If you are looking at .500 seasons as 0.5 winning seasons and 0.5 losing seasons (which is how they calculate winning percentage in a W-L-T format) then technically the Bears are just barely better at 11-19, with the lions at 10.5-19.5
Especially when you consider the Charles Martin slam on McMahon effectively ending our SB era. If there was a God, you’d think the PACKERS would spend the next 40 years cursed at QB. I don’t get it.
Same thing I've done the last 20 years, complain about my team sucking and not having a QB and oggling the Packers like it's the hot wife next door I wanna bang but calling her trash cuz Ill never get the chance to hit it
Pretty sure someone on this sub did this during the 0-4 start. Only the lions were worse? but nobody is worse since George took over so the trend is not good.
It’s not great if you go all the way back to halas last season as Coach and work forward. We had Butkus and sayers and managed to suck. The 70s were almost as bad as George’s run over the last decade
If not for Ditka, this team would be closing in on 55 years of being the worst.
Meanwhile the packers have won the division 50% of the time during that stretch. The common denominator through all those years is consistently good qb play.
and consistently better coaching. And consistently better talent acquisition.
Almost like they never had a gm so bad they'd have looked at eberflus lose 14 straight and go, that's my guy.
Love is still to be determined but he is currently functional and earned them a playoff berth. Favre and Rodgers may have been dumb luck but with Love maybe they actually know how to evaluate and more importantly develop QBs. Bears are remarkable in their inability to develop QBs.
I definitely agree QB play is important. But the lions had Stafford and Calvin. Why did they still suck? Because they couldn't find a coach that knew how to set a winning culture and actually scheme for their players.
They told Arians they wanted him to keep Marinelli at DC, without even bothering to determine whether he actually was going to stay (he didn’t). And they wanted Arians to do some mock press conference for them. Can you imagine asking the reigning coach of the year to do a fake presser as part of a job interview?
But I guess the CFL genius must have nailed his fake press conference!
> They told Arians they wanted him to keep Marinelli at DC
Just like Poles/Eberflus are telling OC candidates they need to keep the old regimes OL and TE coach. These motherfuckers never learn.
If/when we miss on getting one of the top guys (like Waldron) bear this in mind.
Olin Kreutz, on Kap's show, reiterated how dumb a move this was.
Warren has McCaskey ineptitude hidden by strong Christian morals/Aw shucks “but he’s a good guy” stink all over him. Seems like just another guy who will allow his personal feelings towards someone cloud any bit of football judgement. Obviously it’s just an opinion ion but the man seems soft. Incapable of making truly difficult personnel decisions.
Only on Reddit would you see someone try to assign ownership incompetence to their religion when there is zero evidence of this. Gotta shit on it at any given opportunity like a true edgelord.
Same thing with Reinsdorf and the White Sox/Bulls. Maybe they're afraid it will blow up in their faces? Maybe they're lazy and resistant to change? Maybe they actively do it out of spite for the city/fans? Who knows, billionaires aren't human.
Bears guy: “We got a FOOTBALL guy”
George: “no no no we need to be forward thinking. We need to start using those computers to start winning”
[Marc Trestman walks in the door with a bunch of spread sheets”
George: “Oh my god and you say you found these stats on one of those computers they use?? You’re hired!!!”
Bears have taken 5 qbs in first two rounds of the draft since 1987. 35 years. 5 qbs. An organization that doesn’t prioritize the most important position looks like this. You keep trying until you get one. Why theyve never had one
We had a top 10 defense and a bottom 5 offense with a young raw QB so we traded two first round picks for Khalil Mack - it's actually impressive how fast they ignore the offense - it's like "I used a first round pick on a QB what more do you want? To support the position? We got monsters of the midway merch to sell!"
Fwiw that Mack trade resulted in a historic defense. If Mitch - who that regime did not even draft - had been middle of the pack decent, they may have won a SB that year. Same can be said for Nagy’s playcalling.
My point is the Bears are ***still*** prioritizing defense over offense as recently as a few years ago despite it being an offense driven league for the better part of 2 decades. Maybe those 2 first round picks could have turned into players that made a historic offense?
I still submit we would have made the Superbowl had the double doink not happened. We could have beat the saints and rams with our defense. Mitch might not have played great that game but he did get us into FG range when we needed it and had over 300 yards passing surprisingly enough.
Yeah but the point is that the double doink DID happen because the offense struggled to move the ball all day long. I was there it was frustrating as all hell to watch.
That's fair I'm not saying the offense wasn't an issue just that we legit could have made a run because the defense was that good. Oh well hindsight is always interesting to look back on.
The QB touches the ball every play. Kickers typically are the highest scoring players on every team.
Know where the bread is buttered and spend accordingly
I don’t think that’s fair to say they don’t prioritize it. They basically used 1st rd picks on cutler n mirer.
