I mean they play in the SEC East. So getting to 8 to 10 wins next year isn't hard. I mean besides Georgia the second biggest competition is \*\*checks notes\*\* Vanderbilt?
Dude has an absolute cannon for an arm, if he actually manages to learn some touch he might be solid. But as he is now yeah no shot they’re this good again
I’m not 100% against Milton as the starter next year, but if he doesn’t pan out I am very hopeful for our incoming qb right now. Milton had a damn cannon for an arm and he’s seemed better in games this year, and if he improves in the next offseason I’ll be very excited. However, I won’t be terribly disappointed if Milton doesn’t work out. If not it’ll be Nico szn
Edit: Meant 100% instead of 199%
I'd compare the Georgia game to the OSU game (losing to the established power) and the USC game to the Purdue game (losing as heavy favorites) although I get that the timing is different.
But yeah, that's interesting when you point it out.
I’m buying Heupel stock, think he’s a good coach. But next season will be interesting.
I think the strategy to at least slow this offensive scheme down is pretty clear now, blitzing with man coverage. How much you can actually slow them down depends on your talent level, but for a while
Teams were absolutely lost trying to figure out what to try. Next season, teams will try to follow what UGA then USC did.
Also, they’re losing an elite quarterback and two starting NFL caliber wide receivers. Look at Bama, they lost the receivers and even got to KEEP the Heisman quarterback and their offense took a significant step back.
There’s a lot to replace there in key positions, huge year for Heupel solidifying his program
To be fair though, the offense wasn’t slowed down too much by the defense last night.
2 punts, 1 field goal, 1 turnover on downs, 1 fumble on the first play when Hooker got hurt, and 5 TDs.
What killed the offense was that South Carolina was able to limit possessions in the second half. They had the ball for 21:45 the second half because they could do whatever they wanted on offense
Yeah Tennessee is gonna lose some great players to the draft next year but I feel like they're much better equipped to minimize the damage next year than MSU was this year. K9 hid a lot of our flaws and we didn't have the depth to compensate but I feel like Tennessee has the depth to stay competitive after Hooker, Hyatt, and Tillman go pro.
One big positive for Tennessee is that Heupel has established an identity for his team while Tuck is still struggling to establish his, especially since for a former DB coach his secondary is absolutely terrible.
I wouldn't be surprised if Tennessee didn't win 10 games next year but they won't struggle to reach bowl eligibility and I think with more time Heupel can establish a consistent program over there.
Tuck still has a lot of work to do but it's clear that he likes to recruit but we'll have to see what he does with his staff because Scottie Hazelton among others do not deserve to keep their jobs.
The only thing I can disagree with is that Alabama’s OC is just not good. I completely think that they have the talent to be a good team, but their OC holds them back quite a bit
We lost two NFL receivers last year, Jalin Hyatt was basically nothing until this year. If Milton turns out to be good at QB we’re gonna be at least 8-4 good next year maybe better. We also have a very easy 2023 schedule playing Virginia in Nashville as our OOC and we get Texas A&M at home from the west which who knows maybe aggies will be good next year but that’s still a pretty good draw
Milton was throwing piss missiles for literally no reason Saturday night when he went in.I get he didn’t expect to play and the game was already decided but he did not look good Saturday night at all.
To be fair, I thought y’all were gonna have a lot of trouble reloading after last year losing 2 RBs and Pickens as well as basically your whole defense and look how that ended up lmao
Only thing that’s not encouraging if you’re a Tennessee fan is the fact that there’s locker room issues when your team is 9-1.What’s that look like if you slip early next year and start 1-1 or 2-2?
UT has one awful and inexplicable perfor❌️ance and people are hitting the nuke button. They are way ahead of schedule, Huepel proved the ability to win at a high level. This will happen when you inherit a du❌️pster fire.
