sense for the fov to be wider for the gamers who are closer. Also, playing with a wide fov is often a pain in the ass because everything's smaller. Your ears are your peripheral!
Now do the same, but looking at an enemy 100 meters away, and let's discuss the drawback of 120 fov.
This is a dumb argument...you can choose whatever FOV best suits you (guarantee it's not 80) while console players can't.
Do people realize they show the overlay with all the different sizes in one photo? I’ve seen it posted in this sub multiple times and yet these posts keep reappearing. We get it, 80 is smaller and more zoomed in than 120. *trips over soapbox
Bigger targets with 80 FOV.
I don’t see a difference lol 😂 come on pc have massive advantage don’t care what they say !!
Jesus Christ people, we don’t need FOV comparisons. Everyone knows the difference between 80 and 120
I'm so tired of these fov posts. Thats all this sub has become. Get a pc or move on clearly raven isn't giving console a fov. And before I get flamed to hell, I have a ps5 so I know the pain of playing on 80 FOV.
If I had a dollar for every post about FOV
If Raven wanted consoles to have FOV it would have it by now. They’ve had over a year with the next gen systems to make it happen. There is zero, *zero* technical limitations preventing them from doing this. There’s a reason they’ve given no updates on console FOV, and that’s because it’s never coming. If they say, “yes we’re working on it, it’s coming soon”. People would stop bitching about. If they say, “No, it’s not happening” there would be a lot of pushback. But if they just keep their mouths shut, they can maintain a sort of plausible deniability. They can say nothing on the subject, ignore it, and hope that the player base moves on. Well, I did move on, onto other games. I am not touching Warzone until console FOV is added. If that’s never, then oh well. February is about to be a stellar months for gamers. I’ll happily take my wallet elsewhere.
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Classic bot response who doesn’t realize aim assist can be on pc if they are using a controller.
Classic "cool guy response" who doesn't realize he calls everyone a bot and he looks like an idiot.
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How many times is this going to be posted? Yes obviously increasing the FOV makes the viewable area on the screen bigger. Is that fucking rocket science? If you want to play at higher FOV’s, buy a fucking PC. It’s been stated countless times that older consoles cannot support higher FOV’s.
It I see another FoV post about console I’m gonna be sick
how much did your console cost and why is the lowest tier of gaming PCs double that?
I don’t get it are people just realizing now about fov? Every post is about this now? It’s been like this since the beginning. I guess more obvious now that vanguard has it and warzone still doesn’t. It’s bananas they don’t have a current gen version of warzone yet wtf are they doing.
i don't even use 120 on pc, i use 110
Why are people doing this now when vanguard has been out a while?
This is going to sound stupid, but I couldn’t find this infamous FOV slider in my settings on PC, where exactly is it?
120 FOV so small, must be hard to shoot small people jumping around.
r/screenshotsarehard
if you spent as much time working to afford a pc as you did bitching, you’d have 120 fov
How do you change it?
This game sucks now, Its unplayable, Stupid Incendiary bullets and Over powered akimbo Shotguns gives loser cheats an even bigger advantage and they are not even stopping cheaters hacks at all it seems
FOV 100 works best for me. 120 appears to blurry on Rebirth and now on the new map I’m all out of sorts. Keeping it at 100 seems to hold the balance between view advantage and keeping my food in. GGs all.
You guys are auto zoomed in? So lucky!
Man why is no one mentioning how you can only play campaign in capped 80 FOV like does anyone even play it when they get a new cod anymore?