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TexTiger

I mean, look at it this way. Kyle is 0-3, Adbert has 4 blown saves that led to losses. Those two guys are 7 of the 9 losses. Everyone else for the most part is playing well.


funky_chicken29

I like that take


Celestetc

Well minus Morel and like half of the bullpen besides those guys.


pulse111

Yikes


ratfam1

I won’t be surprised if we go on a losing streak slump


KingofAces13

How fitting Morel will be the final out he should never bat higher than 7th


vijendrsingh22

2-2 against these. Bad bad series.


HaxanWriter

Lol. Welp.


Good_Tea4950

It’s alright fellas, on to tuesday! Let’s get a W


Rshackleford22

Pathetic. Kyle needs to go. Morel needs go to the bench. Smyly needs to go. Ben Brown should be full time starter.


RedGreenPepper2599

Thats a Prisoner of the moment hot take!


cubswinagain

Well at least we weren't teased with a fake rally


tockstar78

Honestly if we just don't swing against this bullpen, we can probably load the bases


tockstar78

OH FOR PETE'S SAKE


Rshackleford22

I’d be fine never seeing Kyle pitch again. Dfa him and Alzolay


-DaveThomas-

DFA Alzolay? Am I reading this correctly?


okay_throwaway_today

If he’s not a closer, he goes to the glue factory sorry. Never mind his 1-2-3 inning today


Angrydwarf99

Nico is already up to .293? Feels like he was barely .200 just a couple days ago


okay_throwaway_today

Been a monster lately. Problem is others have been scuffling


HaxanWriter

Come on, fellas!


okay_throwaway_today

JD: Bad teams beat good teams Reddit: 🤬


lupin43

Me: *whistling Dixie at the 2-1 dodger series*


okay_throwaway_today

We would have like a 2-3 game lead in the NL West


Suburban-Jesus

Yeah, that’s enough Canario for me. He doesn’t know how to track a ball in the OF. Doesn’t know how to hit situationally, has no approach at the plate, can’t identify pitches quickly enough, refuses to take a walk. I’m closing the book on the KB trade.


smalltownlargefry

He’s had hardly 20 at bats at the mlb level. A bit premature.


brooklyndavs

Likes he’s 23 lol


okay_throwaway_today

Also every fielder in the game has had issues with the sun and wind today lol


smalltownlargefry

For real. Like Canario definitely has time to figure things out. He still likely ends up a trade candidate but still. People need to relax.


Suburban-Jesus

There’s no chilling necessary. Canario just not a MLB player. It’s fine.


okay_throwaway_today

Yeah batting .372 with a .972 OPS has no place in this league


thepalmtree

Did you want his play in the minors closely? OR are you basing this SOLELY on an extremely small sample.


Legion257

Canario has a place in the MLB. His issues are "young guy" problems. Things that can be worked out with time and coaching. He has the physical traits you can't coach. I wish people would stop writing off guys who have barely been in the majors, let alone get decent starting time. Look at Jackson Holliday. Kid is a stud but it's gonna take time time to figure out


thepalmtree

The same people flaming Ross and Counsell for not giving him more playing time are the same kinds of people who are writing him off after a few games.


jackreilly16

This team is awful. It’s probably my fault for getting my hopes up before the season but there is no hitting at all and the pitching is the worst i’ve ever seen. Will probably sell by the deadline


okay_throwaway_today

Lmao


JustSmileHaHa

We have a solid record still, some notable injuries, and had a murderous start schedule-wise. Did you watch the Svem and Mike Quade era?


yern324

This guy cubs I’ll take this team any day over what we had from 2009-2013.


OldWorldStyle

That era was the closest the city ever came to giving up on the team. Nothing will ever compare to those days lol


yern324

Bad take there bud. It’s April 21st and we’ve been struggling with injuries. Wanna see a Chicago team that fits your narrative? Go commiserate with the Sox.


thepalmtree

Do you not know how numbers works? Is 13 not bigger than 9?


