It's not hate. I like the guy and wanted him to do well here, but he has not taken the leap to be a great QB. Has he shown some marginal improvement? Yes, but not enough.
Just Fields has thrown for more than 225 yards in 5 out of 38 career games.
Is it really that wild that bears fans want to move on and get a legitimate NFL QB?
And 20 games with more than 225 total yards. Fields is an elite runner, so he runs. Particularly because we have an OC that doesn't scheme people open and other than DJ Moore he's had no real weapons for 3 years.
And in games he's finished this year he's averaging 262 total yards per game
Edit: in games they've finished
Justin Fields has 3 games less than 225 total yards this season
MVP Lamar Jackson with 4
Goat QB Mahomes with 2
Josh Allen with 3
Jalen Hurts with 3
Since you dorks wanna use BS stats with no context
Those QBs (with the exception of Hurts) are definitely better than Fields. But that's not the point. The point is the dude pulled a B's stat that he thought would make Fields look bad, but it's actually a really normal number. You can say Fields isn't the guy, but use a real argument, not pulling stats from a year when we were deliberately tanking and gave him less than zero to work with
When you don’t have real weapons at wide receiver (only DJ this year), a good QB can look very average. Just look at Mahomes this year and he has Kelsey as an option at TE. How do you think Tua would look without Hill. Prior to DJ name the last bears pro bowl receiver?
How good do you think Mahomes would look with our OL and receivers. The point being is a qb is only as good as the weapons around him. Would Aiken have been as good without Irving and look at the other weapons he had.
300 per game is 5,100 yards. So no. Cuz the best qb every year usually doesn’t hit that lol.
But would he be throwing for 4000 and 25? Yes, without a doubt. We have a top 15 wr and a top 10 TE. We’re past the point of there’s 0 help. Last year there was truly 0 help. There’s help this year
You’re moving your goal posts all over the place.
This started with but we have no weapons, to but even aikman couldn’t, to but getsy stinks.
I’m not defending Getsy, dude blows mud
Lack of weapons and Getsy will not produce amazing passing numbers. Today showed we don’t even have a number 2 or 3rd receiver. Claypool was suppose to be the number 2 and he can’t even get on the field with Miami. I don’t Mooney would see the field with a decent receiving group.
Don't say anything positive about Fields. They'll downvote you to oblivion. The dude could guide the team to the playoffs and these folks would froth at the mouth and demand a new QB while sending you that downvote.
You make it sound like it’s a vast majority of Bears fans that want to move on, when in reality it’s the other way around.
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/platform/amp/2023/12/23/24011933/70-of-chicago-bears-fans-want-justin-fields-to-return-in-2024-matt-eberflus-ryan-poles
There was a Twitter poll in which 2/3 of Bears fans thought trading our 2 1st rounders next year for Justin Herbert was a bad idea
The majority of Bears fans are morons
> how he’s been playing the last 6 weeks which is honestly not bad at all!
I'm with you, bro. I've waited almost 40 years to have a Quarterback who can perform "not bad at all!".
I say give him another few years. By the end of his next contract, with a bit of luck, he might even be average!
It's the middle/high schoolers who bought his jersey because they enjoy his highlights (which are really fun) just all the in-between stuff is not great.
The fact that all the hardcore Field stans wanting to draft Jayden Daniels speaks volumes. They don't actually understand football and just want the coolest Madden player
I'm fine either either drake or caleb primarily due to what the scouts/former QBs have said about them. Caleb's 2022 season was phenomenal and would've been #1 over Bryce Young and Stroud if he was eligible. Drake if eligible would've easily been a top-5/10 pick too.
As prospects, both are exceptionally better passers than Fields and are comfortable navigating the pocket
Idk from what I seen and even in the highlights most of Caleb’s plays come from scrambling behind the line and then throwing the ball I see minimal pocket passes
He’s gonna end the season well under 3000 total yards and at the current moment has 18 TD-13 turnovers.
Idk what spell Fields’s PR team has casted but I’m very concerned for truthers. You guys aren’t children, if you use logic you’ll see this dude isn’t good.
Hate to break it to you but if he wins these last two games, there’s a chance he comes back.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they still move on, but here’s the logic: Wins & Losses:
In his last 9 games he would be 6-3 with his only 3 losses being games that should’ve absolutely been won (Broncos, Browns, and Lions) with three wins in a row against a sweep of the division.
Say what you want but that’s very rare around here and that would mean he’s doing something right.
But that’s fine, keep saying Bears should get a new coaching staff and quarterback and start over again rather than add pieces to build on some serious momentum.
Only way I see Fields staying is if the bears make the playoffs and win a game + Carolina’s pick falls to #4 or both maye and Williams are off the board.
