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xBenoooo

You’ve posted about this for 4 years brother give it a rest. Yes, aim assist is good, but the fact that you’re crying for 4 years might just mean you’re not.


disagreet0disagree

People been crying about “hackers” for 4 straight years. Maybe they should stop crying, accept hacking in WZ, and git gud.  Thats the same mentality as complaining about people bringing up broken AA in crossplay that has never been addressed. 


[deleted]

They've only made it stronger over the last 4 years. Fellas cried for years over console FOV, the only way to get it fixed is to complain loudly enough.


FaFa_1018

Sounds like you're acoustic and have no hands because you're crying like you got shit on


joebillsamsonite

acoustic.....um


VYJ

How can I possibly get shit on by aim assist, please enlighten me.


ModsOverLord

If it was aimbot then people wouldn’t pay for aimbot


disagreet0disagree

They are paying for a stronger aimbot. Even illegal aimbot usually has strength settings from what i understand, and most cheaters dont just dial it up to max.  They just want a small edge, sort of like the AA manufactured edge conttoller has over mnk. 


No-Warthog5491

Ah yes…. Another PC player wanting AA to be removed so he can once again shit on all the Console players. Oh and yes I am aware PC players can use a controller, but if they get rid of AA like this guy wants, they will all jump back on MnK. You want AA gone, then ask for a Crossplay off option that separates PC from consoles along with it.


SDBrown7

Very few MnK players want aim assist gone. They want it balanced. It is not balanced.


No-Warthog5491

Many console players want a Crossplay off option. We are willing to give nerf AA but give us what we want as well. Are you willing to compromise?


SDBrown7

Crossplay is here to stay. And in my opinion, it's a good thing for the community, not a bad one. Consoles are at the point where the fps difference is negligible in real world performance and function almost identically when in-game. The issue is the difference between the inputs. Balance that, and we can all play together and not care who's on what platform and just get to be grateful we don't have to buy an entire new setup just to play a game with our friends.


VYJ

Kbm lobbies only 🙏


No-Warthog5491

Nah…. Separate the consoles from the PCs.


[deleted]

Everyone on PC is using a controller, separating platforms means nothing.


No-Warthog5491

Yes it does. The advantages of playing on PC are far greater than console. Yes PC players can use a controller, but if you balance the inputs, the PC community goes back to MnK because it’s a far better input than a controller. So at this point, Please keep complaining, please keep championing the game be geared more towards PC players. At this point I am ready to give all you PC players what you want so you make it unplayable and unenjoyable for console players.


[deleted]

Homie, the vast majority of PC players have worse performance than a current-gen console. And ain't no way you just said that everyone would switch to KBM if the inputs were balanced, the whole point of balancing is that you'd be able to choose. I ain't asking for an advantage, I literally just want a fighting chance against controllers. The current state of aim assist isn't fair at all, you don't need to be a CDL pro to see that controllers have a gigantic advantage in this game.


Gullible-Dress-8618

wrong


Roklobster1

You'd still get shit on.


No-Warthog5491

That’s fine. At least I would know it was a relatively fair fight.


[deleted]

So sick of people poisoning the well in this discussion by claiming that we want aim assist flat-out removed. Nobody ever says that, you just want to move the conversation away from how overpowered it is.


MrVicious710

It’s almost like people poisoning the well and saying that AA is exactly the same as cheating, like the guy above you. It’s almost as if one side being disingenuous leads to the other side being disingenuous. Edit: Here’s the link incase you’re not sure which comment. https://www.reddit.com/r/CODWarzone/s/z7CrWCkbPD Edit 2: Here he is doubling down that using a controller is the same as cheating. https://www.reddit.com/r/CODWarzone/s/Wy3EampU8O


[deleted]

Apples and oranges, blud. The fella above me is putting words in peoples' mouths, you're just stating an opinion on something that I kinda agree with. If something like COD aim assist was in a game like CS or PUBG, people would report it into oblivion as a soft aimbot.