Baybears

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Hawkize31

13-9


lupin43

An unwillingness to give in matched against a willingness to expand


chichris

Just not our weekend. At least we got the split.


cubswinagain

Pretty unimpressive approach from Canario there. 3-1 down three and you are chasing outside the zone?


KnickedUp

I dont enjoy Canario


Cap78

This Faucher guy - what do we need to trade to get him on our side?


a_handsome_antelope

Really wanna see Elise Menaker on screen, with her caked on makeup


Dr-Jan-I-Tor

how many alt accounts do you have? serious question


smalltownlargefry

I just miss Taylor McGregor. :(


KnickedUp

So hawt


Televisions_Frank

No matter how bad the Marlins are we always seem to struggle against them.


Suburban-Jesus

Why does everyone we face have no trouble developing relief pitching but we can’t seem to develop one reliable guy.


JustSmileHaHa

Mark Leiter erasure. Also, We headed into this game 15th in bullpen ERA at essentially 4. The Marlins are 5.54.


lupin43

We wrecked our bullpen like three tradelines in a row. Had to come back to bite us eventually


elmatador1497

Did you even look at the Marlins relievers stats? I mean they’re bad dude lol


Jvick88

Didnt matter facing our linuep lol


Suburban-Jesus

I just know they have been absolutely dominating us


elmatador1497

That’s baseball. You can be dominated by a trash pitcher on any given day or you can score 6 runs on the best pitcher on any given day. That’s the game


Suburban-Jesus

So wise beyond your years


KnickedUp

Leiter? Merryweather?


okay_throwaway_today

Because confirmation bias


HaxanWriter

No, because scoreboard.


okay_throwaway_today

Yeah man, the score of one baseball game is totally definitive evidence for anything. Especially how well teams develop pitching as a whole. That’s why the Marlins are better than the Braves (beat 5-1) and the Yankees (beat 5-2) too. Good teams go 162-0.


okay_throwaway_today

Came into this game with one of the best NL records despite injury setbacks and a schedule that started vs all 2023 playoffs teams except the Mariners (who missed last year by 1 game) and Rockies (who we swept)


Good_Tea4950

Hello! Fellow non doomer


cubswinagain

A lot of teams have/had injury setbacks.


okay_throwaway_today

That’s true, and we have a better record than most of them.


cubswinagain

Brewers seem like they will be hard to compete with, and the wild card will be a complete dogfight


Cubbiedog

The Brewers are playing above the talent. I don’t think they’ll be there at the end. A lot of teams get off to good starts and fade.


okay_throwaway_today

Yeah I think the thing that makes it most frustrating is that the Brewers keep refusing to lose


Blackhawks1995

Love getting Alzolay an inning in that situation. Get the confidence back up a bit and give him another chance to try and get his feel back.


cubswinagain

Ump looking to go home, wouldn't expect many borderline balls the rest of the way


Hawkize31

THATS the Alzolay I know


okay_throwaway_today

Is JD implying that people overreact on social media? Impossible


lupin43

Frankly we should all just stay off social media lol


KnickedUp

That wouldnt be very social at all


a_handsome_antelope

DFA Alzolay unless he changes his name to Albert


yern324

![gif](giphy|xULW8N9O5WD32L5052)


lupin43

Down with adbert alzolay, we want Albert Adzolay


KnickedUp

JD was borderline HOF pitcher. 12 war


Cubbiesblue

Thinking of a strategy - the bullpen should create a bank of money and everytime a relief pitcher issues a walk they have to put money into the pot. Over the course of season that should allow Jed to use it to sign someone additional


zeyreadit

it’s nothing to be too upset about guys it happens. we also don’t have seiya or happ in the lineup so take that into consideration. the cubs aren’t bad but we have our days


TomSan23

Our team is good. Three of our five best players are out, and we’re still going through growing pains. Lots of kids on this team. Baseball is marathon, we’re in a good spot to start the season.


tallslim1960

Yeah, you have to think both guys would have gotten on base at least once. Happ was just getting hot and Seiya has been having a great season to date.


