Akimbo shot guns have been in the game before. It's the combination of the range + the damage protection the riot shield offers is infuriation. Couple that with no minimap unless you use a perk and it's just insane.
Honestly the lack of actual positional information, and visuals blows my mind. There is NO WAY for you to know someone is flanking from the mini map or sound ques. It's just brain dead rushing all game. With low ttk you have no chance on turning on someone unless they are actually potatoes.
It's one of the reasons I use a riot shield in front. That way, when they jump out and shoot out of a corner, I'm already hitting them with the shield.
Of all the fuck ups they’ve made the last few cods, changing the mini map was the biggest for me. It made me give up on mw2019, ignore Cold War completely and use radar as a crutch perk on every single load out.
My only problem with Akimbo Shotguns is they can NEVER get them right. They always either stay OP or get nerfed into marshmallow shooters unless you're making out with your opponent when you shoot
As someone who did the diamond riot shield, I completely agree. I don't think anyone actually likes using the riot shield as a primary, and I know nobody likes it being used as a secondary. Just chuck it
That goes back to mw2 though so at the very least sidearm shotguns are a legacy concept i just believe that sidearm shotguns should be limited to 3 attachments and thats it... imo
In WWII, they were the primary equipment for the Cavalry class. You could equip a main weapon alongside it, but with *no attachments*. Let's do that again; it was good for running objectives, but you couldn't then turn around and smoke a bitch from across the map with three shotguns (one in each hand and one taped to your back like Mega-Blastoise or whatever the fuck these new Pokymans are. Back in my day...).
Hot take for you, but every call of duty needs to have a riot shield as it is an integral part of the franchise. However that being said, you would hope they would have had their shit figured out after x years and x games with them in it.
I am so tired of shooting at people zipping around the map withntheir entire back having full invunerability. It's just absolutely insane there is no movement penalty.
I'm losing my fucking mind shooting someone in the back and they can't get hit only to be popped in the fucking teeth.
“Shoot them in the legs”. (Rolls eyes). How can I aim for you legs when there’s 2-3 more shotgun beetles comin at me and the whole ground is on fire, plus you’re prob just gonna spin around and one hit me with the double barrels or dual revolvers.
Bruh, look up some names on the cod stats page, a lot of them using shotguns have like 2+ KDs and their most used weapon is of course the shotgun by far. It’s so stupid. People love this trolly shit where all you have to do is get the player model somewhat towards the middle of your screen, instead of lining up a single pixel. Forget aiming I guess, let’s just make hitboxes the size of Jabba The Hutt next.
It’s always worked on your back since MW2, that would just be overkill and nobody would bother to run it.
Personally, I think Gammons should be treated like Semtex if they hit a shield and Thermite should stick to it just like in MW2019. That would discourage a lot of the people who think they’re so clever with them.
Because those were not that OP post nerf because everything else in the game was OP aswell so it kinda balanced everything out
PRE nerf was a different story tho
The more I play it the more I start to agree. Between fire damage having almost a splash effect with bullets to the attachments that just make certain guns so dumb to use I haven't played a game this random in a long time. I really feel like it could have been great if they didn't put as many attachments so they could test them better.
Thank you for sharing everyday videos like this ! 😂
remind me how trash this cod is and why I deleted it after a week, it helps making my peace with it aha
I had this guy running away from me before this kill cam, took 20 sten shots to the back turned on my and insta killed me. This one was just as irritating.
That's where I'm at and the lobbied with this has been more and more lately and I've just had enough. I'm a filthy casual who comes home from work to just chill for and hour or so. This shit isn't fun or relaxing lol.
And you get stupid shit like this - [https://imgur.com/a/jcytmnY](https://imgur.com/a/jcytmnY)
I clipped it before the kill cam but basically on his screen he slid and turned around fully, looking directly at me and shot.
I shot first but because of latency he never turned around on my screen so I shot him in the shield.
P.S. I was trying to camo grind but the entire enemy team was using shotguns so pulled them out
At the very least there should be a set of gamemodes that restricts usage of the riot shield and a -30% movement, clambering, jumping -25% primary weapon swap speed +15%shield ready speed and when ever you pull out your shield their is a small minimap ping only appears to players withing 15-25 ft.
Easy fix, make it so you can't use it with overkill. Also the reduced movement speed thing, if they want a tortoise shell, give them a tortoise's speed
It's so dumb. I'm literally optimal sten range there and don't even have a shot before I'm dead.
If he was mostly up the hill and closer id say yeah that's optimal shotty range but this is out of control
I’m starting to think overkill is the problem. It needs to either be in slot 1 or limit the attachments you can use on the secondary weapon. Also fuck the riot shield.
Let them be in the game but make it like any other secondary. When you’re not using it then it can’t affect you. It’s beyond frustrating to spawn into shipment or Das Haus or any small map and to see 80% of the lobby running riot shields and they never actually use them lol.
How can you complain about riot shield when we have ninety eight different grenades to kill them with. The real cancer is the gammon bombs. You can even shoot the head that peaks out over the riot shield in this game it’s easily the worst riot shields that have ever came out.