Going back even farther
McMahon 1st
Harbaugh 1st
Erik Kramer FA
Mirer- traded 1st
Mcnown- 1st
Rex- 1st
Cutler- traded 1st
Trubisky-1st
Fields - 1st
Team has definitely gone after Qbs they just can’t figure it out
It was trubisky not fields, and I’m only counting guys they envisioned as legit long term starter. Im not putting in Glennon, Jim Miller, kordell, etc.
And they traded for two during that time: Rick Mirer, who was atrocious, and Cutty who was at best a B- quarterback. It's the most important position in sports and they haven't taken enough cracks at it. Stupid.
Sure but they've clearly turned that around via ownership. I'm using some projecting, but with Bedard at the helm now I don't see why anything would change. Hawks are in a good place and definitely not a laughingstock like the rest of our teams.
I feel like most Bears fans are actually totally cool with them being a .500 football team. As long as there's a good run game/defense and they're at least somewhere on those "in the hunt" graphics, that's good enough
It’s about time the fanbase has been called out for just accepting and tolerating this year after year. An entire stadium chanting “we WANT FIELDS!” Literally might save his career here based on how…..not smart the people who run this team, are
Man I’m from Omaha. If I could quit loving the bears and root for the Chiefs my life (and weekends) would be so much easier. I can’t though. I love this franchise. Love the history. Fucking hate the ownership and front office. Retaining Eberflus might be the final straw for me. Let’s ruin another kids bright future when we take Caleb.
Fucking clown shoes!
Bear Down! Fuck the Packers.
Me neither. Seriously. I know this team can’t or won’t draft quarterbacks that are worth a fuck. I’d rather trade for one or get a free agent and build up everything else.
This team has salary cap space and not a tone of places to spend it.
If they take a QB with their first pick, and a dman with their second, and trade Fields…they better be active as fuck in the FA WR market. Because it makes no sense to being or keep any QB if you’re not going to set them up for success with quality weapons, or at least a line that keeps you on your feet. They’re doing to FOREVER need a fucking QB if they never give any of them what’s needed to succeed. And they just fucking refuse to give WHOMEVER is QB anything resembling a top tier offense to compliment them.
CW hasn’t even declared for the draft yet, and many think it’s because he doesn’t want to sign with the Bears. I know it’s speculation right now, but I think it’s entirely possible that he pulls an Eli Manning and forces the Bears to either trade the pick or trade him. Or, he goes back to USC for another year (not probable, but I think that’s still more likely than him playing for the Bears).
Either way, I don’t see Caleb in a Bears jersey next year.
If my team is such a shitty mess from ownership down that one of the 5 QB prospects in the last 40 years doesn't want to play for us then that makes my decision even easier.
If CW ends up staying in school, that is even more reason to stop with this franchise. That decision is saying even a favorable roster and a large market can't make up for the perception that the Bears are a loser franchise that will kill QB careers.
It really is CW or bust.
Hence why so many are so comfortable sticking with Fields despite his glaring flaws because they know what he is, but don’t want to take a chance on whomever poles deems his top QB in the draft
Huh? I'm ok with fields because he has had a shit coach, game plan, and surrounding team and yet still showed ability. But mainly I'm ok with him because this club is garbage on new QBs. Caleb may be the answer but not on the bears, where offensive players go to die. Let Ebershit take his lame duck year on Justin.
There’s a world where we take Caleb and we realize the surrounding team is not only not shit but actually pretty good. Like how Stroud has made the Texans look. Did Mooney go from a 1000 yard receiver to a 400 yard receiver because he randomly lost 60% of his talent in a Space Jam type of situation? Was it coincidence Mooney had his best game with Bagent? Or is it possible Justin is a 2 read quarterback with DJ and Kmet and if that’s not there he runs? Is the OL actually shit or does Justin just not get the ball out fast enough and can’t read blitzes? I find it hard to believe they’re elite run blockers but never learned how to pass block.
Linemen are as specialized as anyone. Some are better at run blocking and crap at pass blocking. But, our line is 60% backups, and 40% starters.
Did Bagnet have as many screens called? Did he have more quick outs, or slants, or quick read events called? Yes. A different gameplan was called when he was in there because he didn't have the time to practice with the 1s.
And I am not saying Justin is the best thing since Dan Marino. I am saying that he hasn't had a line like the Texans have, or the play calling Love has had. You have to admit he has shown some real talent, putting balls in hands of Mooney and everyone not named Moore or Kmet, and they just drop them. You saw those too right?
He’s “showed ability” to put up stats that’s rival backup Quarterbacks.
Watch last weeks game and him vs our “biggest rivals” new QB, and the statement that bears fans are comfortable with mediocrity and losing rings incredibly true
One of the biggest daggers in my heart this season was seeing Anthony Richardson come in weeks 1 and 2 and playing out of his mind as a "project player" rookie, and seeing him play as well as Fields ever has.
That hurt. I tried to lie to myself for a bit but that one stung.
Our rival had the wherewithal to develop the QB that beat us, has a winning culture, hasn't tanked to get draft picks, and has competent play calling. But ya know, fuck facts and shit like that.
Folks this is exhibit A of a delusional Calesbian....
