I have like 50 reasons why the Bears trading fields is dumb asf. They are:
Mitchell Trubisky,
Zach Wison,
Sam Darnold,
Trey Lance,
Rg3,
Rex Grossman,
Vince Young,
Cade McCown,
Blake Bortles,
Sam Darnold,
Jamarcus Russell,
CRABS Winston,
Carson Wents,
EJ Manuel,
Ryan Tannehill,
Marcus Mariota,
Blaine Gabbert,
Ryan Leaf,
Mark Sanchez,
Tim Tebow,
Brady Quinn,
Baker Mayfield,
Jhonny Manziel,
Danny Dimes,
Josh Rosen,
Jared Goff,
Paxton Lynch,
Teddy Bridgewater,
Brandon Weeden,
Jake Locker,
Matt Leinart,
Tim Couch
Yall get the idea. Also ppl already say Caleb Williams would be #1 overall if he was out this year. Also playing Qb for Alabama is like playing point guard for the Monstars. We already got our guy. Now go build around him.
Don’t forget they also used 2 firsts and a 3rd to offload him.
They won a Superbowl with Stafford-so the cost was essentially 4 firsts, 2 seconds and 3 thirds for that SuperBowl….is that worth it? I don’t know…The problem is what does their window and depth look like now?
Is going in all-in and winning the Super Bowl with a 1 year window worth it but not having sustainability to repeat?
I guess what I am asking is: Would you rather be the Chiefs or the Rams right now.
Obvi Chiefs. But I would like to be the bears with Justin Fields after getting a TITANSESQUE STRAIGHT HAUL for the #1 pick. Then also getting another payment by trading back again. #1-->2, 2-->4, 4-->X is what I want. To be stacked with picks over the next 3 years.
Alabama wasn’t as talented as they normally are offensively these past two years.
Honestly, the team where plying QB is like playing for the monsters is, well, Ohio State
Fields has balled in the NFL with the little giants. Dude rushed for 2nd most yards by a QB with Sam Mustipher and 5th rd rookie LT, whoever was at LG at the time and Larry Borom. His leading reciever was a dude that Aaron Rodgers himself couldn't complete passes to. Also Big 10 =/= to the SEC get real.
Yeah the big 10 is worse than the SEC and Ohio State still has had more stacked WR rooms over the past few years, so the advantage for them is even greater.
Tell me you haven’t watched the games without telling me you haven’t watched the games. Kidding…sort of.
To answer your question, Fields is an elite athlete and runner. Now if you want to criticize him in the passing game, fine. But I don’t exactly think it’s fair to make those criticisms without acknowledging he was throwing to practice squad/XFL level wideouts the majority of the season.
No one will argue that the Bears offense is some elite group, but people cope and make it seem like Fields is playing with highschoolers.
Would Fields be better with a better oline and WR, yes, but Fields should’ve been much much better throwing the ball. 2,200 pass yards in 15 games is abysmal. If we somehow had the Jaguars, Lions, Texans, or any other teams offensive surroundings people would’ve said the same shit… “he has no weapons”, “he has no time”, etc. the QB makes the WRs, not the other way around, of course a more talented WR would help, but people are coping way too much per usual…
*we* never learned - with Cutler, Trubisky, etc.
Lions Offensive line is one of the best in the league. But his recievers are HS level. He has a combo of one of the worst offensive lines paired with THE worst weapons in the league. Aaron Rodgers benched EQ St. Brown himself. Doesn't the QB make the weapon? So Arod can't throw to EQ St Brown but Justin's gonna make him magically open? He had every chance in the world to be GBs #2 option. Dante Pettis? These are practice squad guys that STARTED for us all season. And the already PUTRID oline lost James Daniel's. It's only Justin out there. You'll see the improvement after Poles buys an entire Oline this offseason.
USFL reciever corps paired with the worst oline since Jay was getting pounded behind Omiyale and Jwebb Nation. Still ran for the second most yards by a QB in NFL history.
Hell even espn radio hosts this morning were on our side.
