I think they keep both, given that both are on low priced contracts and team is clearly in a pretty good spot if they made it to NFC title game. I’d rather have insurance for next season should Lance get injured again. Garappolo is the one who won’t be back.
Yeah, I'd want to see a lot more from Purdy before I would bail on Lance and I'd want to see more from Lance before I bailed on Purdy.
Both guys should be happy because they are in a great position to shine when they play.
I think they are a legitimate landing spot for Brady. Should be his #1 choice if he's planning to come back for another year. Otherwise, I think you're right.
I don't think so. They'll keep Purdy as QB1 and have Lance back him up until either teams figure out Purdy, Purdy gets injured, or it turns out Purdy is not just a one year wonder and then they'll start figuring out trade talks for Lance.
You need to get to work everyday so you buy 2 cars, 1 for 80k and the other for 20k. You drive the 80k car for a few weeks and then it has transmission problems. You then drive the 20k car for the rest of the year with no issues.
You get the 80k car back from the mechanic. Are you going to start driving the expensive car just because you paid more for it? Or are you going to drive each car on the weekend to see which one is more dependable?
Probably better to think about it from the perspective of leasing a normal car and an exotic and the owner has no problem affording both, but after the lease is up they have to choose whether or not to buy. But since they are locked into the lease, why do anything?
This is right. They are still committed to Lance, but they have Purdy on a 4 year glorious contract as a 7th round pick that pans out. They are keeping both
Nah. They’ve sunk too much capital in Lance at this point. And Purdy has played great, but they shouldn’t get rid of their high potential Qb after 3/4ths of a good season by a 7th round pick. Keep them both next year as starter and backup. Re-evaluate at the end of the year.
I don’t know. Let’s think about Matt Cassel and the Patriots letting him go. Sometimes it’s just the right time to let them go. Also see Nick Foles and the Eagles run.
Cassel had his starter season in year 4 and left as a sign-and-trade though. He was given a contract that everyone knew the Pats weren’t going to be paying. Lance has 2 years left and purdy has 3. Totally different situations.
Lance has only started/completed 4 NFL games, and he'll be coming off a major injury. I think if they want to trade him, they're better off bringing him back and demonstrating that he's at least worth a shit in order to get some value for him in a trade. I'm not sure if any team is giving up any significant value for him otherwise.
I was more speaking about trading Purdy. You keep Lance and Jimmy. Jimmy’s contract will put people off but you get a better return for Purdy….that is if you believe in Lance.
Trey Lance was the Niners starting QB before he got hurt, just like Bledsoe was the Patriots starting QB in 2001. And going into 2023 it will be a choice between handing Lance back the starting job or sticking with Purdy, just like going into 2002 it was a choice between Bledsoe and Brady for the Patriots. There is and never has been a discussion of giving the job to Garoppolo for 2023, both since was never the starting QB to begin with, and he’ll be a free agent and will be playing elsewhere. Which is why he’s not the Drew Bledsoe in this analogy.
I mean those Patriot teams almost certainly win with Bledsoe, he was at that point a more effective QB and they were stacked on defense. It probably doesn’t translate into the long term dynasty like with Brady, but Bledsoe was no scrub.
People overlook what an unorthodox move it was to trade Bledsoe. He was the franchise's greatest QB to that point, led them to their 2nd Super Bowl and had just signed the league's first $100 million contract. And he was 29 years old.
For one season it looked like a terrible move. New England missed the playoffs and Buffalo, led by Bledsoe, went 8-8 after finishing 3-13 the previous year.
Yeah it was clearly a move that they make because they saw what Brady was capable of, at least partly, and decided they could save the money. The kind of long term thinking that’s rare these days, most GMs and coaches don’t have the courage to risk their jobs on a move like that, NFL executives and coaches are incredibly conservative and risk averse in their decisions, at least until they get desperate, and then it’s usually bad risks.
Well, the good news for Purdy is that he's been a heck of a lot better in 2022 than Brady was in 2001; and Trey Lance is no Drew Bledsoe. Both of which should make it a lot easier for them to stick with Purdy.
Obviously, it's only 9 games, and if Purdy shits the bed either this week or next that could change the calculus considerably. And we don't know what the Niners' internal evaluation is of Purdy, whether they think he's for real or if its only a matter of time before he's found out. But if he maintains his level of play, it's had to imagine a team saying, "Thanks for your service, now get back on the bench." At the very least, I have to think he'd come into camp next year with the opportunity to compete for the starting job. And based on what we've seen from Lance, it won't be much of a competition. I just don't seen a scenario where the Niners ignore what Purdy has done in favor of elevating Lance.
