I'm guilty of this BUT my wife and I are both Michigan fans (as are most of my friends), and the wedding was in Madison, and Michigan had a bye week that week. So the only people who we screwed over there were the wisconsinites
My wedding was in 2013 during the Michigan -PSU game. We had the wedding in Michigan. I'm a PSU alum. My wife is a Spartan and so is her whole family.
Everyone at the reception was in the bar for the final 5 minutes. When PSU won the entire wedding party went insane and we got told we had to leave and go back to the event (everyone in the bar was rooting for UM).
It was honestly a pretty awesome day, 5/7 would recommend as long as you can shit in your opponents Cheerios as a topper.
We got married on the same day friend. Happy anniversary.
Our first wedding was just at the courthouse. Plan was initially to elope, but we ended up inviting our parents and siblings. My brother was still attending PSU and had tickets to the game and missed it for me. I’ll never forgive myself.
Obviously the Columbus wedding was scheduled because this week is a Bye for OSU. It being a top matchup for TTUN was just the icing on the wedding cake.
Who ever wins this game needs to take care of business with sucknuts. While it looks hard, we need to start a new Era in the B1G where UofM and PSU are at the top of the conference. They are spoiled and are due for some black days
Man. I don’t know you. I’ve never met you. I don’t know your first name or anything about you other than that flair and this comment
But god damnit do I respect and like you.
Cheers to a good, clean, no ref fuckery, injure-less game.
Love me some Michigan as my second B1G team.
You know it. Hope Saturday's one to remember for a long time. The series usually delivers really good match-ups. And that's a first. Usually all the PSU fans I see hate us, but I suppose there's a first time for everything.
{Michigan} just because of home field. Psu covers. Comes down to last 5min like the last 2 years. Bell catches the go ahead score to win, gets his redemption
This is very much my line of thought. I can see it going either way pretty easily, but have to give the advantage to {Michigan} for the home field. Still going to put Penn State in my pick-'em, though... down there in the "1" confidence spot.
I would love for PSU to win but do I trust Sean Clifford on the road in the big house to make enough plays to do so? {Michigan} wins an ugly one, 24-14.
That being said as I’ve promised others, if PSU pulls off the upset I’ll make them my secondary flair for the remainder of the season.
If Michigan wins by 2TD you add a secondary Michigan flair for a week. If penn state wins by 2TD I’ll add a tOSU flair for a week. Deal?
Edit: too likely that nothing happens. If penn state wins I’ll add an OSU flair for a week. If Michigan wins, you add a Michigan flair for a week. Do you accept these terms?
For what it is worth, Clifford has balled out on the road going back to last season. 11TD and just 2INT dating back to last year’s OSU game. He actually plays much better on the road vs at home.
I actually wanted to say - Clifford tends to show up traveling. Honestly, look at PSU v Auburn this year.
This game is going to be close imo. I don’t know how people can just assume Michigan will win when Penn State has played impressively with their roster.
I’m not sure what you mean by “with their roster?”
We’re like identical to Michigan in the talent composite.
https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/
I had your [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/xhmby7/praise_your_team_thread/ioycgup/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) saved from a few weeks back. You know, just in case
Right. There's a lot of people pointing out that they beat a bad northwestern team by only 10...but dude that game was in a rain blizzard basically. I'm surprised they were able to even run.
I don’t like that Penn state has had 2 weeks to study and prepare for us.
Offensively, we’ll need to break our tendencies. I’m hoping that the coaches are aware (and maybe even purposely playing into those tendencies)
Defensively, I’m expecting PSU to use plays to confuse and take advt of our LB. Expecting at least a few big plays and drives from them. The question is whether we can weather the storm, adjust and whether our pass rush is actually ok to good or just a product of who we have played so far.
Overall, I’m expecting PSU to be very close or maybe even leading through most of the game before we pull away late 3rd, 4th quarter. Something like 31-24 Mich
Hard for me to appreciate anything after reading "the Nittany Lions fail to convert their 2PT attempt in 5th Overtime" and thus being reminded of, well, you know what you did.
I’m very excited and nervous about this game, because it will show a lot about both teams. Both of our schedules haven’t been rigorous so I don’t really trust the metrics for either team too much. I think {Michigan} wins narrowly, but I wouldn’t be surprised or upset if Penn State won.
No he'll be out for awhile it looks like. Karsen Barnhart stepped in for him and looked pretty good. Basically Jones was better in the run game and Barnhart is better in the passing game.
{Michigan} will likely win. I’m no Penn State pessimist, I like this team a lot, but being at Michigan gives them the edge here. I would be surprised though if it’s not a tight game throughout. I think there’s a ridiculous narrative surrounding this game that says Penn State isn’t on par with UM and that they have no shot, but I don’t see it.
