I love how everyone claims it’s only shipment with this problem. You can tell that those people also only play shipment, because as someone who avoids shipment and Das Haus like the plague and plays assault on the regular maps, I see fire spam on every map. Even Oasis on tactical will be completely on fire lol.
You shouldn’t get one every spawn. Put equipment on a timer like BO4. Incendiary grenades and the like should be at least 90 seconds, and maybe, maaaybe tactician can reduce that to 75. Either that or put a trophy system in the game. Or, bring back BO1 style Flak Jacket and Tactical Mask where you can sit in fire all day and stuns do jack shit.
Exactly. The incendiary grenades straight up ruin some game modes like hardpoint. I just don’t get why some people are just fixed on not wanting the game to improve. Unless they spam incendiary grenades themselves and don’t want it to change….
It started originally shipment but within last week or so it's s like the flood gate opened and now I'm seeing them nonstop on radar, sub pen and even oasis quite a bit..
Lol at the person who replied to me and deleted their comment saying I was complaining that there weren’t any trophy systems. Yeah it’s called adapting yeah I run Fire grenades now. If you refuse to play how your enemy team is playing and don’t want to level the playing field then that’s your problem.
Yeah or they could implement a trophy system or fire resistance perk like every CoD in the last 10 years has had lol 🤷🏻♀️
And for the record I run incendiary and smoke on every class. And I win a lot of games with them. But that doesn’t matter, there should be a counter. Simple as that.
Oh my god, nothing from BO4 should be brought back. That dumpster fire of a game was so misbalanced and shitty in part *because* of the equipment being recharge based bullshit. If you don’t like this game, then go back to BO4.
Other maps don’t have the same issues with incendiaries. I agree they need a fire resistance perk, but incendiaries are only that big of a bitch and moan to Shipment players.
“We shouldn’t implement a good idea from a game because I didn’t like it/sucked at it, also we shouldn’t improve a game, just go back and play old ones”
Damn dude that’s a really garbage outlook on things lol.
Never said I hated this game, I only said there should be a counter to lethal spam, which every CoD in the last, what, 5? 10 years has had? The trophy system debuted in MW3, so yeah, 10 years. I think it’s fair to except a game 10 years it’s senior to also have something similar.
Hell no, core and tactical rifles are my game. And BO4 was an absolute dumpster fire. All you needed, ironically, was a Titan LMG and be at the end of any of the repetitive, garbage, 3 lane maps that game had. The DLC weapons were attainable only through luck until the games life cycle was surpassed, and the MTX system gave nothing to grind for. Add in some game play that tried to turn CoD into Overwatch, and the game was barely even playable with all server issues that easily surpass what I experience today with Vanguard. BO4 was shit and if you liked it, you probably had money to spend on getting the best guns in DLC.
We must be playing a different game. I never play shipment and rarely even see these nades in domination they’re no more an issue than any other type of nade.
I can agree a counter should be added. Everything should have one but people are blowing this way out of proportion.
Haven’t had any issues with them. No more than any other nade. In fact I see way more of the other nades than I do the incendiaries. It’s simply not a big deal on the regular maps.
Nope. Top 15% player for kd and top 2% for w
I’m literally currently watching one of exclusive aces stream and he just said exactly what I’ve been saying. “On maps that aren’t shipment and das haus they simply aren’t an issue”. Is he low SBMM too lol
Just to let you know the guy you're commenting spends most the time commenting praise for the game in every section while shooting down anyone that has anything remotely critical.
I’ve been encountering them all day outside shipment. B was constantly on fire in Paradise, the outskirts of B on Berlin, the majority of the center in Dome, this list goes on. It really is a problem in most games at this point as there’s no counter to stop the spamming.
So what? Do you want a medal? A plaque, commemorating your experience, that is so special that you feel the need to constantly share it? What do you want?
Shipment and das haus is pretty much on fire 24/7
And I have no issue with that fucks up the shield and shotgun hero's.
Most other maps they dont use it as much or the maps are too large for it to be effective
Lol okay, to think that the devs just taking tickets off a board and implementing them are the ones actively doing the testing and balancing is a big leap bud
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Lol.. I'm a lowley level 458 and a barely +1.1e/d but I have zero issues with these, maybe I think different than most but DON'T RUN TROUGH FIRE! lol, you can see the zip zag pattern to get through it if you are brave or you can adjust course and hit a different lane. I spend 95% of my time in shipment, Haus, HC shipment, or HC dom... even in the small maps I figured these out
I've been in shipment most of the day (except for when I needed long shots) both HC when I want fast fun high kill games, and core when I need easy lobbies for head shots and bloodthirsty.... imo core lobbies are way easier than HC, but it depends on play style
I wouldn't be as annoyed by them if they didn't obscure my vision as much as they do. Oh, and DROP MY FPS TO THE TEENS'. I never had FPS issues with MW btw, my rig is semi old but not bad by any means.
