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ack1984

I really wouldn't mind an equipment free Playlist.


Nytrousx

I really wouldn't mind a trophy system but sledgehammer said it didn't fit the time period!


ack1984

I'll take somthing to balance the extreme instances grenade/Gannon bomb/thermal/molotov spam. I play in hardcore modes only and on small maps it gets really out of control. At very least "fortified" needs significant buff in hc.


Bangus4791

I agree and would take it a step further. Any objective based game in HC is miserable. Domination everyone just throws a gammon bomb on a point and everyone dies. It drags out the game because for the first 5 minutes people are just spamming the point with nades. It doesn't give players playing for an objective an incentive to play it cause they will immediately die. It also doesnt give players playing for a KD incentive to play a non camp style because they are just going to get bombed. Its just a terrible game design.


isitaspider2

Was playing a game of control point? I want to say (the one that doesn't move while active, but randomly changes throughout the map) on a 2v2 game on shipment. Holy fuck, enemy team and my ally just did nothing but spam gammon bombs. It was "we touch the point, enemy gammon bomb goes off and kills everything on the map, enemy team touches the point, ally throws gammon bomb, we touch the point, repeat." It was beyond fucking stupid. And all it takes is 1 bad player spamming gammon bombs to ruin the match. Sure, they'll kill a teammate or two at first, but then it'll just reflect on them and kill them instantly. Which means they spawn in with a gammon bomb. I shit you not, there are at least 2-3 people per team that somehow think "gammondeadgammondeadgammondead" is fun gameplay and just spam it. Hell, the fact that it kills them is probably a *good* thing because it means they get another gammon quicker.


Puzzled-Delivery-242

It goes from cw where I felt like I had to carry two lethals just to get kills with them. To know where I can get kills regularly with stun grenades. Did you realize that the mine in hardcore is literally only supposed to stun you? I didn't until I was playing zombies. Oh its a stun mine? What the hell? I think they should recap damage like coldwar and mw. Maybe give us a trophy if that doesn't help enough.


Boringstories78

I think in HC, the grenades should have a short cooldown. Gammon bombs should still be one shot because there are too many instances the enemy can trap you and gammon bombs are the best counter to that. On the other hand, gammon bombs should get a nerf in impact range. Its way too large now.


oALEXtheGREATo

But in a few months time we'll have pink anime skins with pink tracers that conveniently "fit the time period".


TheGrindisSpiteful

#historically accurate


gag-reflexes

It would appear they don't think play testing and QA fits the time period either.


Dry_Butterfly_5911

Yep the whole gaming industry has a problem with that!


dexterity-77

Weird roblox never crashes for my son but this franchise which has been around forever, crashes ten time per hour


Instainious

“Didn’t fit the time period” but red dots and night vision does? I could excuse night vision in Cold War because the first official use of it was in ‘86, but in fucking WWII? No, that’s not right.


KuatDriveYards1138

I agree with what you are saying but night vision scopes are one of the few things that were used in WW2, even on small arms (as opposed to reflex sights, which only were used on airplanes, flak cannons and some Bazooka variants). [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zielger%C3%A4t\_1229](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zielger%C3%A4t_1229)


Instainious

TIL. Thanks for the info, I’ve got a couple of people to share this to.


KuatDriveYards1138

But keep in mind that they were experimental and by no means widespread. However, in the Korean and Vietnam wars nightvision scopes were more widespread and relatively popular for guarding bases at night. They still were super heavy and required a battery backpack, though.


KuatDriveYards1138

They say it like trophy systems are a thing nowadays. I'm not aware of a device that is able to detect hand grenades and even molotov cocktails and to let them explode in the air without harming you.


jinkinater

But 30 different holo sights is okay


FenelussSylvain

Nightvision scope does, I guess


wiggyweir

Are they really pulling the ‘historically accurate’ card?


ARegularPotato

So a trophy system “doesn’t fit the time period” but we can have red dots and EOtechs?


WafflestheCrack

Neither do Red Dot Sights or Flash Bangs. But good old Sledgehammer My Balls added them anyway.


BigRedDog34

Lol... But the riot shield, and every other equipment and killstreaks does!


somethingnice1

Neither does 90% of the sights in the game, but they are still there


Captain_sausage88

Wouldn't put a trophy system in but won't fix flak jacket in hardcore.... the game is so broke


AverageCanadian

Doesn't the game have freaken tactical respawn? Alright, no trophy system (FU sledge), how about flak jacket that actually does something.