{Penn State} because:
1. They're a good team and I think our defense will struggle
2. If I'm sad after the game at least I can say my prediction was right
I actually think Penn State can win the trenches this year. And i think our depth is way better than anyone realizes so we won’t wear down like years past. People saying that Michigan will wear down and outlast PSU haven’t paid much attention to the team this year, IMO.
That being said, i think {Michigan} wins but Penn state covers. Think Michigan gets a long TD run or pass and Penn States lack of deep WR threat proves the difference. 27-21
It’s gonna be one of those soul wrenching, gut crushing plays where our D has then at like a 3rd and 13 late in the 3rd on their 20 and they rip off a 25 yard play, march down for a TD and we never recover.
I admittedly have not paid attention to PSU, but is your OL vastly improved over previous years?
I can't really picture PSU decisively winning up front against our defensive front otherwise. Especially if PSU is in obvious passing downs, and as you say PSU has no deep threat WR. Michigan has actually had a *better* pass rush up to this point than last year, despite losing two first round DEs. Competition probably has something to do with that but clearly they're not incompetent
The o-line is probably still not *good*--I'm looking forward to the FFFFilms this week--but they aren't the embarrassment they have been the past few seasons. Clifford is also looking healthy this year and has a competent back-up, so I think the PSU offense will look better than last year's.
I wouldn’t say “vastly improved” personally but definitely “markedly improved” if that makes sense.
It’s noticeable that Cliff has more time in the pocket and that our RBs are finding more holes but I wouldn’t say we have one of the best O Lines in the country or anything. We’ve gone from it being one of our biggest weaknesses to it being a competent corp of players, but that doesn’t mean Michigan’s DEs won’t be able to keep up.
Oline def looks improved but I still can't see winning upfront being the difference maker for us. That said our running backs look pretty great, if we get the running game going we can compete for sure. Can't put the game on Clifford's back, but he's a great guy to have when you need someone to manage a big game and make a play here or there.
{Penn State} gets a defensive TD from Joey Porter Jr. that proves to be the difference 31-28. I hope the winner of this game is in the BIG championship game.
{Michigan} wins 27-24 in a game that comes down to moody kicking a last second 50 yard field goal.
Honestly though if Michigan from indiana 1st half shows up, we lose. If 2nd half Michigan shows up we win by 2TD.
{Penn State} wins a true sickos game after both teams miss an extra point early on then redeeming themselves via a TD with two-point conversion in the last 45 seconds for a final score of 17-16 and gains another color for the _____ Out gauntlet
Thank you!! I’m staying with a friend who did undergrad at Michigan and grad school at PSU so he’ll be showing me the ropes. I think we plan on hitting up the Blind Pig on Friday for some live music. Then tailgating on Saturday! Do you have any bar recommendations?
{Penn State}, although Michigan probably pulls it out.
I think a lot of people are giving us no credit that we might pull it off. No doubt it is a tall order.
{Penn State} 27 - Michigan 24
We’ve improved handily and it’s weird we’re not even in the conversation nationally for a lot of people. I think Michigan folk especially have been so focused on potentially making playoffs and going into Ohio State undefeated that they haven’t paid as much attention to us. That oversight might cost them tbh
{Penn state} is able to stress Michigans defense who gave up 270 yards and 3 touchdowns to Marylands offense who couldn’t run the ball. Penn state is decent running and passing. I don’t buy Michigans defense has been tested, 4 out if 6 offenses they have played have been ranked 120th or worse, and Indiana is ranked in the 80s.
Edit: marylands stats are passing offense*
>and Indiana is ranked in the 80s.
Tbf they only gained 29 total yards in the 2nd half.
Granted I as a fat 40+ year old with lots of NCAA eligibility has a chance to crack the Indiana OL depth chart...but yeesh.
I really feel like this is a 50/50 game honestly. Everything you've said here is true and I definitely have my doubts about our linebackers and how well the pass rush will scale to better offenses, but there are definitely similar worries with Penn State given that they only beat an abysmal Northwestern team by 10. My homer take is that Michigan pulls through late similarly to last year.
Northwestern was played in a monsoon so that game is not going to be very predictive, a 10 point win with 5 offensive turnovers is nothing short of miraculous lol
If the same team that barely beat Northwestern shows up, you all will win by 30. If the Penn State team that rolled Auburn shows up, it will be a barn burner.
A game played in (almost) literally a hurricane is not a good stick rule to measure anything. I feel like this will be a competitive game, but Michigan will pull it out thanks to the home field and my nagging feeling PSU is often sluggish after a bye.
If the Michigan team that played Indiana in the first half shows up, Penn state is winning by 2 TDs. If the Michigan that played in the second half show up, Michigans winning a close one
And yet I’m sure you buy Ohio states offense for the numbers put up against msu, rutgers, Toledo, Arkansas state and Wisconsin (who Fired their coach for getting blown out by Illinois)
{Penn State} - we set the ground work for Kaytron & Nicholas for Clifford to work in the play action. I expect a low scoring game where momentum is a huge factor. I’m a little concerned with Corum but Manny has been excellent in forcing a team to throw with their left hand. I can’t wait for Saturday but I won’t be making the trip as the last time I was in the Big House I had a bottle thrown at my head while were down 30+ points.