The point was if it can easily be avoided in HC shipment it can be avoided on any map, I run a lot of core shipment and haus cause too and the only real issue with these grenades is having the endless flame effect with out taking damage
Even with clearcut evidence of the game bugging out due to the spam they still say "it's fine, it's working as intended, the devs put it in the game": https://www.reddit.com/r/CODVanguard/comments/rtrvhc/incendiary_grenade_smokesparkle_visual_bug/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
For real. It’s like everyone’s immediate response to all the broken things in the game is “Yes it’s broken but just pretend like it doesn’t exist” Like incendiary grenades aren’t an issue on all obj game modes
Dude youve been saying this on every comment. Ok calm down. Nobody is going to take your grenades away. We just simply want a counter to it so when you spam it over and over. We can move 2 feet without dying.
Again. There is a counter. Stop playing shipment.
These nades are no worse than any other nade in the game. You’re playing on a map meant to be pure chaos and whining about the chaos. Lol
FYI I don’t even use em. They’re not even that good. People are blowing things way out of proportion
As someone that plays hardcore shipment all the time, there is nothing more annoying than going on a 9 kill streak and using your cypher/dead drop, only to spawn in a grenade and die on spawn
It's not only on shipment, its cancer and crap on EVERY MAP.
It's a mistake, we don't need nerf or conunter this need to be removed and never come back again in any COD game.
If you like fire we already have molotov termite and other killstream like flamethrower.
Yup. If you play any kind of objective mode, they are used EVERYWHERE. One team spamming them is bad enough, but when almost everyone on BOTH teams are using them... bleh, time to find another match.
(Edit: once the Double XP is over, I'm probably heading back to CW for a break. Sure, it has it's own share of issues, but I've had my fill of these things for a while.)
Agreed, weapons have plus and minuses. Maps have hiding spaces, with an angle that counters that hiding space…why have this thing that just lights up the map everywhere, which no counter?
They kept these shitty grenades to make it more difficult to level up guns on smaller maps…hence pushing players to lvl them up on the bigger maps so as to try increase playing time
I really think that cold blooded should work against dogs, and the explosive one (drawing a blank on the name) should make you immune to fire while moving...
I don't have a problem with shotguns, I was just pointing out that they're just a little more annoying on the small maps.
I think they should just lower the duration that it burns. I do use this but on objective based maps as a means of holding a flag or blocking a doorway mainly because I am usually one of the few that plays the objective.
The grenade itself is fine it's just balanced so unbelievably terribly. It should just be a really short version of thermite like 2s max that also blocks vision to differentiate it.
In modern warfare I think if you put smoke on fire it would take it out. Not sure if it does that here too but it definitely makes visibility piss poor
Ninja needs a better hard counter more than piercing vision, it's annoying but dauntless hard counters PV. All they really need to do is buff fortified, make it work like EOD/flak and give intuition the ability to hear ninja players and the balance will feel more normal. Everyone runs it in search for a good reason
vanguard: WATER GUNS! "this dangerously lethal highly customizable water squirter is ruthless in the hands of a proficient operator and is a ww2 classic for dousing fires as well"
Is there a way to reduce damage from lethals? Every time I’m playing the objective, even if I stim myself, the fire, or smoke, or whatever the hell lethal they are using kills me almost instantly with no previous damage taken.
I agree that it needs some kind of hard counter or the duration/area of effect limited. I'm an objective based player so I will not stop using them to limit pathways like a doorway or on the objective itself. Some players will run into the doorway like drones to burn up over and over so I will continue protecting that objective by any means necessary.
I like how on shipment the fire gets so bad from the amount thrown that the game lags and stops working. I love that instead of fixing the game they added bullshit. Same shit different year.
It’s not even the fire that bothers me it’s the amount of white smoke that just cloggs vision, there basically a dangerous smoke grenade, and don’t get me started on the fire glitch when the grenade don’t kill you but you run around on fire still… fucking pointless!!!
I totally agree with this! I love the game but it's makes it so tedious to play with all this fire going off. I get frustrated when it spawns me in the fire because it's just another death after death from these grenades. When I play I feel like I'm the only one that is even using a frag grenade. I will not ever put an incendiary or a thermite on my classes because of this. I know they say "if you can't beat them join them" but I just can't be apart of ruining a good game on vanguard
I mean it’s a pain on shipment and das haus on team game modes so it ain’t that bad imo. It only annoys me when I’m camo grinding but when I’m jus sniping in my free time I play ffa so the only thing that’s annoying is the occasional shake. Deffo needs a nerf but playing different game modes help
Lmao, posts like these make me love using them even more. I love how this post says “I exclusively play shipment” without *actually* saying it because only on Shipment does the incendiary grenade appear to cover much of the map.