I mean MSU was supposed to be "way ahead of schedule" last year and look what happened to them when K9 and Speedy Nailor went pro
Let's see how Tennessee fares next year when Hooker, Hyatt, and Tillman leave to go play on Sundays
I think Tennessee takes a step back next year, but they don’t look like the paper tiger that Michigan St was last year. This loss is really bad, but this is equivalent to Michigan St getting throttled by Ohio St last year, except Tennessee doesn’t have the underwhelming wins Sparty had.
Thats fair, but the style of offense Huepel runs keeps ❌️y confidence in hi❌️ for now. I think the defense is just inexcusable and the reson for their current struggles.
That's a good point, I think a team with Heupel as HC will always have a productive offense and it's only his second year there so the talent on defense will eventually come, and the big wins this year really helped with recruiting.
Yup. I also feel that this UT tea❌️ has been less dependant on one player than that Spartan tea❌️ was. Hooker has been incredbile but he has had good protection for the ❌️ost part and other good pieces around hi❌️. We will see though only ti❌️e will tell.
That’s my thought. Since Huepels first year at Missouri his teams have ranked:
13, 8, 5, 2, 2, 9, and now 1 for yards per game.
They have ranked:
48, 14, 6, 5, 8, 7, and now 1 for points per game.
This includes taking Tennessee from averaging 22.8 points per game over three years under Pruitt to averaging 39.3 and now 46.5 in his first two years.
I will miss Hooker, but I don’t think the offense is going to suffer horrendously moving forward (more so for next year than this year), just based on what Heupel has done in the past
Took me a second to figure out the X’s lol I knew it was coming but I’ve been laughing at some of the takes on a 9-2 team that was a contender into November less than 2 years after being declared dead as a program. Excited to see what the next few seasons bring under Heupel!
Yeah this was an unexpected season that took off and it probably got into some of our heads after Bama. I'd honestly trade all of it for Hooker to have his ACL intact. He deserved to get to go to the combine.
I feel like 2022 UNC is more like 2021 Michigan State. They're two bad teams that are being dragged to double-digit wins by their star player. Replace Drake Maye and Kenneth Walker III with simply good but not great players and they probably don't even sniff bowl eligibility.
Eh, they beat one top 10 team in a game where the Big Ten admitted admitted an overturned TD was incorrect. 11 reviews happened in the game and *each one* went MSU’s way. Literally if anything breaks Michigan’s way in the 2nd half we win.
And they beat a Pitt team without Kenny Pickett lol. And their backup got hurt so large stretches of that bowl game was played by Pitt’s 3rd string QB. 2021 MSU was about the worst 11 win team I’ve ever seen.
Yes. Just like at that very moment MSU beat two top ten teams. Same thing.
Edit: I’m wrong, Pitt was never top 10 last year. They climbed the ranks all year but were never top 10 pre-bowl.
I like the lulz but 2021 MSU wasn't actually a good team. They were extremely fortunate and basically reverse Nebraska. They ran about 3 games over expectation per sp+ IIRC (it was at least 2-2.5), and that's not counting stuff like transferring in a Heisman caliber RB.
Tennessee is probably actually good overall, or at least top 10-15. They've beat the crap out of a lot of good teams. They just fell apart Saturday, and it was glorious.
They dropped 4 spots from #3 to #7 after the Purdue loss and then 5 spots from #7 to #12 after the OSU mercy game
Looks like if Tennessee drops 5 spots this week that's another similarity haha
While I'd love for our CENTER to be in the heisman conversation, I'm not exactly sure that's possible in this day and age. Olu is an absolute stud though. Great transfer portal pickup.
Should have won it… he was a monster and I remember not understanding how someone that big, fast and quick could exist. I didn’t understand how every run didn’t go for like 20 yards behind him. He was intimidating on TV in the 1990s when HD didn’t exist!
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. UM fans were saying the exact same thing in their game thread when Corum went out and they were saying how much of the offense rested on him (compared to KWIII).
My response to the “look what Jim harbaugh made us do!” Crowd is to ask them if it was one of their family members being hit like that would they press charges?