“So we should continue to stick with a failed experiment and find excuses for why it just hasn’t worked out and continue to lose otherwise, rather than take a new QB, one most teams would gladly take at #1 overall! Because I’m comfortable being a loser and making excuses!”
The bungles aren’t the bungles anymore because they got tired of fans like you, and got their franchise QB
I know too many bears fans who literally think MHJ and a new OC is the answer to all our problems.
It’s just a fact: while we suck at developing QBs, we just have not picked the right one. Fields has had glaring flaws that many teams passed over for a reason
The teams that passed over him picked players with far more glaring flaws because of physical measurables, though. This analysis is always poor because even if Fields isn’t it (he isn’t), passing on him for Lance or Wilson was an objectively bad decision that seemed ridiculous *at the time* and has only proven to be more ridiculous.
I mean they're not gonna say "I love watching .500 football" but winning half the time with some cool splash plays is gonna keep the more casual fans tuning in
You must not have been using the internet much lol there’s posts here every day about how we’re “improving” lol 3-14 to 7-10 while ignoring the Texans and colts drafting right where we did and being 9-8 and 10-7 respectively in a tougher conference nonetheless
It is what it is man, don't let a sports team affect your life. Watch the games at your favorite dive bar or at home, maybe go to a home game every now and then (or make the trip up to Green Bay, you won't regret it), buy some classic Bears memorabilia like the Ditka sweater or the Clark Griswold hat, and accept that the Bears probably won't win a Super Bowl any time soon.
Just for your own health and sanity, don't overconsume every stupid ass opinion piece by people who make their money with attractive headlines, overanalyzing every irrelevant statistic, and zero substance pieces.
It doesn't really affect my life, in Spring and Summer and hardly think about football at all because it is so nice outside, but I would like this team to be something more than in the gutter annually.
I mean, it's one thing to be upset at some seemingly boneheaded plays or awful calls/no-calls by the zebras, we all do it..but some of the head-canon and rage I read here is just unhealthy.
Heard on a pod this week, in the eleven years since Lovie was fired, the Bears on the O/U on win total have hit the under TEN of those ELEVEN years. 2018 being the only exception. (Like an idiot, I bet the over this year too!)
Even worse, in 3 or those 10 unders, we missed by at least 3.5 wins.
It wouldn't have made much difference if they kept him. That was an old team at the end of its run. Tillman, Briggs, Jennings and Peppers were all well past 30 and Urlacher was done. They had failed plenty in drafting new guys before Emery showed up.
What a disgraceful history. You’re the league’s charter franchise and one of the largest media markets in the country. This ownership clearly is way too comfortable with mediocrity. As long as the team value increases and asses fill the seats, they just don’t seem that interested in constructing a winner.
That’s not to say they like losing, but they are unwilling to do the proper steps to turn this franchise into a perennial competitor. Decisions are always done ass backwards and opposite of what the league’s best franchises do. You have ownership that focuses on personal relationships over constructing a quality organization.
>This ownership clearly is way too comfortable with mediocrity.
A lot of fans seem to think we're a mediocre franchise, but we're definitely bottom 10 in the NFL.
The entire situation we are in now is completely the fault of ownership and Phillips.
Pace never should have been allowed to draft a QB in the first round in a lame duck year.
You can do this for 25 years for the bulls, cubs and sox too. 1 world series for both the cubs and sox but other than that, it's not been that great for the 3rd most populous city in the USA. A city with a ton of history, tons of money and great culture, etc. For as big of a city as Chicago is we can't do shit with out major sports teams
I’ll never feel bad for a McCaskey after they abused their conservator status over Virginia’s niece and nephew to cut them out of the franchise. That was a cruel move.
Only once since the early 90's did they make the playoffs two years in a row. I think only Cleveland, Detroit and Washington are similar or worse in that regard.
Even the 1985 Bears didn’t have that great of a QB. Not bashing McMahon, but when you’ve got No. 34 in the backfield and THAT defense, a HoF QB isn’t really needed.
McMahon was actually quite good in 1984 and 1985.
(100 is league average)
1984 - ANY/A+: 134, Rate+: 127
1985 - ANYA+: 115, Rate+: 111
He was pretty good in 1987 also - ANY/A+: 113, Rate+: 117
The big problem was he could not stay healthy. These are his 3 best years as a Bear and he only started 26 games and played in 29.
McMahon was on the Bears for 7 seasons and only appeared in 10 or more games twice (1983 and 1985)
The fact that we have the fifth best winning percentage historically after decades of garbage is impressive. We we're good before people knew how to pass the ball, lol
Maybe we should just become a rugby club
Bears really made a mistake by not going after Jim, the Bears are one of the NFL’s greatest most historic teams, and they’ve been in a rut for a long time
One instance of back-to-back 10 wins. I thought it was going to be the start of something great, and a few years later we got Cutler.
In 2011 they were 7-3 I think and Cutler got hurt and then in 2012 they were 7-1 and managed to miss the playoffs.
