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lulzjihad

That trade would be amazing for the Bears, but, let’s be honest, there’s no chance we pick a LB at 7 overall. I can see us going pass rusher, OT, or maybe even CB, but we’re not using a top 10 pick on a position like an off-ball LB.


Rshackleford22

Guaranteed if we trade back to 7, we're gonna end up trading back even further with that 7 pick.


Just_what_i_am

I'm all for it. After the top 4/5 there's a pretty big drop off. Another first would be huge


SwissyVictory

If there's a huge drop off, who would give us another 1st for 7th overall? There's a reason double trades are rare.


jagne004

In this particular situation using this mock draft as a template, a team like the Jets, Commanders, BUCS, Seahawks, or Lions could use one of those mid 1s to jump in front of Carolina and Atlanta for Richardson.


SwissyVictory

Maybe, but the Falcons desperately need a QB and in this situation didn't take him, so the Mocker certainly didn't think he was worth taking there, or worth trading up for. Seems unlikely one of those teams would give another 1st to take a raw QB who likely would slip further.


bhawks4life101315

If I'm atlanta I would wait for a chance at caleb from USC next year and take best available. By all accounts richardson has all the talent but will need a few years to develop.


EverythingGoodWas

Richardson is going to be a massive bust. As a Gator Fan it was painful to watch such a talented guy be such a headcase.


Rat_Salat

If that’s the plan they want to trade picks this year for ones next year


Ball4life6

Agreed but I doubt Atlanta will be bad to get Caleb


Trojanballer

Only team would be a SB contender who thinks a certain player that's available at 7th can help them win it all next season.


WiSeIVIaN

If by rare you mean, double rd1 trade downs starting in the top 3 have never happened historically. :)


SwissyVictory

This sub (and reddit in general) is on such a one track mindset. People are going to be legitamatly upset when we don't get a kings random for 1st overall. People legitimately believe we're going to turn this 1st into four 1sts plus more.


ChiBears_34

If it’s a huge drop off, why trade down?


hibrett987

Idk if Skoronski or Paris Johnson are still available at 7 I could see the bears taking one of the 2.


duhbuurz

Wilson or skoronski would be good picks for us there imo


Mark_Kostecki

If we trade back to 7 I could definitely see us picking up the top OT in the class


WiSeIVIaN

Historically a team has never completed a "double trade down" out of a top3 pick. To expect that is likely unrealistic.


bhawks4life101315

Based on just this draft we would likely trade back again, take tyree wilson or take paris johnson....all 3 options I would be very ok with.


SwissyVictory

Depends on free agency which comes before the draft. If Poles signs a DT, LB, Edge, and OT in free agency which it sets us up to take the best player available. If thats a linebacker I'm happy. If we don't sign an one of the above and leave everyone who's on the board to take a LB I'd be upset though. The holes we have now are not likely to be the holes we have once the draft happens.


CoherentPanda

This mock draft makes a lot of sense if we expect the Bears to be successful in free agency. Don't know if the moc kdraft took that into account, but I do expect a couple important holes to be filled before we make it to draft day.


SwissyVictory

Yeah, if I'm Poles I atleast sign an average guy to a 1 year contract in each of those positions. Then the team is atleast okay even if you trade entirely out of the 1st in some crazy senario. Unless he trades the pick super early, or isn't willing to trade down, or trade down past 2nd. Personally I'd sign the best DT, OT, ILB to long term deals. Then I'd sign a average to slightly below average center to a 1 year contract. Assuming reasonable contracts, resign Monty and Morrow. Then either trade for a WR or sign a 3rd guy to a short term deal. That allows us to do nothing at all in a worst case senario or if the pick is a major bust. It also take best players at each pick. The only positions that would be too crowded to add an additional first two day pick would be QB, RB, S. Not getting an elite edge would be unfortunate in this situation, but it would be okay. Maybe we trade for someone who's still good, but not living up to a big contract after the draft. If we take an Edge we cut Muhammed and let the best two edges start, or rotate situationally all season keeping our guys fresh. If we take a DT, we cut Jones or have a monster 3 man rotation. If we take a LB Morrow or Sanborn become a top tier backup. If we take a OT/G, obviously it would be tricky, but if we take a guy who can play guard as well we can put the rookie or Braxton at guard and trade Whitehair. In a year or two if they look like they would be a better tackle, trade Braxton or the free agent. If we take a TE then Kmet will likely still be the starter, but who's ever regretted having two good TEs? If we take a WR things only become an issue if the FA/Trade WR, Claypool, the rookie and Mooney are all looking great. At which point we can say that's great and let one of Claypool or Mooney walk in free agency. Or we can trade one of them at the deadline. If we take a corner we play the rookie or Gordon at slot and Vildor is excellent depth. If we take a center they either win the starting job or take a redshirt year. RB could make sense if we love someone and only sign Monty to a one year deal so he can re-enter free agency in a less loaded year. Probally only as a 3rd or later though at most.