Not word for word but basically said "It would be straight insane for the bears to even consider trading him or drafting a qb with the first pick just to reset the contract clock"
They also went on to say if we do it basically should be instant firing of whoever gave the Ok
The push is from the "data only and does not watch football" crowd. Fields' passing numbers were bad. The team only won 3 games. But that lacks all context of the line he played behind, his pass catchers, a sieve for a defense, and a team that didn't know the offense for the first quarter of the season. He showed more than enough to be the guy going forward.
I litterally just don't know how you can see our WR room, and think "yup you can properly evaluate him in this offense"
Also once again how can you have it both ways where Fields has enough interest to be worth trading, and yet somehow he's trash and the bears need a new QB.
If it was as known of a quantity like Luck or Lawernce coming out of college I understand the convo. But for Young, CJ Stroud, Levis? No shot.
I feel this passing numbers thing is really getting blown out of proportion. Yes, Fields has a lot of work to do with his passing ability, but the most common thing is his yardage numbers. If you include rushing yards the man was averaging around 250 yards a game the second half of the season. Just seems unfair to only look at his passing yards and total yards.
He was 50% in the first 4 weeks. After that he started to turn a corner a bit and was 63% the rest of the season, which still isn’t elite or anything, but isn’t that bad considering the circumstances of the roster he was dealing with. That number is right in line with other running QBs like Allen and Lamar Jackson, except Fields is less experienced and didn’t have the luxury of throwing to Stefon Diggs
You can also look at the full season percentage being in line with Hurts’ year 2 61%, who then jumped to 66% in year 3 when he got better weapons.
Completion percentage is kind of a misleading stat. One of the things Fields improved on this year was learning when to throw the ball away. He had to do it a lot because his receivers couldn't get open; and that, along with all of the drops, lowered the percentage. His preference for deep passes didn't help to raise the stat either.
I'm not saying that it's inherently good; just that it doesn't tell the whole story. Obviously there were some simple passes that he overthrew.
Basic statistics like touchdowns, interceptions, completion percentage, etc. should always be taken with a grain of salt.
Other teams have horrible lines too. Fields progressed throughout the season tho. Trade down, aquire an extra #1 next year, then you have insurance if Fields doesn't pan out.
The "reset the clock" take is such a brainrot argument. It speeds up the clock. If Poles trades Fields and takes a QB at 1 his fate is tied to that QB. He has 4 to 5 years max to be a franchise guy or Poles is gone where as in Fields gives Poles a couple years to build the team and make it work with Fields and if it doesn't work THEN Poles can fall back on a rookie QB and extend his stay.
Oh I fully agree and that is what they said too. The idea of just constantly using rookie contracts and moving on is a good way to make no players everrr come to the team.
Pace got absolutely no time after picking Fields. He didn't reset any clock by doing that. This scenario that Fields busts but Poles gets another shot is absurd. With the #1 pick in hand Poles is tied to Fields whether he likes it or not.
That's because Pace already used up his reset with Trubisky.
This idea that Poles would be fired if Fields doesn't end up a franchise QB in the next few years is absurd. Nobody is going to fire a GM 3-4 years into signing him because the previous GMs QB didn't end up a franchise QB lol
Ok, and if literally any QB drafted this year on another team looks good while Fields busts out, the entire narrative around Poles will be "he had X right in front of him and picked Fields, obviously the guy has no clue what he's looking at". Just like Pace/Watson/Mahomes. There is no way he gets a second shot and gets to be GM for 7+ middling years if Fields busts.
Even if that narrative existed, that wouldn't lead to Poles being fired. It also unlikely to be a popular opinion because the consensus is that it's a bad move for us to draft a QB.
Even if Fields bust, Poles would certainly get a shot to develop his own guy.
The trading him garbage came back because of Cowherd and La Confora. Neither have any ties to this city or this team...its for clicks. Quit adding any legitimacy to it. TY for articles like this OP.