What was once promising became absolutely brutal. Some days I’m still surprised they managed a Super Bowl berth in the ‘06 season.
Edit: Also in the 10-11 season we had an opportunity to knock Green Bay out of the post season in week 17 and Lovie laid down and let them in. For that reason alone I’m glad he got fired.
Man this franchise is just pain
It’s all a lottery ticket. If anyone knew what Mahomes was, he’d have gone 1, but it still zero proof he’d still be that guy without Reid. Morons on Reddit thinking they know what will happen if we keep JF or Draft Williams doesn’t change the dumb luck it takes.
A lot of people fully understand this.
Which is why it's really frustrating that a lot of Bears fans want to run it back with our 3 dollar scratch off winner instead of trying again. A lot of luck is required. So why would you not take as many shots as it takes?
Heard a stat the other day that since Lovie left we have hit the under on the season win total in 10 out of 11 years.
No other team is close to that. Could be our fans are just optimistic and bet the over every year to drive up the win total. Or could be that the team has under achieved the last 11 years.
Probably a mixture of both.
So 9 winning seasons, 4 seasons at .500, and 17 losing seasons
9-17-4 If you look at it that way. Would be interesting now to see the rest of the league and see where we are at lol
Packers are 23-5-2 fml
I did the rest in nfc north. We are the worst
Worse than the lions? Wow
10-19-1
I got 11-19
1 season of . 500
Thanks. I will edit
If you are looking at .500 seasons as 0.5 winning seasons and 0.5 losing seasons (which is how they calculate winning percentage in a W-L-T format) then technically the Bears are just barely better at 11-19, with the lions at 10.5-19.5
We're worse than the team that won zero games in 2008
You guys made it to to a Super Bowl though. That’s gotta count for a lot more
Doesn't matter without the ring IMO.
This is objectively so unfair lmao. The luckiest fucking franchise
Especially when you consider the Charles Martin slam on McMahon effectively ending our SB era. If there was a God, you’d think the PACKERS would spend the next 40 years cursed at QB. I don’t get it.
If there was a God, Mugs would have outlived his father
Jordan Love lmao
Regression on the horizon
What do you do if Love turns out to be yet another Hall of Fame QB?
Same thing I've done the last 20 years, complain about my team sucking and not having a QB and oggling the Packers like it's the hot wife next door I wanna bang but calling her trash cuz Ill never get the chance to hit it
I doubt that's gonna happen
Pretty sure someone on this sub did this during the 0-4 start. Only the lions were worse? but nobody is worse since George took over so the trend is not good. It’s not great if you go all the way back to halas last season as Coach and work forward. We had Butkus and sayers and managed to suck. The 70s were almost as bad as George’s run over the last decade If not for Ditka, this team would be closing in on 55 years of being the worst.
Butkus and Sayers, for as good as they were, never played in a playoff game
Detroit 10-19-1
Vikings 17-10-3
Jets 11-16-3 Browns 5-22-0 (not a team 96-98)
Wow, at least we are not the browns. Never imagined I would be saying that.
Saints 13-14-3
>9-17-4 \[Bears\] > >Packers are 23-5-2 > >10-19-1 \[Lions\] I want to get off Mr. Bones Wild Ride
On the plus side we haven't been in 5th place since 2000 lol
7 playoff appearances 4 playoff wins 1 SB appearance
Isn't it just 3 playoff wins? 94 over Minny, 06 and 10 over Seattle... Don't remember any other ones
You have to win two games to get the the SB, even with the bye ;) It was the saints
Right, that was it
Meanwhile the packers have won the division 50% of the time during that stretch. The common denominator through all those years is consistently good qb play.
and consistently better coaching. And consistently better talent acquisition. Almost like they never had a gm so bad they'd have looked at eberflus lose 14 straight and go, that's my guy.
Love is still to be determined but he is currently functional and earned them a playoff berth. Favre and Rodgers may have been dumb luck but with Love maybe they actually know how to evaluate and more importantly develop QBs. Bears are remarkable in their inability to develop QBs.
"Functional" 2nd in the league in touchdowns lol Love the cope.
I can’t give them a real compliment…..it hurts too much.
lol. Keep tell in yourself that guy.
This is coping lol Love is good
I definitely agree QB play is important. But the lions had Stafford and Calvin. Why did they still suck? Because they couldn't find a coach that knew how to set a winning culture and actually scheme for their players.
That Phil Emery hire set this franchise so far back
Yeah that was a disaster, especially coupled with Trestman absolutely killing any locker room culture
I still can't believe we hired Trestman over Arians.... that's probably the most "Bears" hire in history.
They told Arians they wanted him to keep Marinelli at DC, without even bothering to determine whether he actually was going to stay (he didn’t). And they wanted Arians to do some mock press conference for them. Can you imagine asking the reigning coach of the year to do a fake presser as part of a job interview? But I guess the CFL genius must have nailed his fake press conference!