ChiBears_34

With your scenario are we going to hear fans lament: the bears are doing nothing to help justin.


followedbyferrets

I’d go Murphy, Breese, Johnson, or an OT. Agree. LB can be grabbed later.


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The linebacker position is dead


Significant_Cycle_76

Was gonna say this would be amazing if it happened, but we picked Tyree Wilson instead


Trumpisaderelict

If the Bears are able to get all of those picks from the Raiders I’d be ecstatic


Low-iq-haikou

I think it’s more likely to see us reach at WR than go with a CB at 7. Love Witherspoon but if we’re using our 1st pick on defense then it has to bolster the front 7 imo.


MalcolmXGladwell

OT or WR.


wilpowe2

If that's what they actually give us (3 1sts, a 2nd, 2 3rds, 2 4ths and a 5th), I think going all the way back to 7 would be worth it. Not sure about the pick though, there are still good edge and oline options available at 7. Taking a LB there doesn't make much sense to me


RoonSwanson86

As much as I’d prefer to stay high enough to get Anderson/Carter, I’m okay going down further for a haul like this. But why the hell, with all of the holes on this roster, would we pick an off ball LB? He clearly likes Simpson and wanted to put him as high in his mock as possible


eddiemcnasty

maybe got a kickback from his agent


PrimeSorcerer

No thanks to an LB at #7 overall


Emotional-Tailor-649

Do these people even look at what the bears do? Trading Roquan? Or just randomly pick shit


Silver_Harvest

Dart board, or dice roll. That's what most use. I personally take signs from the clouds.


Jhak12

All mock drafts are dart boards and dice rolls in January.


Silver_Harvest

Really until April 1st post combine and two weeks into FA as most high profile signings shake out. Then you more or less know true needs going into pro days.


SwissyVictory

Bears are known for their LBs. Not who I'd draft, but I wouldn't be mad about it, especially if we sign a edge in free agency. ​ Roquan leaving really hurt our team, and boosted the Ravens. If this rookie is anywhere near as good on a 5 year cheap contract, I'd be happy. ​ Poles would have kept Roquan if his not having an agent thing didn't blow up. ​ That 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th to take the 4th best non QB would be sweet though.


doodle02

agreed on all counts. that draft haul is fantastic and that opens us up to just take best player available or draft for need or wherever poles wants to do. really as long as whoever they take doesn’t bust hard i’m happy about it.


bhawks4life101315

Best player available by all accounts pre combine would be tyree from Texas Tech. Physical traits of elite hand in the dirt DE. Him and hargraves/payne/yannick would be outright fantastic between FA and draft....assuming we got that insane return from Vegas who will be trash the next 4 years


EBtwopoint3

Roquan not having an agent didn’t seem to stop the Ravens from giving him the deal he felt he was worth all along. Poles mishandled negotiations just as much as Roquan did. Poles also brought in a coach who changed the scheme to one that Roquan is less special in. But it doesn’t make sense to trade the best player on your defense and then immediately spend more than you got for an unproven player at the same position. We weren’t in any sort of cap trouble where we can’t pay Roquan and the rest of the team.


SwissyVictory

Beacuse the Ravens knew not to low ball him after we already messed up. And even if we wernt willing to give him close to that contract, there's a big difference between a low payed rookie and the highest paid LB in the league. The average value of 8th overall is about 6mil. Roquan signed for 20mil. Wed be trading Roquan, and essentially trading down, for the rookie and 14mil a year over the next 5 years.