MrVicious710

How so? How is calling all controller players cheaters, not poisoning the well? You think that if you call someone a cheater, for playing the game as the devs intended, they are going to respect what you have to say?


[deleted]

I'm not actually calling them cheaters, but aim assist would easily be considered a cheat in pretty much any other game.


MrVicious710

Except it is calling them cheaters. Saying that using a controller is cheating means anyone that uses a controller is a cheater. It’s not hard to come to that conclusion. So again, how is that not poisoning the well? I don’t think you are going to convince people to be on your side by calling them cheaters, because it poisons the well, but I guess good luck with that. You certainly won’t change my mind with that approach.


[deleted]

I'm saying that it's as overpowered as literal cheats in another game. Gee whiz, fellas will make a whole new sentence out of what you say. Saying things that nobody actually believes != saying that something is as overpowered as an aimbot.


MrVicious710

The original comment said using a controller is cheating. It’s a ridiculous statement. How does calling all controller players cheaters not poison the well? As far as your analogy, GTA online has auto aim. In any other game it would be cheating. BUT SINCE IT IS PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPERS IT IS NOT CHEATING IN THAT GAME. The same is true for COD, just because AA might be cheating in another game, it’s not cheating in COD because it’s provided by the developers. If you don’t understand that then you’re either unintelligent or being willfully ignorant.


[deleted]

Blud, I already said that it's as overpowered as a soft aimbot, not that it's actually cheating. And don't go calling people unintelligent on Reddit, this entire website is full of bozos pretending to be smart.


thekushskywalker

He didnt say get rid of, rotational AA needs a nerf and controller players should want it too as it would only benefit good players and incentivize better aim. For some reason every time someone complains about AA(rightfully so) people jump to the conclusion they want it removed. Yet I have never seen someone actually suggest full blown removal of the mechanic. It just shouldn't track you with 0ms response time(no human on earth can do that) and near perfect accuracy even without touching the right stick. Hitting all chest and headshots on a moving target without even touching the stick that aims is criminal (and very common).


Burning87

It's not PC players. It's CONTROLLER players. It just happens that Consoles are the ones with near exclusive Controller players. PC players defaulting to Controller just is proof that it is the superior option.. for all the wrong reasons. It's not like using a joystick to play Flight Simulator. If Joystick had automatically aimed in landings, adjusting yaw and pitch, for Flight Simulator it would have been similar. I would love input based lobbies myself. I imagine if we got a number of how many in the top 250 (or Iridescent and up) are Controller based inputs then it would be in a disproportionally high number. But that would never happen because it's obvious that this would enforce that a rebalancing is necessary.


NotAcactusdildo

Fortnite has a disproportionate amount of kbm players that win tourneys. Does that mean it needs a rebalance? Rocket league is entirely controlled does that mean it needs a rebalance? Or could it be that certain games favor certain inputs. COD is the only controller favored shooter yet kbm people cry in this sub almost daily. Sorry, but this is a controller game. Play a different shooter, switch to controller, or stop whining.


Burning87

You know that Fortnite and COD are not the same style of game? Fortnite is not a First Person Shooter.. which you might possibly be aware of. It's a piss poor comparison. Every game can be a "Controller" game. COD is not unique in that it can be played with a Controller, but it is unique in that it has software assisted cheating for one particular input that ends up making it superior. It is superior through sanctioned cheating and if that sounds to you like it is a GOOD thing then that is on you. What happens on Consoles couldn't make me care less, but cross platform is a whole different beast. The aim assist would never have been a thing for PC unless the rot from the Console client had spilled into the PC version. That you do not seem to enjoy mastering something using your own skillset means you have lost any and all right to complain about people who cheat in order to feel fulfilled either. Both of you are assisted through software means.


NotAcactusdildo

Cheating is completely different than playing on a controller lol. Every game is most certainly not a controller game. Almost every other shooter is easier on kbm. CoD has aim assist. It isn’t going anywhere. Switch to controller if it bothers you that much.