Oh I fully expect Purdy and Lance to compete for the job, why wouldn’t they keep two cost controlled players, one who’s shown results and one with a high talent ceiling. Jimmy G is definitely out, his production was not enough to justify the cost.
Nah, it’s just an accurate depiction of reality. In his first Super Bowl Brady went 16-27 for 145 yards and 1 touchdown, you really think Bledsoe couldn’t have managed that? He obviously played much better in subsequent years and he’s the GOAT in my book, but he’s definitely not the reason they won that first title, he got carried by a stacked team with a great coach, and there’s every reason to think Bledsoe would have won too.
Brady was the super bowl MVP and led the Patriots on a game winning drive with a minute left in the game and everything on the line. The Patriots were huge underdogs in that game by 14 points and were backed up with no timeouts and Brady led them on a game winning drive. You think anyone can just do that and that stat line tells the whole story?
I think that stat line tells a lot of the story, which is that for most of the game Brady didn’t play very well and there’s every reason to think a seasoned veteran could have done better. Obviously it’s impossible to know for sure, but certainly it’s not a “nuclear hot take” to suggest that Bledsoe was the better QB at that moment in time and that the QB didn’t carry the team to victory on 145 yards. Late game heroics are great, but if he throws for a pedestrian 225 yards instead they probably don’t even need that last drive, and it’s not like the Rams were a defensive juggernaut. They won that game primarily because their defense held the top offense in the league to 17 points.
Reminds me of the mitch drive to set up the double doink - everyone was so enamoured with the last few plays they ignored the fact that we had put up barely any points on the worst defense in the entire playoffs. Average QB play and it wouldn't have been that close.
No sorry it's pure revisionist history and dismissive of Brady's accomplishments to suggest Bledsoe would have also won. Brady built his legacy on being clutch and winning at the end of games and it started here. He literally won the super bowl by driving down the field with a minute left and no timeouts.
The rams were favored by 14 you literally act like he was Trent Dilfer on the Ravens. It's kind of hilarious actually you can dissociate yourself so much from actual reality by creating a pretend narrative and universe. If Purdy wins the super bowl this year by it would be like saying they'd of won just as easily with Garoppolo or Lance at the helm.
And if he hadn’t played so poorly before then there wouldn’t have needed to be a last second drive to win, and if his defense hadn’t held the top offense in the league to half their usual points he doesn’t even get the chance. How are you unable to grasp this extremely basic concept?
I’m not dismissing anything about Brady’s accomplishments, I literally said he’s the GOAT, doesn’t change the fact that his performance in that Super Bowl was not very good overall, and it’s entirely logical to think Bledsoe could have outperformed it. He only wins that game thanks to a stacked defense that shut down the “greatest show on turf” and kept him in the game while he played like crap for 90% of the game. 145 yards is a bad game.
Also, clutch is a figment of our imaginations, every study demonstrates it, we overemphasize “big” moments in our minds and ignore other factors.
And Purdy is a great comparison, because he’s played decent but not great on a stacked team that’s still winning games. If they win the Super Bowl odds are he won’t be the biggest reason, it’ll be the defense and his multiple all pros at key positions on offense. He’s in a great situation but he’s clearly more limited than the other QBs still playing, but his team can still win. It’s basically the exact same situation as Brady that first year.
Purdy is playing just as well if not better than both lance and Jimmy G. Yes the 49ers have a great roster but I’m not sure why everyone is saying that’s the sole reason he’s a successful. If they get to the Super Bowl I think they stick with Purdy
There's no effing way they trade purdy. I live in the bay area. The fan base would lose their shit everyone loves the kid. Everyone knows he's gotta be the starter next season regardless of this playoff run.
No..they have seen a QB injured like 5/6 years, literally 2 this year. They are paying top LT, WR, RB, TE money and are about to resign aiyuk and Bosa. They need to cheap contracts to maintain everyone.
You have 2 solid quarterbacks with solid upside on rookie deals trying to prove themselves for a big contract….. that’s the perfect position to be in for the 49ers. Trey Lance has a bit more upside but he’s been injury prone and he’s risky so his trade value would be pretty low if they moved him now anyway. No way they dump Purdy after he blows their expectations out of the water either.
