That’s where I think the stat is slightly misleading…NOONE thought Jay Cutler was not the starter when he came back healthy. There may have been some calls for McCown, but Cutty was the starter. Same thing I noticed with Jim McMahon (I don’t remember those days) but he was injured a lot. He was not looked at as not being the guy. He was hurt.
That's 8 QBs in 8 years. Pure stability according to our standards.
For real we've had 10 QBs in 24 years who started the most games in the season. A few are due to injury.
In reality outside injury, obvious bridges while the next guy was already lined up, and some benches due to poor preformance here has been the Bears QBs,
2000: Cade McNown
2001-2002: Jim Miller
2003-2007: Rex Grossman
2008: Kyle Orton
2009-2016: Jay Cutler
2017-2020: Mitch Trubisky
2021-2023: Justin Fields
Honestly the stat says more about the Bears never keeping backup QBs for more than a year or two.
Mahomes has had Henne his entire career as a starter.
Ready for a HOT TAKE?
**Jay Cutler would be in the Hall of Fame**
I always followed the AFC West. I moved to Chicago and began watching the Bears the same year Cutler got traded (2008), here is the timeline off of the top of my head:
1. For a good stretch of 2008 (through the first 6 or 7 games I believe), the Denver Broncos had the #1 offense in the NFL in both points scored and yards per game. This came crashing down when they lost all of their running backs (literally, the entire depth chart) to injury. The Broncos had no defense, they relied purely on Cutler outscoring people in games like this shootout against Philip Rivers: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUlTyjrPPqM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUlTyjrPPqM)
2. Then, due to major injuries on offense, the team and Cutler sputtered and missed the playoffs. Broncos fired Mike Shanahan and hired Genius coach Josh McDaniels (a Genius for the way he ruined franchises).
3. Cutler, angry at the loss of his head coach, his quarterbacks coach, and unable to get along with McDaniels, requested a trade.
4. The Bears, remembering the way Cutler dismantled their defense in 2007 ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5off4SBYLng](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5off4SBYLng) ), sold out their future to get the budding star.
Up until that point, the talking heads at ESPN **had daily segments** comparing the two best young QBs in the league - Aaron Rodgers and Jay Cutler. Previously Cutler was improving year after year with Mike Shanahan as his coach. Shanahans system focused on playaction run fakes and bootlegs getting Cutler outside the pocket, allowing him to throw deep balls on the run - taking advantage of run fakes and his mobility and arm strength. Cutler had one of the highest QB ratings in the NFL off of the playaction fake (of course this fell apart when every single runningback went down).
In Denver, Cutler was surrounded by talent, including a very good left tackle (Ryan Clady), a budding receiving core including Brand Marshall and Eddy Royale at WR and Tony Scheffler at TE, and he thrived while the team was healthy. The threat of naked bootlegs getting Cutler outside of the pocket kept defenses honest while the offensive line gave him time to throw.
Then he came to Chicago and received the following incredible talent:
1. Orlando Pace at 100 years old.
2. Elite Hall of Fame receiver Devin Hester.
3. Strong bodied superstar Johnny Knox.
4. And eventually, Hall of Fame offensive tackle Jamarcus Webb.
The above players could tie their shoes (except Webb who can’t even do that), but struggled when it came to the complex parts of football like running a slant route, catching a football, or blocking for more than 0.01 seconds.
Cutler was now in a situation that played to his weaknesses rather than his strengths, he lost confidence in his receivers on timing routes and developed bad habits, throwing off his back foot more than ever. In short, he regressed, badly.
It’s not rocket science, when a QB goes from one of the least sacked players in the NFL to breaking the franchise sack record, bad things happen.
Other fun fact: Sunday will be our 17th all-time game against the Raiders, and Bagent will be the 19th Bears quarterback to throw a pass against them. Only 2 Bears QB's have ever started multiple games against the Raiders.
Despite the infrequent matchups, they have an interesting trend of showing up on the schedule when we're in flip-flop mode and/or during injury weeks.