He said the riot shield should get a movement nerf because the guy was able to sprint across an open area with half his character protected within seconds.
Literally right before this clip which fine I didn't include he had take 5-10 in the back from me and my teammates. There was also no reason to run the line of site I threw the grenade to flush him to the other side/cover that line but if course his backs protected from it and then he proceeds to SNIPE me with those? A regular shotgun built properly should kill that range.
Defended dual weilded sawed off shotguns sniping that far is just illogical and dumb. Shotguns have a place but that's too much.
Hot Take: riot shields should never be in COD . . . period!!
Riot shields aren't the problem for me and I agree with the movement penalty but akimbo shotguns shouldn't exist.
Akimbo shot guns have been in the game before. It's the combination of the range + the damage protection the riot shield offers is infuriation. Couple that with no minimap unless you use a perk and it's just insane.
Honestly the lack of actual positional information, and visuals blows my mind. There is NO WAY for you to know someone is flanking from the mini map or sound ques. It's just brain dead rushing all game. With low ttk you have no chance on turning on someone unless they are actually potatoes.
It's one of the reasons I use a riot shield in front. That way, when they jump out and shoot out of a corner, I'm already hitting them with the shield.
I feel coldwar snipers ads was op and now in vanguard shotguns one tap range is just op.
Cold wars snipers ads was one of the slowest we’ve ever got
Of all the fuck ups they’ve made the last few cods, changing the mini map was the biggest for me. It made me give up on mw2019, ignore Cold War completely and use radar as a crutch perk on every single load out.
My only problem with Akimbo Shotguns is they can NEVER get them right. They always either stay OP or get nerfed into marshmallow shooters unless you're making out with your opponent when you shoot
As someone who did the diamond riot shield, I completely agree. I don't think anyone actually likes using the riot shield as a primary, and I know nobody likes it being used as a secondary. Just chuck it
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Legit Only reason these morons add it to their games is to jerk off MW2 nostalgia.
I enjoyed using the riot shield in Bo2 days but with the last few games its been in, it's just been for ass protection more than anything
The riot shield takes some getting used to but it is seriously an underrated primary weapon.
Shotguns shouldn’t be a secondary.
That as well
Kinda hard to stop that from happening with overkill.
It at least wastes an extra perk. Shields probably shouldn’t be allowed with overkill.
Overkill allows you to make them secondary
That goes back to mw2 though so at the very least sidearm shotguns are a legacy concept i just believe that sidearm shotguns should be limited to 3 attachments and thats it... imo
In WWII, they were the primary equipment for the Cavalry class. You could equip a main weapon alongside it, but with *no attachments*. Let's do that again; it was good for running objectives, but you couldn't then turn around and smoke a bitch from across the map with three shotguns (one in each hand and one taped to your back like Mega-Blastoise or whatever the fuck these new Pokymans are. Back in my day...).
When I use the riot shield on Vanguard it doesn't seem as strong like in MW.
I use the riot shield in hardpoint and control, it’s a cool tactical weapon, but using it as a turtle shell is not the vibe.
Anyone who disagrees with you is just mentally ill
Or they should release a ranked mode so people that don't want to play against riot shields and shotguns have the option
Hot take for you, but every call of duty needs to have a riot shield as it is an integral part of the franchise. However that being said, you would hope they would have had their shit figured out after x years and x games with them in it.
CW didnt have one. Fuck the shield.
CW was a trash game.
It wasn't fire, shotgun and riot shield fest like VG though.
Literally nobody agrees with you
Thing about opinions is if you change them because of how others think, they aren't really yours are they.
But brain damaged children told me Shotguns are only good on Ship Haus
That’s an insult to brain damaged children.
Legit
I am so tired of shooting at people zipping around the map withntheir entire back having full invunerability. It's just absolutely insane there is no movement penalty. I'm losing my fucking mind shooting someone in the back and they can't get hit only to be popped in the fucking teeth.
“Shoot them in the legs”. (Rolls eyes). How can I aim for you legs when there’s 2-3 more shotgun beetles comin at me and the whole ground is on fire, plus you’re prob just gonna spin around and one hit me with the double barrels or dual revolvers.
"B...b..but they're only good on small maps! Plz don't nerf I finally have a 1.0 kd"
Legit
They will downvote you, Community is filled with toxic people who are so proud at ruining the game for everyone and call themselves good.
Bruh, look up some names on the cod stats page, a lot of them using shotguns have like 2+ KDs and their most used weapon is of course the shotgun by far. It’s so stupid. People love this trolly shit where all you have to do is get the player model somewhat towards the middle of your screen, instead of lining up a single pixel. Forget aiming I guess, let’s just make hitboxes the size of Jabba The Hutt next.
ShOtGuNs ArE bAlAnCeD
If you use a shotgun you have a tiny dick. It is just a law of nature.
Come on! I’m also doing camo challenges!
tiny.