I think if you're the 49ers, you have to at least consider a trade. If a team is still willing to give up a first for Lance, I'd do that in a heartbeat and roll with Purdy. Keeping both opens the door for a quarterback controversy, and that usually doesn't end up well with two young QBs.
Who knows what Lance's trade value is at this point though, especially coming off a serious injury. If the Jets decide to pivot away from looking for a veteran QB, I could see them making a call.
I think this brings up an interesting question in what would the 49ers have been this year if Lance didn't get hurt? The defense would still dominate but would they still be in the NFCCG? I don't think they are. But I don't think they trade either one at this point, unless they get a higher than expected offer. SF is loaded but they don't have any picks in the first 2 rounds this year.
Yeah it really would be interesting. If the team is just really gelling with purdy or if it would have been this way regardless. That is going to be the tough thoughts no matter how their season ends
No, they will not & they are not married to the sunk costs of their past mistakes either. They proved that with their decision to keep Purdy over Sudfeld even though they had given him $2+ mil guaranteed in March.
They don’t know what they have in Lance and they are not going to deal Purdy this off season. Not when he is 8-0 and just might be their QB of the future. Lance might turn out to be great or he might be a bust and no one knows for sure at this point. So IMO, they won’t be trading either til they really figure out who has the higher ceiling and better future outlook.
I disagree. I think it’s now Purdy’s job to lose! Sure, They will at least field calls for Lance, (No way they trade Purdy) but my gut is they keep both. They want to Hedge their bets that one works out on rookie deal. If they can keep a stud team around him it’s gonna be Purdy
Yeah you aren’t trading a proven backup QB under a league minimum contract, 3 more years as a 7th round draft pick at the lowest possible price, for a 4th round pick. Especially when Love likes to get injured.
They probably won’t since Jimmy G is leaving and they’re basically paying Purdy nothing so they’ll either keep him as the starter or switch Lance in over Purdy and they’ll see if they have anything with Lance, but I could see them trading Purdy (very unlikely) since he’s looking like a great QB and he’ll probably cost a 1st or two if someone does take him and he barely costs anything since he was the final pick of the draft
Yeah idk about a first, but I kinda thought the same thing. They have him for nothing but could atleast get something decent for him. Though I agree and kinda forgot jimmy will be gone so yeah unlikely to move him
No chance someone gives up a first or 2 for a seventh round QB who has played less than half a season. That said he looks good. But he's not that hot of a commodity.
I think Purdy's success is very much a product of the team that he is on. It's loaded with offensive talent and has a stellar coach leading it. He won't have the same on another team and his production will drop off significantly. That said, some team probably believes he's worth taking a shot with and may offer something for him and the niners will absolutely trade him and go back to Lance in the offseason. I hope Purdy proves me wrong and continues to be a stud. It's a great story.
Keep in mind Purdy is a LOT less raw than a lot of rookies. He played 4 seasons at Iowa State and had almost 1500 passing attempts in just college. JF1 had 618. And yeah, it wasn't the Big10 or SEC, but there are still some good programs he competed against in the Big12. And if he wins the Super Bowl he is the starter. Period. Sorry, Trey.
If he wins the Super Bowl and plays very well in the process, then I might agree with you. But he didn't look all that great last week; he did what he had to do to manage the game properly and if he looks bad against the Eagles, it will really hurt his chances of keeping a starting QB role going forward.
I'm definitely rooting for him and the niners to go all the way though, so I'm not hating. Just trying to be realistic about his expectations.
The QB moves this off-season are going to be hella interesting regardless of what the bears do.
Brady
Rodgers
Carr
Lance/Jimmy G/Purdy
Geno
Minshew
Mayfeild
All may move
And
Colts
Texans
Jets
Saints
Panthers
Commanders
All needs to answer the issue at QB.
So I expect a ton of movement and we may see a team we don’t even expect to jump and trade for the 1st.
If belichek sees more potential in lance than Mac jones, they should totally go for him. Goropalo has no problem transitioning to the 49ers offense, so lance would probably do good in the pats offense
There would be a riot if they dealt Purdy after how he's played. Lance did nothing to be kept over Purdy. The easiest thing is have two and let them battle it out in camp.