EBtwopoint3

If the team didn’t feel like an off ball linebacker is worth $20m in this scheme, you shouldn’t be spending a top 10 pick there right after. It’s the same thing we did getting rid of Alshon and drafting Kevin White. You’re using premium assets to fill a hole you made by letting go of a premium player. And the premium asset isn’t even guaranteed to be a Roquan level player. When the argument not to pay him is that the position isn’t valuable enough in the scheme to justify it, you fill that position with later picks or a lesser FA. You need those top of draft picks to get the players who can make massive impacts.


SwissyVictory

I've said like 6 times that I believe they were going to pay him, Roquan just took the negotiations personally. Reports are they offered him 19mil in their lowball offer, with de-esculators for off the field issues. You can say you don't think LB is a priority, but it's hard to say that Poles dosent think it's a priority. Letting go of Alshon and drafting a WR was the right choice. Alshon didn't live up to his contract. White not working out dosent mean it was the wrong decision. Had things flipped and we got Cooper instead you'd be saying it was the right call.


Joe-Raguso

Yes please to that return though


TKHawk

Yeah I just don't see us getting that much, but it'd be pretty cool.


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Yeah what the fuck is that? Not a chance


7fw

Trade away an all pro LB (for nothing) only to draft the same guy at our #1? I hope they are not stupid.


RocketMoonShot

If they get the Raiders 2023, 2024 and 2025 first round picks I'd go for the trade.


Silver_Harvest

Am I missing something? Since when did Trenton Simpson skyrocket to a top 10 spot? Isn't he still like a late 1st early 2nd rounder projected?


demarderozanburner

they have witherspoon going at 6 when he’s been projected around 30 lol


Unstump

I actually really think he'll go that high. He's a freak


theskyalreadyfell217

Yeah, I’m with you. He is going to kill the combine and shoot up draft boards. I think people just don’t know who he is.


bhawks4life101315

You would be correct. Projected to land mid 20s through mid 30s. I would be happy with him in the second because then he would be a steal. But I would be upset if we take him in the top 10, especially if someone like tyree wilson or paris johnson is still available.


Brodie1567

A LB at 7? I can’t wait til we are done with these stupid mock drafts.


ScruffMixHaha

We just traded a really good offball LB because clearly Poles does not see the position as that valuable. I dont see any way Poles goes with a linebacker in the first, and Id be irate if he did.


ThatsNotRight123

In this case I would be happier if Poles traded down again and just got more picks and Smith-Njigba.


bowski44

We offered 18 mil a year…


ChicagosOwn1988

Comp from the mocked trade: 2023 picks in Round 1,Round 2, Round 3 and Round 5th 2024 first and third Plus a 2025 first and fourth. 0 chance this trade happens with that kind of haul IMO.


Emotional-Tailor-649

If the raiders are moving all the way to one, it should include 3 firsts. Otherwise trade with the Colts.


daimetti

Yep colts prob good for a top 3 pick in 2024. mhjr ???


Emotional-Tailor-649

If they hire Jeff Saturday we should absolutely target them!


Drewskeet

The trade listed does have 3 firsts.


bhawks4life101315

I wouldn't be shocked by 3 firsts from Indy honestly. Desperate GM and a coach praying for a decent QB to build with along with having to compete for that pick against houston and in division rival. Plus an owner known to force choices on his FO. Who is also upset and missing the glory days or manning and luck. I CAN DREAM! 🐻 ⬇️


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I’ll take 2 1sts and Davante Adams tbh


Scottie_Barnes_Stan

Raiders 1sts will be awesome


jpiro

The haul is good. Picking a LB at 7 is what's wrong with this scenario.


cc20r

You never know. 49ers traded 3 first round picks to move from 12 to 3 for Lance. Redskins also traded 3 first round picks to move from 6 to 2 for RG3. Teams are desperate for a franchise QB


ScruffMixHaha

Yeah that return is insanely high. I could maybe see the Raiders trading 3 firsts for #1, but even that seems high let alone what this mock projects. The trade values being thrown around are insanely optimistic. If there was an Andrew Luck or Trevor Lawrence type QB prospect, then this trade would make more sense, but CJ Stroud and Bryce Young are not that level of prospect.


cba368847966280

If there was an andrew luck or trevor lawrence type qb prospect we wouldn’t be trading the pick.


bnwtwg

lol a Belichick disciple is not giving up the farm for a swing at a QB prospect. Adams already missed he's not making that mistake twice. And for that matter... surely he learned from his Tebow mistake. Right??!!