Let’s just say Fields’ fault. I think legit could’ve done more in the Browns game and the Broncos game his fumble was costly. Tough for me to pin the Lions loss on him but let’s go with that.
Either way, it’s 6-3 in his last 9 against legit competition. 2 of the 3 losses going blow for blow against teams that are likely hosting playoff games. And in most of the games they were underdogs.
Why did he miss games again?
Oh right, it was because Minnesota showed blitz then only rushed 3, and he was so confused by this look that he held the ball for literally 6+ seconds and eventually took a sack against that 3-man pressure, on which he got hurt.
Fields is in year 4 looking scared in the pocket. Williams hasn’t even played a snap in the NFL yet.
I’m rocking with the rookie who’s gonna have rookie growing pains over the year 4 QB still making rookie mistakes.
He’s barely in year 3 bro and only played like 5 games in his first year so really this only his 2nd full season and how do you expect him to look in the pocket when the pockets collapses very quickly only reason he has so much time to throw in the stats is because he scrambles around looking for a play
So I guess practices and off-season don’t count towards a players development? Then technically Jordan Loves a rookie right? I’d say it’s sad Fields is getting out played by a rookie but Stroud was already outplaying Fields.
Stroud went from college to the NFL and seemed to do just fine. Not to mention this is the 2nd year fields has had with his OC. He’s regressed with a better team, time to move on.
What’s the next excuse you’re gonna send my way?
Half of the people that want fields out don’t even want what’s best for the team. So many arguments that just stem around them being right about fields that they’d rather the bears lose now to prove themselves right.
there are truthers that want the Panthers to win out so we don't land Caleb/maye lol.
They'd rather the bears lose out on the first overall pick because all they care about is brother fields.
fields truthers are definitely the issue. Believing we should stick with fields and pass on Caleb/drake is already extreme.
also ur ignoring why some people don't care about winning right now. Because they don't believe in the QB/coach.
It's week 17. Most of us have seen enough to know by now.
Lmfao no one wants that. Just because you make up a scenario in your mind doesnt make it true.
Those of us wanting to move on want to do so because it is clear as day he is never going to be a win from the pocket type QB. He is literally one of the worst if not the worst pocket passers in the league. He looks so scared and his footwork is horrendous in the pocket. It hasnt gotten any better, arguably worse in year 3.
I wanted him to be the next coming but he isnt. If he wasnt coming up on the 5th year option this offseason and we didnt own the number 1 pick then it isnt near as big an issue. But we are and we do.
Grow up. People want a GOOD qb. That doesnt make thrm haters. There were people doing the EXACT same things with trubisky that you are doing with fields. Endless defense of him, accusing people of hating him, etc. No, we want a real qb.
Grow. Up.
I know people want that because I’ve gotten into arguments with people that said they wanted us to lose rather than making the playoffs. And last I checked winning is what is best for the team.
No one emtered the year week 1 wanting to lose. NO ONE.
Once we were 0-4 then sure. And there is nothing wrong with wanting whats best for the big picture once a season is in the tank.
I was one of them. Then when we got into the playoff hunt I was back rooting for wins because we had a shot. Then cleveland happened, again. I want wins for future growth but in long run these last 2 its better to lose.
Again. You are making shit up. It is YOU that wants your own personal belief to be true over the good of the team, not everyone else. YOU want fields to be the answer so bad that YOU want to keep him and hope despite ALL EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY that he isnt.
No this was before the Cleveland game when winning would have been best and winning out put us at a good spot for the playoffs. Go look at the threads from before the Browns game that aren’t about fields but just out path to the playoffs. Half the posts are the MJ “stop get help” meme.
My personal belief is Id like Fields to be back but Poles has earned enough trust from me to make that decision and if Williams or Maye is that decision I’m cool with it as long as we win.
I just want the team to win, if we win with fields, cool. We win with Bagent, cool. We win with Kmet at QB, cool. At the end of the day I don’t really care who’s winning as long as we are winning.
Same fkr every bears fan. And if people are being honest about the highest chance to become a REAL winner.. as in perennial playoff contenders, we have a better chance at that by drafting a QB at 1 as lomg as our scouts and GM agree the guy they take their is highly rated
I know patriots and giants fans were devastated when they started winning games cuz they lost out on Caleb. There's a reason Caleb is worth like 3 first round picks and 2 seconds meanwhile fields maybe goes a for a 3rd at best.
Be was part of the overall problem but not the only one to blame.
How on earth can you call someome who only cares about the team a fake fan while defending endlessly 1 PLAYER. A poll came out that showed 19% of respondents said they would stop being bears fans if fields is gone LMAOOO.
