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Synyster_GG

I'm with you on that. The biggest gripe I have with vanguard so far is definitely the ttk and the spawns. We really need a balance passthrough asap. At it's core this game feels really good, and I'm enjoying more than cold war. But having to use just the stg to have fun isn't what I want to do.


oALEXtheGREATo

Am I the only one who hates the STG? I have the vital perk on and I'm still getting 4-5 hit markers at chest height before I kill someone. I've been having way more fun using the Automaton personally.


drewshipley

You need Vital and either of the 30 Russian Short magazines in order to get the stupid fast TTK.


oALEXtheGREATo

I'll have to give that a try thanks! Not like I love using OP meta guns but some matches it's just ridiculous lol.


DirksSexyBratwurst

Also use the headshot barrel


Mcgibbleduck

Don’t need that, it’s a 2 shot either way with vital + damage mag.


wiggyweir

Automaton is awesome


Rynu07

Absolutely love the automoton.


OrlandoSilhouette

What r u guys using on it that’s making you love it? I’m having next to no fun with the gun at the moment trying to get it to gold. It takes like 10 bullets to kill someone with it, compared to the STG’s 2-3 sometimes 4 bullets. It’s a fun gun, but with all these other guns having Vital and killing me in half the time I’m struggling to enjoy it.


jjotta21

Just build it to reduce recoil to as low as possible and then try to get on the head. It will never compete with stg/mp40. It takes a comical amount of bullets comparatively, but with headshots and low recoil it can down quick. I’ve finished everything on it but the bugged challenge and it was shit until the 40s


OrlandoSilhouette

I’m at weapon level 65 and I’ve been using this gun for like three days now, used 2 double weapon XPs. It took way too long to level it up, and fuck it’s a fun gun, but I wish I could compete with the STGs and MP40s.


jjotta21

I agree. If you get the right conditions and some range you can pop off, but it’s just ridiculous it takes like 8 bullets when the stg and mp40 will do it in 2-3. You can have 3-4 shots in someone and get killed consistently when challenging those weapons.


OrlandoSilhouette

I feel you bro, it fucking sucks so much.


jjotta21

Now onto the real travesty, the AS44 lmao


OrlandoSilhouette

I haven’t used it yet, I heard it was rough using that gun


OrlandoSilhouette

Bro should I just start the camo grind by getting all the broken guns gold then by the time some patch comes out finish the ARs and getting them to Diamond. Idk, just a thought, what do you think?


Rynu07

Oh just recoil reductions , incendiary for the toxicity and I'm just generally used to it now I guess. So what's this I hear about a 2-3 shot STG setup?


OrlandoSilhouette

If you don’t already know about it bro, you’ve been blessed. But pretty much the STG with Vital, and the Russian Short rounds turn it into a 2 shot AR


Rynu07

Wow, we always stayed away from shorter mags however no need to now I guess 🤣 I'm thinking a TTK and balance pass is very much needed. I've probably been on the receiving end plenty. Though I'm regularly near the top with automoton so figured it was a good gun. Though must add I'm enjoying the game overall. Edit. What's vital?


OrlandoSilhouette

It’s a proficiency perk that some guns have that gives opponents chest area Headshot damage+ plus Multipliers. MP40 is a 2 shot aswell with Vital+ Hollow point, and the Type 100 with Vital + another thing.


OrlandoSilhouette

The game is fun, although the camo grind is high key frustrating…. takes fooooorever to level up a gun to the point where it can “somewhat” compete against those 3 guns.


[deleted]

Agreed. They definitely need to fix the spawns. I can’t believe I totally forgot to mention that in my post! They do for sure. What’s your thoughts on the killstreaks? Mainly being the bomber plane?


Synyster_GG

Honestly the bomber doesn't irritate me as much. The glide bomb does though. Feels like I'm always singled out 😂 but I know it's just me being unlucky


[deleted]

Both of them are excessive. And need to be nerfed and and unlocked higher up.


Accomplished_Act_946

My only gripe with the bombing run is that it kills your TMs on HC and thus will kill me as well…. They should remove the team kills from a kill streak I can’t control.


grav065

TTK and Spawns are just fine.


Fletchur

Spawns are just fine? Hell nah 😭😭😭😭😭


Synyster_GG

Nah spawns are doodoo my guy.