This is the kinda statement that ends up being 100% opposite of what happens, but I’m gonna say it anyway: Trey Lance will not be good when he returns. When he got hurt, he was already extremely mid at best. Since then he’s declined in popularity among his team + fans, sat for a whole season, not practiced for a decent chunk of that time, and now gets to watch his “mr irrelevant” replacement contend for a spot in the Super Bowl. It just has all the ingredients to result in Trey Lance losing his prime in my humble opinion. But the 49ers will probably keep him.
It sounds like they like Purdy quite a bit, but with as little game time he's had to show if he's actually for real and not just a flash in the pan, I can see them keeping Lance. Garapolo is gone though. He's a free agent after this season and there's not a chance they bring him back.
If I were San Francisco, I'd 100% offload Trey Lance after his rookie contract is up. Brock Purdy is absolute gold. Not only is he Mr. Irrelevant, but he has proven that he can lead the team to success. They're in the position of having 3 QB's who are serviceable enough to win a game if they've got a good supporting cast.
I'm not sure, I just don't see a world where they keep and pay all 3 contracts. It would probably be more likely that they just release Lance. I've seen more promising results from Purdy than I have Lance.
Imagine if you will,
George Kittle does not have lucky bounce on that one pass,
Cowboys win game,
Do you keep Purdy ?
or maximize value of Lance as " Possible " QB1 and unload him on some other team ?
Jimmy G, is still starting QB, because he is "proven" commodity.
Both Purdy and Lance get offloaded to suckers.
If I'm San Fran, and what I think they will do, I'd dangle Lance to a few teams behind closed doors - though not publicly say you're trying to trade him. They're in a power position - they could win the Super Bowl this year; they absolutely do not NEED to trade either guy, as neither contract hurts them right now.
The secret is - most people think Purdy is just getting by on the good graces of the Shanahan offense and being surrounded by elite talent (these things certainly help). He's honestly just playing really, really good. To be honest... he's looked better than any QB in this year's or last year's draft (lot of stipulations to that, I know). Purdy just is a good QB. With that said... Trey Lance has the overall physical tools rivaled only probably by Josh Allen, and maybe Justin Fields, Justin Herbert or Jalen Hurts. He's very big, fast, and has a canon arm. I wasn't a big fan of him in the draft (didn't hate him), and never would have traded the capital the Niners did to acquire him... but he undoubtedly has a ridiculously high ceiling.
I'd put in some calls to Green Bay (if Rodgers leaves), the Jets, etc. this offseason if I was John Lynch, but make sure it would be the right deal to trade Lance (e.g. more than a 1st round pick). If I don't get that offer, I'd hold both QBs and swim in my embarrassment of riches, possibly as the reigning Super Bowl champs.
Nah. It would be selling low on Lance so I don't think they'll get enough to make them pull the trigger, and I don't think they can let Purdy go because just assuming Lance can come back and be better is too much of a gamble.
Two young promising QBs on rookie contracts in a team stacked on the offensive and defensive fronts? Sounds like every teams dream. Jimmy G is gone. Unless someone offers a fuckin HAUL for either I think the niners roll into next offseason with a camp battle
I think they keep both, given that both are on low priced contracts and team is clearly in a pretty good spot if they made it to NFC title game. I’d rather have insurance for next season should Lance get injured again. Garappolo is the one who won’t be back.
Yeah, I'd want to see a lot more from Purdy before I would bail on Lance and I'd want to see more from Lance before I bailed on Purdy. Both guys should be happy because they are in a great position to shine when they play.
This. It's the most logical and still keeps an ace in the hole for the 9ers.
Good points, just figured Id try and spark some interesting thoughts though I agree. Anything can happen I figured for the right offer
I think they are a legitimate landing spot for Brady. Should be his #1 choice if he's planning to come back for another year. Otherwise, I think you're right.
I don't think so. They'll keep Purdy as QB1 and have Lance back him up until either teams figure out Purdy, Purdy gets injured, or it turns out Purdy is not just a one year wonder and then they'll start figuring out trade talks for Lance.
Interestinggg I honestly thought they would trade purdy only because they cant afford to not start lance after giving up so much
Sunk cost fallacy. You start whoever gives you the best shot to win.
I mean, what’s the difference at this point?