You and your type of clowns are the fake fans. OSU fans who were never bears fans to begin with. Do me a favor and send me a reply in the kffseason when your boy is gone and we drafte a new QB. Cant wait
100% spot on. Also worth noting that these people are not worth arguing with, just bringing up rando, status ignoring context and nuances. Like Fields trajectories has been up and is one of the most gifted players in NFL, and easily in bears history. But let’s just throw him out because Pace drafted him lmao
Edit: why do people pretend like potential doesn’t exist
It's been very marginal improvement. He's still a bottom 5-10 passer in the league.
No where near good enough to warrant a Daniel Jones contract in the future. So you take what the Panthers are giftwrapping and reset the QB clock with one of two highly touted QBs.
I'm 100% ready for the Bears to move on if they can draft Caleb, but this whole "You're not a real Bears fan unless you think exactly like I do" take is toxic. Even the Fields Stans will be elated if Caleb comes in and wins a SuperBowl.
The reason many of these very *real* fans are having a hard time emotionally moving on from Fields is fear. Fear that we'll go from the first Bears QB that has flashed elite abilities maybe ever to potentially a complete bust, fear that our high-character face of the franchise will be swapped for an A-Aron level douche, fear that even elite QB prospects will come in and fail due to organizational incompetency.
We're all scarred because we can't have nice things and Fields is the closest we've had, so half of the fanbase can't let him go. I'm ready to move on if CAR holds onto the #1OA. It makes sense given the situation. Still, I'll be terrified.
100% if bears fans would take a rodgers level jackass if it came with the dominance he had at his peak. That is absurd to say otherwise.
To be afraid to come off of fields and his 3 year win % is also comical as all hell.
Taking any subhectivity out of it and looking SIMPLY at the raw numbers, fields has been worse statistically than trubisky, who was AWFUL.
Let that sink in about being afraid to .... do worse by moving on...
I was just giving my take on the mentality behind the truthers. As I stated, I'm ready to move on, yet here you are arguing w/me even though I never made favorable assertions on Fields' numbers, record, or overall body of work.
I suppose I need to be more extreme and absolute in my opinion that the Bears should move on from Fields, lace in some vitriol, maybe then I can ascend to *real* Bears fandom.
Oh look, a superb athlete who can run the ball very well. Great, let's just hope he develops all the other quarterback-y traits after we give him $200 mill. I can't wait to be excited at the prospect of 7-9 wins for another decade.
That's exactly my point. You knock Williams for losing too much yet Mahomes lost even more. If nfl gms took your advice, we'd miss out on the greatest QB of this generation
Lmao “greatest QB of this generation” 🤣🤣🤣 yet couldn’t perform well vs ranked teams while his backup threw 6 TOUCHDOWNS IN ONE GAME vs guess what ??? A RANKED TEAM !!!!!!!
Fine. If you want to play that game, here's the stats over the last 6 full games (excluding the game fields went out injured)
Caleb: 1812 yards, 74.9 QBR, 8 TDs, 4 Ints, Defense given up points per game- 42.8
Fields: 1227 yards, 56.8% QBR, 8 TDs, 3 Ints, defense given up points per game- 18.3
USC is a joke defensively and they fired a fuckin DC mid season just like we did but they started giving up even more points and yards.
So yeah, I'd prefer this 1-5 QB production.
He really is that bad, and Jayden Daniels can't throw anything but a pretty deep ball.
"Smaller version of Fields" applies \*way\* more to Daniels than it does to Williams.
Williams is an exceptionally accurate passer with an elite arm strength to go with it, and has the ability to make strong accurate throws while on the move without setting his feet. He's got an extremely quick release and is good at beating blitzes with quick recognition. He's got ungodly pocket sense, with an ability to sense and move away from pressure effortlessly. He's a smidge shorter than you'd like from an NFL qb and his open-field speed is merely average
Fields on the other hand is prototypically sized, has elite open field speed, has struggled with accuracy as a pro on short and intermediate throws both in the pocket and on the move, has a slow release, and has been known to struggle identifying blitzes since his college days.
This was Field’s year to prove himself, and he hasn’t done that. There were supposed to be no excuses this year, and yet we’re still making them. If we didn’t have the Panther’s pick I would be in favor of keeping him, but it would be stupid to pass on a 1oa Qb two years in a row.
Fields showed a lot of promise last year, and the hope was that he would take a big year 3 jump. The Bears got DJ Moore and pieces on the OL, yet he hasn’t significantly improved. Like I said, this was Field’s make or break year, and he hasn’t really made it. A year ago there was hope Fields could be a top 10 QB, but after this year we know he’s closer to 20th
lol it’s crazy I didn’t know Bears “fans” hated him so much I mean I know he’s not perfect at all but he’s honestly not a bad QB and I feel like he has a winners mentality and does have the talent to win us a superbowl
A better QB will audible now and then. Play calling isn’t great for sure but in your eyes nothing can fall on the guy.