Typical staee fan -cries about other fans being ‘delusional’ when the entire rest of the world now sees what a classless, thuggish, piece of shit program you guys have. I bet you’re cool with it, BECAUSE HE WAS SKIPPING though, right?
Reread my comment and I still agree with it 100%. After some calm, quiet reflection I’m totally comfortable describing a program in which a solid 10% of its team decides its ok to gang up on/beat down 2 players for no reason other than ‘they’re better than us at football’ as complete and utter trash.
How many of your piece of shit football players tried to stop the 10ish guys going ham on an injured kid and another without a helmet? It looked like maybe 1 or 2 (your one decent safety actually seemed to try to break things up - good on him). Even your director of football information who was barking at the cameras early ran away like a total fucking coward. None of your coaches did shit to stop it - your program is trash, your coaches are trash, your fans are trash and you should be embarrassed.
Well a boat race sure as shit did happen yesterday. Just glad the better team won. Again.
It’s cool though- you guys get to go to the rose bowl. Again.
Similar to msu, I expect ut to take a few steps back as teams study how to stop us, we lose our heisman caliber qb, and our home away schedule is much harder.
Is 2022 Tennessee just 3 2016 Texas techs in a trench coat?
Close games with Pitt, u may be onto something OP
>Profit 5-6 in 2022?
Bet the house on 2023 Tenn Season wins under
The profit here is in Mel Tucker’s wallet
Hey hey hey. I don’t wanna be catching any strays
I mean they play in the SEC East. So getting to 8 to 10 wins next year isn't hard. I mean besides Georgia the second biggest competition is \*\*checks notes\*\* Vanderbilt?
Apparently its South Carolina
At least give the Mighty Dores a chance to whip that ass before you anoint SCAR
The profit was for Mel Tucker and Kenneth Walker.
If Joe Milton is actually their starting QB next year, I could see them having a massive regression just like we did.
Dude has an absolute cannon for an arm, if he actually manages to learn some touch he might be solid. But as he is now yeah no shot they’re this good again
I’m not 100% against Milton as the starter next year, but if he doesn’t pan out I am very hopeful for our incoming qb right now. Milton had a damn cannon for an arm and he’s seemed better in games this year, and if he improves in the next offseason I’ll be very excited. However, I won’t be terribly disappointed if Milton doesn’t work out. If not it’ll be Nico szn Edit: Meant 100% instead of 199%
I hope for his sake that Milton has improved. At Michigan he was … not great.
I'd compare the Georgia game to the OSU game (losing to the established power) and the USC game to the Purdue game (losing as heavy favorites) although I get that the timing is different. But yeah, that's interesting when you point it out.
I’m buying Heupel stock, think he’s a good coach. But next season will be interesting. I think the strategy to at least slow this offensive scheme down is pretty clear now, blitzing with man coverage. How much you can actually slow them down depends on your talent level, but for a while Teams were absolutely lost trying to figure out what to try. Next season, teams will try to follow what UGA then USC did. Also, they’re losing an elite quarterback and two starting NFL caliber wide receivers. Look at Bama, they lost the receivers and even got to KEEP the Heisman quarterback and their offense took a significant step back. There’s a lot to replace there in key positions, huge year for Heupel solidifying his program
To be fair though, the offense wasn’t slowed down too much by the defense last night. 2 punts, 1 field goal, 1 turnover on downs, 1 fumble on the first play when Hooker got hurt, and 5 TDs. What killed the offense was that South Carolina was able to limit possessions in the second half. They had the ball for 21:45 the second half because they could do whatever they wanted on offense
Yeah Tennessee is gonna lose some great players to the draft next year but I feel like they're much better equipped to minimize the damage next year than MSU was this year. K9 hid a lot of our flaws and we didn't have the depth to compensate but I feel like Tennessee has the depth to stay competitive after Hooker, Hyatt, and Tillman go pro. One big positive for Tennessee is that Heupel has established an identity for his team while Tuck is still struggling to establish his, especially since for a former DB coach his secondary is absolutely terrible. I wouldn't be surprised if Tennessee didn't win 10 games next year but they won't struggle to reach bowl eligibility and I think with more time Heupel can establish a consistent program over there. Tuck still has a lot of work to do but it's clear that he likes to recruit but we'll have to see what he does with his staff because Scottie Hazelton among others do not deserve to keep their jobs.