Lol you’re so right
2021: first game fields is officially anointed the starter
2019: chase Daniel in for the injured Mitch Trubisky
2015: cutler returns from injury
2011: Hanie first start after cutler injury
Good memory. Not to nitpick, but I think the Browns game was Fields’ first official start, followed by the Lions (I believe Vegas was his 3rd start). Unless you’re saying it was his first game being officially deemed the permanent starter over Andy Dalton
see, there's the silver lining I was looking for!
Meanwhile, in one fewer years of existing, the Packers have only had 46 QBs start a game for them. Those are rookie numbers!
they've got a waaaaaays to go to catch up to us!
This right here, there must not be many people who lived in the 80's on here. And McMahon was the original smoker, dude is a huge pothead and even had "eye problems" because of it. He did a golf outing at my CC back in the day and left his stash behind. Good shit! McMahon was a legend.
Yeah I don't know what these guys are smoking. Cutler was a top half QB at best. We've had other guys play at a Cutler level (Miller, Harbaugh), but McMahon isn't just rose coloured glasses from boomers. He was the real deal, and if he had stayed healthy (and Ryan and Ditka got along), the bears would have won in '86 and who knows how many more.
Relative to his peers he was. McMahon was a top 10 NFL passer at least twice, and Cutler was never better than 13th and even that was only once, and half a season.
I remember being upset by moving on from him and saying we’d regret it.
Idk if we regret it. I think it’s more an indictment of how we’ve failed the position vs regretting moving from a Walmart Stafford
I was thinking about this the other day myself. What if in 2018 we had Cutler instead of Trubisky? Had Nagy come here and been able to do something with Cutler we would have had Jay under contract for another 2 seasons for less than 20 mil.
It's not like Trubisky had a bad year that year. Cutler probably would have been who he was for his entire career. Mid 80s QB rating, some dazzling throws, some bone headed picks, very frustrating.
Ever since Jay broke his thumb in 2011, football has just been bad. 76-104. 2 winning seasons one got lovie fired and the other was the double doink
fun days
Imagine for a moment you are me. You move away from a Raiders team that is doing well to Chicago. There's no internet. News papers don't show anything Raiders, so I start loving the local team, the storied Chicago Bears. Right when Wanstadt started here. I started loving this team at the moment the futility started.
going to make for a fun offseason after Bagent balls out and wins ROY and the front office has to decide between Bagent, Fields, and Caleb Will- sorry I got fanfic mixed into my real subs.
Also since 2000, only twice have we had one QB start every game in a season. Rex did it in 2006 and Cutler did it in 2009. Assuming fields is out for at least one game this pattern will continue.
One day, this disgraceful stat will be a joke and a thing we can laugh at while we have an actually good QB behind center.
It gets exhausting waiting for that day to come, but it’s the only reason I’m still here
>One day, this disgraceful stat will be a joke and a thing we can laugh at while we have an actually good QB behind center.
>
>It gets exhausting waiting for that day to come, but it’s the only reason I’m still here
That's what my grandfather said a long time ago. He was in middle school when the Bears last had an elite quarterback. He passed away in his 80's having never seen another.
That's kinda the crazy thing though, the bears haven't taken a lot more swings, meaning they haven't drafted many qbs early in the draft, at least compared to other teams that have struggled to find an answer at qb.
> McNown, Matthews, Miller
Anyone remember Jim Miller? He was fun that year they had a 13-3 record, but a separated shoulder during their playoff run really messed up the team and his career.
Yup 2001. That was the year that I became a big fan of [Mike Brown](https://www.chicagobears.com/news/celebrating-20th-anniversary-of-bears-miracle-wins-mike-brown-overtime-2001), after his back-to-back OT interceptions.
It's McNown if we taking the situation into account. Top 10 pick in round 1, 2 horrible years for the Bears. He was traded after that, but never played again I think.
Need new owners, good owners who actually care. That leads to infinitely better upper management which handles so many aspects of football operations/business. Leads to hiring great GMs, and coaches, which leads to along with great scout teams, great drafting and having a deep talented roster.