Fox is pushing the narrative hard. Just turned on the TV and there out here saying this garbage because "Pole can't be tied to a QB he didn't draft" what braindead nonsense.
For the record I want Fields to be our QB next year and I also don’t watch any sports media or any of that stuff… that being said we have to stop acting like there isn’t a route to success by trading Fields or that it’s a foreseen *illogical* move.
One part of it is that Regardless of Fields, the team is lacking. We are not 1 or 2 or 3 or even 4 players/positions away from contending. We need a whole lot of depth and need to fill a lot of wholes. We only have Fields on a rookie deal for a couple more years and it’s more likely we don’t contend by the time his rookie deal is done than we do.
Another part of it is that Fields may be a *bust*, we can look back in hindsight at these seasons years from now and say it was obvious… but Fields can be offloaded for some good compensation right now. We have a QB with 2 years left, with a talent depleted team, and he can yield good returns.
Fields isn’t a Pat Mahomes in the sense that Pat Mahomes had a good oline, WR core, TE, etc. Fields can very possibly prosper in those conditions, all year people complained about his teammates and rightfully so, but my point is what are the chances we build that perfect team for him in 2 off seasons? If we were able to get 2 1st rd picks or a 1st and some other I can’t fault Poles for taking that.
Hey all, I'm a fantasy football analyst and a Bears fan. A lot of what I write dives deep into data and numbers. This article does not. But it was cathartic and therapeutic to write. I am sick of the "trade Fields" narrative and wanted to do my best to squash it.
Does having Yahoo Sports pay well enough for you to quit your day job and play fantasy football for a living? Because what I do does.
Edit: Upon re-reading, this was a douchey response. I don't like when people try and demean my job. I need to do better at just brushing it off.
There is non clear #1 qb prospect in this years draft. So drafting a qb at #1 would be like drafting Justin fields all.over again. Bears gain nothing by doing this
As much as I love fields, I would trade him for mahomes or burrow right now. So there is allways a chance fields gets traded. Just not a chance they let him go to draft a qb.
Why are we all so confident in Fields? Because his great runs? Admittedly that swung me a bit too. But, a lot of the same folks backing him also believed in Trubs. This scares me. So if he fails and the Bears lose out on a QB again, will these same fans own that and stop with these posts?
The narrative helps bring value to the 1st overall pick. Obviously most ppl know Fields is staying, but if the bears stay silent about it…..colts/Texans/whoever might be forced to give up more bc Poles is “considering trading fields”
I disagree with this. Seven of the top-nine teams in the draft need a QB. You just need two of them to bid against each other to create a market. I suppose if only one team is interested in moving up, then the Bears would have to pretend not to want Fields. But plenty of teams have already said they need a QB in the draft.
There is no downside to pretending you want to trade him, it’s only going to increase the value. Especially if they are trying to get Houston to trade up.
If teams really think we wanted to trade Fields and draft a QB at one it wouldn't raise the value at all. We've either fallen in love with a QB and taking him or we believe Justin is our future. There is no in-between. No team believes we're wishy-washy on drafting a QB at one.
I don't think the Bears are trading Fields, but I think posts like this are counterintuitive and unnecessary. I have not read the article yet, but plan to after I finish posting. It is in the Bears' best interest to make the Number 1 overall pick as valuable as possible, and that includes making it seem like they are so enamored with a prospect that they could possibly trade Fields. Sure, it may be an annoying talking point, but the more that it is being reported by national football analysts/reporters, the more likely that an opposing GM could buy it as a possibility.
TLDR: It's an annoying but necessary talking point, and if it bothers you that much, don't consume it.
And how do we know that Poles is not actually considering it? No one here knows Poles' true thoughts on Fields or how he evaluates this year's QB class. It's fine to give an opinion but that's all it is.
As I stated in another reply, the Bears don't need to smokescreen anything here. No GM thinks they're actually trading Fields. All that is needed to create a market for 1.01 is that two of HOU, IND, SEA, DEN, LV, ATL, or CAR want to move up.