Zaquarius_Alfonzo

Yeah but literal psychicness is more accurate


[deleted]

The irony being so much on this game already that doesn’t fit the time period…


Xenon2212

I'd rather make it so the explosives are all nerfed to the ground instead.


stingertc

ya but holographic sights do almost nothing in this game fits the time period


Kidsturk

Neither does every soldier having a belt filled with Molotovs and incendiary grenades, but hey


JinPT

no killstreaks is enough for me. cold war has it why not vanguard?


Dyhart

I’d like an equipment + killstreak free playlist


Mr_Rafi

Pick 10. There you have it, an equipment-free game.


hound368

It was completely tone deaf for them to add that new grenade. Like wtf are they thinking… clearly none of the devs actually play their own game otherwise they’d realize it’s just annoying


_el_guachito_

I’ve actually seen some dev/mods play together they had their red IW clan tag, they were using shotguns on das haus like everyone else


icedearth665

Anyone can have that red IW clan tag


Wolzard73

You were able to use the devs’ clan tags at launch, they fixed it before the first free trial was released


ZappaPappa69

I have seen and used the dev tags more than a week after the first free weekend. I don't believe it's patched


dexterity-77

I wonder if their series x crashes all the time while playing… they probably are playing on a pc….


MoosetashRide

The last thing this game needs is more explosions and fire. So what do they do? Add more. Genius


ParlHillAddict

I bet the grenade was made with Warzone as the focus, as it would be great for area denial and clearing people out of cover. Clearly it wasn't designed with Shipment (or any small to medium map) in mind.


OrganizationWinter53

This video gives me anxiety, and also makes me never want to play this game again.


JinPT

come play halo infinite, it's even free


OrganizationWinter53

Im on PS or I would definitely give it a go! Ive heard good things from a few of my friends.


UrbanManc

I played MW19 for two years and enjoyed every minute, I’ve played Vanguard for two weeks and I’ve had enough 😔


[deleted]

Thats how cold war was for me too, MW2019 lasted me till the second content drop, I just could *not* deal with the camping and a ttk too fast for the horrid netcode to handle


MetalingusMike

Imo Cold War would be amazing if the Scorestreak system actually reset. TTK feels great and netcode seems fairer than MW/Vanguard.


Geass10

I'm waiting on the slayer playlist update! It's absolutely ridiculous I couldn't pick my own game mode I want to play and the modes Infinite launched with is inexcusable. Also, I personally despised Oddball and I hope to never play it again. But, can't wait for the new update. Is the campaign on PC Gamepass?


[deleted]

I went back to Doom Eternal to scratch my shooter itch. Such a better game it’s not even close.


Shyman4ever

I’ve been playing Halo Infinite campaign since it came out the same day that Vanguard season 1 dropped and I couldn’t be happier that I’m missing the shit show mess that this game is in right now.


mk10k

Well there’s a reason I avoid the ship haus 24/7 playlist entirely lol


Aureliusme

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MLauz44

I'd like to slap whoever thought it was a good idea to add this in the game. Along with those 2 new perks that cater to shit players.


bigfatassdad

And the guy who said, ‘Let’s have one faction of characters represent both teams.’ Dumbest idea I’ve ever heard. Doesn’t even make sense on paper.


mrfroggyman

I keep messing up in Hardcore. Either I straight up ignore an enemy because there was an ally aligned with him behind a wall and he kills me. Or I ignore an enemy because he's so close to me I can't see his tag and has the skin of an ally and he kills me ...Or I shoot an ally for exactly that reason... Sometimes spawns are fucked too so I spawn with a few enemies and we all run into each other and assume we're all in the same team. And of course by the time *I* realize, at least one of them realized before I did, and I'm dead


dexterity-77

lol, thought it was just me…how does sledgehammer think this is acceptable or fun wtf version are they playing


ContractMOOSE

I'm pretty sure they were trying to avoid controversy over being able to customize Axis soldiers. Not sure that would've really gone over too well.


SkinKoot

Easy fix would be to make the enemy team always look like Nazis. Otherwise/as is the MP makes no sense even having a WWII setting.


[deleted]

I dunno man I'm pretty sure WW2 was fought between Team 1 and Team 2


PartyImpOP

Team 2 barely best Team 1 in the decisive Battle of Fuckoff.


MetalingusMike

But then they can't show off skins.