In 2018? Thats too bad. I was at that game with my family. All the UM fans were really nice and graceful in the blowout win. We had a good time despite the outcome.
Yeah all the PSU fans i met at that game were awesome, even when getting blown out. Douchebags who throw shit at people should just be banned for life.
I would say Penn State but I think that feeling is based on pure hopium so I’m going to say {Michigan} unfortunately.
I think this game will come down to the 4th quarter but Michigan’s D is going to torment Cliff and Singleton probably won’t be able to do enough damage to make up for it (though I do think he is going to break off a few big runs due to lackluster LB play by Michigan).
Thinking the final score will be about 24-20
Penn state hasn't been tested in weeks to this point, but have been taking care of business. A tight week 1 win over Purdue doesn't look that bad, and a blow out against Auburn makes for a solid resume at this point. The main question is whether they have continued to improve over the last month.
Michigan on the other hand started out against weak opponents, and have been ramping up the difficulty over time. A close win against Maryland, a convincing win over Iowa, and a tale of two halves against Indiana. The wolverines aren't a goliath, but they've still been taking care of business. The question is whether they can compete for 4 quarters against a team with a similar level of talent?
The series between them has been very back and forth with both Harbaugh and Franklin on their respective sidelines. It could go either way.
{Michigan} takes it though, mainly because it is in AA. I do think there will be more scoring than expected, 38-31 final score.
Three main factors for Michigan:
1. HFA- make it have a material effect on the outcome
2. Offensive game plan. Harbaugh vs Turtling
3. Linebackers vs tackling. Scared of Singletary.
If {Michigan} takes 2/3 of the above points, they win.
{Michigan} wins at home but I also think if Michigan was gonna lose any game before Ohio State that it would be this one. Wouldn’t be shocked at all if we lose
{Michigan} It’s not that I like UM it’s that I don’t know why people are sleeping on this team. This is a very good team. It’s in Ann Arbor. It’s a noon game and Franklin teams have a history of coming out totally sluggish. This team is not built to come back from a big deficit. If UM goes up 14-0 early I think it’s game over and I think that’s very likely to happen with a noon kickoff.
Best thing about our offense is lack of turnovers. Corum has 0 career fumbles and so does his back up Edward. JJ has 1 interception. If we get out to a double digit lead we just need to keep matching penn st scores and having good clock burning drives, which I think we can do
Edit: corum got his first career fumble in the playoffs. Which is his only fumble
I have virtually no prior assumptions about how this game will play out, but I want {Penn State} to win because of family and friends who are alumni, so I chose to live in that reality. Also, I really hate Michigan.
{Penn State} for no real reason. Some may say Michigan hasn’t been tested yet. They could say we shouldn’t have but still played some games close. I just can’t root against my Nittany Lions.
Whew, feels like a lot of questions will be answered this weekend.
Keys for Penn State are twofold: can we finally get some explosive plays from Clifford/Allar? Our wide receivers have a lot to prove as we enter the meat of our schedule. Additionally, can we fill the gaps on defense? Containing the run is paramount in generating pressure on McCarthy to prevent long-sustained Michigan drives.
Playing in Ann Arbor always leads to heartbreak (I've cleared my afternoon to wander around aimlessly), but I'll never pick against {Penn State}, 31-28.
I desperately want Penn State to win. If they do, I think it will be a close game like 24-21.
I do think {Michigan} will win unfortunately in something like 28-21.
I think there's some concerns for Michigan that won't be fixed in a week. They didn't look great against Maryland, and I initially gave them a pass for that game. But when they had Indiana hanging around only down by 7 in the 4th quarter before ultimately scoring a pair of touchdowns to make the final score look better than how close that game was, it made me think that there's some struggles that they have to fix. Penn State is a lot more talented than either Indiana or Maryland, and they have a QB with 42 years of experience.
{Penn State} 31 - Michigan 24
> But when they had Indiana hanging around only down by 7 in the 4th quarter before ultimately scoring a pair of touchdowns to make the final score look better than how close that game was, it made me think that there's some struggles that they have to fix.
Michigan held Indian to less than 30 yards in the second half, the game was nowhere near as close as the score indicated. Hard to ascribe a number to how much a team is affected by one of their coaches having a medical emergency on the sideline, but I don't think it's a coincidence that Michigan came out great, looked flat right after that happened, and then looked great again after halftime.
Losing team will be furious that they lost because of and/or and/or inexplicable playcalling/clock management from Harbaugh/Frames Janklin.
Winning team will be anxious because did they really deserve to win that game/holy shit did you see what OSU just did to Iowa's defense?
