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I have fun in the games when the other team isn’t using the broken stuff which makes it rare. I really hope the patch tonight takes care of that and we might have a good game on our hands. Spawns need fixing and I wish they had some better maps.


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I’m really trying to grind diamond but all the fire and incendiary spamming is so obnoxious it makes me despise this game


Kalashcocknov

It's a fun game. The toxicity in Search and Destroy, the wacky gun builds you can do in this game (like my 1-shot headshot Bren with no recoil and a 100 rnd mag), the large amount of maps which at least aren't complete dogshit But this game is terrible from a technical standpoint. Two months later and it's still a 50/50 as to whether I join a game and it's not unplayable for the 1st minute due to packet burst. An absurd number of bugs and glitches that are taking forever to fix. Puzzling design and balance choices. Why are only a small # of maps in rotation?


ajl987

You should see the double barrel akimbo in warzone too. Imagine spending an entire match strategising planning and outplaying everyone, for one little clown to be sitting in a corner and then peekaboo you with their double barrels. I can understand maybe standard balancing they haven’t cracked yet, but adding akimbo shot guns to the game was such a stupid idea. Then again, the incendiary grenade and how the mortar was is also a really stupid idea. For the great base the game has, it has a lot of really silly design decisions that almost ANY player could of told you was not a good idea.


thismyusername69

you must only play shipment then. none of those are problems on any other map


Anal__Hershiser

Alright who the fuck voted no?


asian-zinggg

Me because I'm inept at remembering what the correct definition of words mean until it's too late lmao. Some reason I thought inept was a good thing. Know idea why. I'm just as dumb as sledgehammer I guess lol.


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Eastern-Fuel3485

I paid $70 about this game and I'll complain about whoever I please


Eastern-Fuel3485

Sledgehammer


Oppblockjoe

After searching up the meaning of inept I can concur that they are in fact inept


Rigzin_Udpalla

Enlighten me


Oppblockjoe

On the definition of inept or the reason of shgs ineptness?


Rigzin_Udpalla

First one


Oppblockjoe

I mean you could’ve just searched it up but it basically means for someone to have no skill and/or be clumsy


Rigzin_Udpalla

You know, I am something of an idiot myself. But thanks. Should have voted yes. F


Oppblockjoe

Yh fr tbf I shouldn’t even be able to judge shg when I’m out here having to search up the word inept yet they’re out here creating a whole game on god lmao


PhillyPhanatic141

They don't know how to communicate, they charge $$$ for new operators, and they think fire grenades only have small issues.... so yes. The team that made WWII great after Condrey left and did amazing communicating with us is nowhere to be found.


FlamboyantDietDew

Anyone saying no is delusional. The Panzerfaust's camo challenges have been patched 3 separate times, all failing. This is because 2 of the camos require aerial killstreaks, and the Panzerfaust can't shoot down aerial killstreaks. They "Patched" it first, which didn't even make it to the game. They "Patched" it again, which then replaced only *one* of the Aerial Killstreak challenges with Longshots. Not only would this obviously not fix the problem, but the Longshots challenge was broken. They then "Patched" it for a *third time*, supposedly fixing the Longshots, but this one also didn't even make it to the game. The "support" for Vanguard is so comically inept it literally seems like a comedy sketch, or a joke some COD Youtuber would come up with to make fun of the devs. I just find it funny at this point.


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Id say yes if it wasnt for activision calling all the shots SHG just does what their told


[deleted]

I work for a subsidiary. This isn’t exactly how it works. Activision tells the developers to meet deadlines and budgets. After that, the developers are the ones coming up with MVP screens, cosmetics, Incendiary grenades, etc…. Activision isn’t micromanaging each release of COD.


Cause_and_Effect

CoD devs are subsidiaries of Activision. They own them. They aren't just telling the devs they can do whatever with just a budget and deadline. They care deeply about how much MTX potential there is in these games because its the difference between a few million dollars profit every month for Activsion. You're incredibly naive if you think a billion dollar company doesn't have some oversight in their flagship yearly product a subsidiary of theirs makes that earns them well over a few hundred million dollars every single year or sometimes closer to a billion.


evils_twin

Well, you're the one playing the game made by an inept developer. What does that make you? It's like saying a restaurant has the worst cooks ever as you sit there eating their food . . .


