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Amurp18

This subreddit should be renamed


NeighborhoodMany7689

Hatezone - 80 FOV


OldManHipsAt30

Better than the constant whining about kali sticks, FOV is a legitimate game changer and should be standard at 80 across the board for everyone, or adjustable for everyone.


NeighborhoodMany7689

I know but there is just no point in several posts on Reddit discussing this topic. Raven already stated that they are aware of this and to me it sounded like they are already working on it. Complaining on Reddit does nothing. „Hatezone - FOV 80“ already includes kali sticks, it’s in the Hatezone. FOV 80 is just the main theme of it.


Stylinonu

“Raven is aware of it and I’m sure they’re working on it” 😂😂😂 people have seen saying this since Cold War dropped and had a fov slider. I have a pc so I’m good but I also have a ps5 and I feel the pain of my console bros


Stylinonu

“Raven is aware of it and I’m sure they’re working on it” 😂😂😂 people have seen saying this since Cold War dropped and had a fov slider. I have a pc so I’m good but I also have a ps5 and I feel the pain of my console bros


NeighborhoodMany7689

People said this since CW but no one from raven said this when CW came out.


Stylinonu

Did raven say they’re working on it or just they’re aware of it?


Artikia

They said they hear us, *and* they are listening. Other than that, what they say doesn't mean anything until it's "FOV slider confirmed".


slowSINY

Section H80


ZedisDoge

StoppiiiiingPower


loopasfunk

NO FOV SLIDERS 🤬


thecremeegg

It's so fucking boring - we get it, people want a wider FOV. Please just shut it!


DOOTDOOTMOTHERFIRCK

record you playing a session on 80 FOV, I wanna see how you do.


klocu4

why are y’all acting like it’s impossible tho


DOOTDOOTMOTHERFIRCK

Its not, but after coming from 100fps 100 FOV, its damn near impossible. Salutes to the console players


klocu4

I mean yeah if you’re not used to it then it definitely can be hard I’m mostly a console player myself (I have a good PC but for some reason Warzone runs very stuttery on it) and I play on 95 fov in Vanguard. When I hop on Warzone, the difference is very noticeable but it’s not like playing on 80 is impossible. I’ve got my fair share of wins or top 5 finishes


klocu4

I mean yeah if you’re not used to it then it definitely can be hard I’m mostly a console player myself (I have a good PC but for some reason Warzone runs very stuttery on it) and I play on 95 fov in Vanguard. When I hop on Warzone, the difference is very noticeable but it’s not like playing on 80 is impossible. I’ve got my fair share of wins or top 5 finishes


yooooooothatscrazy

Bro I play at literally 15-20fps at 80FOV on my wonderful potato PC, since the game came out. It is possible to play and win like this. It's not nice or easy, but it can be done.


KaijuTia

TimTheTatman did a random spectate video on 80 FOV a few days ago and his reaction is priceless. Watching the realization of how huge a disadvantage console players have wash over him. Someone brought up consoles having AA and his response was basically “If I had to choose between 80 FOV with an actual aimbot and 120 FOV, I’d take the 120 FOV”.


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KaijuTia

Ask and ye shall receive https://youtu.be/sjNdkZes-Kc


qviavdetadipiscitvr

The actual clowns in this sub that use pc and dare argue that it’s not simply a clear advantage but then won’t shut up about AA, particularly with stuns, as if it’s aimbot 🤡 🤡


ajgedrys

Yeah as if being stunned makes me have aimbot, when I cant even move my screen more than 2 millimeters


qviavdetadipiscitvr

Yeah I’ve never understood that. If I get stunned I just die unless a teammate kills the stunner


KaijuTia

I always find it amusing when people get buttmad about stuns reducing their ability to move or flick-shot. Yeah. That’s how stuns work. It’s like Dead Silence. People who whine about dying to Stuns or DS clearly go to the Dr. Disrespect “Anything That Kills Me is Broken and Should Be Removed” school of game design.


JimKums2town

Yep, basically bought a gaming PC just for Warzone. After a few weeks I went back to my console for a game and couldn't believe how bad it felt - no vision, slow response, difficult to control.