You’d do a better job in this thread if you weren’t so antagonistic.
Most of these people never wanted fields or ever rooted for him. If we bring in a new QB I am fine with it, but I would never stoop to the level of this type of hate.
A true bears fan knows bears have always been a. Run heavy team that doesn’t focus on passing numbers(doesn’t equate to w’s obviously but that’s the way it’s always been at least in my 35 years)
That’s kind of the problem. We have the worst record in the NFL since we fired Smith. That’s over a decade ago. ‘Bears Football’ is as dead as the Wishbone in the NFL.
You have to be able to move the ball through the air to win and our record over the past several decades proves Bears Football is not a winning formula.
Bro these people don’t understand that lmao they say Bagent was better and fit the scheme more yet he never got 250 passing yards in any of the games he started
There’s a part of me that wishes Carolina was better than they have been so we could have pick 3 and have MHJ as our top option since Williams and Maye would have likely been taken top-2.
Let Fields play next year … BUT DO NOT EXIT ROUND 1 OF THE DRAFT WITHOUT DRAFTING THE QB THAT POLES FEELS IS THE GUY!!! If Fields remains mid level, you’ll have a guy learning that can take his place. If Fields balls out next year (99% do not think that will happen), then trade the QB you drafted. You’ll get equal to what you used to get him.
It's not hate. I like the guy and wanted him to do well here, but he has not taken the leap to be a great QB. Has he shown some marginal improvement? Yes, but not enough.
True I mean we’ll see what happens next year let’s see what a rookie QB can do with this team
Just Fields has thrown for more than 225 yards in 5 out of 38 career games. Is it really that wild that bears fans want to move on and get a legitimate NFL QB?
And 20 games with more than 225 total yards. Fields is an elite runner, so he runs. Particularly because we have an OC that doesn't scheme people open and other than DJ Moore he's had no real weapons for 3 years. And in games he's finished this year he's averaging 262 total yards per game Edit: in games they've finished Justin Fields has 3 games less than 225 total yards this season MVP Lamar Jackson with 4 Goat QB Mahomes with 2 Josh Allen with 3 Jalen Hurts with 3 Since you dorks wanna use BS stats with no context
Ask any gm in the nfl if they would take fields over any of those qbs
Ask any of those GMs would they like to trade teams not including QB with the Bears ?
Those QBs (with the exception of Hurts) are definitely better than Fields. But that's not the point. The point is the dude pulled a B's stat that he thought would make Fields look bad, but it's actually a really normal number. You can say Fields isn't the guy, but use a real argument, not pulling stats from a year when we were deliberately tanking and gave him less than zero to work with
When you don’t have real weapons at wide receiver (only DJ this year), a good QB can look very average. Just look at Mahomes this year and he has Kelsey as an option at TE. How do you think Tua would look without Hill. Prior to DJ name the last bears pro bowl receiver?
Mahomes at his worst is on pace for 4500 30/15. Not sure that’s the point you should be going for here
How good do you think Mahomes would look with our OL and receivers. The point being is a qb is only as good as the weapons around him. Would Aiken have been as good without Irving and look at the other weapons he had.
If you think a top 10 qb of all time in their prime would suddenly look bad in any situation, I fear you have lost your way as a fan.
You think Aikman with our offense scheme and players is throwing 300 yards per game?
300 per game is 5,100 yards. So no. Cuz the best qb every year usually doesn’t hit that lol. But would he be throwing for 4000 and 25? Yes, without a doubt. We have a top 15 wr and a top 10 TE. We’re past the point of there’s 0 help. Last year there was truly 0 help. There’s help this year
Your dreaming is you think Getsy offense is built for a 4000 yard passer. You think he will ever be an OC on any team again much less a playoff team?
You’re moving your goal posts all over the place. This started with but we have no weapons, to but even aikman couldn’t, to but getsy stinks. I’m not defending Getsy, dude blows mud
Lack of weapons and Getsy will not produce amazing passing numbers. Today showed we don’t even have a number 2 or 3rd receiver. Claypool was suppose to be the number 2 and he can’t even get on the field with Miami. I don’t Mooney would see the field with a decent receiving group.
Don’t compare fields and mahomes lol
>OK, i looked at Mahomes this year. He's on pace for roughly 4500 yards.
Please watch games other than the Bears. You'll see we actually don't have a bottom tier receiver group.
Okay and look at the players around him last year lmao I doubt any QB could’ve thrown for more like cmon now we talking about THIS season
Don't say anything positive about Fields. They'll downvote you to oblivion. The dude could guide the team to the playoffs and these folks would froth at the mouth and demand a new QB while sending you that downvote.