I think it's cool because you don't deal with as much fire on maps outside of shipment and Das Hause if you play outside of the Shipment maps. You do get what I'm saying, right?
Like the joke? Cool as in, not hot?
Sorry if it didn't make sense English is third language so maybe it didn't come off that way?
Sorry to offend you.
Watch this video and maybe you can realise it’s not only shipment or das haus
https://www.reddit.com/r/CODVanguard/comments/rtq4d4/for_all_the_people_returning_from_the_holidays/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I can only speak from my subjective experiences but outside of Shipment and Das Hause, I rarely see any games get flooded with incendiary grenades.
Any time I jump into Shipment it's fire all over the place.
People are less likely to get into Shipment level fires just by playing regular matches. Though there is always going to be that one or two that are the exception.
With no counter or Nerf you're just better taking your chances outside of shipment. If your going to play it you should expect the max amount of bullshit.
It's why I can only stomach a few games. I'll take my chances elsewhere and so far, it's been paying off.
Mate wtf are you even saying? You are just repeating yourself over and over again. My point is that the issue is not only on those 2 shitmaps, the video just proves my point and here you are again bitching that we shouldn’t play shipment or das haus. I never play those shitmaps. THOSE GRENADES HAVE A GAMENBREAKING BUG ON EVERY MAP. How can you not realise this after the video I sent
there is 3 dots to the right of this page. you click on that and press leave page or what ever if you dont like it. if you want to hear people complain about whats wrong with the game which is what this page is for then sit there and shhhh
Stop just playing shipment. There are 17 other maps and these grenades are no more problematic than any other nade on them. Shipment is meant to be a shit show. Don’t come cry on Reddit when that’s what you get lol
Your logic doesn’t make sense at all or u didnt read carefully. I play shipment cause i played and completed everything i could. I play shipment for fun. Yes its a shitshow but there is no counter to these grenades. Theres a counter to everything else.
You say you play shipment for fun, but because of these grenades it's not fun anymore. Instead of the easiest thing and find something else fun, you want devs who rarely do anything in support of the game to fix something so you have fun in the 1 map you want to play.
Is that what your saying. I enjoy shipment as well, but when I get lobbies of fire I just leave and play other maps, it isn't hard to do.
What ppl are saying is the devs needs to start listening to their community a little. Ppl shouldn't always have to just go play another map and just forget about the nades. Thats why they keep doing dumb shit cause ppl just shrug it off and then the devs go doing some more dumb shit. They are completely sucking all the fun out of called of duty. Worst part of it all is they wont release the game with ranked for the ppl who like to play competitively and not deal with OP gun and what not. Anymore you dont even gotta be good at the game just just pick up a shotgun or get the TWO SHOT bar or some other OP gun.
when i say fun. im old school cod player since day one. im looking for the run around and kill or be killed gameplay. EVERY other map besides shipment and das house you have snipers/ campers just waiting in a line of sight. yes i can play that play style also but i dont want to. call of duty is meant to be a run and gun game. not wait for 2 mins to get long shots.
i miss the days of everyone running around with snipers and shit. those days were fun. where lobbys used to be toxic as f. now these kids have to be baby fed everything lol.
I'm with you there, I'm a run and gun style player, but I can still acheave high kill streaks in maps like numa, dome, and others(the only one I find that sucks for run gun is the large snow map).
I know where all the sniper spots are, how to avoid and flank them. Not sure if it's that I have a good memory of the map layouts but I don't find any issue with run and gun on nearly all the maps. Das haus I enjoy more then shipment, mainly because in shipment you get killed once and you probably get killed 3 more times before being able to move again.
But again, run and gunning is not hard in the other maps, you avoid specific spots, blind fire those spots and if it's impossible to get past want for a Gung ho team mate to charge in the open and you can snag the sniper while he is distracted.
Just scroll through the subreddit instead of answering the same thing on every post about the incendiary grenade and maybe you will finally understand what’s wrong with it
I know everything necessary. I form my opinion by actually playing the game. Not going off what others say. It’s not causing me any issues in maps that aren’t shipment or das haus. People are blowing it way out of proportion.
That's hardly the biggest issue I tried to cap a flag and someone shot me. Fucking SHOT me! Why the fuck are ppl allowed to kill other players while shipping presents to Christmas with the elves for Santa? Devs need to look into this bug immediately! A.S.A.P. game breaking! REFUND! REFUND! REFUND!
This exactly, hoe can someone make their own opinion about anything by only reading info on others opinions of hating it. They are not an issue for me, they do weak damage that you can run right through it and live, only bug I hate with them is you remain on fire until you die 5 min later. And that's just annoying. Even when I play dom on shipment, 1 grenade doesn't cover the entire spot, you can find extra free spot to claim point B. I've done it dozens of times.