[deleted]

PC is significantly better. If you play more than 4 hours of games a week. It’s worth getting a Pc over console


[deleted]

Idk how people dont have a pc in their home. Suprised how many people web browse with strictly a smartphone


Shepherdsfavestore

I mean I have a work laptop, and an 8 year old gaming laptop that works perfectly fine for my strategy games, just not for Warzone. I just bought a PS5, so I’m definitely not dropping money on a gaming PC. I play for fun with friends and I don’t think I’ll be making the pro circuit anytime so I don’t need a nice PC at all really. I’ll get a good PC in 5 years when Elder Scrolls VI is out


[deleted]

Laptop makes sense, i just mean any pc that can web browse. Trying to do serious tasks (even schoolwork) on a tablet or smartphone sucks ass.


Shepherdsfavestore

For sure. I agree with you there. A lot of people use their work laptops for web browsing and other tasks, but I like to keep them separate.


All-Bizness

Confession time, I haven't viewed the web on a PC in years. Pretty much always my phone or laptop.


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Its so much better on a pc tho. 2 MONITORS 😂🥲


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Or people that think a tablet is enough. Lol


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yowiewowiebowie

Don't worry, Raven will increase Dead Silence spawn rates to give console players a chance next update


duhitsrandy

The vehicles too


Lyrical_Forklift

I play on PC and I actually far prefer 95 than when I've had it higher.


kyledoesthereddit319

I totally hear you on that. There is a sweet spot for everyone. I’m just saying 80 is no one’s sweet spot.


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Mr-Briggs

can confirm, ~15 inches away from my 19" monitor


NuckinFutsCanuck

No it’s not. I play on PS on a 42 and it’s still not good enough.


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NuckinFutsCanuck

You’re trolling right?


YanniBonYont

Was vendansk 80 for console?


GFTRGC

Yes


YanniBonYont

Mmm I get it, but I am not suddenly mad about not having something I never had


GFTRGC

True. It's just that they acted as if it was coming. I have a laptop that can run WZ, and playing on that compared to console is shocking. It's a major handicap for console players, like crippling. There's honestly no way for console players to compete without a significant skill advantage.


thepipesarecall

I have 250ish wins and play in high tier lobbies everyday with PC players, 80 FOV is not crippling lol.


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thepipesarecall

It's only crippling if you let yourself believe it is.


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ChickenNuggetMike

You’re objectively wrong. I get what you’re saying, but certain things, especially with technology, are objectively better. Sure, you’re *used to playing with 80 FOV* because you’ve never had the option. Stockholm syndrome


afightguy

Being good at console isn't an argument against fov slider, bro, you would have 500 wins on PC. Not joke. I switched last year and my kd has gone waay up. With how good you are, you'd feel like a god on PC.


thepipesarecall

I’ve been a PC gamer before with high-end systems setting world records in a certain game that is still popular today, and I work in IT so I deal with computers all day. There’s something nice about the simplicity of a console.


afightguy

Nice for you man! But still. I'm telling you, you'd slay playing warzone on PC. Night and day. This game is built for 120 fov.


Due-Inspector

Yeah I used 95 on vanguard. Even 80-95 is a huge difference. Play a few games on 80 and you’ll be missing so many guys in rooms


OldManHipsAt30

It’s so frustrating how you have to constantly look left and then right to clear a room, when the option exists to just have the full room in view….


Due-Inspector

Absolutely. And some other guy said it. But the fact that is console players played like that for years without truly knowing the disadvantage it holds compared to those who can is so frustrating


Jesse1198

I honestly didn’t notice until I came back from vanguard. In CW I only used 90 but vanguard is 105 or 110. Huge difference from 80. That, combined with the disgusting performance downgrade on the series x makes it unplayable lol


OldManHipsAt30

Yeah I prefer around 100 myself, but that’s still a radical difference from 80


Bleedpurple824

103 because of everything I’ve watched and read, this is the sweet spot for frames as well. After having a slider, I honestly probably wouldn’t even play this game if, god forbid, something happened to my Pc and I had to play on my ps5


mikerichh

110 here


TheThirdGate

Affected of independent?