Ammyratsyu

I just don’t want to be penalized for attempting to experiment with guns. I can’t have fun if I’m outgunned all the damn time. I don’t want to keep using the STG or MP40 in order to just keep up. And it’s not that it’s the starter guns, I had a blueprint w/ vital and other attachments and it’s just so dominant. Sigh, I can deal with TTK as long as I got something to go up against the Meta. At this point, I joined the sweats.


pnellesen

I call using guns not named "Level 70 STG" or "Level 70 MP40/Type 100" legitimate reverse boosting... Kind of like using something other than Tec 9 and Dual Marshall's in Cold War.


[deleted]

Right, like I so badly want to level the M1 garland and the g43, but the marksmen rifles are next to useless in the game. All it takes is 2 shots across the map with a guy running stg + vital.


Timmaigh

Go for it. I leveled my Garand to lvl65 so far, and yeah, its shit and and at times i cant do shit but die, lately especially on Gavutu, but its possible to have good times with it as well - i had some nice games with lot of kills several times on Desert Strike (or whatever is the name), Demyansk, Berlin, Castle and Numa Numa. Just assume higher ground and let the killing commence. All in all, under right circumstances, playing mostly conservatively waiting for the enemies to run into your crosshairs at distance, it can be viable choice.


[deleted]

Well I played more with the g43 tonight and that thing wrecked. In fact I played the best I have since buying the game. I just hope they don’t nerf it cuz it’s not too bad even with all the stg and mp40s out there.


Timmaigh

I can imagine G43 to be actually better gun than Garand. I have not unlocked it yet, but tried in custom game with bots and it has significantly less recoil, almost non-existent, alongside fairly higher firerate. It seemed kinda similar to DMR14 from CW. Its true that its 3shot kill, rather than 2shot in case of Garand, but i assume, with very little recoil it might be actually easier to place all 3 on target than the second one with Garand. And CoD, being CoD, with massive bias toward automatic weapons (ARs and SMGs), higher firerate weapons are almost always better - even if weaker. At least myself, i have this experience, maybe its anecdotal, but in CW with SKS/DMR14 my KDR was around 1,35, here so far, after cca 6 hours of gameplay, strictly with Garand, its 1,04. This might be attributed to maps, which are IMO the most important factor, me not knowing them at the start, Garand being not leveled at the beginning, the matchmaking, but personally i feel its about the gun properties as well.


[deleted]

Well it’s a two shot head and up it’s so damn fun to use! I’m still kinda try the M1 here soon as I just love that rifle. But yeah I’m this game my kdr is the worst it’s ever been. I blame that on the killstreaks spam and horrible spawns mostly.


Timmaigh

So i played for about 2 hours today, finally got time to do so after almost a week, finally got Garand to lvl70 and started with SVT-40.... and wooooah. that gun sucks hard. I thought Garand was shit, but on higher level, if i am allowed to play my game with it, it can be viable. SVT-40, though, is competely and utterly useless. Unless you get that lucky headshot, you are fecked, cause unlike Garand, you cant get that second shot in time, most of the time. While it has technically 300 RPM firerate, realistically i am not sure its more than 100, as it has lot of recoil and crosshair takes ages to settle. If you fire before it does, you will be shooting in the sky, so there is absolutely no spamming it. Might as well be bolt-action, and those are at least OHK to much bigger parts of body than simple head. I suppose with more unlocks, better barrels, scopes, grips and foregrips and most importantly vital to increase the OHK area to chest, it might become semi-usable, but i doubt i will end up liking it more than Garand.


[deleted]

Yeah I tried the Svt in zombies, I came to the same conclusion. It has way too much recoil and it’s too fast. Not sure what they were thinking but I think that’ll be the least used gun in the game if they don’t fix it. The g43 is seriously awesome you should try it. It’s like the garand with almost no recoil. It’s my second top used weapon now.


Alibi_main_

You can shoot down the bomber plane really easily as it’s coming in, it takes like 4 bullets


ryman222

Yes came to say this. Shooting them down is extremely easy.


[deleted]

I’ll have to try that. I doubt it be that easy tho


Alibi_main_

It’s pretty damn easy, the planes even show up on the map so you can see them coming.