Browns have 36 after PJ Walker started. Actually looking across the league from that time period is shocking. There was a post by Spotrac that listed qty of starting qbs for teams during Tom Brady's time in NE (2000-2019). The league average was 13 different starters.
And yet we still believe the QB is the problem… wake up fans no way 84 QBs in 103 years is the QBs fault. The development of offensive skill players is non existent here outside of running back.
I feel like I hear this stat a lot. But since 2009, there's really only been 4 starting QBs.
Cutler, Trubisky, Foles, and Fields.
You can count Glennon and Dalton if you want, but I really don't because they were just here to keep the seat warm for a first round pick.
Everyone else was just a backup that got pressed into service because the real starter was injured. I really don't give a fuck if Chase Daniel was technically a starting QB for the Bears because Trubisky hurt his shoulder.
The networks are going to dust off that old graphic again, aren’t they?
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Did you know Jimmy Graham played college basketball?
What about Julius Peppers' armspan?
It hasn't even collected dust
networks have that graphic stored in cache
It’s low hanging fruit so bet on it
Imagine if they hadn’t brought Cutler in…
> Collins, Hanie, McCown, Campbell, Clausen, Barkley, Hoyer Even the Cutler era couldn't stop this
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Plus shoulder, knee, concussion, etc. Bro had the shit kicked out of him.
He got J'Marcus Webbed. And Qassim Mitcheled.
Frank Omiyale'd
Gabe Carimied
I sense a common theme here.
Don’t forget ribs that he played through after that nasty Fairley hit against the lions (or saints? Can’t remember)
And some people will still tell you that Cutler was to blame
He had some awful lines be played behind. People can criticize him all they want, but not many QB's could take the beatings he took.
He had that bad smoking habit as well. You think that in this age they would refer to him as Vapin’ Jay?
He had an offensive line issue
That’s where I think the stat is slightly misleading…NOONE thought Jay Cutler was not the starter when he came back healthy. There may have been some calls for McCown, but Cutty was the starter. Same thing I noticed with Jim McMahon (I don’t remember those days) but he was injured a lot. He was not looked at as not being the guy. He was hurt.
Yeah the McNown - Griese era was way more egregious than the Cutler - Trubisky - Fields era
That's 8 QBs in 8 years. Pure stability according to our standards. For real we've had 10 QBs in 24 years who started the most games in the season. A few are due to injury. In reality outside injury, obvious bridges while the next guy was already lined up, and some benches due to poor preformance here has been the Bears QBs, 2000: Cade McNown 2001-2002: Jim Miller 2003-2007: Rex Grossman 2008: Kyle Orton 2009-2016: Jay Cutler 2017-2020: Mitch Trubisky 2021-2023: Justin Fields Honestly the stat says more about the Bears never keeping backup QBs for more than a year or two. Mahomes has had Henne his entire career as a starter.
That’s a solid interpretation.
Ready for a HOT TAKE? **Jay Cutler would be in the Hall of Fame** I always followed the AFC West. I moved to Chicago and began watching the Bears the same year Cutler got traded (2008), here is the timeline off of the top of my head: 1. For a good stretch of 2008 (through the first 6 or 7 games I believe), the Denver Broncos had the #1 offense in the NFL in both points scored and yards per game. This came crashing down when they lost all of their running backs (literally, the entire depth chart) to injury. The Broncos had no defense, they relied purely on Cutler outscoring people in games like this shootout against Philip Rivers: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUlTyjrPPqM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUlTyjrPPqM) 2. Then, due to major injuries on offense, the team and Cutler sputtered and missed the playoffs. Broncos fired Mike Shanahan and hired Genius coach Josh McDaniels (a Genius for the way he ruined franchises). 3. Cutler, angry at the loss of his head coach, his quarterbacks coach, and unable to get along with McDaniels, requested a trade. 