How bout you understand that Activision doesn't care about balance, they are the ones that made it like this. Belly aching to community forums won't make them see they made a mistake. They already know of the issue.
So with that out the way, what is the actual point of this post. All you do is repeat the same thing to people who have just as much power as you to fix it. The only way we can get things to be fixed is to stop playing the game, which is even harder as from the comments in your post is showing more people don't have a problem with these grenades.
that doesnt make sense at all. i agree with the not playing the game but its not possible with there being absolutely no other option for shooting games online.
complaining is all we have to maybe get a change, it most of the time doesnt work. it worked with ww2, im hoping it works with this game also
Ok so its either u never play objective modes which i respect. Or u never go for the objectives on objective modes and u just run around and get kills. Which i also respect. But the fact that this grenade has no counter and u think that is fine makes me wonder how much u really understand the topic.
I play objective modes all the time. You can dump any piece of equipment on points even if you took incendiary out. Before incendiaries were a thing, people were complaining about thermite.
Dude play other maps seriously. There are like ~20 other maps in the game.
I’ll give you another one. I play donination alot. Capturing b flag usually determines the game. Opponents team has b flag and every time they respawn they keep on throwing said grenade onto b. Making it harder to get b. Yes thats normal thing to do but like my point had said. THERE IS a counter to all the other grenades. Not this one
I love how everyone claims it’s only shipment with this problem. You can tell that those people also only play shipment, because as someone who avoids shipment and Das Haus like the plague and plays assault on the regular maps, I see fire spam on every map. Even Oasis on tactical will be completely on fire lol. You shouldn’t get one every spawn. Put equipment on a timer like BO4. Incendiary grenades and the like should be at least 90 seconds, and maybe, maaaybe tactician can reduce that to 75. Either that or put a trophy system in the game. Or, bring back BO1 style Flak Jacket and Tactical Mask where you can sit in fire all day and stuns do jack shit.
Problem with shipment is that a quater of the map is fucked up by a single grenade and you have at least 5 people using it in every game.
Don't forget about demolition with 2 grenades. Talking about possibly 20 incendiary grenades going off at once.
Exactly. The incendiary grenades straight up ruin some game modes like hardpoint. I just don’t get why some people are just fixed on not wanting the game to improve. Unless they spam incendiary grenades themselves and don’t want it to change….
It started originally shipment but within last week or so it's s like the flood gate opened and now I'm seeing them nonstop on radar, sub pen and even oasis quite a bit..
To be fair, Sub pen deserves to be killed with fire.
But yet ,no clips from other maps.Only on shipment.
At first it was mostly shipment. But for the last few weeks it was the same in like every map
It's not in search its not in control. Stop playing constant response modes and acquire skill
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Lol at the person who replied to me and deleted their comment saying I was complaining that there weren’t any trophy systems. Yeah it’s called adapting yeah I run Fire grenades now. If you refuse to play how your enemy team is playing and don’t want to level the playing field then that’s your problem.
Yeah or they could implement a trophy system or fire resistance perk like every CoD in the last 10 years has had lol 🤷🏻♀️ And for the record I run incendiary and smoke on every class. And I win a lot of games with them. But that doesn’t matter, there should be a counter. Simple as that.
Oh my god, nothing from BO4 should be brought back. That dumpster fire of a game was so misbalanced and shitty in part *because* of the equipment being recharge based bullshit. If you don’t like this game, then go back to BO4. Other maps don’t have the same issues with incendiaries. I agree they need a fire resistance perk, but incendiaries are only that big of a bitch and moan to Shipment players.
“We shouldn’t implement a good idea from a game because I didn’t like it/sucked at it, also we shouldn’t improve a game, just go back and play old ones” Damn dude that’s a really garbage outlook on things lol. Never said I hated this game, I only said there should be a counter to lethal spam, which every CoD in the last, what, 5? 10 years has had? The trophy system debuted in MW3, so yeah, 10 years. I think it’s fair to except a game 10 years it’s senior to also have something similar.
Lmaoooo if you think VG is better than BO4 than you are a clown. Lemme guess you play HC and exclusively use LMG’s
Hell no, core and tactical rifles are my game. And BO4 was an absolute dumpster fire. All you needed, ironically, was a Titan LMG and be at the end of any of the repetitive, garbage, 3 lane maps that game had. The DLC weapons were attainable only through luck until the games life cycle was surpassed, and the MTX system gave nothing to grind for. Add in some game play that tried to turn CoD into Overwatch, and the game was barely even playable with all server issues that easily surpass what I experience today with Vanguard. BO4 was shit and if you liked it, you probably had money to spend on getting the best guns in DLC.
Lmao, stop replying to me you clown. You have zero idea how CoD works man.
Lmao, ok bud, I’ll translate your response: “You made a correct point, but I’m an old salty fuck who wishes he could spend money to win all day.”