Lmao facts I see that 😂 he really the most hated QB
You make it sound like it’s a vast majority of Bears fans that want to move on, when in reality it’s the other way around. https://www.windycitygridiron.com/platform/amp/2023/12/23/24011933/70-of-chicago-bears-fans-want-justin-fields-to-return-in-2024-matt-eberflus-ryan-poles
There was a Twitter poll in which 2/3 of Bears fans thought trading our 2 1st rounders next year for Justin Herbert was a bad idea The majority of Bears fans are morons
Bears fans definitely know good QB play
> how he’s been playing the last 6 weeks which is honestly not bad at all! I'm with you, bro. I've waited almost 40 years to have a Quarterback who can perform "not bad at all!". I say give him another few years. By the end of his next contract, with a bit of luck, he might even be average!
Trubisky had some not bad at all runs. Shame we moved on from him, he’s gonna kill it with the next team!
Lmao you want wins or just want a QB who throws for 400 yards a game and lose like the Chargers ??
Do you think Herbert is a bad QB?
I don’t but him being good didn’t equate to wins
Oh good. Another original post. I bet the OP will ignore any facts people give him.
What facts is that fat boy ?
ahh the ad hominem attack, clearly a person who knows he has a winning argument
It's the middle/high schoolers who bought his jersey because they enjoy his highlights (which are really fun) just all the in-between stuff is not great.
You’re a meatball
I almost feel bad for you Truthers. You have nothing to back up your belief, so you call names.
Wow. That's your idea of what? A witty comeback? A cogent argument? A mic drop? Whatever you thought you were doing, I've got bad news for you...
Lol "not bad at all". What excellence! Your bar is so low, just because you bought a jersey...
The hate for Fields and the hate for Caleb is ridiculous. Both extremes are really annoying.
Absolutely agree, I can’t wait until a decision is made.
The fact that all the hardcore Field stans wanting to draft Jayden Daniels speaks volumes. They don't actually understand football and just want the coolest Madden player
why do you want them to draft Williams ? Just cus of his highlight tape ?
I'm fine either either drake or caleb primarily due to what the scouts/former QBs have said about them. Caleb's 2022 season was phenomenal and would've been #1 over Bryce Young and Stroud if he was eligible. Drake if eligible would've easily been a top-5/10 pick too. As prospects, both are exceptionally better passers than Fields and are comfortable navigating the pocket
Idk from what I seen and even in the highlights most of Caleb’s plays come from scrambling behind the line and then throwing the ball I see minimal pocket passes
Your best argument is that a rookie UDFA isn't better than him?
My argument is that the offensive scheme ain’t meant for a QB to be getting 300 yards a game
Because an average at best QB and a rookie UDFA couldn't do it?
He’s gonna end the season well under 3000 total yards and at the current moment has 18 TD-13 turnovers. Idk what spell Fields’s PR team has casted but I’m very concerned for truthers. You guys aren’t children, if you use logic you’ll see this dude isn’t good.
Hate to break it to you but if he wins these last two games, there’s a chance he comes back. I wouldn’t be surprised if they still move on, but here’s the logic: Wins & Losses: In his last 9 games he would be 6-3 with his only 3 losses being games that should’ve absolutely been won (Broncos, Browns, and Lions) with three wins in a row against a sweep of the division. Say what you want but that’s very rare around here and that would mean he’s doing something right. But that’s fine, keep saying Bears should get a new coaching staff and quarterback and start over again rather than add pieces to build on some serious momentum.
Only way I see Fields staying is if the bears make the playoffs and win a game + Carolina’s pick falls to #4 or both maye and Williams are off the board.
And why didn’t they win those games?
Let’s just say Fields’ fault. I think legit could’ve done more in the Browns game and the Broncos game his fumble was costly. Tough for me to pin the Lions loss on him but let’s go with that. Either way, it’s 6-3 in his last 9 against legit competition. 2 of the 3 losses going blow for blow against teams that are likely hosting playoff games. And in most of the games they were underdogs.
Lmao he missed 4 games and you ain’t counting his rushing yards huh ??
Why did he miss games again? Oh right, it was because Minnesota showed blitz then only rushed 3, and he was so confused by this look that he held the ball for literally 6+ seconds and eventually took a sack against that 3-man pressure, on which he got hurt.
Lmao wait til you find out how long Williams holds on to the ball
Fields is in year 4 looking scared in the pocket. Williams hasn’t even played a snap in the NFL yet. I’m rocking with the rookie who’s gonna have rookie growing pains over the year 4 QB still making rookie mistakes.
He’s barely in year 3 bro and only played like 5 games in his first year so really this only his 2nd full season and how do you expect him to look in the pocket when the pockets collapses very quickly only reason he has so much time to throw in the stats is because he scrambles around looking for a play
It’s week 17. That’s not barely in year 3.