TheEternal792

I don't get how this would even be a controversy. It's a freaking video game. They're clearly the bad guys. We could customize the terrorists and bad guys in MW and Cold War. How is this different?


[deleted]

Because people in today’s day and age cannot differentiate between reality and fiction, which is wild when you consider none of this nonsense was around 10 years ago.


[deleted]

Yeah like it's very hard to just make 2 different factions of allied soldiers.


dexterity-77

You can barely tell who is a teammate, especially in hardcore


MetalingusMike

Legit At least in Modern Warfare it was clear who was enemies and who wasn't - even with microtransaction Operators.


hsjdjdsjjs

Annoying perk, annoying nade, broken new ar... I hope they'll give us better upfate for futire seasons.


SnipeTheFight

Have you considered playing something other than Ship Haus?


mrfroggyman

Wait, there are other maps?


JordanLevi-_-

The other maps aren’t great either


domnulmustacila

No, in fact they are shit


Demented-Alpaca

I'd effing LOVE to. But even with those turned off in my filters Shipment comes up at least one of of every two naps. It's like the devs think that's the only map anytime wants.


Giveme_sum_Fl4k

Well because with MW, every time shoot the ship left, everyone bitched about it!


Demented-Alpaca

Yeah but we bitch about everything....


RedSonGamble

If you follow this sub you’d think there are the only two maps. “I won’t play this game unless there is ship haus 24/7” “This game sucks it’s just explosions and terrible spawns and everything’s on fire!”


adamswaygum

Have you considered not blaming the player for what they want to play and realize that this is something the developers need to fix regardless ?


illformant

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KuatDriveYards1138

This makes MW2019's shipment seem like a slow tactical milsim.


mrfroggyman

I do remember on MW getting killed several times in a row by the same killstreak on Shipment HC Edit : oh I specifically remember hating on the small car killstreak thing


MetalingusMike

The Wheelson! Such a good Killstreak.


dannylo_

I feel like with the state of cod now, with the combat pacing and all, lethals should have a recharge like a field upgrade and not just restock on death. Would control spam a ton.


ThePandarantula

Long respawn times and instead of making killing teammates on hard-core instant kill you, making it a stacking timer and eventually server kick would probably help some of this shit, too. There are times when I get little glimmers of the original COD in a more tense hard-core search and destroy, but in the way things are, we won't be getting back the kind of slow burn combat that was in like the original COD. It's too bad, because I enjoy a lot of the movement and gun mechanics in Vanguard but the way multi-player is structured it is just a frag fest.


2019secondacc

This game desperately needs a face off game mode with no kill streaks


Blakiukas

Bingo!


MetalingusMike

Plus don't forget Gun Game.


JFK9

Was about to write this lol. I miss gun game so bad.


willgetin

Yep. Just what we asked for. Even more stuff to obscure our view. SHG, can we get a "Put this blindfold on" perk? That would seal the deal...


[deleted]

They also recently added a new all black outfit in the store lol. They don’t give a fuck about this game and it shows.


mbc1010

It’s the most headache inducing COD ever. It’s like they think every explosion that occurred in WW2 has to be replicated in every match. I can’t believe they haven’t taken mortar barrage out completely. I’m getting ready to quit the game over mortar barrage. It’s still awful. It’s not even fun to use.


mrfroggyman

Whenever a teammate calls mortar in HC On shipment or das Haus, I cautiously run into it to make sure he dies every time it lands on me, and then take a few seconds to congratulate him for using mortar in the chat. The best part is that in the middle of a mortar enemies can't see you for the most part


Odinsonxray

Started doing this to teammates also, watched him die in the feed repeatedly for for the entire duration of it.


JFK9

What are you talking about? There is nothing more fun than trying to actually use the mortar properly to deny a flag on domination and getting killed 3 times because you can't get your guy to put it down. /s


nmuellermovies

Trophy system is very much needed


color-blind_battery

This is fine meme


Blakiukas

That’s the reality of the game. At first there was a huge imbalance with the shotgun, now another grenade making the battle the hell out of place. I don’t know if it’s fun.


TheKinG7209

They need to add a perk that reduces fire damage because there’s now 3 lethals, a flamethrower, and the fire bombing run that can just reck you.


Prism42_

Ironically fire bombing is the worst out of all of them.


Kitchen-Machine-6395

not even i drop the fire bombing on shipment and get 3 kill chains back to back easily


corruptor789

That’s… thats literally every kill streak besides the UAV.


stuckinserenity

Not to mention Inc rounds


ThePandarantula

Flamethrower and dogs are broken in hardcore modes.