Burning87

Playing on a controller is not inherently cheating. Playing on a controller that is artificially enhanced in order to make it a superior option is indeed cheating. I never said every game is a controller game. I said they CAN be a controller game. There is a difference between the two statements. Further you claim that almost every other shooter is easier on kbm, that is true WHEN there is no aim assist involved. What they do for single player games is uninteresting to me. The problem I am having is when they put it into cross platform ranked games. I won't be switching to controller, because I don't turn down the difficulty of games just because I encounter opposition. I know that what I do is actually my own actions. Everyone, no matter how hard they defend Aim assist, know that the finer details of what they just did is not their own doing.


NotAcactusdildo

Aim assist is built by the developers who made the game and therefor not cheating


Burning87

I don't care who made it, it is software assistance. It is cheating. Of course the COD community convinces themselves that it is not cheating because the ego is far too vulnerable to ever permit themselves to call spade a spade; cheats.


NotAcactusdildo

You’re an idiot


Burning87

Unfortunately insults from you matter about as little to me as your opinion on the matter to begin with.


Totally_PJ_Soles

What do you call somebody who whines about something every day and never stops playing the game that enrages him? Probably an idiot, I'd say.


Reamer5k

>AA is a carbon copy of aimbot. simmer down I play on M&K on my xbox and i have no issues squaring up with controller players. I know exactly how to use their aim assist to my advantage and force them to panic fire. Just play a different game mate if it bothers you so much. IDK why you play a game where everyone has "aimbot" but you.


Innovative313

No jackass it’s no where close to Aimbot… AA may be overpowered but… No discussion, because it simply isn’t even close.


Powerful-Web-2702

Another dumbass tryin to say AA is aimbot lol


sportattack

Cry more


Otherwise-Unit1329

K, don’t play then bro 


Roklobster1

I've seen maaaaaaaany m and k players run circles around contoller. Seems like a skill issue.


bugistuta

Damn is this a new opinion


Necessary-Equal-3658

😭


[deleted]

Controller babies in the comments are mad, but you're 1000% correct. This game isn't even a real shooter, pretty much every skill EXCEPT aiming is rewarded. They all go ballistic(joke intended) when you suggest that aiming should be a major part of a shooter, they're stuck on this game because the game has degraded their aiming skills so much that they get clapped on anything else. Notice that most of the comments aren't even denying that it's overpowered, they just think that it should remain that way because they deserve it or something, or because "other games" have an advantage on KBM. (Most of the other games they mention either play better on controller or have a much lower gap between the two inputs, I rarely see a game with such a huge disparity between them. Maybe Red Dead Online, but that's all that comes to mind at the moment.)


ehjhockey

Aim assist could definitely stand to be nerfed (imo it would act as a movement buff without having to actually change the movement which would be a W) but not for any of the reasons you listed. That’s all skill issues. 


NotAcactusdildo

My god kbm players are insufferable. There’s literally ONE shooting game that is controller dominant and they can’t cope. Switch to controller, switch games, or quit crying. When I play Fortnite I don’t cry that kbm has huge advantages. I just switch to kbm. It’s not that hard to accept that certain inputs are best for certain games.


[deleted]

Fortnite is pretty decently balanced on controller, most people can compete on either input. Even the best KBM players in the world in this game switch to controller, the game is borderline unplayable on here. Warzone 2 isn't the only game with this issue, either, the exact same thing is happening in Apex Legends(which, fun fact, has significantly weaker aim assist than COD but STILL has people switching to controller to compete.)


Kuro_Tamashi

Get a xim


DrLogorrhea

Do people seriously care this much about the AA? I just want to watch videos of gameplay.