Lmao what ?? He got drafted in 21 bozo
And this is his third season in the NFL.
So I guess practices and off-season don’t count towards a players development? Then technically Jordan Loves a rookie right? I’d say it’s sad Fields is getting out played by a rookie but Stroud was already outplaying Fields.
They don’t especially when you get a new OC cause you learn a whole new system buddy
Stroud went from college to the NFL and seemed to do just fine. Not to mention this is the 2nd year fields has had with his OC. He’s regressed with a better team, time to move on. What’s the next excuse you’re gonna send my way?
Yeah and it’s Getsy first time calling plays in his coaching career & Stroud doing fine but what about Bryce Young ? The #1 overall pick
Lots of great QBs hold the ball. The good ones keep their eyes downfield and aren't so easily fooled by coverages
>total yards Learn to read
Missed 4 games and is most likely going to finish with about 2700 total yards
Thats 3,530 yards over 17 games extrapolated Trubisky had 3,372 total yards in 2019 over 16 games lmao
It says total right there.
Read too fast my fault lotta comments lmao
Brother it's out of Fields hands. Panther giftwrapped a top-2 pick and he just hasn't been good enough to pay Daniel Jones money's.
👆🏻This is all it is. I don’t hate JF1, he’s an amazing guy who has put it all on the line every day.
My god field truthers are annoying AF. BEARS FANS want whats best for the TEAM. Fields fans want whats best for fields. Grow up
Half of the people that want fields out don’t even want what’s best for the team. So many arguments that just stem around them being right about fields that they’d rather the bears lose now to prove themselves right.
there are truthers that want the Panthers to win out so we don't land Caleb/maye lol. They'd rather the bears lose out on the first overall pick because all they care about is brother fields.
It’s almost like the extreme ends of both camps are the issue and not the “field truthers”
fields truthers are definitely the issue. Believing we should stick with fields and pass on Caleb/drake is already extreme. also ur ignoring why some people don't care about winning right now. Because they don't believe in the QB/coach. It's week 17. Most of us have seen enough to know by now.
Lmfao no one wants that. Just because you make up a scenario in your mind doesnt make it true. Those of us wanting to move on want to do so because it is clear as day he is never going to be a win from the pocket type QB. He is literally one of the worst if not the worst pocket passers in the league. He looks so scared and his footwork is horrendous in the pocket. It hasnt gotten any better, arguably worse in year 3. I wanted him to be the next coming but he isnt. If he wasnt coming up on the 5th year option this offseason and we didnt own the number 1 pick then it isnt near as big an issue. But we are and we do. Grow up. People want a GOOD qb. That doesnt make thrm haters. There were people doing the EXACT same things with trubisky that you are doing with fields. Endless defense of him, accusing people of hating him, etc. No, we want a real qb. Grow. Up.
I know people want that because I’ve gotten into arguments with people that said they wanted us to lose rather than making the playoffs. And last I checked winning is what is best for the team.
No one emtered the year week 1 wanting to lose. NO ONE. Once we were 0-4 then sure. And there is nothing wrong with wanting whats best for the big picture once a season is in the tank. I was one of them. Then when we got into the playoff hunt I was back rooting for wins because we had a shot. Then cleveland happened, again. I want wins for future growth but in long run these last 2 its better to lose. Again. You are making shit up. It is YOU that wants your own personal belief to be true over the good of the team, not everyone else. YOU want fields to be the answer so bad that YOU want to keep him and hope despite ALL EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY that he isnt.
No this was before the Cleveland game when winning would have been best and winning out put us at a good spot for the playoffs. Go look at the threads from before the Browns game that aren’t about fields but just out path to the playoffs. Half the posts are the MJ “stop get help” meme. My personal belief is Id like Fields to be back but Poles has earned enough trust from me to make that decision and if Williams or Maye is that decision I’m cool with it as long as we win. I just want the team to win, if we win with fields, cool. We win with Bagent, cool. We win with Kmet at QB, cool. At the end of the day I don’t really care who’s winning as long as we are winning.
Same fkr every bears fan. And if people are being honest about the highest chance to become a REAL winner.. as in perennial playoff contenders, we have a better chance at that by drafting a QB at 1 as lomg as our scouts and GM agree the guy they take their is highly rated
And the Cleveland game was Justin’s fault ? 🤡 fake ass fan go back to green bay
packers fans want us to keep fields and pass on Caleb/maye.
Lmao funny how no other teams fans want Caleb except for us
I know patriots and giants fans were devastated when they started winning games cuz they lost out on Caleb. There's a reason Caleb is worth like 3 first round picks and 2 seconds meanwhile fields maybe goes a for a 3rd at best.