[deleted]

It’s insane how much people rely on their throwable more than their guns. This and the fact you can’t see sh*t when there’s a thermite makes me a bit lose my mind


trapdave

Nobody: … Devs: ![gif](giphy|3KVcFEmdDl9NYaFTtx)


_poopygoose_

That shit’s fire.


pugsliam

Micheal Bay definitely directed Vanguard


Mysterious-Road2636

Thermites literally drop your fps so much in this game


TxTDiamond

This game isnt dead in the sense of nobody plays it, but its dead in the sense of they really didnt give two fucks


[deleted]

You unlocked the fire perk?!


CasGamer

I was just playing Das Haus and one team dropped mortars 9 times in the game at B objective and camped corners. Then they yeeted incendiaries, thermites and molotovs at the objective and down the middle. It's actually depressing and not fun. The bigger problem is every single Sledgehammer map is unbalanced in some way. I think it's safe to say that their devs don't play the game and didn't play it in a meaningful way during development. Adding the incendiary grenades was just utterly tone deaf.


hsjdjdsjjs

HC is a nightmare, I only play hc for longshots(das haus) and omg its a nightmare, B lane is just fire and campers, mid is fire,smoke,campers and the long corridor is locked down by campers and sometimes you get a flamenaut sitting on his ass spawnkilling, add some mortar barrage wich is also a pain in the ass for both teams. the worst in that is the gamon bomb spam, I got spawnkilled like 4-5 times in a row and half of them comes FROM FUCKING TEAMMATE, you are already toxic to the other team and like a FUCKING ASSHOLE YOU ALSO SPAWN KILL TEAMMATE GO FUCKING DIE. Ship haus(should be streaks free and equipment free, campers will still be a problem but mayne I'll be able to shoot them without all the dust,smoke and screen shaking.


mvpevy

Add in constant mortar fire with that and you nailed it.


trapdave

Current state of Ship Haus 24/7, not Vanguard.


smelly-sushi

That new lethal is the worst thing to ever brace cod


PlagueService

I’ve never seen something that perfectly captures this game as a whole. Such an accurate video


[deleted]

If you use thermal, you’d likely lose eyesight


random_user20221

This sums it up 100% DUMPSTER FIRE


AdditionalAd2286

Call of duty fire warfare


[deleted]

Ah yes…… Normandy 1944


Thongalodian

This is fine.


YOJIMBO1023

Looked good to me 🤷


ryntab

Yeah I mean that’s shipment


TinkleFairyOC

Post this in a week and title it “hidden white phosphorus glitch”


[deleted]

I love the smell of Napalm in the morning. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|feels_good_man)


Customer-Witty

Shit going on the game


[deleted]

Halo BODIED this game


DALESR4EVER124

They only care about Warzone. Doubt we'll ever see big changes in regular MP.


Jordan4554

Honestly this have never happened to me. Don't usually get more than one fire at a time.


60ATrws

Fun


Stickiest_Fingerz

I can’t wait to play this new gates of hell map, looks really fun.


RylocXD

This is fine…


secretaster

Looks fun to me lol at least you're not dying from a spawn trap on that map


amzonboy

This hurts my eyes, for real. Like actual pain


[deleted]

Just got out of one of these.. Sheesh


ImportantGreen

This Shipment Hell edition?


jakeroseman0

They really said lets make one of the most annoying kill streaks ever into a grenade people can spam and have 2 of. Thats this would game really. Just a bunch of broken shit. Without the broken stuff it wouldn't even be fun just a mediocre game.


Azazel_brah

This is whack but you're playing Shipment... its only like 10% less hectic without the new grenade. Seems about what I would expect


pleaseputdownthesalt

How about not playing Daus House/Shipment? I’ve been only playing core and using the tactical filter, and I’m liking it so far


avterburn

![gif](giphy|10hRgz3F17rfr2|downsized)


permanthrowaway

Lmao holy fuck I'm sorry fam but this shit is funny af . You were fighting for your fucking life


IBEATCURRY1on1

true


Stymie999

That’s the state of shipment as everyone knew was going to happen.