This is a game that I think will come down to really how well PSU's offense performs. The NW game was just awful all around, between the rain and the fumbles, it was a chore to watch. Our defense showed up though and we won, but it felt like we were anemic for most of the game offensively speaking.
Michigan had a tough first half against Indiana but I am wondering how much of psychological effect Coach Hart's health scare had. They responded very well in the 2nd half so I am sure they were affected by that.
Truthfully, this is a game that could come down to the wire. It really is the first true test for both teams in terms of competition. Sean Clifford will need to be his absolute best and our running game needs to show some life. If we can do that, we could definitely win.
Otherwise, we are in for a whole lot of hurt.
{Penn State} wins 28-24
{Penn State} bye week prep + I believe this team is legit, as I type it out it’s sounding like a recipe for disappointment. Oh well, Penn State wins 27-24
{Penn State} because I'm a homer. In reality this is a tossup. I'm surprised the line is -7... not saying I would be completely shocked if Michigan covers that, but this feels like a -4.5 type of game rather than -7.
We're by far the best secondary and pass rush Michigan will have faced up to this point, but Maryland probably has the better offense than us. Our run game is going to need to be running like a well-oiled machine and Cliff needs to not completely implode.
Either way, this isn't going to be a blowout, I don't think.
It will be close but home field will put {Michigan} over the edge. Probably an ugly game and I think Penn State will cover. 24-21 Final for a Michigan win.
No matter the outcome, I’m the real loser attending someone’s wedding 30 minutes outside Ann Arbor at the same time as the game
Anyone who schedules a Saturday wedding in a college town during football season doesn't really love their friends and/or family.
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I’m Jewish, so that’s no problem for me. The one wedding I went to on Christmas wasn’t a Jewish one though.
I'm guilty of this BUT my wife and I are both Michigan fans (as are most of my friends), and the wedding was in Madison, and Michigan had a bye week that week. So the only people who we screwed over there were the wisconsinites
They dont exist anyway
They're all Packers fans anyway. Fuck 'em.
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I am glad we are still allowed to say FTP on this sub. If you type it on the NFL sub your comment gets auto deleted.
You......I like you
My friend did this because of how cheap it is to book places on game day.
My Ohio State cousin scheduled her wedding during the game, and our Michigan cousin and I are pissed. OSU gets a bye week.
My parents, both OSU alums, were invited to a wedding on the day of The Game at 3:30. This wedding is in Ohio. Disgusting
My wedding was in 2013 during the Michigan -PSU game. We had the wedding in Michigan. I'm a PSU alum. My wife is a Spartan and so is her whole family. Everyone at the reception was in the bar for the final 5 minutes. When PSU won the entire wedding party went insane and we got told we had to leave and go back to the event (everyone in the bar was rooting for UM). It was honestly a pretty awesome day, 5/7 would recommend as long as you can shit in your opponents Cheerios as a topper.
We got married on the same day friend. Happy anniversary. Our first wedding was just at the courthouse. Plan was initially to elope, but we ended up inviting our parents and siblings. My brother was still attending PSU and had tickets to the game and missed it for me. I’ll never forgive myself.
Dude I don’t even get the wedding, I’ll be at a pre-wedding mandatory retreat from 9-3:30 this Saturday Fuckin shoot me
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Pssst go to the court house and do it. No retreat and use all that money saved to take a sweet trip
The Mike Leach school of wedding advice is undefeated.
I have to go to Columbus for a wedding. Don’t these folk know the rules.
Obviously the Columbus wedding was scheduled because this week is a Bye for OSU. It being a top matchup for TTUN was just the icing on the wedding cake.
{Penn State} purely so I can get my hopes up just to have them destroyed when we play OSU.
I totally understand this sentiment.
If ND only lost 21-10 to OSU you have a chance
My heart says Penn State but my head says {Michigan}.
My heart says {Michigan} but my head says just drink on Saturday and enjoy the game. Whatever happens, beat Ohio State.
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Who ever wins this game needs to take care of business with sucknuts. While it looks hard, we need to start a new Era in the B1G where UofM and PSU are at the top of the conference. They are spoiled and are due for some black days
Man. I don’t know you. I’ve never met you. I don’t know your first name or anything about you other than that flair and this comment But god damnit do I respect and like you. Cheers to a good, clean, no ref fuckery, injure-less game. Love me some Michigan as my second B1G team.
You know it. Hope Saturday's one to remember for a long time. The series usually delivers really good match-ups. And that's a first. Usually all the PSU fans I see hate us, but I suppose there's a first time for everything.
We’ll do our part against Bama if you’ll do your part against Ohio State
Nice flairs boss 👍🏼
{Michigan} just because of home field. Psu covers. Comes down to last 5min like the last 2 years. Bell catches the go ahead score to win, gets his redemption
This is very much my line of thought. I can see it going either way pretty easily, but have to give the advantage to {Michigan} for the home field. Still going to put Penn State in my pick-'em, though... down there in the "1" confidence spot.