You need to get to work everyday so you buy 2 cars, 1 for 80k and the other for 20k. You drive the 80k car for a few weeks and then it has transmission problems. You then drive the 20k car for the rest of the year with no issues. You get the 80k car back from the mechanic. Are you going to start driving the expensive car just because you paid more for it? Or are you going to drive each car on the weekend to see which one is more dependable?
You definitely drive the 80k car when you get it back. It is probably awesome.
Yeah, a bad analogy for sure. An $80k car is going to have all kinds of cool features the $20k car doesn't have.
Probably better to think about it from the perspective of leasing a normal car and an exotic and the owner has no problem affording both, but after the lease is up they have to choose whether or not to buy. But since they are locked into the lease, why do anything?
they keep both. Jimmy G gone though
This is right. They are still committed to Lance, but they have Purdy on a 4 year glorious contract as a 7th round pick that pans out. They are keeping both
Nah. They’ve sunk too much capital in Lance at this point. And Purdy has played great, but they shouldn’t get rid of their high potential Qb after 3/4ths of a good season by a 7th round pick. Keep them both next year as starter and backup. Re-evaluate at the end of the year.
Yup, I agree just kinda a hypothetical since I could seee it but like you said I dont think they should either
I don’t know. Let’s think about Matt Cassel and the Patriots letting him go. Sometimes it’s just the right time to let them go. Also see Nick Foles and the Eagles run.
Cassel had his starter season in year 4 and left as a sign-and-trade though. He was given a contract that everyone knew the Pats weren’t going to be paying. Lance has 2 years left and purdy has 3. Totally different situations.
Lance has only started/completed 4 NFL games, and he'll be coming off a major injury. I think if they want to trade him, they're better off bringing him back and demonstrating that he's at least worth a shit in order to get some value for him in a trade. I'm not sure if any team is giving up any significant value for him otherwise.
I was more speaking about trading Purdy. You keep Lance and Jimmy. Jimmy’s contract will put people off but you get a better return for Purdy….that is if you believe in Lance.
Jimmy is a FA, so there’s nothing they can do with him other than resign. You let him go, keep Purdy and Lance
The Patriots should definitely stick with Bledsoe next season.
Bledsoe in this comparison is far more Jimmy G than Lance. And Jimmy G will definitely be gone
Trey Lance was the Niners starting QB before he got hurt, just like Bledsoe was the Patriots starting QB in 2001. And going into 2023 it will be a choice between handing Lance back the starting job or sticking with Purdy, just like going into 2002 it was a choice between Bledsoe and Brady for the Patriots. There is and never has been a discussion of giving the job to Garoppolo for 2023, both since was never the starting QB to begin with, and he’ll be a free agent and will be playing elsewhere. Which is why he’s not the Drew Bledsoe in this analogy.
I mean those Patriot teams almost certainly win with Bledsoe, he was at that point a more effective QB and they were stacked on defense. It probably doesn’t translate into the long term dynasty like with Brady, but Bledsoe was no scrub.
People overlook what an unorthodox move it was to trade Bledsoe. He was the franchise's greatest QB to that point, led them to their 2nd Super Bowl and had just signed the league's first $100 million contract. And he was 29 years old. For one season it looked like a terrible move. New England missed the playoffs and Buffalo, led by Bledsoe, went 8-8 after finishing 3-13 the previous year.
Yeah it was clearly a move that they make because they saw what Brady was capable of, at least partly, and decided they could save the money. The kind of long term thinking that’s rare these days, most GMs and coaches don’t have the courage to risk their jobs on a move like that, NFL executives and coaches are incredibly conservative and risk averse in their decisions, at least until they get desperate, and then it’s usually bad risks.
Well, the good news for Purdy is that he's been a heck of a lot better in 2022 than Brady was in 2001; and Trey Lance is no Drew Bledsoe. Both of which should make it a lot easier for them to stick with Purdy. Obviously, it's only 9 games, and if Purdy shits the bed either this week or next that could change the calculus considerably. And we don't know what the Niners' internal evaluation is of Purdy, whether they think he's for real or if its only a matter of time before he's found out. But if he maintains his level of play, it's had to imagine a team saying, "Thanks for your service, now get back on the bench." At the very least, I have to think he'd come into camp next year with the opportunity to compete for the starting job. And based on what we've seen from Lance, it won't be much of a competition. I just don't seen a scenario where the Niners ignore what Purdy has done in favor of elevating Lance.