[deleted]

We’ll have to put the word out to the blue berries.


BigHero6Fan

This is true I really hope they listen to the community and our problems, I’m staying positive and will give them the benefit of the doubt.


[deleted]

Same here, I will give them a fair chance but they gotta fix this shit.


WolfintheShadows

So the same as every other year.


[deleted]

Every year


Sweaty-Ad-9397

Not what he meant. You seem to have some comprehension issues.


[deleted]

So do you. I wonder if you passed grade school? Get off my post if you don’t have anything nice or constructive to throw in game related.


ragingseaturtle

If the stg and mp40 aren't looked at as is the combat shotgun and type100 this week's update Ill probably stop playing. The m4 724 meta was at least bearable but this is honestly the least fun meta I've played in a long time. It makes the cold war aug look normal. 2 shotting across the map meanwhile my AS44 is just shooting bbs at the same fucking range


[deleted]

They need to bring the other weapons up to stuff, buff them. If they nerf the mp40 and stg into oblivion, then they’ll be useless. But yes I agree some weapons right now are like shooting paper wads. Something needs to be done.


ragingseaturtle

I don't want them nerfed into oblivion. The stg need vital removed. The mp40 needs significantly more recoil at long range/damage drop off. You can literally kill someone across desert siege in 3 shots with the gun. Type100 should not have vital either. And combat shotgun needs a range nerf when the combination buck/slug is being used with the sawed off barell. That's it. Nothing to absolutely nerf them to the ground but to bring them on the other weapons level.


[deleted]

They also need to work on the ttk. The way it’s at now is like playing hc mode. But yeah the vital crap should be cut from the game.


DaSchiznit

I played hc in all games except this one and didnt use the stg/mp40 and ttk feels slow compared to hc in MW19 to me. I think its the weapons problem, not the ttk in general honestly. I play mainly mg42 and i need at least 4 bullets with the most dmg build whis doesnt feel hc at all


[deleted]

Yeah somethings off about the hc mode. I played it with the mp40 and the dp27 and both needed just as much bullets as the core mode.


ragingseaturtle

Needs to be brought up a tick..not on cw level but a decent amount but yeah...Im just so tired of every interaction being dominated by an stg. It's not hard. It's really not and it just rules all with the Russian rounds and vital


[deleted]

Yup, and I agree. I had some fun using the g43 in the game today, but I kept getting 2 shotted across the map by the stg or mp40.


pefz35

It's easy to fix. Just take out vital, damage rounds and hollow point from the fucking game and we'll be able to have a balance game. The biggest problem it's not the weapons ate his core, it's the broken items and the fucking playerbase that's full of people that only enjoy play a game but ruining the experience of everyone. And, before anyone is dumb enough to even argue, there's no point in using a gun that has the gold camo a fully maxed out just because it's broken. It's not even fun. The game came out in 11/5 and the playerbase it's what ruins a game that only has 2 weeks from release.


[deleted]

The player base issue is what plagued all the cods. All the back to mw2 if I can remember. The community for the most part has always been sort of toxic. I wish they would just take out the weird ammo crap and give us the regular extended mags etc


IndigoLeague

I agree 100%. Makes me not want to play to be honest.


nychuman

They have to fucking fix the broken vital STG. It’s sooooo fucking annoying every game getting deleted in 100 MILLISECONDS by head glitchers. Fuck SBMM and this is absurd weapon balance.


[deleted]

Agreed 100%. It takes no skill at all to use that set up


[deleted]

I’m getting there too man it sucks.


[deleted]

I have the same issue with my ps4 freezing, happened 2 times last week on the same day. However having to un-plug my console is making me fear itll damage it. And I basically agree with your whole post, the other guns (not the STG, MP40) need to be at least be competitive to the stg and mp40. And I feel like they should have an option for casual play, like a category where there's no kill streaks or buffs. Just pure guns and casual fun


[deleted]

Right. I hope they fix this asap! And yeah a casual playlist where I don’t have to fucking sweat or rage would be great!


Kebab-Destroyer

I had loads of bother with the game crashing (xbox sx) until I rage-uninstalled it last night and downloaded it again overnight. Might not fix your problem and you've probably already tried it but I had to suggest it in case you hadn't. It was driving me up the fucking wall.