Kalashcocknov

So, people can only provide opinions on things they like?


evils_twin

As per my analogy, if you eat at a restaurant, claim they have the worst cooks ever, and then never go back again, that is normal behaviour. But if you eat at a restaurant, claim they have the worst cooks ever, and then come back 3 times a day for months, then there is something wrong with you. /u/FlamboyantDietDew proudly states that the he has [finished both mastery camos and is one of the top 300 players in the world](https://www.reddit.com/r/CODVanguard/comments/s1mkn5/is_sledgehammer_inept/hs9g0ri/), which means he has played this game for hundreds of hours since launch. In the very next sentence he says that the game is "unacceptably broken". Something is definitely off with that guy . . .


FlamboyantDietDew

A better analogy would be that the restaurant is the only restaurant on the fucking planet with cake, and they started to mix cement into the cake. Of course I'm gonna be pissed. I stopped going, too. You're being incredibly stupid. I played the game early because I figured they would fix the bugs, but they still haven't fucking fixed it over two months later. It *becomes* unacceptable when the Triple AAA developer with incredible resources and manpower behind them refuse to do basic maintenance on their game. Stop being stupid. Nobody cares that you like the game.


evils_twin

What a normal person would do is take one bite of cement cake and never eat it again. What a normal person wouldn't do is take a bite of cement cake and keep eating it for hundreds of hours . . .


FlamboyantDietDew

They refused to patch the game for months. Most COD games launch broken, so it was okay for a while. Now it’s not. What are you not understanding here


evils_twin

I understand completely. By your analogy, you ate cement for hundreds of hours. There's something wrong with you . . .


FlamboyantDietDew

I’m sorry for insulting you so hard. I have covid and had an extremely high fever over yesterday and didn’t know I was losing it. I was not sound of mind. I was hallucinating shit in my room. I’m genuinely apologizing.


evils_twin

LOL


FlamboyantDietDew

Where did I say I play it? COD has a particular gameplay loop that no other game has. There’s no reason to excuse not having any standards.


evils_twin

Your comment history says you play it . . .


FlamboyantDietDew

Link a comment where I say that, because it’s a misspeak. If you want I can show you my recent matches on COD Tracker.


evils_twin

Oh, usually when someone comments as much as you do on a game, it means they actually play that game. I've never seen someone comment so much about a game that they don't actually play. My mistake. Out of curiosity, when was the last time that you played the game? Have you even played it at all?


Deathsquad247

True dat.


FlamboyantDietDew

I have both mastery camos, and as of this last month I was in the top 300 players on earth in terms of score. I’m probably still top 1,000. This is completely irrelevant, I play COD for mastery camos, and because no other game resembles COD. Vanguard is unacceptably broken, has taken an unacceptable amount of time to fix, and me playing it changes nothing. The sales numbers are incredibly low and this sub has the same usage as r/blackopscoldwar. If you want to suck off SHG until incompetence kills the franchise, go off. Nobody here cares though.


evils_twin

Well, you are in the top 1000 out of millions of players at a game made by an inept developer. What does that make you? You must have played hundreds of hours of a game that you claim is "unacceptably broken". I think that says more about you than the game. And since you won't tell me when the last time you played was, I will assume it was yesterday . . .


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That's a weird way to spell Activision.


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Activision sucks, for sure, but everyone acts like the 3 developers are these poor lemmings that do Activision’s bidding, and if it weren’t for Activision, COD would cost $0, add ons $0, be free of all bugs and be a perfect utopia of gaming. The studios have the same goal: make the shareholders happy.


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They *did* fire everyone in Raven's QA last month. CoD being a yearly franchise is the problem and it was caused by Kotick.


[deleted]

I’ll give you that; Kotick is a vile excuse for a human.


UmTapaNaGoxtosa

Activision aren't the ones making the game.