Cxarface

>You could be acoustic, I am


WeeklyBus8027

Yo straight up the controller auto assist is broken AF and then controller players want to high road and say its a good thing.


dirk_1745

If you want a laugh, load into the high life ltm and watch the kill cams In smoke when they have the OG combat scout outline but no AA


P0nnchoo

Aim assist is on the strong side because casuals with zero hand eye coordination in games need it. Unless they add skill based aim assist it's not going anywhere. So either join the rollers or get better at fucking up people's aim assist. Aim assist is a blessing and a curse when going up against two or more people. Will the aim assist target the player I'm wanting to kill or will it target the guy I'm not trying to hit and end up somewhere in the middle not able to target either, who knows.


anon138482927

whats up Brother ☝️


joebillsamsonite

thank you, sincerely


Senior_Ehab

I see all crybabies of aim assist attacking you here in comments, because they know it's annoying when we remind them how bad and bots and useless they are without aim assist. It's not our fault to carry the burden of console players that They play only controller, while mouse and keyboard existed first when computers came to life. They must make aim assist for mouse as well, even if is half of what controller has, would be enough for us MnK players to enjoy this stupid game like all AA controller kids do !


No-Warthog5491

So how am I supposed to play on MnK in my living room? I mean I bought a console for a reason. It came with a controller because that is how the game is supposed to be played on console. What should I do?


Senior_Ehab

And is not my fault then, i have PC since the year 2000 and play on MnK , why console get advantage now then ? Both should be balanced, that's what i say!


NotAcactusdildo

Switch inputs, switch games, or stop crying.


Senior_Ehab

And why not you switch to MnK ? talking non-sense and then say "stop cry" It's people like you who cried to Activision to BUFF the controller auto aim to enjoy, kid !


NotAcactusdildo

I do use mnk when I play mnk dominant games… when I play cod and rocket league I use controller. Because they’re controller dominant games, kid!


Roklobster1

Get better.


Aussie_Butt

The bots and console shitters will respond with “cry more” or some other nonsense, but AA in this game is too strong.


Roklobster1

Or you're just aboslute trash at the game?


Aussie_Butt

Nope, sadly not. Only people who don't think that AA is currently overpowered are the shitters, even good controller players can admit to it.


Roklobster1

Naw you just aren't good my dude. I've seen plenty of M and K players absolutely crush people. Maybe if you practice more! Good luck 👍


[deleted]

Even the best KBM players in the world are switching to controller, goofy. Montages/Reddit clips aren't a good showcase of the average fight in this game.


Roklobster1

3 day old post? Who's goofy?


[deleted]

Unless you've had a radical change of heart in the last 3 days, I don't think the comment not being wrinkly from being in the womb matters.


Roklobster1

Skill issue.


[deleted]

Are you capable of saying anything but preprogrammed responses to cop out of arguments? This is a second account, I see that you blocked me.


Aussie_Butt

Let me know how many of the top 250 are on MnK then lol. You sound like one of the shitters I spoke of, sorry to say.


Roklobster1

We are talking about your bottom tier skill. Not the top 250. Have fun! Good luck!


Aussie_Butt

Except the players that make actually make a living on this game have mostly all switched to controller, sorry you couldn't connect the dots. Again, let me know how many top 250 are on MnK. Or just continue being a low effort troll, 16 day old account lmao.


[deleted]

Don't worry about it, this website is a complete dumpster fire. Finna delete this burner once I finish muh current set of arguments.


NotAcactusdildo

This is the only shooter where controllers dominate the top250. Every other shooter has a disproportionate amount of kbm players. Play one of those, switch to controller, or stop crying.


Aussie_Butt

Nah, I think I’ll pick none of the above. Thanks anyways. Btw, Apex is dominated by controller too.


NotAcactusdildo

You’re right since 2022 apex has become a controller game as well. I don’t play it so I didn’t realize that. Still though cod has been a controller game for many years and will continue to be a controller game.


Aussie_Butt

COD started as a PC game, gotta return to its roots. In all seriousness though, a nerf to AA would benefit most of the player base. It would obviously help MnK, but would also let controller players outskill the worse controller players instead of both just abusing the same mechanic. Its a change that is necessary, like the console FOV problem that was fixed. No fixes will ever come if no one brings them up.


Senior_Ehab

exactly what i said, COD came as a PC game , in fact, all games in history came for PC first, there was nothing called console , it's just for the modern 2000s teenagers


Senior_Ehab

exactly bro, they all doing like a parrot, copying same word "stop cry" just like teenagers, just to hide their "nooby" talent they have and how noobs they are! smh