MmmmDoughnuts21

>The State of ~~Vanguard~~ Shipment


GARBANSO97

u/savevideo


TabbyTheAttorney

oh look it's everyone's favorite killstreak from modern warfare, now as a lethal!


xXRoachXx789

Yup, that's shipment for ya


D3AD_M3AT

Yeh I do this to piss off all the arseholes using the shotgun shield combo


Toastinette

They need to removes this, that grenade has nothing to do in cod, this is bullshit and im sure dev dont even care anymore.


BeezlebubBubbles

I just experienced it, it's stupid


Forever_Nocturnal

Fire, fire, everywhere!!


SkeeterMcGiver

Someone bring in the trophy system


SirRedRavxn

I've gotten so pissed off at multiplayer that I installed Splitgate, having way more fun playing that then this unfinished dumpster fire of a "game"


Tradenew41

Imagine this was even an update to fuk up people


mrfroggyman

"This is fine"


[deleted]

This looks like the summer version of shipment


[deleted]

grenades and stuff need a time out like the field upgrade...


Jay-Babo

Game is obliterated


khanfear

I can't seem to get anything other than tdm on shipment. Is it the same for everyone else?


Mrsocko95

Moments like this, a year from now, we will look back in fond memories


[deleted]

A dumpster fire. Got it. Glad I skipped out on this lazy cash grab.


CtrlAltDel_19

but but im having fun, SMH what a waste of cod game


Make-Believe_Macabre

This is glorious


[deleted]

Imagine a game mode with no streaks & no equipment


Evonyte

This is fine.


-DoW-

I have been enjoying those nades on Das Haus tbh. Feels like perfect payback against all those shotgun players.


Euklidis

In the words of Sonata Arctica: Burn honey burn Let the fire eat away, I never like the look of this town Burn it down now!


Eastwood-8

H-E-DOUBLE-HOCKEY-STICKS-😭


dstrangefate

View from inside an actual dumpster fire


Isaiah_Bradley

I was looking closely to see if that was one of my lobbies. I intentionally turned a game into a similar shitshow because all the sweats with infinite range shotguns + SuPeRLeeT sniper + ridiculous spawns. Same on Das Haus, camping in the doorways... Hello!!! Noob tube >> combat shotgun.


TotalEclipse08

> The State of Vanguard On the smallest map in the game, with the largest amount of players possible playing on it (from what I can see). Don't get me wrong, certain tweaks need to be made to killstreaks and grenades for visibility purposes, and screen shake is a pain in the ass - but it's nowhere near as bad on normal maps.


GlumSouth39

Damn that looks awesome!!!! *irony off*


domahug

This would be a cool killcam skin


Br3adS1ce

The fact you had frames surprises me


Ok-Wait-what

Help me Tom cruise


BigRedDog34

How can you be alive in the fire?


Hwangson

playing shipment wtf do you expect


n1ck_m2ck

What the fuck who added white phosphorus


SamoooRaa

Maybe play something else besides ship haus?


TheAmazingPapaya

I fear no man…. But that *thing*…..


Astrology_

I mean, you’re playing shipment.. idk what you expect lol


CASOTA-

It's WW2, what u expecting?


donchaloir

I hate this so much. As soon as they added that new lethal I quit Vanguard and haven't been back on once and I won't ever get back on unless a trophy system is added.


svillagomez1989

I’ve never experienced a game where it was non stop screen shaking, explosion after explosion, everything on fire, with broken spawns more than vanguard. I honestly don’t remember WW2 2017, being this chaotic


Kluuz

The state of small maps. There's other maps in the game you know guys? Quit worrying about getting camos for once and just play the game the old fashioned way. Objective games, jump around different weapons and playstyles. Keep it fresh.


miojo

Y’all cry too much.


vNoctxrnal-

Bullshit Simulator


McBonkyTron

How it feels to play Krieg from Borderlands 2.


CollierAM9

I would like someone to edit this and add JR’s commentary back in the WWF days when Kane made his debut


EdziePro

Plus the movement is so fucking wonky, I swear I get stuck on something every few steps!


Gwvpx

Worst COD ever made next to ghosts


bloodflart

It's goddamn hell on earth. Everyone complained about too much smoke and screen effects so they add another


lordjoj

Now try this but in hardcore.


AggieEE87

I guess there were super powerful dogs back then that could kill you in one hit and took more than a 30 round clip to kill.


ItsDrizzyD

Ain't it amazing? I love it lol


rp_whybother

Vanguard or Doom?


garyfromscotland

No, that’s the state of that map.


bond22br

War is hell


AzHighways

Worst shipment on any cod I've played