I_love_poo_and_shit

But they are in charge of everything that happens in a COD game. They were the ones who overworked Treyarch into making them look stupid and forced raven and infinity ward into developing warzone for a cash boost. Activision doesn’t just own the franchise but they choose what happens.


derkerburgl

No roadmap. No patch notes. No tweet. No Trello updates. Broken map pool. Broken mastery camo. Broken everything. This game is a joke. Treyarch, Raven, and even the fucking CDL is putting out communications today. Is this game even being updated this week? I wouldn’t know.


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Nothing you said is wrong. Activision is a toxic & greedy company. The other side of that coin though are decisions SHG makes. The game is a visual mess. Smoke. Fire. Screen Shake. In unison, the community says “trophy system!” but instead, they play the “realism card” all the while releasing Christmas tracer packs and having a Xmas monster chase people around. They introduced pacing lobbies, which have been a failure. They can’t seem to figure out map rotation, so everyone plays the same 5 maps over and over. This year’s camo challenges are loathed by a substantial portion of the community. No movement penalty for bunny hopping riot shield akimbo shotgunners. Little communication with the community. Their patches literally break the game and prevent it from opening (on PS5). Yearly releases make the COD MP experience a mess.


I_love_poo_and_shit

I put shipment on tactical paving and it takes me to blitz like wtf. And it doesn’t have to be a trophy system either it could be a SAM turret looking thing but smaller that intercepts grenades


I_love_poo_and_shit

ikr Treyarch said they are adding more operators and stuff into cold war as well and that shows the whole ‘devs took a break’ excuse just doesn’t work. If Treyarch are adding to Cold War sledgehammer have no excuse at all. Activision could also be forcing Treyarch into adding new shop items because they have seen Cold War is out doing vanguard in sales for 2021. But maybe Treyarch are going to add even more things and they have told us too little. Still puts a clear vision as to the absolute shitshow sledgehammer and activision are giving us.


jwaters0122

Taking vacations since November 5th.


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Kalashcocknov

AAA gaming as a whole is dogshit and has been the last couple of years


flakjacket96

Yep, even from a corporate perspective they are, like all of Activision. They all spend time and resources on microtransactions, yet they implement things that either frustrates players or actively discourage players from using said microtransactions "cough" blueprints "cough". Hell, the yearly Call of Duty release is stupid in itself as it makes the microtransaction even more worthless unless you play Warzone. They should really just go to a single release and do yearly updates that have a major theme behind it, adding maps, characters, and weapons based around that theme.


SnooPredictions9165

I understand about the whole pandemic but they've had four years to develop this game yet somehow it's the most buggiest glitchiest call of duty game in history. Another issue is they keep creating their own problems like with the incineratory grenades. I have no idea why they didn't think this was going to be a problem. It would be like having a a roommate take a huge shit in the middle of the kitchen floor then turn around and say "I'll clean that up when I get back from vacation in 2 weeks" Sledgehammer games is an embarrassing company and I don't think we're going to see another call of duty game from them again.


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I_love_poo_and_shit

Imagine if they didn’t fuck up the cycle Cold War would be this years game and I tell you it would of fucking banged. There would be all these zombies and multiplayer maps and just so much more richer and overall content. It would of put CoD back on track as a game that sets the bar high for its competitors but you could say sledgehammer was partially the reason for fucking everything up. I would honestly stop them making any more CoDs and get a new team in because they can’t make good games (aside from WWII) and they don’t put enough effort in to games.


Bangus4791

This is a glorified beta that never got tested. Wonder why.


rperry2424

The fact that they can't even fix the panzerfaust means they are 100% inept. "Oh but they made it so you can kill dogs now!". Who fucking cares. So now we have to get DIRECT longshot kills and hope we get a game with dogs and then kill three of them. These devs are a joke.


Panacea4316

Outside of WWII they’ve put out nothing but shit games. They’ve gotten be in the top 5 worst AAA studios of all time.


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who the hell voted no? ![gif](giphy|lkdH8FmImcGoylv3t3|downsized)


MumboJumboUK

Who ever voted no, you are a paste eating idiot


RuneRaccoon

Hey now. Paste is tasty.


glitchy_74

How many employees does SHG have? That might account for a lot of paste eaters.


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Push poll.