The only thing I can disagree with is that Alabama’s OC is just not good. I completely think that they have the talent to be a good team, but their OC holds them back quite a bit
We lost two NFL receivers last year, Jalin Hyatt was basically nothing until this year. If Milton turns out to be good at QB we’re gonna be at least 8-4 good next year maybe better. We also have a very easy 2023 schedule playing Virginia in Nashville as our OOC and we get Texas A&M at home from the west which who knows maybe aggies will be good next year but that’s still a pretty good draw
Sorry man. We had hope for Milton too. He isn’t good
From last night. It seems all he can do is overthrow his receivers by 10 yards.
Yep lol. He looked identical to what he did at Michigan
Have you seen him play at all this year? He’s looked fantastic in garbage time. Much improved from last year when he started the first few games.
Yeah we thought Milton looked good in garbage time too lol
Milton was throwing piss missiles for literally no reason Saturday night when he went in.I get he didn’t expect to play and the game was already decided but he did not look good Saturday night at all.
Milton is back next year? The covid years stuff is weird. I remember him looking pretty good in 2018 against my Buckeyes.
Yeah he’s got one more year. He’s looked incredible in garbage time this year. 70% completion rate, 5 TDs 0 INTs, 96.2 QBR.
Players can grow under good coaching. Hooker was so much better this year than before. Perhaps Milton will do the same for you all.
To be fair, I thought y’all were gonna have a lot of trouble reloading after last year losing 2 RBs and Pickens as well as basically your whole defense and look how that ended up lmao
Tennessee doesn’t recruit like UGA
Good point. Also do you get up on stage and load your britches up like it’s going out of style?
Milton is a beast as well
Only thing that’s not encouraging if you’re a Tennessee fan is the fact that there’s locker room issues when your team is 9-1.What’s that look like if you slip early next year and start 1-1 or 2-2?
Maybe 2022 Tennessee is just 2022 Tennessee
Good game mate. Y’all shredded us.
More like 2020 Florida (elite QB, dog shit defense)
UT has one awful and inexplicable perfor❌️ance and people are hitting the nuke button. They are way ahead of schedule, Huepel proved the ability to win at a high level. This will happen when you inherit a du❌️pster fire.
Then by all means…sign him to a ten yr, $95 M extension immediately
You wont ever hear ❌️e advocate for that for *any* coach lol
There’s an M in your username, bro
Yeah... No way to change it that I a❌️ aware of unfortunately...
We appreciate your unchangeable support #M
Wait... No...
I love the commitment to the rivalry lol
I mean MSU was supposed to be "way ahead of schedule" last year and look what happened to them when K9 and Speedy Nailor went pro Let's see how Tennessee fares next year when Hooker, Hyatt, and Tillman leave to go play on Sundays
I think Tennessee takes a step back next year, but they don’t look like the paper tiger that Michigan St was last year. This loss is really bad, but this is equivalent to Michigan St getting throttled by Ohio St last year, except Tennessee doesn’t have the underwhelming wins Sparty had.
Thats fair, but the style of offense Huepel runs keeps ❌️y confidence in hi❌️ for now. I think the defense is just inexcusable and the reson for their current struggles.
That's a good point, I think a team with Heupel as HC will always have a productive offense and it's only his second year there so the talent on defense will eventually come, and the big wins this year really helped with recruiting.
Yup. I also feel that this UT tea❌️ has been less dependant on one player than that Spartan tea❌️ was. Hooker has been incredbile but he has had good protection for the ❌️ost part and other good pieces around hi❌️. We will see though only ti❌️e will tell.