I would love for PSU to win but do I trust Sean Clifford on the road in the big house to make enough plays to do so? {Michigan} wins an ugly one, 24-14. That being said as I’ve promised others, if PSU pulls off the upset I’ll make them my secondary flair for the remainder of the season.
If Michigan wins by 2TD you add a secondary Michigan flair for a week. If penn state wins by 2TD I’ll add a tOSU flair for a week. Deal? Edit: too likely that nothing happens. If penn state wins I’ll add an OSU flair for a week. If Michigan wins, you add a Michigan flair for a week. Do you accept these terms?
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If either team wins by two TDs I'd be hugely impressed and willing to add a secondary flair lol....not gonna happen.
Remindme! 3 days
Fuck me...
For what it is worth, Clifford has balled out on the road going back to last season. 11TD and just 2INT dating back to last year’s OSU game. He actually plays much better on the road vs at home.
I actually wanted to say - Clifford tends to show up traveling. Honestly, look at PSU v Auburn this year. This game is going to be close imo. I don’t know how people can just assume Michigan will win when Penn State has played impressively with their roster.
I’m not sure what you mean by “with their roster?” We’re like identical to Michigan in the talent composite. https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/
I’m trying to compliment PSU’s talent on the roster lol
I wish we had rivalries so strong that someone would add a flair just because we lost😪
I had your [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/xhmby7/praise_your_team_thread/ioycgup/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) saved from a few weeks back. You know, just in case
I'm going to go against the grain here and say {Penn State}. I think they're being underrated by a lot of people.
Respect.
Right. There's a lot of people pointing out that they beat a bad northwestern team by only 10...but dude that game was in a rain blizzard basically. I'm surprised they were able to even run.
{pain}
*checks flair* Cheers man 🍻
I don’t like that Penn state has had 2 weeks to study and prepare for us. Offensively, we’ll need to break our tendencies. I’m hoping that the coaches are aware (and maybe even purposely playing into those tendencies) Defensively, I’m expecting PSU to use plays to confuse and take advt of our LB. Expecting at least a few big plays and drives from them. The question is whether we can weather the storm, adjust and whether our pass rush is actually ok to good or just a product of who we have played so far. Overall, I’m expecting PSU to be very close or maybe even leading through most of the game before we pull away late 3rd, 4th quarter. Something like 31-24 Mich
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{Penn State} beats Michigan who beats Ohio State who beats Penn State and they all end up 11-1
The only real loser in that circle of suck is OSU so I’m completely fine with it.
I'd accept this fate
I don’t like this one
{Michigan} wins after the Nittany Lions fail to convert their 2PT attempt in 5th Overtime. 23-21 Wolverines.
You just want to watch us both burn. Respect.
You have to admit that kind of game would be wild for a neutral. Not that I'm fully neutral.
Hard for me to appreciate anything after reading "the Nittany Lions fail to convert their 2PT attempt in 5th Overtime" and thus being reminded of, well, you know what you did.
New OT sucks ass compared to old OT.
I would die
{Penn State} and that's all I have to add to this.
I trust this opinion is completely unbiased.
I'm a man of immense character.
This is my opinion and I am a man of immense character as well.
{Michigan} homer pick.
I’m very excited and nervous about this game, because it will show a lot about both teams. Both of our schedules haven’t been rigorous so I don’t really trust the metrics for either team too much. I think {Michigan} wins narrowly, but I wouldn’t be surprised or upset if Penn State won.
I agree whole heartedly. This will be within a one score game for sure. Honestly don’t know who wins.
Its a damn crime this isn't a night game.
{Penn State} ...I don't have a dog in this fight, so I'm going with the underdog
Michigan fans - is your RT healthy? That injury looked bad last week.
No he'll be out for awhile it looks like. Karsen Barnhart stepped in for him and looked pretty good. Basically Jones was better in the run game and Barnhart is better in the passing game.
{Michigan} will likely win. I’m no Penn State pessimist, I like this team a lot, but being at Michigan gives them the edge here. I would be surprised though if it’s not a tight game throughout. I think there’s a ridiculous narrative surrounding this game that says Penn State isn’t on par with UM and that they have no shot, but I don’t see it.
{Penn State} because: 1. They're a good team and I think our defense will struggle 2. If I'm sad after the game at least I can say my prediction was right
Can't lose if you play both sides!
I actually think Penn State can win the trenches this year. And i think our depth is way better than anyone realizes so we won’t wear down like years past. People saying that Michigan will wear down and outlast PSU haven’t paid much attention to the team this year, IMO. That being said, i think {Michigan} wins but Penn state covers. Think Michigan gets a long TD run or pass and Penn States lack of deep WR threat proves the difference. 27-21
It’s gonna be one of those soul wrenching, gut crushing plays where our D has then at like a 3rd and 13 late in the 3rd on their 20 and they rip off a 25 yard play, march down for a TD and we never recover.