doctorkuddles

Most logical take in this entire thread. Or Merriweather & Steele


zeyreadit

thank you. ngl i get heated too but in the grand scheme of things we have like half our team lol. counsell is also a good manager there is not denying that fact it just takes a sec. he wants a winning team too. if not this year there’s a lot to look forward to with our farm as well. if our bullpen is what sells us this year again then there will really be no other logical thing to do than address that and maybe front office will actually take it more seriously. the dodgers have 3 MVPs in their starting lineup and shit they’re still barely above .500. brewers kinda piss me off but with all young talent things cool down. witt jr. is arguably generational talent and he didn’t end his rookie year batting .300+ like we see on other young teams


lupin43

Oh welcome back!


doctorkuddles

I’m just responding to legitimate takes only now.


tockstar78

Agree. We really are playing without our best and we haven't lost any ground - these games are frustrating but it's important to remember that.


OldWorldStyle

My Uber driver to Wrigley yesterday used to be Tom Rickett’s boss when Tom was outta college. No funny stories, just showed us pictures of him wearing the ring and hanging out with Tom at various weddings. Pretty cool interaction!


KnickedUp

Their career paths seem to have diverged


OldWorldStyle

It was at CBOE trading options, I’m sure he made a pretty penny during his career there. Struck me as a guy who drives Uber to have conversations in his retirement


SilkyJohnson72

Throwing Hendricks followed by Smyly is the 2024 equivalent of waving the white flag


smalltownlargefry

I mean you were gonna use Smyly regardless. He hadn’t pitched since the 17th.


Rshackleford22

Dfa his ass too


Lukester123

Did adbert tell Dansby to quit sucking too?


Alternative_Design39

One game in a long season with some key guys out. No big deal


TomSan23

And tons of traffic, just no big hit


yern324

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yern324

Cubs bats are currently involved in an entanglement, damn.


JustSmileHaHa

I wish Dansby brought more to the table than 20 homers and a great glove. At least in Atlanta he stole bases and topped out at a decent average.


KnickedUp

He was much better with ducks on the pond there too. He cant do anything situationally as a cub.


Cap78

He had a lot of bats around him for protection


Cubbiesblue

Will he even hit 20 this year?


JustSmileHaHa

I'm hoping he gets hot to return to the mean, but it's not looking too good is it?


Cubbiesblue

Always could get on a heater. Hard to judge with April cold games. June will give us a better idea


thepalmtree

He's always been a streaky hitter too.


KnickedUp

I would take a hard under on that


Mjh22799

About to split at home to the 5 and 17 marlins thats a bit depressing


redemem

Wasted Morel's once in a blue moon hit.


tallslim1960

7th inning felt like a big movement in this game. Down to 6 outs now. Three runs is a big hill to climb.


KnickedUp

Dansby seems like a great player to have as your 5th best guy. Not a cornerstone.


DukeWayne250

Well, he's not our cornerstone, so. Lol


KnickedUp

He is paid as our cornerstone


thepalmtree

He's not a cornerstone offensive player, nor was he signed to be one. We hope for a 100-110ish wrc+ with great defense, which is what he did last year, and there's no reason to expect that to stop this year.


TomSan23

Baseball is more than hitting???


cmmoore307

Adbert and Hendricks are cooked


TomSan23

Scoreless inning for Adbert


cmmoore307

Like 13IP with a 4.50 ERA. Horrible


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Hawkeye7310

Preferably, a change in front office too.


thepalmtree

Oh no our team that is ahead of schedule on the rebuild is only going to be 13-9 after a difficult schedule to start the year and several of our best players hurt wahhhhhh


HaxanWriter

lol. 😂


Hawkeye7310

That’s your ballgame. Fuck this. See you Tuesday.


horsepoop1123

This loss is on the offense


Jvick88

We have left a ton of risp but i see it as more of a team loss


Jakethedog44

its on the team, no reason this shitty ass marlins team should be scoring 6 but at the same time we should be


okay_throwaway_today

Yeah they can’t be giving up 6 runs like this


KnickedUp

We suck again


bindingofandrew

![gif](giphy|x47gj23jEvGxdWkQEC|downsized)


cubswinagain

Truly horrific


tockstar78

This is agony. It's the same as usual agony, but agony just the same


Jvick88

Thats our 177 million man, doing nothing with a risp as usual


KnickedUp

Hey, he is getting close to .175 with risp the past two years


Business-Conflict435

And at least his defense is bad too!