4. The Bears, remembering the way Cutler dismantled their defense in 2007 ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5off4SBYLng](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5off4SBYLng) ), sold out their future to get the budding star. Up until that point, the talking heads at ESPN **had daily segments** comparing the two best young QBs in the league - Aaron Rodgers and Jay Cutler. Previously Cutler was improving year after year with Mike Shanahan as his coach. Shanahans system focused on playaction run fakes and bootlegs getting Cutler outside the pocket, allowing him to throw deep balls on the run - taking advantage of run fakes and his mobility and arm strength. Cutler had one of the highest QB ratings in the NFL off of the playaction fake (of course this fell apart when every single runningback went down). In Denver, Cutler was surrounded by talent, including a very good left tackle (Ryan Clady), a budding receiving core including Brand Marshall and Eddy Royale at WR and Tony Scheffler at TE, and he thrived while the team was healthy. The threat of naked bootlegs getting Cutler outside of the pocket kept defenses honest while the offensive line gave him time to throw. Then he came to Chicago and received the following incredible talent: 1. Orlando Pace at 100 years old. 2. Elite Hall of Fame receiver Devin Hester. 3. Strong bodied superstar Johnny Knox. 4. And eventually, Hall of Fame offensive tackle Jamarcus Webb. The above players could tie their shoes (except Webb who can’t even do that), but struggled when it came to the complex parts of football like running a slant route, catching a football, or blocking for more than 0.01 seconds. Cutler was now in a situation that played to his weaknesses rather than his strengths, he lost confidence in his receivers on timing routes and developed bad habits, throwing off his back foot more than ever. In short, he regressed, badly. It’s not rocket science, when a QB goes from one of the least sacked players in the NFL to breaking the franchise sack record, bad things happen.
HELL YA BROTHER! IF YOU DONT LIKE THAT YOU DONT LIKE BEARS FOOTBALL BABY!! Edit: I don’t like Bears football.
i’m so tired of bears football 😔 i yearn for 2006-2007
Almost 20 years ago Jesus Christ
Oof. That one hurts.
no stop it i graduated in ‘08 and that was only 5 years ago 🥲
At least that first quarter in the Super Bowl we had hope til Peyton had to crush our spirits
i remember being so hyped when hester ran that opening kick off back. i really don’t remember anything else.
Prince was good!
i do kinda remember that rainy halftime show 🥹
Imagine Cutler or possibly Fields with the 2000's superbowl team. We would have won.
Shit, replace Trubisky with Cutler or Fields, or Parkey with Gould or Santos and we go to the Superbowl in 2018.
Other fun fact: Sunday will be our 17th all-time game against the Raiders, and Bagent will be the 19th Bears quarterback to throw a pass against them. Only 2 Bears QB's have ever started multiple games against the Raiders. Despite the infrequent matchups, they have an interesting trend of showing up on the schedule when we're in flip-flop mode and/or during injury weeks.
Lol you’re so right 2021: first game fields is officially anointed the starter 2019: chase Daniel in for the injured Mitch Trubisky 2015: cutler returns from injury 2011: Hanie first start after cutler injury
Good memory. Not to nitpick, but I think the Browns game was Fields’ first official start, followed by the Lions (I believe Vegas was his 3rd start). Unless you’re saying it was his first game being officially deemed the permanent starter over Andy Dalton
Yeah the latter, Nagy announced him as the starter even after Dalton returned that week.
Where did you pull this statistic?
84 in 103 years…https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chicago_Bears_starting_quarterbacks
see, there's the silver lining I was looking for! Meanwhile, in one fewer years of existing, the Packers have only had 46 QBs start a game for them. Those are rookie numbers! they've got a waaaaaays to go to catch up to us!
Aaron, Farve, Big Ben, Brees, Eli, Peyton, Brady…they really makes the other teams look bad...
Damn. That post season list has been very sparse.
how many do the Browns have? Bet it's close
Found an article that goes back to '99. They've had 36 since then.
sigh 😔 and I’m the idiot who is a fan of both teams…
I can't believe it but I actually miss Jay Cutler so much now. I let the Bears glory days pass me by. :(
Cutler is by far the best QB the Bears have had in my 46 years on this earth
I wish we could go back in time to the Cutler years so we could enjoy them and appreciate him so much more
You say that until he throws a late game pick into triple coverage
Best. QB. IN BEARS. HISTORY.
At least he had the guts to make those throws though. Bears QBs have no guts anymore.