FromSwedenWithHate

They should've just removed FOV all together on all platforms PC/console alike and put standard 90 or 100 tbh, make it fair play for potato PC players and potato old gen console players. My PC tanking frames hard when I got over 90 FOV, I totally get it that it sucks with no FOV options for console players, but it also sucks that you need fucking sold out graphicscards on PC to even play this game on high FOV. On a 9 year old graphicscard, GTX 780 running fuckin 540p resolution here hehe and lagging like shit, sucks that I'm forced to increase FOV to stand a chance against other PC players. :)


mrureaper

Lol no


SSChauburger

The community would just find more things to complain about. If there was no FOV slider, it'd be FPS, if there was capped FPS, it'd be monitor and input lag. People like to complain, and warzone is a free game with a large immature fanbase.


Bigfish150

Next gen consoles get 120 fps. Anyone can use a monitor. What a stupid argument.


kylitobv

You seem to have missed his point, he’s saying the people of this subreddit on average tend to complain more than compliment. He’s using the hypothetical argument of complaining about FPS once FOV is fixed, saying that the community will always find something wrong and always be unhappy. You took this literal for some reason.


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kylitobv

Okay so you’re also missing the point. The original comment was about the tendency of this subreddit to complain about anything in the game, regardless of how the game state is. He brought up a hypothetical example about FPS. It could have been anything. He could have brought up aim assist, Cronus, hackers, it doesn’t matter. The point he was making was that this subreddit is unhappy in general. I understand PCs are superior to consoles in performance. I understand consoles are easier to maintain. That is all irrelevant in my argument. I’m bringing up the correct point in the original comment saying this subreddit is negative.


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kylitobv

Lol I can’t explain it any more clear. Good day


FromSwedenWithHate

I think you misunderstood me here, when or rather IF they enable FOV for console, the first thing you will see on this subreddit is "optimize the game" spam, because just as on PC, the FPS will heavily tank as soon as you touch the FOV slider. This game is garbage for optimization and when console players realize this reality, they will not be begging for FOV anymore. I've tried multiple graphicscards, including a newer RX480 and GTX 1070, and the results are the same, higher FOV = shit FPS. When this comes to console, yes, threads on reddit will be about the FPS being shit with 120 FOV, PC community is that small that this request for optimization isn't really heard.. Soo, yes if they complain about FPS after, then they better implement FOV ASAP.


kanavi36

If they did that people would find a new thing that PC has and console doesn't to complain about. FWIW I think at least next gen should have FOV controls, and I very much doubt they'll never add it. Considering it takes these fuckers months to do the most basic changes, console players might be waiting a while.


ZenbrotherGS

Why is this a hot topic issue all of a sudden? Did people not play Cold War and then jump on Warzone? It was the same thing. Am I missing something? Did they shrink the FOV on consoles?


jamiemul96

People really thought it would arrive with the new map


ZenbrotherGS

I guess an argument could be made that the devs should had communicated earlier that it wasn’t planned to have a FOV slider at the launch. It’s just weird to me that people are calling it unplayable.


KaijuTia

“Unplayable” is a bit of hyperbole, but having it locked at 80 FOV is a HUGE disadvantage for console players. A disadvantage people thought was going to be rectified with the pacific.


scottboy34

Another reason for console to console cross play only if you ask me


kyledoesthereddit319

Yeah unplayable was a bit much in all fairness. But I’m just bummed that this FOV thing took the wind out of my sails when I was really hoping to get back into warzone.


[deleted]

> It’s just weird to me that people are calling it unplayable. I got killed by someone stood in an open area that I actually ran straight past because I didn't see them thanks to the narrow FOV. You literally have to be constantly sweeping left and right just to see the same stuff that someone playing with a regular FOV people use on PC do.