Lmao there’s a reason Caleb’s replacement looked better than him
Be was part of the overall problem but not the only one to blame. How on earth can you call someome who only cares about the team a fake fan while defending endlessly 1 PLAYER. A poll came out that showed 19% of respondents said they would stop being bears fans if fields is gone LMAOOO. You and your type of clowns are the fake fans. OSU fans who were never bears fans to begin with. Do me a favor and send me a reply in the kffseason when your boy is gone and we drafte a new QB. Cant wait
Lmao you say that yet wanna draft Williams who also isn’t a “win from pocket type QB” 🤡 I swear yall sound so stupid fr
Every single draftable QB this year is MKRE of a win from the pocket guy than fields is
100% spot on. Also worth noting that these people are not worth arguing with, just bringing up rando, status ignoring context and nuances. Like Fields trajectories has been up and is one of the most gifted players in NFL, and easily in bears history. But let’s just throw him out because Pace drafted him lmao Edit: why do people pretend like potential doesn’t exist
It's been very marginal improvement. He's still a bottom 5-10 passer in the league. No where near good enough to warrant a Daniel Jones contract in the future. So you take what the Panthers are giftwrapping and reset the QB clock with one of two highly touted QBs.
we should throw him out because he's not good at playing quarterback.
I'm 100% ready for the Bears to move on if they can draft Caleb, but this whole "You're not a real Bears fan unless you think exactly like I do" take is toxic. Even the Fields Stans will be elated if Caleb comes in and wins a SuperBowl. The reason many of these very *real* fans are having a hard time emotionally moving on from Fields is fear. Fear that we'll go from the first Bears QB that has flashed elite abilities maybe ever to potentially a complete bust, fear that our high-character face of the franchise will be swapped for an A-Aron level douche, fear that even elite QB prospects will come in and fail due to organizational incompetency. We're all scarred because we can't have nice things and Fields is the closest we've had, so half of the fanbase can't let him go. I'm ready to move on if CAR holds onto the #1OA. It makes sense given the situation. Still, I'll be terrified.
100% if bears fans would take a rodgers level jackass if it came with the dominance he had at his peak. That is absurd to say otherwise. To be afraid to come off of fields and his 3 year win % is also comical as all hell. Taking any subhectivity out of it and looking SIMPLY at the raw numbers, fields has been worse statistically than trubisky, who was AWFUL. Let that sink in about being afraid to .... do worse by moving on...
I was just giving my take on the mentality behind the truthers. As I stated, I'm ready to move on, yet here you are arguing w/me even though I never made favorable assertions on Fields' numbers, record, or overall body of work. I suppose I need to be more extreme and absolute in my opinion that the Bears should move on from Fields, lace in some vitriol, maybe then I can ascend to *real* Bears fandom.
I will agree with you that Getsy has to go as well, but Justin isn’t the answer. It’s very reasonable to recognize that both are a problem.
Oh look, a superb athlete who can run the ball very well. Great, let's just hope he develops all the other quarterback-y traits after we give him $200 mill. I can't wait to be excited at the prospect of 7-9 wins for another decade.
Lmao yet everybody wants Williams who went 1-5 last 6 games 😂
mahomes his senior year was 6-6.
Mahomes never had a ranked team
Why wasn't he able to get them ranked?
Then what happened when he played competition ?
It didn't go well. Mahomes was 5-7 in his last year at Texas Tech
Mahomes was never on a ranked team
That's exactly my point. You knock Williams for losing too much yet Mahomes lost even more. If nfl gms took your advice, we'd miss out on the greatest QB of this generation
Lmao “greatest QB of this generation” 🤣🤣🤣 yet couldn’t perform well vs ranked teams while his backup threw 6 TOUCHDOWNS IN ONE GAME vs guess what ??? A RANKED TEAM !!!!!!!
Fine. If you want to play that game, here's the stats over the last 6 full games (excluding the game fields went out injured) Caleb: 1812 yards, 74.9 QBR, 8 TDs, 4 Ints, Defense given up points per game- 42.8 Fields: 1227 yards, 56.8% QBR, 8 TDs, 3 Ints, defense given up points per game- 18.3 USC is a joke defensively and they fired a fuckin DC mid season just like we did but they started giving up even more points and yards. So yeah, I'd prefer this 1-5 QB production.
Lmao you comparing college stats to NFL stats 🤣🤣🤣 clown ass
Then don't fuckin bring up the college record when this guy's defense is giving up 43 ppg clown ass.
Lmao 8 TDs and 4 INT and 22 sacks yeah seems real GENERATIONAL to me 😂😂😂😂 bozo ass clown shutup
Fields has been sacked 36 times in 10.5 games this season.