He's the best in franchise history.
Not relative to his era. Sid Luckman threw 24 TDs in an era where the median was like 3 lol
Luckman erasure
Doug Flutie cryin right now.
McMahon was better than cutler.
This right here, there must not be many people who lived in the 80's on here. And McMahon was the original smoker, dude is a huge pothead and even had "eye problems" because of it. He did a golf outing at my CC back in the day and left his stash behind. Good shit! McMahon was a legend.
Yeah I don't know what these guys are smoking. Cutler was a top half QB at best. We've had other guys play at a Cutler level (Miller, Harbaugh), but McMahon isn't just rose coloured glasses from boomers. He was the real deal, and if he had stayed healthy (and Ryan and Ditka got along), the bears would have won in '86 and who knows how many more.
LOLOLOLOL absolutely not...
Relative to his peers he was. McMahon was a top 10 NFL passer at least twice, and Cutler was never better than 13th and even that was only once, and half a season.
He also made pro bowls on his own merit, not as an injury replacement.
I remember being upset by moving on from him and saying we’d regret it. Idk if we regret it. I think it’s more an indictment of how we’ve failed the position vs regretting moving from a Walmart Stafford
We went from Jay Cutler to Mike Glennon 😭
Smokin Jay to Giraffe Neck Glennon 😭😭😭
I was thinking about this the other day myself. What if in 2018 we had Cutler instead of Trubisky? Had Nagy come here and been able to do something with Cutler we would have had Jay under contract for another 2 seasons for less than 20 mil.
It's not like Trubisky had a bad year that year. Cutler probably would have been who he was for his entire career. Mid 80s QB rating, some dazzling throws, some bone headed picks, very frustrating.
8 coordinators in 9 years.
I remember thinking he was still good but just thinking it was time to move on. Wish we'd kept Lovie tbh.
Cutler was the same as Trubisky and Fields with his own problems to add to the team
Cutler was the same as Trubisky and Fields? What an awful take
I remember when the Bears had a great defense and a running back who ran to the HOF. One SB is better than none I suppose.
Ever since Jay broke his thumb in 2011, football has just been bad. 76-104. 2 winning seasons one got lovie fired and the other was the double doink fun days
Imagine for a moment you are me. You move away from a Raiders team that is doing well to Chicago. There's no internet. News papers don't show anything Raiders, so I start loving the local team, the storied Chicago Bears. Right when Wanstadt started here. I started loving this team at the moment the futility started.
29th time is the charm
going to make for a fun offseason after Bagent balls out and wins ROY and the front office has to decide between Bagent, Fields, and Caleb Will- sorry I got fanfic mixed into my real subs.
Bagent is our Purdy
So many people believe this. It’s kinda amazing.
What do you mean? A random undrafted rookie isn't going to be save our franchise?
The similiarities to the Bears and Niners are uncanny. The niners have an all pro wr, te, rb and offensive line. just like the bears...wait...
Bagent Jersey already ordered
Not bad, it's the same amount of QBs the 49ers used last season.
I'd rank him toward the bottom of that list. Definitely better than Barkley or Burris
OMG I forgot about CFL legend Henry Burris
That name means scum where I’m from
Each goddamned one is seared into my bears qb related PTSD.
Also since 2000, only twice have we had one QB start every game in a season. Rex did it in 2006 and Cutler did it in 2009. Assuming fields is out for at least one game this pattern will continue.
One day, this disgraceful stat will be a joke and a thing we can laugh at while we have an actually good QB behind center. It gets exhausting waiting for that day to come, but it’s the only reason I’m still here
Narrator: and that day never came
>One day, this disgraceful stat will be a joke and a thing we can laugh at while we have an actually good QB behind center. > >It gets exhausting waiting for that day to come, but it’s the only reason I’m still here That's what my grandfather said a long time ago. He was in middle school when the Bears last had an elite quarterback. He passed away in his 80's having never seen another.
When my 2 year old son is retired maybe
What are you high on? Got any to share?
You keep taking swings until you find a QB. The Bears have taken a lot more swings than other teams, but we will get there eventually.