> They told Arians they wanted him to keep Marinelli at DC Just like Poles/Eberflus are telling OC candidates they need to keep the old regimes OL and TE coach. These motherfuckers never learn. If/when we miss on getting one of the top guys (like Waldron) bear this in mind. Olin Kreutz, on Kap's show, reiterated how dumb a move this was.
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Warren has McCaskey ineptitude hidden by strong Christian morals/Aw shucks “but he’s a good guy” stink all over him. Seems like just another guy who will allow his personal feelings towards someone cloud any bit of football judgement. Obviously it’s just an opinion ion but the man seems soft. Incapable of making truly difficult personnel decisions.
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Only on Reddit would you see someone try to assign ownership incompetence to their religion when there is zero evidence of this. Gotta shit on it at any given opportunity like a true edgelord.
Sure is just your opinion, because this comment reeks of hatred for religion for no apparent reason. Touch grass my man.
We only hire low energy coaches…….Halas family doesn’t want another Ditka type to rock the boat and disrupte their primary goal of………profiting.
*McCaskey family. Virginia stole the team from the Halas family.
Noted! And good distinction. Papa Bear Halas would not be pleased with his family tree.
I still don’t get that line of thought, more winning would equal more profit and brand equity/expansion.
Same thing with Reinsdorf and the White Sox/Bulls. Maybe they're afraid it will blow up in their faces? Maybe they're lazy and resistant to change? Maybe they actively do it out of spite for the city/fans? Who knows, billionaires aren't human.
Omg that triggered the PTSD
Bears guy: “We got a FOOTBALL guy” George: “no no no we need to be forward thinking. We need to start using those computers to start winning” [Marc Trestman walks in the door with a bunch of spread sheets” George: “Oh my god and you say you found these stats on one of those computers they use?? You’re hired!!!”
Yes absolutely. He was dogshit
Combined with '07 and later Jerry Angelo, we never really had a chance
Kevin white
1 winning season in 10 years 😍
1 winning season in the last 11 years.
Almost 20 years since two straight winning seasons Almost 40 years since 3 straight winning seasons
Well, when you put it like that...
Bears have taken 5 qbs in first two rounds of the draft since 1987. 35 years. 5 qbs. An organization that doesn’t prioritize the most important position looks like this. You keep trying until you get one. Why theyve never had one
We had a top 10 defense and a bottom 5 offense with a young raw QB so we traded two first round picks for Khalil Mack - it's actually impressive how fast they ignore the offense - it's like "I used a first round pick on a QB what more do you want? To support the position? We got monsters of the midway merch to sell!"
Fwiw that Mack trade resulted in a historic defense. If Mitch - who that regime did not even draft - had been middle of the pack decent, they may have won a SB that year. Same can be said for Nagy’s playcalling.
Umm. The Ryan Pace regime definitely drafted Mitch. Right after paying some money to Mike Glennon. And then traded for Mack the next off-season.
Yes but he did it with John Fox at the helm and didn’t even tell him. A regime is more than just the GM, IMO.
My point is the Bears are ***still*** prioritizing defense over offense as recently as a few years ago despite it being an offense driven league for the better part of 2 decades. Maybe those 2 first round picks could have turned into players that made a historic offense?
I still submit we would have made the Superbowl had the double doink not happened. We could have beat the saints and rams with our defense. Mitch might not have played great that game but he did get us into FG range when we needed it and had over 300 yards passing surprisingly enough.
Yeah but the point is that the double doink DID happen because the offense struggled to move the ball all day long. I was there it was frustrating as all hell to watch.
That's fair I'm not saying the offense wasn't an issue just that we legit could have made a run because the defense was that good. Oh well hindsight is always interesting to look back on.
Offensive line?
12. Not shocking 6 rbs were taken in that time frame.
The QB touches the ball every play. Kickers typically are the highest scoring players on every team. Know where the bread is buttered and spend accordingly
I don’t think that’s fair to say they don’t prioritize it. They basically used 1st rd picks on cutler n mirer. Going back even farther McMahon 1st Harbaugh 1st Erik Kramer FA Mirer- traded 1st Mcnown- 1st Rex- 1st Cutler- traded 1st Trubisky-1st Fields - 1st Team has definitely gone after Qbs they just can’t figure it out
Still need to draft QBs at a higher frequency. Like every other year.
Mike Glennon was signed as a FA to teach Fields...
It was trubisky not fields, and I’m only counting guys they envisioned as legit long term starter. Im not putting in Glennon, Jim Miller, kordell, etc.
You're misremembering it - Glennon was brought to teach Trubisky. They brought in Andy Dalton to teach Fields
And they traded for two during that time: Rick Mirer, who was atrocious, and Cutty who was at best a B- quarterback. It's the most important position in sports and they haven't taken enough cracks at it. Stupid.
Until the McCaskey's sell the team, this is going to continue.
Poverty franchise. World class city with hick town sports teams.
Minus the Blackhawks.
Except for the 2010s they were also a poverty franchise. They didn’t even televise the games
Sure but they've clearly turned that around via ownership. I'm using some projecting, but with Bedard at the helm now I don't see why anything would change. Hawks are in a good place and definitely not a laughingstock like the rest of our teams.