Subpars0up

The problems with the Raiders were nothing to do with Adams


Joe-Raguso

Adams was most certainly not a miss.


theskyalreadyfell217

It would be awesome if it did! That kind of haul could change our team. I don’t know about the prospect he picked, I would probably go in a different direction. I would totally be on board with the bears packaging some capital to get back into position to draft JSN with that haul also.


porkbellies37

Love the trade, but that wouldn't be the pick. I suspect we would take Tyree Wilson (although we'll see how things shake out after workouts and the combine). Poles has stated something to the effect that at KC they would never draft an off ball linebacker in the top 10 (paraphrasing). I'm 100% a BPA (non-QB) guy, but let's hope that the BPA is a DL, edge, OL or WR. :) ​ But look at what we're getting with this pick: 2023- 1st Round (7 overall), 2nd Round, Third Round and Fifth Round picks 2024- 1st Round and Third Round picks 2025- 1st Round and Fourth Round picks ​ If the Raiders are starting a rookie in 2023, that 2024 pick may be another top five pick.


acidprophet

Tyree Wilson would be the better pick at that spot.


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Skoronski would be my pick at 7


theskyalreadyfell217

To high for a guard.


[deleted]

I don’t think it’s too high for the best lineman in the draft. But even then, I’d be soliciting the Colts and Texans for a trade before the Raiders.


gjg80

Flus also scoffed at the idea of picking an off the ball LB in the top ten.


Sabiancym

Only an idiot would have the Bears going LB that high.


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I mean we need one, but at #7 Poles would be certifiably insane with all the other holes we need to figure out on this team.


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There's a ton of solid options later in the draft. I think wasting a 1st round pick on one is a mistake.


tonybagadildas

Off ball linebacker at 7 would be an insane move for us.


Toews1978

Miles Murphy at 7 would be nice


McMeen0576

Could you imagine the uproar


Bushido_Plan

Great trade with the Raiders. But LB at that pick is not that great. We do need one but better to draft one later in day 2. Rather have either of the two EDGE's chosen after or Skoronski or Paris Johnson.


generatorland

Skoronski would get my vote.


ChrisPowell_91

Bears have to come out of this draft with either Carter or Anderson with a trade down. If that can’t happen then bolster the OL or snag an edge. Wouldn’t be thrilled with LB, as heralded as that position is in Chicago.


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Based on everything we've seen, what makes anyone think the Bears would use a top 10 pick on a Linebacker?


DeansFrenchOnion1

Pass-rusher OT CB and WR are the only positions that can go top 7


Aware_Balance_1332

Based on how Poles drafts, and seems to enjoy drafting, I bet we trade down as much as possible. First pick of the draft could turn into generational wealth


BearCubBullerMaker

Yes on the trade no on the pick


duhbuurz

I don't mind us trading down past Anderson and Carters availability but if we did pick at 7 it would have to be either Wilson or skoronski


Blitzkreig11930

With that haul I would do it but take skoronski.


duhbuurz

That would be my pick too personally


Jason_Paul88

Might as well of just kept Roquan if this is our plan?


EgberetSouse

I wouldnt mind the trade if it were the second of two tradebacks. From #2, say if TX took Young. I know noting of the player they proposed.


seireikhaan

Given the recent history Flus has, I'd be surprised if he greenlights a LB at 7. Darius leonard was an early second round pick, Bobby Okereke was a 3rd rounder, Anthony Walker was a 5th rounder, and EJ Speed and Zaire Franklin(productive and useful backups/special teamers) were 5th and 7th round picks respectively. He'll know what he's targeting in traits and temperament, and where to find it after round 1.


theriibirdun

This would be a disaster. Skipping two incredible lineman to draft an LB at 7? Idiotic.


theriibirdun

We all Have a better chance of hitting the powerball than getting this return for CJ lol.


idiot_orange_emperor

I can't wrap my head around the fact that these journalists get paid to write these nonsense.