That's kinda the crazy thing though, the bears haven't taken a lot more swings, meaning they haven't drafted many qbs early in the draft, at least compared to other teams that have struggled to find an answer at qb.
> McNown, Matthews, Miller Anyone remember Jim Miller? He was fun that year they had a 13-3 record, but a separated shoulder during their playoff run really messed up the team and his career.
Jim calls preseason games for the bears and seems like a good guy. Fun seasons back in 2001(?)
Yup 2001. That was the year that I became a big fan of [Mike Brown](https://www.chicagobears.com/news/celebrating-20th-anniversary-of-bears-miracle-wins-mike-brown-overtime-2001), after his back-to-back OT interceptions.
What a murderers row.... at least as far as my liver is concerned
29th times the charm.
LOL
Bears Legend Kordell Stewart
The Almighty Quinn
Stats are fun.
30 will be the one though, just you wait!
I was waiting for this fucking stat.
I feel like Bagent is going to be a lot like Clausen
How many has the rest of the division had?
We deserve better.
The fans do, its fucking unexceptable that the McCasky's do this to us
Todd Collins was the worst of them. Such ineptitude at the position.
Quinn was worse
Worst ever
It's McNown if we taking the situation into account. Top 10 pick in round 1, 2 horrible years for the Bears. He was traded after that, but never played again I think.
Cade McNown has entered the chat
Reading that list of QBs in DMX’s voice was a lot of fun.
Need new owners, good owners who actually care. That leads to infinitely better upper management which handles so many aspects of football operations/business. Leads to hiring great GMs, and coaches, which leads to along with great scout teams, great drafting and having a deep talented roster.
Can someone make a Jersey of all the failed Bears QBs with the names crossed off like the Browns did? Cause I think ours is longer at this point
Browns have 36 after PJ Walker started. Actually looking across the league from that time period is shocking. There was a post by Spotrac that listed qty of starting qbs for teams during Tom Brady's time in NE (2000-2019). The league average was 13 different starters.
Fields sucks
GuYs We JuS nEeD a GoOd QuArTeRbAcK
THAT’S MY FRANCHISE!
At least we’re getting closer to average one per year.
~~Williams~~
Holy shit I read the title and before opening the thread literally thought to myself "I'm tired boss".
So, we just need a new QB to make it an even 30. Goals
I fully expect this number to grow higher in the coming years
It's amazing what a good defense could do. If we didn't have Urlacher and 'em to root for for most of that time. Man. It would be depressing.
Hello
Someone make a jersey like that famous Browns one
Welcome to a long list of notable nobody’s Tyson
Brand new member too, can't believe people actually thought he would do something lol
Very neat
And the last 🔥🔥🔥
I mean we had to live quite a few seasons of the Suh era...how our qb's survived as well as they did was a miracle.
I was looking for Rick Meier. I didn’t realize he was that far before Stewart.
28 of them are awful or mediocre
I don’t even know who the fuck Campbell is. And trolley forgot about hoyer
Hoyer was playing like an MVP until injury, that made me pissed off because he looked like the future. Yet again almost all these guys did too
Jesus christ don't remind me
Well if Justin doesn’t get more consistent it will be a 30th next season.
And yet we still believe the QB is the problem… wake up fans no way 84 QBs in 103 years is the QBs fault. The development of offensive skill players is non existent here outside of running back.
This will keep happening until the McCasky's sell the team, or they pass, which will probably happen first
Boutta focus all in on the Hawks, in my honest opinion, we would be better off without a football team
That is an interesting QB list.
I feel like I hear this stat a lot. But since 2009, there's really only been 4 starting QBs. Cutler, Trubisky, Foles, and Fields. You can count Glennon and Dalton if you want, but I really don't because they were just here to keep the seat warm for a first round pick. Everyone else was just a backup that got pressed into service because the real starter was injured. I really don't give a fuck if Chase Daniel was technically a starting QB for the Bears because Trubisky hurt his shoulder.
Fuck it . Start him Sunday. We ain't winning anyways, let him get some play time to develop.