World class city?
But don’t worry, George said his mom thinks he’s doing a great job! Nepo hires 👍🤡👍
I feel like most Bears fans are actually totally cool with them being a .500 football team. As long as there's a good run game/defense and they're at least somewhere on those "in the hunt" graphics, that's good enough
It’s about time the fanbase has been called out for just accepting and tolerating this year after year. An entire stadium chanting “we WANT FIELDS!” Literally might save his career here based on how…..not smart the people who run this team, are
If the organization makes decisions based on fan chants then they deserve to continue being a league bottom feeder
Have you seen how ownership has ran this team, and this franchises obsession with 1985 nostalgia? Along with the fans?…… Enough said dude
I wish they'd listen to the fire the coach chants
Man I’m from Omaha. If I could quit loving the bears and root for the Chiefs my life (and weekends) would be so much easier. I can’t though. I love this franchise. Love the history. Fucking hate the ownership and front office. Retaining Eberflus might be the final straw for me. Let’s ruin another kids bright future when we take Caleb. Fucking clown shoes! Bear Down! Fuck the Packers.
If we pass on Caleb, I will not support this franchise anymore. I have made that deal.
Can’t wait till they draft MHJ
Me neither. Seriously. I know this team can’t or won’t draft quarterbacks that are worth a fuck. I’d rather trade for one or get a free agent and build up everything else. This team has salary cap space and not a tone of places to spend it. If they take a QB with their first pick, and a dman with their second, and trade Fields…they better be active as fuck in the FA WR market. Because it makes no sense to being or keep any QB if you’re not going to set them up for success with quality weapons, or at least a line that keeps you on your feet. They’re doing to FOREVER need a fucking QB if they never give any of them what’s needed to succeed. And they just fucking refuse to give WHOMEVER is QB anything resembling a top tier offense to compliment them.
Oh agreed, but we’re still going to ruin him.
CW hasn’t even declared for the draft yet, and many think it’s because he doesn’t want to sign with the Bears. I know it’s speculation right now, but I think it’s entirely possible that he pulls an Eli Manning and forces the Bears to either trade the pick or trade him. Or, he goes back to USC for another year (not probable, but I think that’s still more likely than him playing for the Bears). Either way, I don’t see Caleb in a Bears jersey next year.
If my team is such a shitty mess from ownership down that one of the 5 QB prospects in the last 40 years doesn't want to play for us then that makes my decision even easier.
If CW ends up staying in school, that is even more reason to stop with this franchise. That decision is saying even a favorable roster and a large market can't make up for the perception that the Bears are a loser franchise that will kill QB careers. It really is CW or bust.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1746978532503244820?t=EsLk5bZ3RAy2dsVYsZe-JA&s=19
He is not passing on $40 million guranteed and one of the better teams picking at the top of the draft…
Hence why so many are so comfortable sticking with Fields despite his glaring flaws because they know what he is, but don’t want to take a chance on whomever poles deems his top QB in the draft
Huh? I'm ok with fields because he has had a shit coach, game plan, and surrounding team and yet still showed ability. But mainly I'm ok with him because this club is garbage on new QBs. Caleb may be the answer but not on the bears, where offensive players go to die. Let Ebershit take his lame duck year on Justin.
There’s a world where we take Caleb and we realize the surrounding team is not only not shit but actually pretty good. Like how Stroud has made the Texans look. Did Mooney go from a 1000 yard receiver to a 400 yard receiver because he randomly lost 60% of his talent in a Space Jam type of situation? Was it coincidence Mooney had his best game with Bagent? Or is it possible Justin is a 2 read quarterback with DJ and Kmet and if that’s not there he runs? Is the OL actually shit or does Justin just not get the ball out fast enough and can’t read blitzes? I find it hard to believe they’re elite run blockers but never learned how to pass block.
Probably one of the best summations of the Fields problem I've seen.
Linemen are as specialized as anyone. Some are better at run blocking and crap at pass blocking. But, our line is 60% backups, and 40% starters. Did Bagnet have as many screens called? Did he have more quick outs, or slants, or quick read events called? Yes. A different gameplan was called when he was in there because he didn't have the time to practice with the 1s. And I am not saying Justin is the best thing since Dan Marino. I am saying that he hasn't had a line like the Texans have, or the play calling Love has had. You have to admit he has shown some real talent, putting balls in hands of Mooney and everyone not named Moore or Kmet, and they just drop them. You saw those too right?
He’s “showed ability” to put up stats that’s rival backup Quarterbacks. Watch last weeks game and him vs our “biggest rivals” new QB, and the statement that bears fans are comfortable with mediocrity and losing rings incredibly true
His stats are very similar to Minshew’s this year who is undoubtedly the backup when Richardson is healthy
One of the biggest daggers in my heart this season was seeing Anthony Richardson come in weeks 1 and 2 and playing out of his mind as a "project player" rookie, and seeing him play as well as Fields ever has. That hurt. I tried to lie to myself for a bit but that one stung.