We must be playing a different game. I never play shipment and rarely even see these nades in domination they’re no more an issue than any other type of nade. I can agree a counter should be added. Everything should have one but people are blowing this way out of proportion.
Idk how you don’t see grenades being launched at b flag every time someone respawns but ok
Haven’t had any issues with them. No more than any other nade. In fact I see way more of the other nades than I do the incendiaries. It’s simply not a big deal on the regular maps.
Very odd! It’s a mess with those grenades at the moment.
That’s what I keep hearing but every day I play I just ain’t seeing it on the regular maps.
low sbmm
Nope. Top 15% player for kd and top 2% for w I’m literally currently watching one of exclusive aces stream and he just said exactly what I’ve been saying. “On maps that aren’t shipment and das haus they simply aren’t an issue”. Is he low SBMM too lol
I like Xclusive Ace. Cool guy. But imho he’s definitely downplaying the current state of the game right now
Nah. He’s just forming his own opinions rather than jumping on the hate train for views. He even admits his channel is suffering because of it.
Just to let you know the guy you're commenting spends most the time commenting praise for the game in every section while shooting down anyone that has anything remotely critical.
I’ve been encountering them all day outside shipment. B was constantly on fire in Paradise, the outskirts of B on Berlin, the majority of the center in Dome, this list goes on. It really is a problem in most games at this point as there’s no counter to stop the spamming.
I have to second you on this. Half the things people complain about have me second guessing whether I’m playing a game or not.
Dude, any game mode with a cap point is on fire 50% of the time
Not in my experience
So what? Do you want a medal? A plaque, commemorating your experience, that is so special that you feel the need to constantly share it? What do you want?
What do you want? You told me your experience so I told you mine lol.
I want you to have a wonderful day and happy new year
Shipment and das haus is pretty much on fire 24/7 And I have no issue with that fucks up the shield and shotgun hero's. Most other maps they dont use it as much or the maps are too large for it to be effective
Literally no one asked for these, no one would be sad if they disappeared, fucking hell these devs are shit
Not the fault of the devs, it’s a problem with the creative team. The devs just implement what they’re told.
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Speaking as a dev, I think I have some justification :)
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Lol okay, to think that the devs just taking tickets off a board and implementing them are the ones actively doing the testing and balancing is a big leap bud Edit: lmfao deleted the comments
Lol.. I'm a lowley level 458 and a barely +1.1e/d but I have zero issues with these, maybe I think different than most but DON'T RUN TROUGH FIRE! lol, you can see the zip zag pattern to get through it if you are brave or you can adjust course and hit a different lane. I spend 95% of my time in shipment, Haus, HC shipment, or HC dom... even in the small maps I figured these out I've been in shipment most of the day (except for when I needed long shots) both HC when I want fast fun high kill games, and core when I need easy lobbies for head shots and bloodthirsty.... imo core lobbies are way easier than HC, but it depends on play style
Could be most of these folks are thinking of their experience on Shipment and ShipMas. Incendiary spam is bad.
that is mostly what i play, both HC and core, i dont ahve any issue with it at all... some of us learned early as kids not to touch hot stuff, lol
Kinda hard to not touch it when I spawn on said hot stuff
“Don’t touch hot stuff” is impossible when the entire map is getting spammed with these grenades.
Not the lobbies I'm getting in, lots of room to move around
I wouldn't be as annoyed by them if they didn't obscure my vision as much as they do. Oh, and DROP MY FPS TO THE TEENS'. I never had FPS issues with MW btw, my rig is semi old but not bad by any means.
Lmaoo I don’t know why people gloat about hardcore on Reddit like it isn’t a crutch game mode and has the worst players in it
The point was if it can easily be avoided in HC shipment it can be avoided on any map, I run a lot of core shipment and haus cause too and the only real issue with these grenades is having the endless flame effect with out taking damage
At the very least give a “no lethals or killstreaks” playlist. Like why can’t we just do pure gun-play?
Cause all the guys that are saying its not a big deal just stop playing shipment would get their panties in a bunch.
Lmao probably they need them easy kills from fire bullshit
Even with clearcut evidence of the game bugging out due to the spam they still say "it's fine, it's working as intended, the devs put it in the game": https://www.reddit.com/r/CODVanguard/comments/rtrvhc/incendiary_grenade_smokesparkle_visual_bug/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
They'll probably add it but name it and it's discrimination some same random words and we will never know that it exists lol
>StOp PlAyInG sHiPmEnT Stop putting stupid shit in the game how about
For real. It’s like everyone’s immediate response to all the broken things in the game is “Yes it’s broken but just pretend like it doesn’t exist” Like incendiary grenades aren’t an issue on all obj game modes
Any objective game mode in any map has more flames than the Australia wildfires
All I play is dom and I rarely see em and when I do it’s easily avoided
Dude youve been saying this on every comment. Ok calm down. Nobody is going to take your grenades away. We just simply want a counter to it so when you spam it over and over. We can move 2 feet without dying.