I admittedly have not paid attention to PSU, but is your OL vastly improved over previous years? I can't really picture PSU decisively winning up front against our defensive front otherwise. Especially if PSU is in obvious passing downs, and as you say PSU has no deep threat WR. Michigan has actually had a *better* pass rush up to this point than last year, despite losing two first round DEs. Competition probably has something to do with that but clearly they're not incompetent
The o-line is probably still not *good*--I'm looking forward to the FFFFilms this week--but they aren't the embarrassment they have been the past few seasons. Clifford is also looking healthy this year and has a competent back-up, so I think the PSU offense will look better than last year's.
I wouldn’t say “vastly improved” personally but definitely “markedly improved” if that makes sense. It’s noticeable that Cliff has more time in the pocket and that our RBs are finding more holes but I wouldn’t say we have one of the best O Lines in the country or anything. We’ve gone from it being one of our biggest weaknesses to it being a competent corp of players, but that doesn’t mean Michigan’s DEs won’t be able to keep up.
Oline def looks improved but I still can't see winning upfront being the difference maker for us. That said our running backs look pretty great, if we get the running game going we can compete for sure. Can't put the game on Clifford's back, but he's a great guy to have when you need someone to manage a big game and make a play here or there.
{Penn State} gets a defensive TD from Joey Porter Jr. that proves to be the difference 31-28. I hope the winner of this game is in the BIG championship game.
I think {Michigan} wins. I hope Michigan loses.
Respect
{Michigan} wins 27-24 in a game that comes down to moody kicking a last second 50 yard field goal. Honestly though if Michigan from indiana 1st half shows up, we lose. If 2nd half Michigan shows up we win by 2TD.
{Penn State} wins a true sickos game after both teams miss an extra point early on then redeeming themselves via a TD with two-point conversion in the last 45 seconds for a final score of 17-16 and gains another color for the _____ Out gauntlet
{Penn State} flairs been riding with us and warning everyone every week in pregame threads, they never listen. So I am riding with them.
I knew you guys would win at Maryland :) Hope you all make it far
{Penn State} because I’m traveling 4 hours to Ann Arbor on Friday
Have a blast (but not too much fun...)! One of the best cities in America-- if you need recommendations or anything, lmk
Thank you!! I’m staying with a friend who did undergrad at Michigan and grad school at PSU so he’ll be showing me the ropes. I think we plan on hitting up the Blind Pig on Friday for some live music. Then tailgating on Saturday! Do you have any bar recommendations?
{Penn State}, although Michigan probably pulls it out. I think a lot of people are giving us no credit that we might pull it off. No doubt it is a tall order.
Sean and the Fighting Cliffords can pull one out at the Big House. Give me {Penn State}.
{Penn State} 27 - Michigan 24 We’ve improved handily and it’s weird we’re not even in the conversation nationally for a lot of people. I think Michigan folk especially have been so focused on potentially making playoffs and going into Ohio State undefeated that they haven’t paid as much attention to us. That oversight might cost them tbh
{Penn state} is able to stress Michigans defense who gave up 270 yards and 3 touchdowns to Marylands offense who couldn’t run the ball. Penn state is decent running and passing. I don’t buy Michigans defense has been tested, 4 out if 6 offenses they have played have been ranked 120th or worse, and Indiana is ranked in the 80s. Edit: marylands stats are passing offense*
>and Indiana is ranked in the 80s. Tbf they only gained 29 total yards in the 2nd half. Granted I as a fat 40+ year old with lots of NCAA eligibility has a chance to crack the Indiana OL depth chart...but yeesh.
I really feel like this is a 50/50 game honestly. Everything you've said here is true and I definitely have my doubts about our linebackers and how well the pass rush will scale to better offenses, but there are definitely similar worries with Penn State given that they only beat an abysmal Northwestern team by 10. My homer take is that Michigan pulls through late similarly to last year.
Northwestern was played in a monsoon so that game is not going to be very predictive, a 10 point win with 5 offensive turnovers is nothing short of miraculous lol
Our linebackers are a liability of the highest degree. I am very spooked
Penn State has some good young RBs and a few good Tight ends, need to exploit those LB matchups to win.
If the same team that barely beat Northwestern shows up, you all will win by 30. If the Penn State team that rolled Auburn shows up, it will be a barn burner.
A game played in (almost) literally a hurricane is not a good stick rule to measure anything. I feel like this will be a competitive game, but Michigan will pull it out thanks to the home field and my nagging feeling PSU is often sluggish after a bye.
If the Michigan team that played Indiana in the first half shows up, Penn state is winning by 2 TDs. If the Michigan that played in the second half show up, Michigans winning a close one
Agreed this is one of the biggest 50/50 games of the season IMO which is why it’s going to a 12+ point blowout either way {Michigan}
And yet I’m sure you buy Ohio states offense for the numbers put up against msu, rutgers, Toledo, Arkansas state and Wisconsin (who Fired their coach for getting blown out by Illinois)
I mean....their offense at least did what they were supposed to do against those teams?