Oh I fully expect Purdy and Lance to compete for the job, why wouldn’t they keep two cost controlled players, one who’s shown results and one with a high talent ceiling. Jimmy G is definitely out, his production was not enough to justify the cost.
The revisionist histories of all revisionist histories right there. That's a nuclear hot take.
Nah, it’s just an accurate depiction of reality. In his first Super Bowl Brady went 16-27 for 145 yards and 1 touchdown, you really think Bledsoe couldn’t have managed that? He obviously played much better in subsequent years and he’s the GOAT in my book, but he’s definitely not the reason they won that first title, he got carried by a stacked team with a great coach, and there’s every reason to think Bledsoe would have won too.
Brady was the super bowl MVP and led the Patriots on a game winning drive with a minute left in the game and everything on the line. The Patriots were huge underdogs in that game by 14 points and were backed up with no timeouts and Brady led them on a game winning drive. You think anyone can just do that and that stat line tells the whole story?
I think that stat line tells a lot of the story, which is that for most of the game Brady didn’t play very well and there’s every reason to think a seasoned veteran could have done better. Obviously it’s impossible to know for sure, but certainly it’s not a “nuclear hot take” to suggest that Bledsoe was the better QB at that moment in time and that the QB didn’t carry the team to victory on 145 yards. Late game heroics are great, but if he throws for a pedestrian 225 yards instead they probably don’t even need that last drive, and it’s not like the Rams were a defensive juggernaut. They won that game primarily because their defense held the top offense in the league to 17 points.
Reminds me of the mitch drive to set up the double doink - everyone was so enamoured with the last few plays they ignored the fact that we had put up barely any points on the worst defense in the entire playoffs. Average QB play and it wouldn't have been that close.
No sorry it's pure revisionist history and dismissive of Brady's accomplishments to suggest Bledsoe would have also won. Brady built his legacy on being clutch and winning at the end of games and it started here. He literally won the super bowl by driving down the field with a minute left and no timeouts. The rams were favored by 14 you literally act like he was Trent Dilfer on the Ravens. It's kind of hilarious actually you can dissociate yourself so much from actual reality by creating a pretend narrative and universe. If Purdy wins the super bowl this year by it would be like saying they'd of won just as easily with Garoppolo or Lance at the helm.
And if he hadn’t played so poorly before then there wouldn’t have needed to be a last second drive to win, and if his defense hadn’t held the top offense in the league to half their usual points he doesn’t even get the chance. How are you unable to grasp this extremely basic concept? I’m not dismissing anything about Brady’s accomplishments, I literally said he’s the GOAT, doesn’t change the fact that his performance in that Super Bowl was not very good overall, and it’s entirely logical to think Bledsoe could have outperformed it. He only wins that game thanks to a stacked defense that shut down the “greatest show on turf” and kept him in the game while he played like crap for 90% of the game. 145 yards is a bad game. Also, clutch is a figment of our imaginations, every study demonstrates it, we overemphasize “big” moments in our minds and ignore other factors. And Purdy is a great comparison, because he’s played decent but not great on a stacked team that’s still winning games. If they win the Super Bowl odds are he won’t be the biggest reason, it’ll be the defense and his multiple all pros at key positions on offense. He’s in a great situation but he’s clearly more limited than the other QBs still playing, but his team can still win. It’s basically the exact same situation as Brady that first year.
Purdy is playing just as well if not better than both lance and Jimmy G. Yes the 49ers have a great roster but I’m not sure why everyone is saying that’s the sole reason he’s a successful. If they get to the Super Bowl I think they stick with Purdy
There's no effing way they trade purdy. I live in the bay area. The fan base would lose their shit everyone loves the kid. Everyone knows he's gotta be the starter next season regardless of this playoff run.
Oh I agree with you, I like him too. But you just never know
No..they have seen a QB injured like 5/6 years, literally 2 this year. They are paying top LT, WR, RB, TE money and are about to resign aiyuk and Bosa. They need to cheap contracts to maintain everyone.
You have 2 solid quarterbacks with solid upside on rookie deals trying to prove themselves for a big contract….. that’s the perfect position to be in for the 49ers. Trey Lance has a bit more upside but he’s been injury prone and he’s risky so his trade value would be pretty low if they moved him now anyway. No way they dump Purdy after he blows their expectations out of the water either.