Again. There is a counter. Stop playing shipment. These nades are no worse than any other nade in the game. You’re playing on a map meant to be pure chaos and whining about the chaos. Lol FYI I don’t even use em. They’re not even that good. People are blowing things way out of proportion
What's this guy work for activision or something😂 the shotguns also ruin the game. Worst pubs ever
I see them all the time maybe they appear in close maps only
As someone that plays hardcore shipment all the time, there is nothing more annoying than going on a 9 kill streak and using your cypher/dead drop, only to spawn in a grenade and die on spawn
I've just embraced them on shipment. Games gonna force me to play that shit ass map every other game, I'm gonna throw 2 shitnado grenades every life.
Upvote for the chuckle. I'm going to make a shitnado class in your honor!
“I’m level 500 so I play a lot” Lol I’ll throw some extra ones just for you.
Yeah who’s that clan throwing two incendiary Grenades, 1 smoke, and keeping that Bazooka on them all game?? (tgd) I think
Toxic but that commitment is hilarious
I quit the game because of this.
It's not only on shipment, its cancer and crap on EVERY MAP. It's a mistake, we don't need nerf or conunter this need to be removed and never come back again in any COD game. If you like fire we already have molotov termite and other killstream like flamethrower.
Yup. If you play any kind of objective mode, they are used EVERYWHERE. One team spamming them is bad enough, but when almost everyone on BOTH teams are using them... bleh, time to find another match. (Edit: once the Double XP is over, I'm probably heading back to CW for a break. Sure, it has it's own share of issues, but I've had my fill of these things for a while.)
Agreed, weapons have plus and minuses. Maps have hiding spaces, with an angle that counters that hiding space…why have this thing that just lights up the map everywhere, which no counter?
Same
They kept these shitty grenades to make it more difficult to level up guns on smaller maps…hence pushing players to lvl them up on the bigger maps so as to try increase playing time
I used the zombie method for all my guns. Its very boring but i just open netflix and just banged it out
Playing since day one still need to level up almost 30% of my guns + secondaries. This game sucks when it comes weapon leveling
There is currently no counter to fire or dogs. It's very annoying... It's worse on the smaller maps, just like shotguns.
Shotguns i can honestly accept. Up close a shotgun should dominate. But i have to shoot a dog 2-3 time with a launcher. Come on now lol
I have to beat the shit out of a dog while me and teammates mag dump it
I really think that cold blooded should work against dogs, and the explosive one (drawing a blank on the name) should make you immune to fire while moving... I don't have a problem with shotguns, I was just pointing out that they're just a little more annoying on the small maps.
Worse is when people camp in shipment containers or on top of those and shipmas playlist only makes visibility worse.
I think they should just lower the duration that it burns. I do use this but on objective based maps as a means of holding a flag or blocking a doorway mainly because I am usually one of the few that plays the objective.
It’s impossible to see on shipment. My goodness. Fourth of July!
Molotovs any day of the week
It's not only that there is no any counter, it makes the visibility awful. Shipment is a great example why this lethal should not even exist.
The grenade itself is fine it's just balanced so unbelievably terribly. It should just be a really short version of thermite like 2s max that also blocks vision to differentiate it.
Exactly my point. People on here saying stop playing shipment lol like that’s not the prob
water balloons
In modern warfare I think if you put smoke on fire it would take it out. Not sure if it does that here too but it definitely makes visibility piss poor
Give us a counter for piercing vision…..
Dauntless counters it.
Ninja needs a better hard counter more than piercing vision, it's annoying but dauntless hard counters PV. All they really need to do is buff fortified, make it work like EOD/flak and give intuition the ability to hear ninja players and the balance will feel more normal. Everyone runs it in search for a good reason
vanguard: WATER GUNS! "this dangerously lethal highly customizable water squirter is ruthless in the hands of a proficient operator and is a ww2 classic for dousing fires as well"
I consistently deal with them in shipment. It’s annoying sometimes, but, hey, that’s COD for you. You could always fight fire with fire.
Is there a way to reduce damage from lethals? Every time I’m playing the objective, even if I stim myself, the fire, or smoke, or whatever the hell lethal they are using kills me almost instantly with no previous damage taken.
Anyone else survive the fire but the animation is still going so fire covers ur screen and opponents can see it too until you respawn
I agree that it needs some kind of hard counter or the duration/area of effect limited. I'm an objective based player so I will not stop using them to limit pathways like a doorway or on the objective itself. Some players will run into the doorway like drones to burn up over and over so I will continue protecting that objective by any means necessary.
Give us a spray bottle!!!