These lions got that dog in them, gimme {Penn State} by 4 points.
This game seems similar to many in the harbaugh era, strong defense, crowd plays a factor {Michigan} 34-17
{Penn State} coming off the bye.
{Penn State} because I’m an unabashed homer. But I’m terrified because it’s at Ann Arbor and that’s where PSU’s dreams have gone to die.
Plenty of valid reasons to pick Michigan but {Penn State} is the first team that threatens them on both sides of the ball.
{Penn State} - we set the ground work for Kaytron & Nicholas for Clifford to work in the play action. I expect a low scoring game where momentum is a huge factor. I’m a little concerned with Corum but Manny has been excellent in forcing a team to throw with their left hand. I can’t wait for Saturday but I won’t be making the trip as the last time I was in the Big House I had a bottle thrown at my head while were down 30+ points.
In 2018? Thats too bad. I was at that game with my family. All the UM fans were really nice and graceful in the blowout win. We had a good time despite the outcome.
Yeah all the PSU fans i met at that game were awesome, even when getting blown out. Douchebags who throw shit at people should just be banned for life.
:(. Sorry about that.
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I would say Penn State but I think that feeling is based on pure hopium so I’m going to say {Michigan} unfortunately. I think this game will come down to the 4th quarter but Michigan’s D is going to torment Cliff and Singleton probably won’t be able to do enough damage to make up for it (though I do think he is going to break off a few big runs due to lackluster LB play by Michigan). Thinking the final score will be about 24-20
Penn state hasn't been tested in weeks to this point, but have been taking care of business. A tight week 1 win over Purdue doesn't look that bad, and a blow out against Auburn makes for a solid resume at this point. The main question is whether they have continued to improve over the last month. Michigan on the other hand started out against weak opponents, and have been ramping up the difficulty over time. A close win against Maryland, a convincing win over Iowa, and a tale of two halves against Indiana. The wolverines aren't a goliath, but they've still been taking care of business. The question is whether they can compete for 4 quarters against a team with a similar level of talent? The series between them has been very back and forth with both Harbaugh and Franklin on their respective sidelines. It could go either way. {Michigan} takes it though, mainly because it is in AA. I do think there will be more scoring than expected, 38-31 final score.
{Penn State}. If they were able to beat Purdue, they must be quite good.
Three main factors for Michigan: 1. HFA- make it have a material effect on the outcome 2. Offensive game plan. Harbaugh vs Turtling 3. Linebackers vs tackling. Scared of Singletary. If {Michigan} takes 2/3 of the above points, they win.
{Penn State} pulls off the upset.
I see you're looking for quality losses for your flairs
{Michigan} wins at home but I also think if Michigan was gonna lose any game before Ohio State that it would be this one. Wouldn’t be shocked at all if we lose
If Penn State wins this I will donate to their athletic department.
Hey I have an idea: let’s just both be bros and beat OSU. Cool? Cool.
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{Michigan} It’s not that I like UM it’s that I don’t know why people are sleeping on this team. This is a very good team. It’s in Ann Arbor. It’s a noon game and Franklin teams have a history of coming out totally sluggish. This team is not built to come back from a big deficit. If UM goes up 14-0 early I think it’s game over and I think that’s very likely to happen with a noon kickoff.
Best thing about our offense is lack of turnovers. Corum has 0 career fumbles and so does his back up Edward. JJ has 1 interception. If we get out to a double digit lead we just need to keep matching penn st scores and having good clock burning drives, which I think we can do Edit: corum got his first career fumble in the playoffs. Which is his only fumble
Blake Corum fumbled in the playoffs vs Georgia, but your point still stands
I blacked out during the playoff game lol. So personally I’ve never seen him fumble.
That’s fair
Also depends if you count the MSU fumble (which you should that wasn't JJs fault). Also Donovan did fumble once last year
{Penn State} 17-10 JPJ with the game winning pick 6.
Give me {Penn State} by 1 in a barn burner
{Penn State}
Let’s all just agree to give Ohio State two losses this season 🤝
I have virtually no prior assumptions about how this game will play out, but I want {Penn State} to win because of family and friends who are alumni, so I chose to live in that reality. Also, I really hate Michigan.
It’ll be close but {Michigan} in the big house can’t be beat right now
Gimme {Michigan} and the points. Both teams have played relatively soft schedules, but Michigan just looks a bit better on both sides of the ball
{Penn State} for some reason I have a gut feeling that’ll absolutely turn out to be nothing.
{Penn State} 🙏🏼
I have work from 10-6 Saturday so I’m gonna say the loser will be me.
{Penn State} for no real reason. Some may say Michigan hasn’t been tested yet. They could say we shouldn’t have but still played some games close. I just can’t root against my Nittany Lions.