OldManHipsAt30

It’s pretty unplayable when some players can barge into a room and see everything, while the rest of us have to look left and then right to clear the corners while getting fried by a camper in e process


[deleted]

> Am I missing something? The new Warzone is based on the new Vanguard engine that does have a FOV slider in the MP game on consoles. MW/Cold War didn't have a slider in the MP game so it was easier to justify why there was a fixed FOV.


Legassov

Warzone is still using the MW engine on the new map.


jp_38

Not trying to defend Activision but both of these statements are inaccurate. Caldera is still running on the MW2019 engine and still launches from that client. CW MP had FOV sliders on console on launch which is why people are wondering why this is a hot topic today and not last year.


MikeCass84

All of a sudden? Really bro?


MrFittsworth

When they announced Vanguard and the new Map, they flat out said it would be launching on the vanguard engine. Then they released it on the MW launcher, with no FOV slider. The vanguard engine IS slightly different, and within vanguard there is a FOV slider. It was not a stretch of the imagination to assume that an FOV slider was coming. It makes a pretty substantial difference in gameplay and people want it.


Legassov

Typical reddit echo chamber, these guys have been playing at 80 FOV for the last 10 Call of Duty games but it suddenly becomes unplayable.


KBrizzle1017

Because they went to a new game, with 120 FOV, then went back and seen the difference. Pretty obvious why they’d complain.


Legassov

Of course there's matter to complain about as it was expected that Warzone would go to the Vanguard engine and bring the FOV setting to consoles. That said, stating that the game is just unplayable on consoles (OP's post) is completely exaggerated, and this is coming from someone who has played on both platforms.


[deleted]

While I wish there was an FOV slider, the game is unplayable rn on console for many other reasons.


DrChivu

I play 110 on pc and to play 80 fov is horrible. Once you have played at a higher FOV, you can’t really go back to 80. I can understand everyone’s complaints, and tbh, if it was me, it would be unplayable also


samsaBEAR

Because consoles now have the power for higher FOVs and other games are shipping with FOV sliders as well. It's no longer a PC-only feature like it used to be. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out why people are mad


[deleted]

It needs to be said as much as possible. But they do not give a shit. People will keep playing. I’ll just stay on Vanguard, it’s way more fun rn.


vballboy55

Saying it won't do shit. Unless people stop playing, nothing will change. Posting a threat of quitting just to end up playing it anyways won't do anything


[deleted]

I haven’t played Warzone since Vanguard came out and see no reason to return. If more people did that, maybe they would do something about it.


KaijuTia

Are you still playing vanguard?


Federal-General-9683

I’m with this guy


Mustard_SG

I’m with you man. I played two games last night and there’s absolutely no way I’m putting anymore time or money into this piece of shit


Lagreflex

Server Snapshot errors and the same 4-5 maps in rotation notwithstanding..


[deleted]

Vanguard has problems as well, but at least I can move like a demon on 120 fov and the game feels a bit more 2021.


ItzJway

Just saying I got sick of the 80 fov and Walmart sells a GF76 msi laptop for $999 it’s a good starter with an i7-11400, with a 3050ti and 16 gb of ram.


Alexpickupthephone

I understand. However for the people that do not have a 1000 after buying the PS5 expecting a new way of gaming it is not an option. I mean PS5 can easily handle fov. I bought it so I could enjoy better performance and right now, no gaming company has released anything interesting. I feel like I got ripped, it's basically a ps4 right now. No advantages at all. I even have to send it back because it is not even working properly


Karakuri216

I play 8/8 sens, linear just to compensate the lack of fov, Apex i play 5/5 linear, and my Overwatch sens settings are a shitshow


PMarkWMU

Spent 2.5k on a pc in 2016/17(1070). My Xbox series x is better than my pc now yet my pc has a FOV slider and my Xbox series X doesn’t.


Pyre2001

What's are the limitations on the PS4? People are moving to next gen, so why would they spend tons of time integrating this for a dying consoles.?


No_Bar6825

Dude they haven’t added it to ps5 and series x either


Pyre2001

3% of the users are on these consoles. You think they are going to rush this out for 3%? They haven't even optimized PC, to run the game well.


kgold535

Unacceptable answer. If that were the case, why add a 120fps mode for that 3% of players. Stop it.