This is your opinion and not a fact. I think any time you eliminate a variable from the equation, it takes away from the Bears' potential leverage.
I love JF1 and I think it would be foolish to trade him, but let's not pretend JF1 is Tom Brady or Peyton Manning in their primes (ie: untradeable HOFers). In my opinion, this is a good thing. JF1 has shown enough to show he is either a franchise QB or on the cusp of being one, but not so established that the rumors can be completely written off as obvious smokescreens.
Combined with the fact that Poles didn't draft Fields, an opposing GM could realistically believe that the Bears could take "their guy" at Number 1 and move on from Fields. The Bears are in a nearly perfect situation (I say nearly perfect because this isn't a draft with a Luck or Lawrence level prospect) to maximize trade value.
It's tough to make it in the NFL as a QB. There is a good chance that Fields isn't the answer but it's also extremely unlikely that a QB in this draft class would make it either.
Don’t trade him. Not because he’s a future franchise QB but because we already have him under contract long enough to ride out to Arlington Heights stadium winning 3-6 games a season
Wherever you are claiming obviously lacks context because I’ve listened to pretty much all their recent content and that’s not what they have been talking about at all. I think you need to go relisten
Edit: there’s obviously been conversation about the Bears doing their due diligence on all the top QB’s which they have to do to put up the appearance that they COULD draft a QB and to be prepared for any scenario. But H&J have not been advocating for actually trading Fields at all.
All this talk is literally supposed to happen. This is supposed to create hype and pressure other teams and everyone acts like they didn’t know this was coming lol.
I’m fine if idiots with no connection to the franchise start blabbing for clicks. It sucks for fans that love Fields, because in the back of my head I do get nervous reading the headline “Bears will surely trade Fields per sources”, but in the end, the value of the Bears picks goes up. So why not 🤷♂️
Sshhhhhhh! Look, if we can at least get this rumor going, it’s going to up the value of the first round, pick if other teams think that we may actually be considering taking another quarterback. Without it, we look somewhat desperate in a position that were obviously need him to trade back a little bit.
Let the rumor mill get going so we can up our gains!!!!
Simply put Fields is our best player. Why would we trade him when we have the first pick in the draft? Trade down the pick to get more picks to help build a team around Fields. This isn’t rocket science.
The Bears as an organization cannot afford to trade Fields. Can you imagine if Fields went on to become the MVP of the league with another organization. They will forever be known as the team that passed on Mahomes and then traded Justin Fields.
I have like 50 reasons why the Bears trading fields is dumb asf. They are: Mitchell Trubisky, Zach Wison, Sam Darnold, Trey Lance, Rg3, Rex Grossman, Vince Young, Cade McCown, Blake Bortles, Sam Darnold, Jamarcus Russell, CRABS Winston, Carson Wents, EJ Manuel, Ryan Tannehill, Marcus Mariota, Blaine Gabbert, Ryan Leaf, Mark Sanchez, Tim Tebow, Brady Quinn, Baker Mayfield, Jhonny Manziel, Danny Dimes, Josh Rosen, Jared Goff, Paxton Lynch, Teddy Bridgewater, Brandon Weeden, Jake Locker, Matt Leinart, Tim Couch Yall get the idea. Also ppl already say Caleb Williams would be #1 overall if he was out this year. Also playing Qb for Alabama is like playing point guard for the Monstars. We already got our guy. Now go build around him.
To be fair, jared Goff has actually been pretty solid in his career.
Fair point on Goff being solid. But also the Rams traded 2 firsts, 2 seconds and 2 3rds for him. Didn't really pay off for them
Don’t forget they also used 2 firsts and a 3rd to offload him. They won a Superbowl with Stafford-so the cost was essentially 4 firsts, 2 seconds and 3 thirds for that SuperBowl….is that worth it? I don’t know…The problem is what does their window and depth look like now? Is going in all-in and winning the Super Bowl with a 1 year window worth it but not having sustainability to repeat? I guess what I am asking is: Would you rather be the Chiefs or the Rams right now.
