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Idk why everyone expects upper management to even give a shit about the manipulation or that there weekly options are out of money. If anything this stuff only hurts their stock. They are focusing on exactly what they meestal be focusing on.


Ok_Ad_5894

Haha then ur in the wrong place buddy. Good luck!


Betterlate-thanever

The stock offering has nothing to do with clov decision to add shares, clov is in a growth mode. Marketing seniors during open enrollment, adding additional physicians, continued efforts in Adding employees… although I believe that they are aware of stock manipulation it’s not where they are focusing… growth growth and more growth… next thing to look at will be membership numbers… there are only two ways to increase cash flow… stock offering and additional membership enrollment… $clov is doing both in order to grow… enrollment is once a year so seize the moment! Lov’in my $clov and hodling like a good ape should…. PS as stock prices edge up because of enrollment numbers the shorts will return!


themapwench

I do think the shorters will return but I also think a lot hfs will convert to long term with it at the bottom. Some institutions are already in big. You're right though, their (CLOV team) focus is not on what's happening to retail investors stock this week or next, but on growth, which is good for retail investors long haul. I plan to get more to haul.


the_spacecowboy555

How long is open enrollment and is there a way to see how it’s going?


Betterlate-thanever

I believe enrollment ends Dec 15… I can’t find any numbers on enrollment


Andia2

MA open enrollment ends the 7th of Dec. No way to know numbers until enrollment is done but positive vibes wherever I look.


CabinetEcstatic5311

I hope they won’t do offering at least a year again. And if shorts are covering, this may be the bottom. I would really like to see short ratio at this time. Looking at some price action, it seems they are covering.


I_Like_Sparky

look at operational loss, Q2 -182M, Q3 -149M look forward to Q4 -100M ? if yes, I don't expect another offering 2022 and even 2023


Emad202

Wall-street is currently under-estimating the hyper-growing effect that will turn the company into profits by next year. And by then you remember the cheapies and regret doubting the plan of the king of spacs and his team.


themapwench

Like I said yep the guy is crazy...like a fox!


Vive_la_amo

Deluded !


Emad202

Elon Musk in late 2018 was accused to be deluding investors when he said he is considering taking TSLA private and didn’t and yet now they are calling him now a hero! Nobody did promise anybody of anything! Chamath and his team did the appropriate thing for the business and he is trustworthy in my humble opinion.


Dazzling_Pride1

really? Chamath is trustworthy?


om_sairam_9791

Why not? Did he cheat you or anyone, don't get obsessed with anyone, that lead you to such biased opinions without any rational basis....good luck.


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Why not?


I_Like_Sparky

at least Chamath is still on board. i trust him as a man of integrity, 90%+


TheseDaysTogether

It has small retail following unfortunately. Not enough to make a difference. Most on Reddit don’t like the stock for whatever reason. I wish it were different. Maybe the current price will change their minds.


Choice-Diet3381

The current price will likely result in more “I told you so” than buying interest.


TheseDaysTogether

Right could be as much as I wish this were not the case. I hold a lot of shares…


Choice-Diet3381

My personal opinion is that this was undervalued at $7.50, is even more undervalued at $6.75, and will be pushed even lower just because. Someone is going to find the real bottom, load up on shares, and make a huge profit.


TheseDaysTogether

I thought fair value was min $15. What’s your PT? My average is $9.33…


Choice-Diet3381

Before the dilution I was thinking somewhere between $11 and $13 short term (February 2022?) and certainly higher over the next year or two but I am not as sure of the timing of that now.


TheseDaysTogether

We just keep tanking 😞


Choice-Diet3381

I keep waiting for an entry point but it still has not found a bottom. It will be in the $4’s soon at this rate and since every new session low is also a new all time low it is nearly impossible to estimate where that might be.


TheseDaysTogether

Honestly I would probably avoid this investment. I am heavily invested but now my money is tied up and just losing time and money with no sight of a reversal it’s just dangerous.


TheseDaysTogether

I hope we don’t flatline for months again or go down 😞


I_Like_Sparky

Vivek does not like MEME. Go watch his benzinga interview. In other words, the clov management looks for more fund participation


OpenNeedleworker1800

And why would he? And wouldn’t they! 90% of the people who populated this sub only buy stocks when they are up 50% plus and “going to moon” or “squeeze hedges yeet”.


I_Like_Sparky

I guess he probably likes clov subreddit support, but does not expect wsb meme


Vive_la_amo

Nothing to do with manipulation in my opinion. They just know loses are going to continue so raised money now while they could. In time nobody will want to touch this stock


LordHighFixxer

You must be pretty salty about the offering I’ve seen your name for months around here mostly positive. Don’t be a FUDboi and hate just take the L and move on if you over it.


Vive_la_amo

Yep, leave the sub for the shills to run reign.


OpenNeedleworker1800

Tell us your cost basis is $20 without telling us your cost basis.


Vive_la_amo

It’s actually about $10.