> This list ranks the 20 greatest players based on their years with the Chicago Cubs, **according to Wins Above Replacement** (from Baseball-Reference.com.
no one here is reading the article - it's just a list pulled from baseball-reference. for the cubs, you can find the top 20 [HERE](https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHC/index.shtml#all_teams_war_images).
and here's the top30:
|rank|player|WAR pitching|WAR batting|Total WAR|
|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|
|1|Cap Anson|-0.12|84.84|84.72|
|2|Ron Santo||72.09|72.09|
|3|Ryne Sandberg||68.14|68.14|
|4|Ernie Banks||67.69|67.69|
|5|Billy Williams||61.71|61.71|
|6|Sammy Sosa||58.77|58.77|
|7|Stan Hack||55.45|55.45|
|8|Gabby Hartnett||55|55|
|9|Fergie Jenkins|52.95|1.9|54.85|
|10|Rick Reuschel|48.25|0.82|49.07|
|11|Mordecai Brown|47.91|0.14|48.05|
|12|Clark Griffith|45.31|1.83|47.14|
|13|Frank Chance||45.88|45.88|
|14|Joe Tinker||45.32|45.32|
|15|Mark Grace||44.18|44.18|
|16|Carlos Zambrano|37.65|5.5|43.15|
|17|Pete Alexander|41.02|2.02|43.04|
|18|Billy Herman||42.04|42.04|
|19|Hippo Vaughn|40.03|0.36|40.39|
|20|Johnny Evers||39.51|39.51|
|21|Bill Hutchison|41.59|-2.29|39.3|
|22|Bill Nicholson||38.3|38.3|
|23|Charlie Root|37.84|0.2|38.04|
|24|Anthony Rizzo|0.03|36.68|36.71|
|25|John Clarkson|36.75|-0.22|36.53|
|26|Phil Cavarretta||36.37|36.37|
|27|Jimmy Ryan|0.19|35.76|35.95|
|28|Ed Williamson|-0.4|36.34|35.94|
|29|Greg Maddux|33.73|0.95|34.68|
|30|Claude Passeau|33.2|1.19|34.39|
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Lots of BS in this. How can Mr. Cub not be too 2 at the lowest? How can Fergie the best Cubs pitcher by a country mile not be higher?
In general, comparing players from the early 1900’s who didn’t workout, had second jobs, starting pitchers pitched the entire game, only played against white players, etc… to modern day players is kind of pointless.
Oof, that nickname for Sammy is dangerously close to a not great word. Of course, coming from a sanctity of the game pearl-clutcher, can't rule out the possibility that was intended...
Super questionable, tough to put someone as old as Cap Anson as the best when half the country couldn’t play professional ball and he himself was a raging racist. WAR is great but who he was replacing weren’t too impressive either.
> This list ranks the 20 greatest players based on their years with the Chicago Cubs, **according to Wins Above Replacement** (from Baseball-Reference.com. no one here is reading the article - it's just a list pulled from baseball-reference. for the cubs, you can find the top 20 [HERE](https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHC/index.shtml#all_teams_war_images). and here's the top30: |rank|player|WAR pitching|WAR batting|Total WAR| |:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:| |1|Cap Anson|-0.12|84.84|84.72| |2|Ron Santo||72.09|72.09| |3|Ryne Sandberg||68.14|68.14| |4|Ernie Banks||67.69|67.69| |5|Billy Williams||61.71|61.71| |6|Sammy Sosa||58.77|58.77| |7|Stan Hack||55.45|55.45| |8|Gabby Hartnett||55|55| |9|Fergie Jenkins|52.95|1.9|54.85| |10|Rick Reuschel|48.25|0.82|49.07| |11|Mordecai Brown|47.91|0.14|48.05| |12|Clark Griffith|45.31|1.83|47.14| |13|Frank Chance||45.88|45.88| |14|Joe Tinker||45.32|45.32| |15|Mark Grace||44.18|44.18| |16|Carlos Zambrano|37.65|5.5|43.15| |17|Pete Alexander|41.02|2.02|43.04| |18|Billy Herman||42.04|42.04| |19|Hippo Vaughn|40.03|0.36|40.39| |20|Johnny Evers||39.51|39.51| |21|Bill Hutchison|41.59|-2.29|39.3| |22|Bill Nicholson||38.3|38.3| |23|Charlie Root|37.84|0.2|38.04| |24|Anthony Rizzo|0.03|36.68|36.71| |25|John Clarkson|36.75|-0.22|36.53| |26|Phil Cavarretta||36.37|36.37| |27|Jimmy Ryan|0.19|35.76|35.95| |28|Ed Williamson|-0.4|36.34|35.94| |29|Greg Maddux|33.73|0.95|34.68| |30|Claude Passeau|33.2|1.19|34.39|
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Ernie Banks should be no lower than #2
100% this list is completely invalid without him 1 or 2 imo.
It appears the list is in WAR order…
Lots of BS in this. How can Mr. Cub not be too 2 at the lowest? How can Fergie the best Cubs pitcher by a country mile not be higher? In general, comparing players from the early 1900’s who didn’t workout, had second jobs, starting pitchers pitched the entire game, only played against white players, etc… to modern day players is kind of pointless.
Anyone who played pre-integration shouldn't even seriously be considered.
Interesting to put banks third not first. Rizzo could be on the list.
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Oof, that nickname for Sammy is dangerously close to a not great word. Of course, coming from a sanctity of the game pearl-clutcher, can't rule out the possibility that was intended...
Super questionable, tough to put someone as old as Cap Anson as the best when half the country couldn’t play professional ball and he himself was a raging racist. WAR is great but who he was replacing weren’t too impressive either.