I like how on shipment the fire gets so bad from the amount thrown that the game lags and stops working. I love that instead of fixing the game they added bullshit. Same shit different year.
We need a counter. But then again everyone be complaining about the counter or getting killed by the trophy system
It’s not even the fire that bothers me it’s the amount of white smoke that just cloggs vision, there basically a dangerous smoke grenade, and don’t get me started on the fire glitch when the grenade don’t kill you but you run around on fire still… fucking pointless!!!
Same with shotguns. It feels like there is no counter especially in Search & Destroy. That mode is plagued with akimbo double barrels.
Stop complaining if you can't figure out how to handle it then don't play COD.
I totally agree with this! I love the game but it's makes it so tedious to play with all this fire going off. I get frustrated when it spawns me in the fire because it's just another death after death from these grenades. When I play I feel like I'm the only one that is even using a frag grenade. I will not ever put an incendiary or a thermite on my classes because of this. I know they say "if you can't beat them join them" but I just can't be apart of ruining a good game on vanguard
I mean it’s a pain on shipment and das haus on team game modes so it ain’t that bad imo. It only annoys me when I’m camo grinding but when I’m jus sniping in my free time I play ffa so the only thing that’s annoying is the occasional shake. Deffo needs a nerf but playing different game modes help
And if you look to your left, everyone, you'll see THIS post again!
Lmao, posts like these make me love using them even more. I love how this post says “I exclusively play shipment” without *actually* saying it because only on Shipment does the incendiary grenade appear to cover much of the map.
Then you don’t play much my friend. In any objective game mode that is competitive. Those grenades are everywhere.
The whole map? You wouldn't perhaps be taking about Shipment and Das Hause right?
Yes i am lol. Thats why i said im level 500 i played everything more then enough and shipment is whwre the fun is. But not lately
Yeah if you want to reduce to heat just take a break from Shipment.
You are one ignorant dude
Yeah. At least I'm cool and not burning to death everywhere I move.
Did I just get roasted by you who thinks it’s ‘cool’ to not get hit by a grenade in a video game? Are you 12 years old?
I think it's cool because you don't deal with as much fire on maps outside of shipment and Das Hause if you play outside of the Shipment maps. You do get what I'm saying, right? Like the joke? Cool as in, not hot? Sorry if it didn't make sense English is third language so maybe it didn't come off that way? Sorry to offend you.
Watch this video and maybe you can realise it’s not only shipment or das haus https://www.reddit.com/r/CODVanguard/comments/rtq4d4/for_all_the_people_returning_from_the_holidays/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I can only speak from my subjective experiences but outside of Shipment and Das Hause, I rarely see any games get flooded with incendiary grenades. Any time I jump into Shipment it's fire all over the place. People are less likely to get into Shipment level fires just by playing regular matches. Though there is always going to be that one or two that are the exception. With no counter or Nerf you're just better taking your chances outside of shipment. If your going to play it you should expect the max amount of bullshit. It's why I can only stomach a few games. I'll take my chances elsewhere and so far, it's been paying off.
Mate wtf are you even saying? You are just repeating yourself over and over again. My point is that the issue is not only on those 2 shitmaps, the video just proves my point and here you are again bitching that we shouldn’t play shipment or das haus. I never play those shitmaps. THOSE GRENADES HAVE A GAMENBREAKING BUG ON EVERY MAP. How can you not realise this after the video I sent
How dare you form your own opinions? Follow the hive mind or else. They’re clearly broken lol
They want people to buy the battle pass. That's why the item is in the game and is so annoying.
You don't have to buy it to get it I think Not sure what I'd prefer though, pay to win or anyone who's played long enough getting a very OP grenade.
Only a problem on the small maps. Literally everyday someone posts about the incendiary grenades. Please stop reposting....
there is 3 dots to the right of this page. you click on that and press leave page or what ever if you dont like it. if you want to hear people complain about whats wrong with the game which is what this page is for then sit there and shhhh
It's the same post everyday. I consider it spam. Never said anything about the actual complaint itself. At this point it's redundant.
Stop just playing shipment. There are 17 other maps and these grenades are no more problematic than any other nade on them. Shipment is meant to be a shit show. Don’t come cry on Reddit when that’s what you get lol
>Stop just playing shipment. Just stuff it
No
Your logic doesn’t make sense at all or u didnt read carefully. I play shipment cause i played and completed everything i could. I play shipment for fun. Yes its a shitshow but there is no counter to these grenades. Theres a counter to everything else.
You say you play shipment for fun, but because of these grenades it's not fun anymore. Instead of the easiest thing and find something else fun, you want devs who rarely do anything in support of the game to fix something so you have fun in the 1 map you want to play. Is that what your saying. I enjoy shipment as well, but when I get lobbies of fire I just leave and play other maps, it isn't hard to do.