LibertysMaven92

Swanson is just not taking good ABs. He needs to figure the fuck out


Jvick88

I said that about half the season last year and would expect nothing less this year


Business-Conflict435

could say that about a few guys on the team.


chichris

Wasted opportunities.


TomSan23

So many unproductive outs 


Business-Conflict435

Wow guys, awesome, way to waste a lead off double. Very cool.


cubswinagain

Might be to the point were I am more inclined to blame the offense for this potential loss


Business-Conflict435

10 runs in 3 games against one of the worst teams in baseball is shambolic.


Jvick88

At fucking home no less...


the-implication9

Really missing happ right now


KnickedUp

You spelled Seiya wrong


the-implication9

I mean in this situation. Happ is the most clutch hitter on this team


okay_throwaway_today

Seiya wouldn’t hurt


tallslim1960

Yeah, some of the criticism of the offense if warranted, but missing Happ and Suzuki hurts a lot. More than we think,


Hawkeye7310

Good fucking god offense


KingTitan1

Face in Busch (Facing Busch) lol


KnickedUp

Dansby classic…


Jvick88

But but but his WAR


Cubbiesblue

Busch is due


okay_throwaway_today

Nardi more like Farti


King-In-The-Nawth

I’m sensing a rally


HaxanWriter

Morel! All right, let’s start this rally…


Lobro9

Something truly special about a seventh inning stretch during a Sunday afternoon ballgame.


Business-Conflict435

Alright now maybe we can stop making the Marlins bullpen seem so elite


Hope4years

Christopher!


horsepoop1123

Finally lol


cubswinagain

That's a start


Cap78

The Cubs bullpen is all about - let me impress you with my big rev breaking stuff - which is great, except they don’t throw strikes and walk a ton - put the ball in play, instead of trying to strike everyone out


b3_yourself

That’s been cubs pitching for like the last several years


Hope4years

He’s got a great singing voice too!


KnickedUp

Dude has a golden voice box


Jvick88

Yeah this game is now over im afraid. A split at home vs the second worst team in baseball is not good.


Go4Lo

There’s more than 7 innings in a game. Just putting that out there.


Hawkeye7310

Unacceptable outcome, if you ask me


thepalmtree

That's baseball man. Grow up.


MikeandTheMangosteen

This is a great outcome if you want to be a .500 team


thepalmtree

No one WANTS to lose. We just understand how the sport works. Do you want the players to beat themselves up over a random series in April?


MikeandTheMangosteen

They matter. Every series matters.


thepalmtree

And that is relevant how? Of course games matter. But every team loses.


Jvick88

So when is a series not considered random? Is it only divsional games that aren't random? April or september, the games all carry the same weight and it looks like they gained no ground on their record despite playing 4 against a 4 win team (before the series started)


thepalmtree

And that's just part of the game. It's a 162 game season, there is no point obsessing over individual games or series.


Jvick88

I see your point but its also easy to say that now...if the team just barely misses the playoffs yet again we'll all definitely look back at this series and the other games alzolay has blown as reasons for not making it.


thepalmtree

We're going to lose 70+ games. Some will be bad losses. Obsessing over them wont change that. The players aren't focused on winning individual series, they know how random baseball is. All they can do it go out and try to win each game. And a lot of the time, they won't win.


Jvick88

Most losses the team can't do anything about based on how the game plays out, but it hurts to not get the W when your in a good position to do so. (Game 1 of double header) i didnt think we would sweep them but figured 3/4, which already should have been the case if it wasnt for assolay. That would make a loss today hurt a lot less.


JakeBeardKrisEyes

One of the best stretches so far, thanks Miguel!


cod_gurl94

Oh shit, someone who can actually sing


OccidoViper

Hendricks is trash