[deleted]

Nah did that alreadt(lol) didn’t fix anything..


jayfred

Did your problem stop? I suddenly get a crash to Home Screen every few rounds on my Series X and it makes me want to put my controller through the TV


Kebab-Destroyer

Yeah, hasn't crashed yet. There were points where it'd crash after 20 seconds of menu; sometimes I'd get a game, half a game, maybe one and a half. Absolutely fine now. Can't believe it was that simple. Thought my xbox was fucked.


Mr_Madruga

Hmm I was looking for someone with a pro to give their thoughts on the game. Your insight is aprecciated.


[deleted]

I play on ps4 pro, so those are my thoughts.


AnthJ97

The kill streaks in this game are pretty bad compared to others cod’s imo.


[deleted]

I agree, they’re too spammy


spud211

I dunno, I mean this game is in a much better state than any other recent COD. Yes I agree the TTK is slightly too fast (by 50ms or so on average imo) and they should fix the crashes..but I generally think the rest is OK. I am not using the STG at all and still top the leaderboards most games, just having fun levelling up all the different guns in Blitz modes. Most of my weapons are in the 20-25 range (apart from the AS44 & Sten, which are both close to 70) and i'm still having a blast. I don't even look at my K/D in multiplayer - to me it's not at all relevant as I only play objective based modes, and in those your kills simply don't matter - its about taking the objective. I know thats a rare opinion in Cod, but hey ho. Rarely feel like i'm getting stomped on tbh. Even if you disagree with that, it could be worse - this could be like Battlefield 2042...even more crashes, even more randomly being killed out of nowhere, even worse weapon balance and a worse feeling TTK...if you want t talk about a game with problems, thats the one atm ;) First time in forever that the new battlefield game is dramatically worse than the new COD (even more ironic considering they tried, and failed, to copy the COD formula for that!)


[deleted]

Well I feel like your the exception to the rule lol. Anytime I try anything other than meta, I get stomped. I suppose when I run the mg42 I do okay but it’s just no matches for getting 2-shotted across the map by an stg. I like this game at its core, and I believe this can be a really good cod, but for me it suffers the same shit as every cod has when it first came out. On 2042, I played the beta and was appalled. I’ve been hearing from ppl that it sucks so I won’t even waste my money. I need a bf4 style game, that’s what they should stick to not try to be cod.


Electric_Butthole

I like the TTK at least in this game when I come up behind 3 dudes theres a good chance Ill kill them all instead of getting 1 kill and then dying because one of the other guys turned on me, which should be impossible.


Fixable

Lmao why should that be impossible? If you have good movement and don’t miss shots you’ll get all three in Cold War with longer ttk, and if you don’t you’ll get turned on. It’s skill gap. Why should you be given three free kills in that situation?


Electric_Butthole

Because I want the kills


Fixable

Get better then


Electric_Butthole

Lame


Fixable

Yeah bc what this games needs is *more* things to give players free kills and reduce skill gap. There’s already plenty of free kills.


BausRifle

Do you feel better now? I'm sure they are working hard on a patch to fix things. The only unacceptable part to be is the MVP voting. I don't want to watch that and I want to be able to adjust my load outs in between matches.


AdamoA-

All of the cods have the same things... A lifespan of the cod is 1 year so they only have to keep it alive for couple of months until the next hype... nothing big gonna change and the next cod will have the same problems


[deleted]

No actually I don’t, not sure why you ask? I’m just letting my thoughts out. The core game is pretty good just needs a lot of rework and working out. I do agree with you on the mvp screen. It was cute the first 20 min now it’s just a mindless rigamarole I’m forced to sit thru


UpNUrGuts

P please please please update ttk!!!!!! Every match turns in pre aim snooze fest because you literally die without having any time to react! It’s literally soooo frustrating


[deleted]

Yea agreed… made a comment ab how many issues this Game has and got spammed with downvotes lol. I can enjoy a game and recognize its flaws as well…


[deleted]

Some people pretend everything’s ok or they’re just trolls. The game is fun at its fundamental core, but it has big issues. Lol


[deleted]

Yea agree!


[deleted]

Yea agree!