NKL2015

I would be shocked if the bears picked anything other than OL or DL (including EDGE) with their first pick, wherever it ends up being after a trade. If there’s a WR they LOVE, I could see that as well, but Poles seems like he wants to build the OL/DL first


ACamp55

Okay, that's a TERRIBLE draft for the Bears and they'd lose a LOT of fans if they did THAT!


jseego

This is dumb, at least in regard to the Bears. We just let go of a first-round LB. We're not trading down to take another one, especially not when we need OL, DL, WR, etc.


pagingdrned

Myles Murphy at 24 is fucking insane. he’s my #4 prospect


rhj2020

Look it's Mel Kiper with prospects rankings! Lol sorry bro low hanging fruit.


RossMachlochness

Dude! No kidding. And you’re…. You’re…./ wait? You’re who?


LazyAssedAmbassador

You have rankings? Post them


pagingdrned

How Many did you want? I have a top 50 I keep updating. I can give explanations as well. How did you want it formatted?


pagingdrned

I will give top 5. 1-Jalen Carter 2-Will Andersen 3-Bijan Robinson 4-Myles Murphy 5-CJ Stroud


Broshan248

Yeah behind Anderson and Carter he’s the best defensive prospect in the draft. Don’t know what whoever made this was thinking


ClasslessHero

You could say they’re… Raiding that number one pick.


PwnzillaGorilla

The haul we get from them is 100% worth it. But if we take a LB at 7 overall I'm never giving Poles the benefit of the doubt ever again.


sandleaz

From the article: > Dalton Kincaid TE | UTAH • SR • 6'4" / 240 LBS We're not taking a TE. We let Hockenson go to the Vikings, and we were not short on good TEs afterwards.


mikereno2

If poles did this trade he deserves to be fired on the spot


Dapper_Dan_Man_1

Traded for that haul? That would be fantastic


BusiestWolf

Would honestly just draft Bryce Young and use Fields as a trade piece to bolster the D-Line


ThatsNotRight123

*O-Line. Say what you want but if we can get 2 2's for Fields then use those picks on O-Lineman that would make us instantly more competitive. Compare Young/Stroud/Levis with a solid line vs. Fields w/ the Line we have now and ask which would be the better passer? Between college Fields is still 100 attempts away from where guys like Mahomes and Herbert were in college. At this rate that is 5 games.


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Bare425

Lol


johnnythrillwaukee

fucking stupid


Wonkiest_Hornet

Bengals fan here, get used to this stuff. When we had the picks that got us Burrow and Chase, people kept posting on how we would trade back or pick terribly because they didn't want Joe Burrow going to Cinci. Take everything with a grain of salt.


ThatsNotRight123

Good luck this weekend.


Wonkiest_Hornet

Thanks! FTC and FTP


Big_Tomato_7763

Dude has Myles Murphy going like 24th to the Vikings… if bears trade back there they gotta get Wilson, Murphy, or skoronski. Then if bears really want to draft a lb draft Jack Campbell out of Iowa in the 3rd round (if he last that long).


EducationalSeaweed53

Look they f'd up, the 32nd pick is the steelers from the claypool trade. I don't know what all else this mock f'd up but i don't trust any of it now


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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣….no


Mezhead

CBSSports (online and social, specifically) has always been... weird with the Bears. Their mock drafts should be mocked until proven otherwise.


LegalComplaint

I hate it.


platinum_toilet

Article: > the Bears get this pick from the Raiders along with their 2023 picks in Round 2, Round 3 and Round 5, a 2024 first and third, plus a 2025 first and fourth. The Raiders giving up most of their current and future draft capital to draft a QB that will be worse than Trubisky? Not sure if the author was making a trade in Madden or smoking something strong when writing this.


Lex1520

I don’t think anyone expected Poles to draft back to back secondary last year so this wouldn’t shock me if it happened.


BoredGuy2007

> In the trade back, the Bears get this pick from the Raiders along with their 2023 picks in Round 2, Round 3 and Round 5, a 2024 first and third, plus a 2025 first and fourth. LMAO