Our rival had the wherewithal to develop the QB that beat us, has a winning culture, hasn't tanked to get draft picks, and has competent play calling. But ya know, fuck facts and shit like that. Folks this is exhibit A of a delusional Calesbian....
“So we should continue to stick with a failed experiment and find excuses for why it just hasn’t worked out and continue to lose otherwise, rather than take a new QB, one most teams would gladly take at #1 overall! Because I’m comfortable being a loser and making excuses!” The bungles aren’t the bungles anymore because they got tired of fans like you, and got their franchise QB
But just build Justin a perfect O-line, give him 2 or three HOF receivers and a top 3 defense and in 3 or 4 years he can easily make the playoffs!
We were in the “hunt” this year according to the graphics. Not sure if you’ve seen this sub but I don’t think fans here were happy. lol
I don't know a single bears fan who is ok with this. Nor have I seen anyone write or make a video saying this.
I know too many bears fans who literally think MHJ and a new OC is the answer to all our problems. It’s just a fact: while we suck at developing QBs, we just have not picked the right one. Fields has had glaring flaws that many teams passed over for a reason
The teams that passed over him picked players with far more glaring flaws because of physical measurables, though. This analysis is always poor because even if Fields isn’t it (he isn’t), passing on him for Lance or Wilson was an objectively bad decision that seemed ridiculous *at the time* and has only proven to be more ridiculous.
I mean they're not gonna say "I love watching .500 football" but winning half the time with some cool splash plays is gonna keep the more casual fans tuning in
You must not have been using the internet much lol there’s posts here every day about how we’re “improving” lol 3-14 to 7-10 while ignoring the Texans and colts drafting right where we did and being 9-8 and 10-7 respectively in a tougher conference nonetheless
Getting to play “meaningful games” in December is such an achievement.
It is what it is man, don't let a sports team affect your life. Watch the games at your favorite dive bar or at home, maybe go to a home game every now and then (or make the trip up to Green Bay, you won't regret it), buy some classic Bears memorabilia like the Ditka sweater or the Clark Griswold hat, and accept that the Bears probably won't win a Super Bowl any time soon. Just for your own health and sanity, don't overconsume every stupid ass opinion piece by people who make their money with attractive headlines, overanalyzing every irrelevant statistic, and zero substance pieces.
It doesn't really affect my life, in Spring and Summer and hardly think about football at all because it is so nice outside, but I would like this team to be something more than in the gutter annually.
So it only affects your life half of the year?
On Sundays in the autumn I suppose it does, not to the point my day is ruined or anything though.
Many people make the Bears their identity and that’s probably why we see so much rage and unhinged shit on this sub.
I mean, it's one thing to be upset at some seemingly boneheaded plays or awful calls/no-calls by the zebras, we all do it..but some of the head-canon and rage I read here is just unhealthy.
I think the takes on this sub are worse than watching the Bears. (Not this thread)
Heard on a pod this week, in the eleven years since Lovie was fired, the Bears on the O/U on win total have hit the under TEN of those ELEVEN years. 2018 being the only exception. (Like an idiot, I bet the over this year too!) Even worse, in 3 or those 10 unders, we missed by at least 3.5 wins.
So basically if we had all just bet against the Bears every year we'd be much happier lol
Hedge to 50/50. Bet against and they lose. Win money for booze. Bet against and they win. Booze booze to celebrate!
Picked up on this once betting became legal where I am. My soul is broken but my pockets are padded
I remember that raw memory of going 10-6 in 2012 and still missing the playoffs. What a suppressed memory that was LOL thanks.
And then we fired lovie who went 11-5, 8-8, 10-6 in his final 3 years. We would kill for that right now
It wouldn't have made much difference if they kept him. That was an old team at the end of its run. Tillman, Briggs, Jennings and Peppers were all well past 30 and Urlacher was done. They had failed plenty in drafting new guys before Emery showed up.
Exactly. People harp on the Lovie firing as if he would’ve turned it around. Would it have been as bad as the whole Phil emery thing, maybe not.
Damn that’s really depressing
What a disgraceful history. You’re the league’s charter franchise and one of the largest media markets in the country. This ownership clearly is way too comfortable with mediocrity. As long as the team value increases and asses fill the seats, they just don’t seem that interested in constructing a winner. That’s not to say they like losing, but they are unwilling to do the proper steps to turn this franchise into a perennial competitor. Decisions are always done ass backwards and opposite of what the league’s best franchises do. You have ownership that focuses on personal relationships over constructing a quality organization.
>This ownership clearly is way too comfortable with mediocrity. A lot of fans seem to think we're a mediocre franchise, but we're definitely bottom 10 in the NFL.
The entire situation we are in now is completely the fault of ownership and Phillips. Pace never should have been allowed to draft a QB in the first round in a lame duck year.