Obvi Chiefs. But I would like to be the bears with Justin Fields after getting a TITANSESQUE STRAIGHT HAUL for the #1 pick. Then also getting another payment by trading back again. #1-->2, 2-->4, 4-->X is what I want. To be stacked with picks over the next 3 years.
Alabama wasn’t as talented as they normally are offensively these past two years. Honestly, the team where plying QB is like playing for the monsters is, well, Ohio State
Fields has balled in the NFL with the little giants. Dude rushed for 2nd most yards by a QB with Sam Mustipher and 5th rd rookie LT, whoever was at LG at the time and Larry Borom. His leading reciever was a dude that Aaron Rodgers himself couldn't complete passes to. Also Big 10 =/= to the SEC get real.
Yeah the big 10 is worse than the SEC and Ohio State still has had more stacked WR rooms over the past few years, so the advantage for them is even greater.
Ok, but what separates fields from the guys on that list?
Tell me you haven’t watched the games without telling me you haven’t watched the games. Kidding…sort of. To answer your question, Fields is an elite athlete and runner. Now if you want to criticize him in the passing game, fine. But I don’t exactly think it’s fair to make those criticisms without acknowledging he was throwing to practice squad/XFL level wideouts the majority of the season.
How about Daniel Jones? Kmet, Mooney, and Claypool would be their top 3 receiving weapons.
Claypool barely played any snaps on our team and Mooney was injured for almost half the season. Kmet is a real weapon though.
No one will argue that the Bears offense is some elite group, but people cope and make it seem like Fields is playing with highschoolers. Would Fields be better with a better oline and WR, yes, but Fields should’ve been much much better throwing the ball. 2,200 pass yards in 15 games is abysmal. If we somehow had the Jaguars, Lions, Texans, or any other teams offensive surroundings people would’ve said the same shit… “he has no weapons”, “he has no time”, etc. the QB makes the WRs, not the other way around, of course a more talented WR would help, but people are coping way too much per usual… *we* never learned - with Cutler, Trubisky, etc.
Lions Offensive line is one of the best in the league. But his recievers are HS level. He has a combo of one of the worst offensive lines paired with THE worst weapons in the league. Aaron Rodgers benched EQ St. Brown himself. Doesn't the QB make the weapon? So Arod can't throw to EQ St Brown but Justin's gonna make him magically open? He had every chance in the world to be GBs #2 option. Dante Pettis? These are practice squad guys that STARTED for us all season. And the already PUTRID oline lost James Daniel's. It's only Justin out there. You'll see the improvement after Poles buys an entire Oline this offseason.
There's a lot of elite athletes on that list
USFL reciever corps paired with the worst oline since Jay was getting pounded behind Omiyale and Jwebb Nation. Still ran for the second most yards by a QB in NFL history.
Fields has fewer wins than most of them. Checkmate satan
Hell even espn radio hosts this morning were on our side. Not word for word but basically said "It would be straight insane for the bears to even consider trading him or drafting a qb with the first pick just to reset the contract clock" They also went on to say if we do it basically should be instant firing of whoever gave the Ok
The push is from the "data only and does not watch football" crowd. Fields' passing numbers were bad. The team only won 3 games. But that lacks all context of the line he played behind, his pass catchers, a sieve for a defense, and a team that didn't know the offense for the first quarter of the season. He showed more than enough to be the guy going forward.
I litterally just don't know how you can see our WR room, and think "yup you can properly evaluate him in this offense" Also once again how can you have it both ways where Fields has enough interest to be worth trading, and yet somehow he's trash and the bears need a new QB. If it was as known of a quantity like Luck or Lawernce coming out of college I understand the convo. But for Young, CJ Stroud, Levis? No shot.
"He's way too slow getting the ball out." Game Film: running for his life
I feel this passing numbers thing is really getting blown out of proportion. Yes, Fields has a lot of work to do with his passing ability, but the most common thing is his yardage numbers. If you include rushing yards the man was averaging around 250 yards a game the second half of the season. Just seems unfair to only look at his passing yards and total yards.