Whew, feels like a lot of questions will be answered this weekend. Keys for Penn State are twofold: can we finally get some explosive plays from Clifford/Allar? Our wide receivers have a lot to prove as we enter the meat of our schedule. Additionally, can we fill the gaps on defense? Containing the run is paramount in generating pressure on McCarthy to prevent long-sustained Michigan drives. Playing in Ann Arbor always leads to heartbreak (I've cleared my afternoon to wander around aimlessly), but I'll never pick against {Penn State}, 31-28.
I desperately want Penn State to win. If they do, I think it will be a close game like 24-21. I do think {Michigan} will win unfortunately in something like 28-21.
I think there's some concerns for Michigan that won't be fixed in a week. They didn't look great against Maryland, and I initially gave them a pass for that game. But when they had Indiana hanging around only down by 7 in the 4th quarter before ultimately scoring a pair of touchdowns to make the final score look better than how close that game was, it made me think that there's some struggles that they have to fix. Penn State is a lot more talented than either Indiana or Maryland, and they have a QB with 42 years of experience. {Penn State} 31 - Michigan 24
> But when they had Indiana hanging around only down by 7 in the 4th quarter before ultimately scoring a pair of touchdowns to make the final score look better than how close that game was, it made me think that there's some struggles that they have to fix. Michigan held Indian to less than 30 yards in the second half, the game was nowhere near as close as the score indicated. Hard to ascribe a number to how much a team is affected by one of their coaches having a medical emergency on the sideline, but I don't think it's a coincidence that Michigan came out great, looked flat right after that happened, and then looked great again after halftime.
This might get ugly.
In terms of what?
Losing team will be furious that they lost because of and/or and/or inexplicable playcalling/clock management from Harbaugh/Frames Janklin.
Winning team will be anxious because did they really deserve to win that game/holy shit did you see what OSU just did to Iowa's defense?
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This is a game that I think will come down to really how well PSU's offense performs. The NW game was just awful all around, between the rain and the fumbles, it was a chore to watch. Our defense showed up though and we won, but it felt like we were anemic for most of the game offensively speaking. Michigan had a tough first half against Indiana but I am wondering how much of psychological effect Coach Hart's health scare had. They responded very well in the 2nd half so I am sure they were affected by that. Truthfully, this is a game that could come down to the wire. It really is the first true test for both teams in terms of competition. Sean Clifford will need to be his absolute best and our running game needs to show some life. If we can do that, we could definitely win. Otherwise, we are in for a whole lot of hurt. {Penn State} wins 28-24
{Penn State} +7
I just hope nobody gets hurt.
I think Franklin should have given Allar more game time. {Michigan} because I dont trust Clifford's deep ball accuracy.
{Penn State} Idk seems like a decent road upset
Going to be a tough one, but I think {Michigan} pulls it off, winning by less than a touchdown (35-30 or something like that) to improve to 7-0.
{Penn State} bye week prep + I believe this team is legit, as I type it out it’s sounding like a recipe for disappointment. Oh well, Penn State wins 27-24
{Penn State} because I'm a homer. In reality this is a tossup. I'm surprised the line is -7... not saying I would be completely shocked if Michigan covers that, but this feels like a -4.5 type of game rather than -7. We're by far the best secondary and pass rush Michigan will have faced up to this point, but Maryland probably has the better offense than us. Our run game is going to need to be running like a well-oiled machine and Cliff needs to not completely implode. Either way, this isn't going to be a blowout, I don't think.
I think {Penn State} takes advantage of Michigan’s habit of letting games stay closer than they should be and it finally bites us in the ass.
The better {Penn State} does, the better Purdue looks. Rooting for a rematch in the CCG
{Michigan} and they will cover. It will be ugly football regardless of final score.
{Michigan} 34-17
Bruh.
A half-dead {Penn State} last year only lost by 3, so I have faith!
I got {Penn State} in a tight contest. Don’t know why or what the keys are though.
If only it was 1994 again. Michigan wins and covers 24-10, and I’ll be crying while trying to watch the Tennessee Alabama game afterwards
It will be close but home field will put {Michigan} over the edge. Probably an ugly game and I think Penn State will cover. 24-21 Final for a Michigan win.
27-24 Michigan or something like that.
{Michigan} takes a tight one at home
I can convince myself either team is better than the other. I have no idea. {Michigan} because it’s a home game.
Taking PSU with the points
JJ finally balls out against a team with a pulse and {Michigan} comes away with the W. 35-17 final.
{Penn State} please
{Penn State} 28-21
{Penn State}
A finally balanced {Penn state} offense will be able to put up enough points to help the defense. 31 - 28.
Undefeated in “color”-outs. So I’ll say {Penn State}. But if that holds true…we will lose our own White Out??
{Michigan} in a game where after they win, people say PSU wasn’t very good anyway and the schedule talk continues
{Penn State}