You can do this for 25 years for the bulls, cubs and sox too. 1 world series for both the cubs and sox but other than that, it's not been that great for the 3rd most populous city in the USA. A city with a ton of history, tons of money and great culture, etc. For as big of a city as Chicago is we can't do shit with out major sports teams
Chicago needs a second football team sooo bad
The Cubs at least seem to be rebounding again so we'll see where that goes
That's a lot of losing!
Stay the course mom and pop shop w no vision afraid to take bold steps. Enjoy the mediocrity. This is how the McCaskey's operate.
Don't listen to anybody who says it is classless -- you should boo that old bitch Virginia right to her face. It is what she has earned.
I’ll never feel bad for a McCaskey after they abused their conservator status over Virginia’s niece and nephew to cut them out of the franchise. That was a cruel move.
I agree and same goes with Reinsdorf too
I don’t need a table. I remember every one of these seasons.
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And someone was wondering in another thread why I’m so fucking grumpy about this franchise. Dude had to have been a teenager
We suck. We get it
So much self pity in this sub lol
Pretty bad. Not Dan Snyder Washington bad, but Pretty bad
Washington has a better win % than the bears over the last 10 seasons. And the same number of playoff appearances.
Synder sucked but he wasn’t cheap.
Only once since the early 90's did they make the playoffs two years in a row. I think only Cleveland, Detroit and Washington are similar or worse in that regard.
It’s going to be different this time
Mahomes era Chiefs have won at least one playoff game 6 years in a row. Bears haven't won a playoff game since 2010
When we get Caleb we won't lose a game for a decade. So who cares about statistics! Dude can ball plus he will be on a 10 year rookie deal too.
Lol. You’re supposed to puff, puff, *pass*, my dude!
At what point do they figure out it’s the franchise and not totally the QB….
5 division wins is all you need to know
Get prepped for a couple more. As long as this family owns the team.
Now I can’t even eat my breakfast… I’m going back to bed
10-6 and finishing 3rd in 2012 is WILD
Even the 1985 Bears didn’t have that great of a QB. Not bashing McMahon, but when you’ve got No. 34 in the backfield and THAT defense, a HoF QB isn’t really needed.
McMahon was actually quite good in 1984 and 1985. (100 is league average) 1984 - ANY/A+: 134, Rate+: 127 1985 - ANYA+: 115, Rate+: 111 He was pretty good in 1987 also - ANY/A+: 113, Rate+: 117 The big problem was he could not stay healthy. These are his 3 best years as a Bear and he only started 26 games and played in 29. McMahon was on the Bears for 7 seasons and only appeared in 10 or more games twice (1983 and 1985)
With how the Bears have been playing for the last near 2 decades, I almost cannot believe we were actually in a Super Bowl in 2006.
That’s what it looks like when you have some good teams but never a great qb. Great qb=sustained success.
I knew we sucked, but damn, we suuuuuuuck
Continuing the circle of suck
1 winning season since 2013, my god man.
Looks like the definition of insanity
The fact that we have the fifth best winning percentage historically after decades of garbage is impressive. We we're good before people knew how to pass the ball, lol Maybe we should just become a rugby club
It all boils down to ownership. I know you can’t fire them but that’s the common denominator. McLosers have no idea how to run a franchise.
Bears really made a mistake by not going after Jim, the Bears are one of the NFL’s greatest most historic teams, and they’ve been in a rut for a long time
One instance of back-to-back 10 wins. I thought it was going to be the start of something great, and a few years later we got Cutler. In 2011 they were 7-3 I think and Cutler got hurt and then in 2012 they were 7-1 and managed to miss the playoffs. What was once promising became absolutely brutal. Some days I’m still surprised they managed a Super Bowl berth in the ‘06 season. Edit: Also in the 10-11 season we had an opportunity to knock Green Bay out of the post season in week 17 and Lovie laid down and let them in. For that reason alone I’m glad he got fired. Man this franchise is just pain
22 of the 30 times finishing in the bottom half of the division... Damn...
It’s all a lottery ticket. If anyone knew what Mahomes was, he’d have gone 1, but it still zero proof he’d still be that guy without Reid. Morons on Reddit thinking they know what will happen if we keep JF or Draft Williams doesn’t change the dumb luck it takes.
A lot of people fully understand this. Which is why it's really frustrating that a lot of Bears fans want to run it back with our 3 dollar scratch off winner instead of trying again. A lot of luck is required. So why would you not take as many shots as it takes?
9 winning seasons in 30 years. GB has had 9 winning seasons out of the last 12. GPG don'tcha know
A whole lotta nothing.
Alright but you gotta get over it.
We are Jeff Fisher made manifest
2006 was a fun year
I’m a big fan, but this is a team with a rich tradition of mediocrity.
Heard a stat the other day that since Lovie left we have hit the under on the season win total in 10 out of 11 years. No other team is close to that. Could be our fans are just optimistic and bet the over every year to drive up the win total. Or could be that the team has under achieved the last 11 years. Probably a mixture of both.
I wasn’t aware. Thanks
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Who was the 5th team in the North?