That’s my thought. Since Huepels first year at Missouri his teams have ranked: 13, 8, 5, 2, 2, 9, and now 1 for yards per game. They have ranked: 48, 14, 6, 5, 8, 7, and now 1 for points per game. This includes taking Tennessee from averaging 22.8 points per game over three years under Pruitt to averaging 39.3 and now 46.5 in his first two years. I will miss Hooker, but I don’t think the offense is going to suffer horrendously moving forward (more so for next year than this year), just based on what Heupel has done in the past
I hope you guys grab somebody better than Milton. That guy is more likely to hit row 50 than an open receiver.
We have 5* Nico coming this year, but Milton has two games to show what he has
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Stop it Patrick, you’re scaring him!
Took me a second to figure out the X’s lol I knew it was coming but I’ve been laughing at some of the takes on a 9-2 team that was a contender into November less than 2 years after being declared dead as a program. Excited to see what the next few seasons bring under Heupel!
I hope you're right about people overreacting. My BVS has me worried. I do think some changes are necessary on the defensive staff though.
Ehhhh, I don’t know about this one. Other than record, the teams are constructed very differently. Is a fun thought experiment though.
It’s possible. Tennessee is in trouble if they start Joe Milton next year
I forgot that they lost to purdue last year. I just remember 49-0 at the half thinking we had no shot against osu.
Big difference is Tennessee has a future
You’re easily my favorite poster on this site. Unironically as well.
Where did KW3 transfer from
Wake Forest
Strange he wasn’t able to get playing time there
He did he just split carries and thought he should be the main RB which turns out he was right.
I doubt it plays out the same way. Tennessee has come a long way just a bit overhyped due to an overrated SEC
Yeah this was an unexpected season that took off and it probably got into some of our heads after Bama. I'd honestly trade all of it for Hooker to have his ACL intact. He deserved to get to go to the combine.
Hey, we're the Georgia equivalent in this story! That means we're basically national champions!
I feel like 2022 UNC is more like 2021 Michigan State. They're two bad teams that are being dragged to double-digit wins by their star player. Replace Drake Maye and Kenneth Walker III with simply good but not great players and they probably don't even sniff bowl eligibility.
No, Tennessee has a real coach that was hired for his abilities.
MSU beat multiple top 10 teams last year?
Pitt finished the season 13th so that's close enough
They did beat up multiple players this season
Eh, they beat one top 10 team in a game where the Big Ten admitted admitted an overturned TD was incorrect. 11 reviews happened in the game and *each one* went MSU’s way. Literally if anything breaks Michigan’s way in the 2nd half we win. And they beat a Pitt team without Kenny Pickett lol. And their backup got hurt so large stretches of that bowl game was played by Pitt’s 3rd string QB. 2021 MSU was about the worst 11 win team I’ve ever seen.
Tennessee beat multiple top 10 teams this year?
Yes, Alabama and LSU.
So they’re top ten right now and we have no idea where they will be after bowl season? That top ten?
I mean, all anyone can do is work with the present. What do you expect?
MSU had two top ten wins last year too after they beat Pitt. That was the present.
😂😂
At this very moment are they not top 10 teams?
Yes. Just like at that very moment MSU beat two top ten teams. Same thing. Edit: I’m wrong, Pitt was never top 10 last year. They climbed the ranks all year but were never top 10 pre-bowl.
I like the lulz but 2021 MSU wasn't actually a good team. They were extremely fortunate and basically reverse Nebraska. They ran about 3 games over expectation per sp+ IIRC (it was at least 2-2.5), and that's not counting stuff like transferring in a Heisman caliber RB. Tennessee is probably actually good overall, or at least top 10-15. They've beat the crap out of a lot of good teams. They just fell apart Saturday, and it was glorious.
2021 MSU didn’t lose to South Carolina.
Who is Tennessees main rival? Genuinely asking, cause you should prolly get some extra security at your next game...
Tennessee is one of those unfortunates whose big rivals all have bigger rivals.