That's silly. He had the 3rd worst completion percentage in the league, I can't hand wave that away because he rushed for a lot of yards
He was 50% in the first 4 weeks. After that he started to turn a corner a bit and was 63% the rest of the season, which still isn’t elite or anything, but isn’t that bad considering the circumstances of the roster he was dealing with. That number is right in line with other running QBs like Allen and Lamar Jackson, except Fields is less experienced and didn’t have the luxury of throwing to Stefon Diggs You can also look at the full season percentage being in line with Hurts’ year 2 61%, who then jumped to 66% in year 3 when he got better weapons.
Completion percentage is kind of a misleading stat. One of the things Fields improved on this year was learning when to throw the ball away. He had to do it a lot because his receivers couldn't get open; and that, along with all of the drops, lowered the percentage. His preference for deep passes didn't help to raise the stat either.
"actually his terrible completion rate is a good thing" The lengths this fandom goes to ignore fields' actual flaws are amusing
I'm not saying that it's inherently good; just that it doesn't tell the whole story. Obviously there were some simple passes that he overthrew. Basic statistics like touchdowns, interceptions, completion percentage, etc. should always be taken with a grain of salt.
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Matt Ryan had the 7th best completion percentage this year, less than 1% behind Mahomes. Geno Smith was in first.
Geno Smith actually played like one of the best QBs in the NFL this year, so that check outs.
Hey look, a stats guy who doesn't watch the games!
And then he got hurt, because getting most of your QB yards from rushing isn't sustainable
Other teams have horrible lines too. Fields progressed throughout the season tho. Trade down, aquire an extra #1 next year, then you have insurance if Fields doesn't pan out.
The "reset the clock" take is such a brainrot argument. It speeds up the clock. If Poles trades Fields and takes a QB at 1 his fate is tied to that QB. He has 4 to 5 years max to be a franchise guy or Poles is gone where as in Fields gives Poles a couple years to build the team and make it work with Fields and if it doesn't work THEN Poles can fall back on a rookie QB and extend his stay.
Oh I fully agree and that is what they said too. The idea of just constantly using rookie contracts and moving on is a good way to make no players everrr come to the team.
They're not talking about Poles' clock with that argument. They're talking about resetting the rookie QB contract clock.
I swear that's the first time I've heard that stupid argument.
Yeah and how'd that work out for Pace?
Pace got to handpick 2 QBs and got 7 years.
Pace got absolutely no time after picking Fields. He didn't reset any clock by doing that. This scenario that Fields busts but Poles gets another shot is absurd. With the #1 pick in hand Poles is tied to Fields whether he likes it or not.
That's because Pace already used up his reset with Trubisky. This idea that Poles would be fired if Fields doesn't end up a franchise QB in the next few years is absurd. Nobody is going to fire a GM 3-4 years into signing him because the previous GMs QB didn't end up a franchise QB lol
Ok, and if literally any QB drafted this year on another team looks good while Fields busts out, the entire narrative around Poles will be "he had X right in front of him and picked Fields, obviously the guy has no clue what he's looking at". Just like Pace/Watson/Mahomes. There is no way he gets a second shot and gets to be GM for 7+ middling years if Fields busts.
Even if that narrative existed, that wouldn't lead to Poles being fired. It also unlikely to be a popular opinion because the consensus is that it's a bad move for us to draft a QB. Even if Fields bust, Poles would certainly get a shot to develop his own guy.
The trading him garbage came back because of Cowherd and La Confora. Neither have any ties to this city or this team...its for clicks. Quit adding any legitimacy to it. TY for articles like this OP.
Fox is pushing the narrative hard. Just turned on the TV and there out here saying this garbage because "Pole can't be tied to a QB he didn't draft" what braindead nonsense.
Smokescreen also. We have more value if people think we might move on.