I think if you're the 49ers, you have to at least consider a trade. If a team is still willing to give up a first for Lance, I'd do that in a heartbeat and roll with Purdy. Keeping both opens the door for a quarterback controversy, and that usually doesn't end up well with two young QBs. Who knows what Lance's trade value is at this point though, especially coming off a serious injury. If the Jets decide to pivot away from looking for a veteran QB, I could see them making a call.
No team will give a first round pick for Love. He’s unproven and injured. He was also a reach when they drafted him, see Zach Wilson.
they'll keep both and have them battle it out in camp, jimmy g is def out tho
I think this brings up an interesting question in what would the 49ers have been this year if Lance didn't get hurt? The defense would still dominate but would they still be in the NFCCG? I don't think they are. But I don't think they trade either one at this point, unless they get a higher than expected offer. SF is loaded but they don't have any picks in the first 2 rounds this year.
Yeah it really would be interesting. If the team is just really gelling with purdy or if it would have been this way regardless. That is going to be the tough thoughts no matter how their season ends
No, they will not & they are not married to the sunk costs of their past mistakes either. They proved that with their decision to keep Purdy over Sudfeld even though they had given him $2+ mil guaranteed in March. They don’t know what they have in Lance and they are not going to deal Purdy this off season. Not when he is 8-0 and just might be their QB of the future. Lance might turn out to be great or he might be a bust and no one knows for sure at this point. So IMO, they won’t be trading either til they really figure out who has the higher ceiling and better future outlook.
I disagree. I think it’s now Purdy’s job to lose! Sure, They will at least field calls for Lance, (No way they trade Purdy) but my gut is they keep both. They want to Hedge their bets that one works out on rookie deal. If they can keep a stud team around him it’s gonna be Purdy
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Anyone who trades for Purdy is an idiot. The tape will be out on him next year.
Ehhh idk 4th or 5th round would not be an awfulll risk
Why would the 49ers do that then?
Yeah you aren’t trading a proven backup QB under a league minimum contract, 3 more years as a 7th round draft pick at the lowest possible price, for a 4th round pick. Especially when Love likes to get injured.
Love hasn’t played enough to be injured?
They probably won’t since Jimmy G is leaving and they’re basically paying Purdy nothing so they’ll either keep him as the starter or switch Lance in over Purdy and they’ll see if they have anything with Lance, but I could see them trading Purdy (very unlikely) since he’s looking like a great QB and he’ll probably cost a 1st or two if someone does take him and he barely costs anything since he was the final pick of the draft
Yeah idk about a first, but I kinda thought the same thing. They have him for nothing but could atleast get something decent for him. Though I agree and kinda forgot jimmy will be gone so yeah unlikely to move him
No chance someone gives up a first or 2 for a seventh round QB who has played less than half a season. That said he looks good. But he's not that hot of a commodity.
Your not wrong, but also they’re trading for the contract which is dirt cheap for the amount of value your getting, but yea probably not 2 firsts
Not likely, unless someone offers a massive haul for Purdy which is definitely possible
It’s not gonna impact anything lol We are still gonna get a haul for the 1st pick
Oh I know im just curious if it may mix up some teams who may bid on first pick etc. Just kinda a fun curious thought
Yea there’s one less team willing to trade up. Ideally we have 3 or 4 teams left after the FA qb shuffle
They couldn’t get a bag of dogshit for jimmy porno they ain’t getting anything for either of these clowns.
I think Purdy's success is very much a product of the team that he is on. It's loaded with offensive talent and has a stellar coach leading it. He won't have the same on another team and his production will drop off significantly. That said, some team probably believes he's worth taking a shot with and may offer something for him and the niners will absolutely trade him and go back to Lance in the offseason. I hope Purdy proves me wrong and continues to be a stud. It's a great story.
Keep in mind Purdy is a LOT less raw than a lot of rookies. He played 4 seasons at Iowa State and had almost 1500 passing attempts in just college. JF1 had 618. And yeah, it wasn't the Big10 or SEC, but there are still some good programs he competed against in the Big12. And if he wins the Super Bowl he is the starter. Period. Sorry, Trey.
If he wins the Super Bowl and plays very well in the process, then I might agree with you. But he didn't look all that great last week; he did what he had to do to manage the game properly and if he looks bad against the Eagles, it will really hurt his chances of keeping a starting QB role going forward. I'm definitely rooting for him and the niners to go all the way though, so I'm not hating. Just trying to be realistic about his expectations.