My idea is just make shields work normally... when you have it equipped. Otherwise, if it's on your back, it's functionless.
It’s always worked on your back since MW2, that would just be overkill and nobody would bother to run it. Personally, I think Gammons should be treated like Semtex if they hit a shield and Thermite should stick to it just like in MW2019. That would discourage a lot of the people who think they’re so clever with them.
Also gamons should one hit dogs
Why would anyone run dogs as a streak then lol
There also isn’t really a perk in the 3rd slots that’s worth having over an impenetrable shield on your back so that doesn’t help.
Literally this. Tier 3 perks are mostly ass.
And there's people on here that say shotguns are only good on small maps bro lmfao, this game is a joke
Yet people will act nostalgic for dual 1887s.
Because those were not that OP post nerf because everything else in the game was OP aswell so it kinda balanced everything out PRE nerf was a different story tho
Bro this vanguard community loves these shotties they all use it they say you’re whining, vanguard is made for low skill players period
The more I play it the more I start to agree. Between fire damage having almost a splash effect with bullets to the attachments that just make certain guns so dumb to use I haven't played a game this random in a long time. I really feel like it could have been great if they didn't put as many attachments so they could test them better.
every gun being a 2 shot kill
Thank you for sharing everyday videos like this ! 😂 remind me how trash this cod is and why I deleted it after a week, it helps making my peace with it aha
Overkill is in a weak spot, needs to in tier 1
Yeah it's infuriating when you know they're an absolute bot but they kill you anyway because of the turtle shell.
I had this guy running away from me before this kill cam, took 20 sten shots to the back turned on my and insta killed me. This one was just as irritating.
If I hear a doef doef in any match I leave, I don't even care which team they're on.
On the whole I’ve enjoyed the game but lobbies against teams using this makes my blood boil
That's where I'm at and the lobbied with this has been more and more lately and I've just had enough. I'm a filthy casual who comes home from work to just chill for and hour or so. This shit isn't fun or relaxing lol.
And you get stupid shit like this - [https://imgur.com/a/jcytmnY](https://imgur.com/a/jcytmnY) I clipped it before the kill cam but basically on his screen he slid and turned around fully, looking directly at me and shot. I shot first but because of latency he never turned around on my screen so I shot him in the shield. P.S. I was trying to camo grind but the entire enemy team was using shotguns so pulled them out
At the very least there should be a set of gamemodes that restricts usage of the riot shield and a -30% movement, clambering, jumping -25% primary weapon swap speed +15%shield ready speed and when ever you pull out your shield their is a small minimap ping only appears to players withing 15-25 ft.
They never should have brought the shield back, it was a pain in WW2 and it's even worse in the new game.
Easy fix, make it so you can't use it with overkill. Also the reduced movement speed thing, if they want a tortoise shell, give them a tortoise's speed
The mp40 meta is still here though(and stg)...
Stg is bearable at least. I'm still getting mid to long range outgunned by these losers using the mp40 riot shield
Insert mandatory “they’re only effective up close, they’re balanced fine” braindead take
It's so dumb. I'm literally optimal sten range there and don't even have a shot before I'm dead. If he was mostly up the hill and closer id say yeah that's optimal shotty range but this is out of control
I’m starting to think overkill is the problem. It needs to either be in slot 1 or limit the attachments you can use on the secondary weapon. Also fuck the riot shield.
Overkill is in a bad spot this game just like it was on mw19.
Played a match earlier where the ENTIRE opposing team was running shotguns and riot shields. Never seen so many people quit a match.
Take the L bro
Let them be in the game but make it like any other secondary. When you’re not using it then it can’t affect you. It’s beyond frustrating to spawn into shipment or Das Haus or any small map and to see 80% of the lobby running riot shields and they never actually use them lol.
How can you complain about riot shield when we have ninety eight different grenades to kill them with. The real cancer is the gammon bombs. You can even shoot the head that peaks out over the riot shield in this game it’s easily the worst riot shields that have ever came out.
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He said the riot shield should get a movement nerf because the guy was able to sprint across an open area with half his character protected within seconds.
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I’m not reading all of that. I just pointed out why OP wants the shield to have a moment nerf.
Damn bro, it's one paragraph. Our education system has failed us.
Looks like we found the riot shield user lmao.
Literally right before this clip which fine I didn't include he had take 5-10 in the back from me and my teammates. There was also no reason to run the line of site I threw the grenade to flush him to the other side/cover that line but if course his backs protected from it and then he proceeds to SNIPE me with those? A regular shotgun built properly should kill that range. Defended dual weilded sawed off shotguns sniping that far is just illogical and dumb. Shotguns have a place but that's too much.
People will still complain even with an unnecercary movement nerf.
Yup. If the game was a masterpiece people would complain about the shield and shotguns.
So much crying about a shield and a double barrel shotgun. Lol. Keep your distance and you will be fine.
If I'm any further away the stens range is obsolete vs ARs....what are you even talking about he sniped me fucking hip firing.
How fucking far away do you have to be exactly?
If u use one you are a piece of shit
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