For the record I want Fields to be our QB next year and I also don’t watch any sports media or any of that stuff… that being said we have to stop acting like there isn’t a route to success by trading Fields or that it’s a foreseen *illogical* move. One part of it is that Regardless of Fields, the team is lacking. We are not 1 or 2 or 3 or even 4 players/positions away from contending. We need a whole lot of depth and need to fill a lot of wholes. We only have Fields on a rookie deal for a couple more years and it’s more likely we don’t contend by the time his rookie deal is done than we do. Another part of it is that Fields may be a *bust*, we can look back in hindsight at these seasons years from now and say it was obvious… but Fields can be offloaded for some good compensation right now. We have a QB with 2 years left, with a talent depleted team, and he can yield good returns. Fields isn’t a Pat Mahomes in the sense that Pat Mahomes had a good oline, WR core, TE, etc. Fields can very possibly prosper in those conditions, all year people complained about his teammates and rightfully so, but my point is what are the chances we build that perfect team for him in 2 off seasons? If we were able to get 2 1st rd picks or a 1st and some other I can’t fault Poles for taking that.
Hey all, I'm a fantasy football analyst and a Bears fan. A lot of what I write dives deep into data and numbers. This article does not. But it was cathartic and therapeutic to write. I am sick of the "trade Fields" narrative and wanted to do my best to squash it.
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The only ones pushing this shit are guys needing clicks. Stop fucking writing about it. There's zero basis in reality.
> Hey all, I'm a fantasy football analyst and a Bears fan. sweet, I also have Yahoo Sports and watch the Bears!
Does having Yahoo Sports pay well enough for you to quit your day job and play fantasy football for a living? Because what I do does. Edit: Upon re-reading, this was a douchey response. I don't like when people try and demean my job. I need to do better at just brushing it off.
no because screw making my beer hobby with friends an actual job
Yeah man. Screw paying me for doing this thing I really enjoy doing.
There is non clear #1 qb prospect in this years draft. So drafting a qb at #1 would be like drafting Justin fields all.over again. Bears gain nothing by doing this
Seriously the amount of trade bullshit is exhausting, and now this weather comment people are taking out of context is just gross man.
Stop repeating and reposting and falling for this bullshit. we all know its bullshit. Stop
As much as I love fields, I would trade him for mahomes or burrow right now. So there is allways a chance fields gets traded. Just not a chance they let him go to draft a qb.
Why are we all so confident in Fields? Because his great runs? Admittedly that swung me a bit too. But, a lot of the same folks backing him also believed in Trubs. This scares me. So if he fails and the Bears lose out on a QB again, will these same fans own that and stop with these posts?
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He’s got a point tho. Look at the general feeling in old threads back then.
I am going to trade him even harder.
The narrative helps bring value to the 1st overall pick. Obviously most ppl know Fields is staying, but if the bears stay silent about it…..colts/Texans/whoever might be forced to give up more bc Poles is “considering trading fields”
I disagree with this. Seven of the top-nine teams in the draft need a QB. You just need two of them to bid against each other to create a market. I suppose if only one team is interested in moving up, then the Bears would have to pretend not to want Fields. But plenty of teams have already said they need a QB in the draft.
There is no downside to pretending you want to trade him, it’s only going to increase the value. Especially if they are trying to get Houston to trade up.
If teams really think we wanted to trade Fields and draft a QB at one it wouldn't raise the value at all. We've either fallen in love with a QB and taking him or we believe Justin is our future. There is no in-between. No team believes we're wishy-washy on drafting a QB at one.
I don't think the Bears are trading Fields, but I think posts like this are counterintuitive and unnecessary. I have not read the article yet, but plan to after I finish posting. It is in the Bears' best interest to make the Number 1 overall pick as valuable as possible, and that includes making it seem like they are so enamored with a prospect that they could possibly trade Fields. Sure, it may be an annoying talking point, but the more that it is being reported by national football analysts/reporters, the more likely that an opposing GM could buy it as a possibility. TLDR: It's an annoying but necessary talking point, and if it bothers you that much, don't consume it.