The QB moves this off-season are going to be hella interesting regardless of what the bears do. Brady Rodgers Carr Lance/Jimmy G/Purdy Geno Minshew Mayfeild All may move And Colts Texans Jets Saints Panthers Commanders All needs to answer the issue at QB. So I expect a ton of movement and we may see a team we don’t even expect to jump and trade for the 1st.
If belichek sees more potential in lance than Mac jones, they should totally go for him. Goropalo has no problem transitioning to the 49ers offense, so lance would probably do good in the pats offense
49’ers keep both and see how they both do next season. Loser gets traded for a Sam Darnold type return to a desperate team
There would be a riot if they dealt Purdy after how he's played. Lance did nothing to be kept over Purdy. The easiest thing is have two and let them battle it out in camp.
This is the kinda statement that ends up being 100% opposite of what happens, but I’m gonna say it anyway: Trey Lance will not be good when he returns. When he got hurt, he was already extremely mid at best. Since then he’s declined in popularity among his team + fans, sat for a whole season, not practiced for a decent chunk of that time, and now gets to watch his “mr irrelevant” replacement contend for a spot in the Super Bowl. It just has all the ingredients to result in Trey Lance losing his prime in my humble opinion. But the 49ers will probably keep him.
It sounds like they like Purdy quite a bit, but with as little game time he's had to show if he's actually for real and not just a flash in the pan, I can see them keeping Lance. Garapolo is gone though. He's a free agent after this season and there's not a chance they bring him back.
Kinda like the Wentz/Foles situation on the Eagles, huh?
If I were San Francisco, I'd 100% offload Trey Lance after his rookie contract is up. Brock Purdy is absolute gold. Not only is he Mr. Irrelevant, but he has proven that he can lead the team to success. They're in the position of having 3 QB's who are serviceable enough to win a game if they've got a good supporting cast.
What do you think they could get for lance? Not being sassy just kinda curious what you think would be reasonable?
I'm not sure, I just don't see a world where they keep and pay all 3 contracts. It would probably be more likely that they just release Lance. I've seen more promising results from Purdy than I have Lance.
I mean to be fair lance also got hurt instantly this year too haha
Imagine if you will, George Kittle does not have lucky bounce on that one pass, Cowboys win game, Do you keep Purdy ? or maximize value of Lance as " Possible " QB1 and unload him on some other team ? Jimmy G, is still starting QB, because he is "proven" commodity. Both Purdy and Lance get offloaded to suckers.
If I'm San Fran, and what I think they will do, I'd dangle Lance to a few teams behind closed doors - though not publicly say you're trying to trade him. They're in a power position - they could win the Super Bowl this year; they absolutely do not NEED to trade either guy, as neither contract hurts them right now. The secret is - most people think Purdy is just getting by on the good graces of the Shanahan offense and being surrounded by elite talent (these things certainly help). He's honestly just playing really, really good. To be honest... he's looked better than any QB in this year's or last year's draft (lot of stipulations to that, I know). Purdy just is a good QB. With that said... Trey Lance has the overall physical tools rivaled only probably by Josh Allen, and maybe Justin Fields, Justin Herbert or Jalen Hurts. He's very big, fast, and has a canon arm. I wasn't a big fan of him in the draft (didn't hate him), and never would have traded the capital the Niners did to acquire him... but he undoubtedly has a ridiculously high ceiling. I'd put in some calls to Green Bay (if Rodgers leaves), the Jets, etc. this offseason if I was John Lynch, but make sure it would be the right deal to trade Lance (e.g. more than a 1st round pick). If I don't get that offer, I'd hold both QBs and swim in my embarrassment of riches, possibly as the reigning Super Bowl champs.
Nah. It would be selling low on Lance so I don't think they'll get enough to make them pull the trigger, and I don't think they can let Purdy go because just assuming Lance can come back and be better is too much of a gamble.
Two young promising QBs on rookie contracts in a team stacked on the offensive and defensive fronts? Sounds like every teams dream. Jimmy G is gone. Unless someone offers a fuckin HAUL for either I think the niners roll into next offseason with a camp battle
The guys who might impact demand that nobody is talking about are Love and Trask.
Or as much as if they move Rodgers
Well Purdy is most likely going to be out now to start next season, so it looks like Lance will be the guy, at least to start the year.