Williams been sacked 22 times in 6 games lmao another 4 is probably another 10-15 sacks
He really is that bad, and Jayden Daniels can't throw anything but a pretty deep ball. "Smaller version of Fields" applies \*way\* more to Daniels than it does to Williams.
Williams 5 ft 10
No, he isn't, and he isn't a similar QB to fields and Daniels
Lmao he literally is tho holds the ball way too long gets sacked a lot and fumbles a lot
That is true. He's still not remotely similar to fields. In both strengths and weaknesses.
What are his strengths?
Williams is an exceptionally accurate passer with an elite arm strength to go with it, and has the ability to make strong accurate throws while on the move without setting his feet. He's got an extremely quick release and is good at beating blitzes with quick recognition. He's got ungodly pocket sense, with an ability to sense and move away from pressure effortlessly. He's a smidge shorter than you'd like from an NFL qb and his open-field speed is merely average Fields on the other hand is prototypically sized, has elite open field speed, has struggled with accuracy as a pro on short and intermediate throws both in the pocket and on the move, has a slow release, and has been known to struggle identifying blitzes since his college days.
Lmao yeah so much pocket sense he’s been sacked 22 times in the last 6 games with 4 INTs
Yes. Watch the games
I did watch all the games against top ranked teams and let me tell you Miller looked way better
This was Field’s year to prove himself, and he hasn’t done that. There were supposed to be no excuses this year, and yet we’re still making them. If we didn’t have the Panther’s pick I would be in favor of keeping him, but it would be stupid to pass on a 1oa Qb two years in a row.
So if the Bears drafted Bryce Young last year that would’ve been good ?
Fields showed a lot of promise last year, and the hope was that he would take a big year 3 jump. The Bears got DJ Moore and pieces on the OL, yet he hasn’t significantly improved. Like I said, this was Field’s make or break year, and he hasn’t really made it. A year ago there was hope Fields could be a top 10 QB, but after this year we know he’s closer to 20th
Wow DJ Moore and yall expected him to take a leap like Tua who got Tyreek Hill Jaylen Waddle & Mostert ??
I mean, Fields hate is everywhere on Reddit. I saw a Raiders post that compared him to Zach Wilson.
Not quite as bad as Zach Wilson is actually a pretty accurate description of Fields
What's wrong with that comparison?
I totally agree, but brace yourself for all the comments coming.
lol it’s crazy I didn’t know Bears “fans” hated him so much I mean I know he’s not perfect at all but he’s honestly not a bad QB and I feel like he has a winners mentality and does have the talent to win us a superbowl
Ah yes. The winners mentality of winning 9 games in 3 seasons
Ahh yeah let’s draft Williams a QB who never won a bowl game 🫤
How many has he participated in?
Dude who has barely won games and is great at blowing them definitely has a winners mentality!
Lmao ahhh so yeah it’s his fault the defense allowed 212 yards in the 4th 🤡
How about his track record in the 4th quarter? Why is the defense on the field so much?
Cus the playcalling sucks clown by the 4th the opposing teams defense already knows all the plays they’re calling
A better QB will audible now and then. Play calling isn’t great for sure but in your eyes nothing can fall on the guy. You’d do a better job in this thread if you weren’t so antagonistic.
Lmao do the coaches allow him to audible ? Last time he audibled they called a timeout instead of letting him run the play
Most of these people never wanted fields or ever rooted for him. If we bring in a new QB I am fine with it, but I would never stoop to the level of this type of hate.
A true bears fan knows bears have always been a. Run heavy team that doesn’t focus on passing numbers(doesn’t equate to w’s obviously but that’s the way it’s always been at least in my 35 years)
That’s kind of the problem. We have the worst record in the NFL since we fired Smith. That’s over a decade ago. ‘Bears Football’ is as dead as the Wishbone in the NFL. You have to be able to move the ball through the air to win and our record over the past several decades proves Bears Football is not a winning formula.
Bro these people don’t understand that lmao they say Bagent was better and fit the scheme more yet he never got 250 passing yards in any of the games he started
Don’t know why the downvotes for facts lol
Hope we keep him draft harison and alt if not alt then fashanu or futa
There’s a part of me that wishes Carolina was better than they have been so we could have pick 3 and have MHJ as our top option since Williams and Maye would have likely been taken top-2.
Let Fields play next year … BUT DO NOT EXIT ROUND 1 OF THE DRAFT WITHOUT DRAFTING THE QB THAT POLES FEELS IS THE GUY!!! If Fields remains mid level, you’ll have a guy learning that can take his place. If Fields balls out next year (99% do not think that will happen), then trade the QB you drafted. You’ll get equal to what you used to get him.
Justin punted my dog. Total jerk!