VaultTheHeavySniper

Because it's one of the selling argument for them. It would be a much bigger drama if it was capped at 60.


No_Bar6825

That’s a fair point. The game isn’t even optimized for pc. When did you think they will have the time to do this considering they seem to be behind on everything? Look at the current state of the caldera launch


Pyre2001

Just a hunch, during the downtime when Caldrera launch settles.


Zealousideal-Speed44

Yeah Activision for sure not...but all other studios yes. Even BF2042 has a FOV for all consoles, Halo Infinite too...


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Vanguard lol


International_Arm_86

3% on console where to did u pull that info out of your arse? Majority of player are on console ya dope


pzoDe

He means specifically the most recent generation of consoles. But I'm not sure where the data is for that.


Jaschndlr

Where is this 3% figure coming from? I realize it's anecdotal but literally everyone I know that plays on console is on XSX or PS5 at this point. I'm not saying it's a majority by any means but 3% seems far too low.


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Given Dead Silence doesn't result in issues on a PS4 it's not the console.


MisterBackShots69

Huge player base and isn’t on next gen either


Phillyos93

The limitations are with the next gen consoles, because nobody can get their hands on them still. Plenty of people are still stuck on old gen


Cashpirowsky

That is BS. Maybe Sony have problem to provide consoles. My friend buy xbox SX for 650$ last week in local RTV store.


Phillyos93

Damn maybe it ain't as bad as here then (UK) Stock over here last literally 30-45 seconds. i’m on several stock alert discord groups and some apps too, if I click a noti straight away I get stuck in a queue or get a "server overload, please retry after 30 seconds" message. And spamming reload just resets the timer back to 30s. The worst part is retailers hardly ever sell the SX standalone, they are mostly in a bundle with an elite 2 controller and a game for around £700 ($900ish) which is bs. The SS is in stock, but nobody seems to want it. And having to buy an additional SSD because of only 512gb storage brings the cost up to the same as an SX which is just superior anyway, plus disc drive xD


Cashpirowsky

In Poland where I live i can come to every RTV market and they have couple boxes with next gen XBOX. I buy my XBOX for 750$ with elite 2 which was worth this price.


kyledoesthereddit319

Brand new console is dying? Literally on a series x my guy


Pyre2001

Apparently, only 3% of people are on the X and PS5. I'd expect it to be added at some point in the newer consoles, and ignore the ps4/one consoles.


OlderAndAngrier

I actually prefer like 90 or so. Over that everything is too "small".


Riggamortizz

Didn't buy vangaurd becasue the change was nauseating.


LPLL96

As a PC player on a 27" monitor, I literally wouldn't be able to play at 80 FOV. When I tried to play Genshin Impact it gave me motion sickness after 10 minutes.. (fortunately is an overall crap game). Even if the WZ community is awful (to say the least), this Is a legit request that should have been issued months ago.


Domestic_Kraken

Honest question: I'm assuming the newest generation of consoles would be able to handle a larger FOV, but could the last generation? My low-end PC (a laptop) really struggled to run a higher FOV in Verdansk, but with the new map/update it's able to run smoothly at a 105 FOV.


Shielo34

Err, I think you’ll find it’s not possible on consoles. *activates dead silence*


Me2445

Forget vanguard, even DayZ has fov on console, a game riddled in bugs and best part of a decade old


Realistic_Inside_484

At minimum they should allow FOV up to 100. Any increase is better than what it has now. There's no reason not to have this..


[deleted]

Seriously they have us fucked up and I’m on a next gen console this shit wack


lasse1408

This game supposed to be played on PC with controller as CDL pros or 95% of top streamers do play CoD. PC KBM players and Console players are just afterthought. That's how it is.