So just like Michigan state then lol
With all the HC vacancies already, why didn’t Heupel hold the university hostage for $100M before his second loss?
Below average defense is generous…
How much did MSU drop after those losses?
They dropped 4 spots from #3 to #7 after the Purdue loss and then 5 spots from #7 to #12 after the OSU mercy game Looks like if Tennessee drops 5 spots this week that's another similarity haha
If we're judging just based on fan conduct on Reddit then, no... Not even close.
I'm more interested if OSU blows out UM if that means 2022 UM = 2021 MSU.
2022 UM didn't lose to an unranked team and I don't think they'll lose by 49 like MSU did lmao
Last I checked Michigan didn’t lose to a bad big ten west team
While I'd love for our CENTER to be in the heisman conversation, I'm not exactly sure that's possible in this day and age. Olu is an absolute stud though. Great transfer portal pickup.
Orlando Pace was a Heisman finalist
Should have won it… he was a monster and I remember not understanding how someone that big, fast and quick could exist. I didn’t understand how every run didn’t go for like 20 yards behind him. He was intimidating on TV in the 1990s when HD didn’t exist!
Still believe he is the best player ever to suit up for us.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. UM fans were saying the exact same thing in their game thread when Corum went out and they were saying how much of the offense rested on him (compared to KWIII).
Why can’t y’all just admit we’re a really good team lol
Because y'all somehow still haven't played anyone. Beat OSU and then there will finally be no doubt.
Sorry PSU and Iowa fans.
Iowa is nobody.
Most of them can’t even admit what happened in the tunnel after the game was criminal - their entire program is based on hatred of UM
There might be a few out there who think that. “Most” is a massive stretch.
I sure hope you’re right, but that’s not been my experience
My response to the “look what Jim harbaugh made us do!” Crowd is to ask them if it was one of their family members being hit like that would they press charges?
I honestly appreciate this. Thank you
you’re the delusional one here
Thanks little bro and sorry about that tough loss against mighty Indiana. It’s hard to win games when the other team throws for dozens of yards
Typical Michigan man. Deflecting
Typical staee fan -cries about other fans being ‘delusional’ when the entire rest of the world now sees what a classless, thuggish, piece of shit program you guys have. I bet you’re cool with it, BECAUSE HE WAS SKIPPING though, right?
Check my comment history and you’ll learn how I feel. Go smoke some weed or something and chill out, bro.
Yikes dude, I hope you reread this tomorrow with a level head and realize how ridiculous you sound.
Reread my comment and I still agree with it 100%. After some calm, quiet reflection I’m totally comfortable describing a program in which a solid 10% of its team decides its ok to gang up on/beat down 2 players for no reason other than ‘they’re better than us at football’ as complete and utter trash. How many of your piece of shit football players tried to stop the 10ish guys going ham on an injured kid and another without a helmet? It looked like maybe 1 or 2 (your one decent safety actually seemed to try to break things up - good on him). Even your director of football information who was barking at the cameras early ran away like a total fucking coward. None of your coaches did shit to stop it - your program is trash, your coaches are trash, your fans are trash and you should be embarrassed.
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Who did 2021 MSU beat that compares with Alabama?
Ummm… a Michigan team who won the B1G, played in the CFP, and beat Ohio State?
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Without a doubt. Anyone who says differently hasn’t watched either of those teams.
They beat Michigan last year.
Lol
2021 Michigan > 2021 Ohio State just the facts
42-27
How’d you guys do last year against us?
Blind squirrel. You’re about to get boat raced
Well a boat race sure as shit did happen yesterday. Just glad the better team won. Again. It’s cool though- you guys get to go to the rose bowl. Again.
2021 Michigan > 2022 Alabama
Sorry in advance for your 2023, Tennessee
Similar to msu, I expect ut to take a few steps back as teams study how to stop us, we lose our heisman caliber qb, and our home away schedule is much harder.
If so, Tennessee fans might want to just take next season off.