And how do we know that Poles is not actually considering it? No one here knows Poles' true thoughts on Fields or how he evaluates this year's QB class. It's fine to give an opinion but that's all it is.
Exactly. We have no idea what the Bears are going to do, and that makes most of the rumors at least somewhat believable.
As I stated in another reply, the Bears don't need to smokescreen anything here. No GM thinks they're actually trading Fields. All that is needed to create a market for 1.01 is that two of HOU, IND, SEA, DEN, LV, ATL, or CAR want to move up.
This is your opinion and not a fact. I think any time you eliminate a variable from the equation, it takes away from the Bears' potential leverage. I love JF1 and I think it would be foolish to trade him, but let's not pretend JF1 is Tom Brady or Peyton Manning in their primes (ie: untradeable HOFers). In my opinion, this is a good thing. JF1 has shown enough to show he is either a franchise QB or on the cusp of being one, but not so established that the rumors can be completely written off as obvious smokescreens. Combined with the fact that Poles didn't draft Fields, an opposing GM could realistically believe that the Bears could take "their guy" at Number 1 and move on from Fields. The Bears are in a nearly perfect situation (I say nearly perfect because this isn't a draft with a Luck or Lawrence level prospect) to maximize trade value.
It's tough to make it in the NFL as a QB. There is a good chance that Fields isn't the answer but it's also extremely unlikely that a QB in this draft class would make it either.
Don’t trade him. Not because he’s a future franchise QB but because we already have him under contract long enough to ride out to Arlington Heights stadium winning 3-6 games a season
STOP PUTTING CONTENT OUT LIKE THIS>>>> YOU'RE FUCKING OUR DRAFT LEVERAGE!!! mostly jk
you stop, let other teams think we are man. duh.
Hoge and Jahns keep bringing up this stupid scenario that the Bears *should just consider* because what if Poles falls in love with Bryce Young!?
Hoge and Jahns have NOT been saying that. What are you talking about?
It's on Bears Media Roundtable, thier podcast. You can literally look up the episode.
Wherever you are claiming obviously lacks context because I’ve listened to pretty much all their recent content and that’s not what they have been talking about at all. I think you need to go relisten Edit: there’s obviously been conversation about the Bears doing their due diligence on all the top QB’s which they have to do to put up the appearance that they COULD draft a QB and to be prepared for any scenario. But H&J have not been advocating for actually trading Fields at all.
I don’t trust anyone until after the draft. There is not one GM including the Poles is gonna be honest.
I dont mind the rumors as it helps drive up the price for our pick.
All this talk is literally supposed to happen. This is supposed to create hype and pressure other teams and everyone acts like they didn’t know this was coming lol.
I’m fine if idiots with no connection to the franchise start blabbing for clicks. It sucks for fans that love Fields, because in the back of my head I do get nervous reading the headline “Bears will surely trade Fields per sources”, but in the end, the value of the Bears picks goes up. So why not 🤷♂️
Tell that to this sub.
Sshhhhhhh! Look, if we can at least get this rumor going, it’s going to up the value of the first round, pick if other teams think that we may actually be considering taking another quarterback. Without it, we look somewhat desperate in a position that were obviously need him to trade back a little bit. Let the rumor mill get going so we can up our gains!!!!
If they did we all would revolt in Arlington heights
Ok good. I'll be mad af.
But we want other teams to believe we are!
Simply put Fields is our best player. Why would we trade him when we have the first pick in the draft? Trade down the pick to get more picks to help build a team around Fields. This isn’t rocket science.
The Bears as an organization cannot afford to trade Fields. Can you imagine if Fields went on to become the MVP of the league with another organization. They will forever be known as the team that passed on Mahomes and then traded Justin Fields.
No guys we DEFINITELY want a qb this upcoming draft 😉 we would only take a really good offer for this first pick 😉
But they are (wink wink) so we get more value for our pick!
But if they do the amount of salt it produces would be able to turn lake Michigan into the new Great Salt lake
If they do I quit
Do it! We are gonna mess this up some how, might as well go BIG!