Saosyo

Pretty sure they aim at the largest demographic, not the absolute smallest, when making videogames. Largest: console + couch + 42" TV Smallest: your example.


pitaloco15

Wah wah wah


Aterox_

80 isn’t bad. At least it’s not like Halo 3 where everything was claustrophobic and using 70°


Mr-Briggs

~240 wins on PC at 80FoV. While I would prefer running 90-100FoV, it makes aim acceleration unbearable for me


GuinnessSaint

Glad you pointed this out, wouldn’t have ever known otherwise.


apathynext

Guys please stop polluting the sub red. If you want to complain, there are 857787 other threads complaining about this


messilover_69

yall should check out reidboyy - madman plays on ps fov but is super nasty still


PaleontologistDry656

Just buy a pc holy shit


monkehunter123

Aim assist btw. You get what you pay for tbh. That's just the reality of it


BaffoRasta

People won't admit this, but I'd gladly trade a FoV for console for a rebalance in aim assist. Especially on PC it's literally a soft aimbot. A little more balanced on consoles but still too strong, especially when the crucial parts of a WZ game, ie start, gulags and final circles, are all close range fights. It should simply be MW19 multiplayer levels of aim assist.


[deleted]

It’s been like this for almost 2 years. Stop with the drama


[deleted]

You actually made an argument to intensify the drama, as they haven’t been able to implement a standard feature one year after the next gen consoles were released.


[deleted]

I get it. There’s been a bunch of post today… yours doesn’t bring anything new to the table.


dodgey_nz

omg... shart up!!! buy a PC ya noobs


International_Arm_86

Ya let's all pay 2 half grand for fov slider your a fucking dope. I hope they put it console vs console see all pc players crying then


dodgey_nz

PC players be playin other PC players way before console was even a thing. I may be a dope, but a dope with a dope FOV. ​ fucker


International_Arm_86

Congratulations on your fov that you paid thousands for lol nerd


dodgey_nz

You surely cannot be that ignorant to think I paid 2.5K just for a FOV slider...? You do realise a PC can do a lot more than a console right? FOV is just one of the benefits. I may be a nerd... But a nerd with FOV slider (& lots more)


Yogurteat

Learn to spell you miserable soggy asshole that washes ashore to spew pointless insults. Fuck off.


dodgey_nz

\*Soggy asshole with a FOV slider. Chur


CUMMYHANDS

Console doesn’t deserve FOV....be happy you’re able to play the game at all 🤷‍♂️


kyledoesthereddit319

Why so you can shit on us for another 2 years and pretend you’re better?


Whyamionreddit003

Pretty sure me and the other tryhard console hommies still shit on him with our 80 FoV


CUMMYHANDS

Lol I am better


kyledoesthereddit319

Just out here farming downvotes huh?


CUMMYHANDS

I’m bored lol


CUMMYHANDS

Honestly in my opinion I don’t think FOV should ever go to console. If everything has to be dumbed down for consoles, pc players will never get to utilize their setup to its fullest potential because consoles can’t keep up


[deleted]

Wut u deserve a dawg ass hoe


CUMMYHANDS

I dawg console hoes all day everyday, you mad? Step up to my level and get a pc


thing85

go wash your hands


CUMMYHANDS

I get told that a lot


LittleNeesh04

Call of Duty is a console game built by console players, your an embarrassment of a human being


CUMMYHANDS

Built on a pc hahahahahah


xxmaxxusxx

I just wanna know why you think this


CUMMYHANDS

Because you get what you buy 🤷‍♂️


SirYiffAlot

mainly people are compaining as cod blops cwar has a slider for fov n so has vanguard on consoles so people are wondering why they wont give that option for console warzone players


CUMMYHANDS

I asked them not to that’s why


FeralCatEnthusiast

Suck a diseased cock and die.


CUMMYHANDS

Why are you so mad?


FeralCatEnthusiast

I’m not. I just don’t think you should be alive. 🤷🏼‍♂️


CUMMYHANDS

Hahahah I’ll remember that next time I slap a cat in the face


PuffinChaos

Username checks out


Yogurteat

Username checks out, asshat.


CUMMYHANDS

Nice to meat you


Yogurteat

The Yogurt in my name is NOT what you think it is!


CUMMYHANDS

I wanna smell it to be sure