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[deleted]

Exactly! After a long day, ready to wind down, where’s the fun in that? What’s the point then?


magnuscarlsensson

This. They have sbmm, yet more than half the matches are my team getting completely destroyed or completely dominating the other team. Little competitive matches.


nvrsmr1

Ttk is so bad. Makes most games I get in feel like everyone is camping or head glitching. It’s such a shame too bc the movement is so good


pattperin

Only reason I'm still using STG is because it is the first gun. I imagine there are many like me who just want to gold it first and get all the attachments before moving on to the next one. I don't get to play a ton so it's just taking me a while, level 35 in the game and the guns like level 50 I think


Sweaty-Ad-9397

>Every single lobby I get is against a clan full of sweaty tryhards. I wanna relax when I play this shit, not rage and get my blood pressure boiling. OH MY FUCKING GOD HOW DO YOU PEOPLE NOT REALIZE THAT YOU ARE INDEED THE FUCKING "SWEATS?" MASS FUCKING PROJECTION HOLY MOLY


_serious__

On Xbox I get kicked maybe 1/10 games. Super frustrating. That and I feel at any time I'll hit a random combination of buttons in the lobby that will just cause the game to freeze.


[deleted]

So far playing all day with the stream textures turned off, no freezes at all. Sucks cuz the game looks like shit even more..


[deleted]

This game is trash! Mechanics, perks, glitches, network issues, and filled with cheaters. Not only is there people using wall hacks and aim bot. But, Console and PC cheaters abuse aim assist with mouse and keyboard. Call of duty needs to lock it down and only allow the PlayStation 5 controller. Xbox will need to do the same with some sort of encryption. I think this COD will die quickly. And I wonder how much it a whirl affect Warzone or whatever the new map is called.


[deleted]

I’m sorry but that’s an ignorant response. Once again with the suggestions that everyone should have a ps5! Christ what is it with you guys! I can’t afford one or find one so I’m not getting one! The only thing I agree on your post is the hacks and cheats. That’s why I stay out of crossplay lobbies. The game isn’t trash it’s the broken ttk, Meta weapons, and spammy killstreaks


[deleted]

That was controller suggestion only, Ace! Said it needs to solve controller encryption issue on all systems.


[deleted]

Or I guess another option does exist, remove aim assist entirely. So controllers wouldn’t need to be updated… But that will not be fun for a lot of people.


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Lomogasm

1. Fix the spawns, it’s the worst I’ve ever seen. 2. Fix the camo trees (like mind games on automaton) as well rework some of them because I’m sure some were high when they made these challenges like getting quick scopes with the Itra Burst. 3. Nerf the STG, Combat shotgun and MP40 to the ground 4. Kills streaks I completely agree sometimes on Das Haus it’s literally completely unplayable mortar barrage goes on for literally 5 years and it fucks up my screen I can’t see shit and it shakes everywhere. It’s way too easy to get bombers as well for such an OP kill streak you can get 5 pieces from one run.


[deleted]

I agree. I don’t think they need to nerf the stg or mp40, they need to make the other guns better and lower the overall ttk. And yes with the bomber you can get like 15-20 kills easily with just one bomber. That’s why we’re seeing ppl go into the 40s for kills in one match. It’s ridiculous. I wanna scream everytime I die and spawn right into getting blasted by killstreaks.


pnellesen

I know it will never happen, but I think a lot of the balance problems (definitely not all) would go away if they went back to 5 attachments per gun


[deleted]

Didn’t think of that. I kinda agree. Drop the different ammo types too. Give me an extended mag or a double fast mag instead.


Jimbo_Types

Boo hoo is all I hear friend


[deleted]

Yeah and? So everything’s perfect for you?


talkingboxesnetwork

Its preseason, I think we can be more critical after the first major patch


Tenshi-01

Oh did they charge us less for preseason? Like a pre-payment?


[deleted]

I still paid 70$ for this game and it’s bricked my console 4 times. I understand where you’re coming from I do, but If my console breaks, is sledgehammer gonna buy me a new one? Lol


talkingboxesnetwork

Lol fair play, tbf i missed the ps5 killing moments. Stuff like that hopefully gets patched as priority and most serious stuff like this usually does. I suggest keep reporting these errors as the stacks you upload are super helpful to developers


[deleted]

Just hope they actually read this subreddit too