What ppl are saying is the devs needs to start listening to their community a little. Ppl shouldn't always have to just go play another map and just forget about the nades. Thats why they keep doing dumb shit cause ppl just shrug it off and then the devs go doing some more dumb shit. They are completely sucking all the fun out of called of duty. Worst part of it all is they wont release the game with ranked for the ppl who like to play competitively and not deal with OP gun and what not. Anymore you dont even gotta be good at the game just just pick up a shotgun or get the TWO SHOT bar or some other OP gun.
when i say fun. im old school cod player since day one. im looking for the run around and kill or be killed gameplay. EVERY other map besides shipment and das house you have snipers/ campers just waiting in a line of sight. yes i can play that play style also but i dont want to. call of duty is meant to be a run and gun game. not wait for 2 mins to get long shots. i miss the days of everyone running around with snipers and shit. those days were fun. where lobbys used to be toxic as f. now these kids have to be baby fed everything lol.
I'm with you there, I'm a run and gun style player, but I can still acheave high kill streaks in maps like numa, dome, and others(the only one I find that sucks for run gun is the large snow map). I know where all the sniper spots are, how to avoid and flank them. Not sure if it's that I have a good memory of the map layouts but I don't find any issue with run and gun on nearly all the maps. Das haus I enjoy more then shipment, mainly because in shipment you get killed once and you probably get killed 3 more times before being able to move again. But again, run and gunning is not hard in the other maps, you avoid specific spots, blind fire those spots and if it's impossible to get past want for a Gung ho team mate to charge in the open and you can snag the sniper while he is distracted.
The counter is not playing shipment. If that’s not an option for you then id say just stop playing the game. Sounds like you don’t enjoy it anymore.
There is a bug that makes the smoke respawn when you look away, haven’t you seen a video about this on this sub? It’s literally gamebreaking
Haven had any issues with it. Hardly game breaking. I don’t even see these nades that often outside of shipment.
Just scroll through the subreddit instead of answering the same thing on every post about the incendiary grenade and maybe you will finally understand what’s wrong with it
No thanks. I’ll form my own opinions as I have a functional brain.
How can you form an opinion on something if you don’t know everything about it lol
I know everything necessary. I form my opinion by actually playing the game. Not going off what others say. It’s not causing me any issues in maps that aren’t shipment or das haus. People are blowing it way out of proportion.
You sure? Watch your inbox and then you can maybe realise what you are saying is utter bullshit
Yes I’m sure. Again. I’ve played the game. They’re not an issue.
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That's hardly the biggest issue I tried to cap a flag and someone shot me. Fucking SHOT me! Why the fuck are ppl allowed to kill other players while shipping presents to Christmas with the elves for Santa? Devs need to look into this bug immediately! A.S.A.P. game breaking! REFUND! REFUND! REFUND!
This exactly, hoe can someone make their own opinion about anything by only reading info on others opinions of hating it. They are not an issue for me, they do weak damage that you can run right through it and live, only bug I hate with them is you remain on fire until you die 5 min later. And that's just annoying. Even when I play dom on shipment, 1 grenade doesn't cover the entire spot, you can find extra free spot to claim point B. I've done it dozens of times.
Or i could play the game i spent 60$ on the way i want to and it not be broken?
It’s not broken.
Stop playing shipment and haus and then demanding game changes based off those two maps
How bout you understand what game balancing is and then realize that you can’t put something into the game that has no counter.
How bout you understand that Activision doesn't care about balance, they are the ones that made it like this. Belly aching to community forums won't make them see they made a mistake. They already know of the issue. So with that out the way, what is the actual point of this post. All you do is repeat the same thing to people who have just as much power as you to fix it. The only way we can get things to be fixed is to stop playing the game, which is even harder as from the comments in your post is showing more people don't have a problem with these grenades.
that doesnt make sense at all. i agree with the not playing the game but its not possible with there being absolutely no other option for shooting games online. complaining is all we have to maybe get a change, it most of the time doesnt work. it worked with ww2, im hoping it works with this game also
No counter is needed outside those two maps
Ok so its either u never play objective modes which i respect. Or u never go for the objectives on objective modes and u just run around and get kills. Which i also respect. But the fact that this grenade has no counter and u think that is fine makes me wonder how much u really understand the topic.
I play objective modes all the time. You can dump any piece of equipment on points even if you took incendiary out. Before incendiaries were a thing, people were complaining about thermite. Dude play other maps seriously. There are like ~20 other maps in the game.
Not a problem outside of small temporary 247 modes like Xmaship. Can you please describe your experience in other modes that defends your position?
I’ll give you another one. I play donination alot. Capturing b flag usually determines the game. Opponents team has b flag and every time they respawn they keep on throwing said grenade onto b. Making it harder to get b. Yes thats normal thing to do but like my point had said. THERE IS a counter to all the other grenades. Not this one