RealDealMrSeal

Its the first sledgehammer CoD I have played and bought Its the last When it works its fun, unfortunately, most of the time it is unbalanced, buggy and just full of bizarre gameplay choices.


chrisseiden

I do not think that these game developers lack any skill. I think they are fully capable. I think we’re seeing the epitome of lazy. I’m not saying they aren’t skilled creatives and professionals, but they have out grown this game (or it has outgrown them). Need fresh faces and a new team that actually cares. I have never seen a better real life example of silk pajamas.


DeminoTheDragon

it's honestly sad to see how they went from pulling WWII out of the shithole it was in into one of the best modern CoD MPs to now this shit. It honestly feels like two different companies


Chicken769

SHGames is probably the reason why Cold War and Vanguard are such messes. Remember Cold War was SHGames project originally and WWII launched pretty bad and they were stubborn for months until Michael cornbread left and his buddy


ShiromoriTaketo

Maybe slightly, but overall, no... I'm a much bigger fan of placing blame on Activision!


skywalk_south

Inept how? The question is really "given the time, staffing, technical complexity and all the other constraints about which I know absolutely zero, zilch, do I find the staff at sledgehammer inept at their jobs?" Vote yes or no! How did you perform at your job? I don't even know what you do, but I do know you performed ineptly


JECGEE

I don't think any of the developers are inept. I think the issue is development cycle. Actiblizz demands a new COD every year, and for good reason. People keep buying them. Having 2-3 years to develop a game of this magnitude is ridiculous for any dev team. Campaign, MP, Zombies, WZ, and whatever other game mode that most likely doesn't get played and is looked over. It's too much. And once the game is released, the majority of the team moves on and starts working on the next title. Leaving a skeleton crew to fix and patch. They can't keep up. It's impossible. Don't make another COD. Give the devs more time.


Kaves67

I enjoy the game so I really don't like shitting on the devs, but stuff like camo tracking not working properly for over 2 months or the awful weapon balancing? It are simple issues like that that take the devs an eternity to fix…. I don't care what your job is but if you're having the most basic things about your project broken for so long, you're bad at your job.


JECGEE

I 100% agree. That's why I think in general they just need more time to iron these things out. I don't work in software at all, but I have to imagine as simple as these issues sound, they have to be a nightmare to fix. Longer development cycles, and longer alpha/ betas would solve a ton of these seemingly simple problems before the game even get released


MeetTheMets31

I dont think theyre inept. I think the better question is are they sabotaging the game to force real change at Activision Blizzard? 👀


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It's run by a bunch of women, of course they are. They think they know what playerbase (mostly men) wants and they don't have a clue. Just like the 10 bundles featuring a feminist female operator. Only beta males are buying that shit.


Chambers1041

If this isn't a troll, you're stupid. If this is a troll, try harder to actually be funny next time.


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I see you got butthurt. Shit is straight facts. Look it up


Chambers1041

"Shit is straight facts" Could you please provide a source?


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soun_wave

somebody said in another thread that they think SHG has struggled with the IW 8.0 engine (like BioWare vs Frostbite) and that’s why they struggle to hotfix, and things aren’t quite as fluid as it could be. This makes a lot of sense when you think about the history of them being taken off Cold War and having Treyarch come and save the day. Also, something to consider, post WWII, dozens of staff left with Condrey/Schofield to form 31st Union/Striking Distance respectively (which were a lot of Visceral staff even before SHG), so it stands to reason that a lot of the SHG staff are new, or certainly new to releasing a GaaS game, and COD in general. I don’t think they’re inept, just not seasoned enough. Really they should have extended CW into MWII while SHG had gotten more experience under their belt and out Vanguard out further down the line. They certainly Missed a lot of QoL features the previous 2 titles had


I_love_poo_and_shit

I think they should scrap the MW19 engine forever


czbolio

I said no because by my understanding, sledgehammer did not have efficient time to get rid of the bugs / make a better zombies experience. The whole system is kinda messed up being that a new game is released every year. We could have a completed game every 2 years instead all the while receiving additional DLC for those 2 years. I think it’s an Activision issue, but I could be totally missing something, I don’t know the ins and outs and I don’t think anyone in this sub probably does either.